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fORMULA 409 CLEANER AS A INSECTICIDE ON ROSES?

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Freckles

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May 27, 2009, 1:47:39 PM5/27/09
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Just read the safety warning on a bottle of 409. It has the identical safety
warning as the organic insect killing soap sprays I have.

Has anyone ever tried Formula 409 on their roses or flowers to see if it
will kill the insects and not hurt the plants?

Freckles


JoeSpareBedroom

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May 27, 2009, 3:06:03 PM5/27/09
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"Freckles" <frec...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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Mind if I ask how old you are? I'll explain after you tell me your age.


Freckles

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May 27, 2009, 3:51:53 PM5/27/09
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <news...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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I'm over 21 and under 100. What has my age got to do with the answer to my
question?


JoeSpareBedroom

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May 27, 2009, 4:21:06 PM5/27/09
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Because I can't understand how you came to the bizarre conclusion that
identical safety warnings meant two entirely different products could be
used in the same way.


Freckles

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May 27, 2009, 4:39:22 PM5/27/09
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <news...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Because IT CAN!

Look Formula 409 up on Google and learn something.

Freckles

JoeSpareBedroom

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May 27, 2009, 5:34:19 PM5/27/09
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"Freckles" <frec...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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Then why did you ask?


Mycosimian

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May 27, 2009, 6:00:23 PM5/27/09
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On May 27, 3:39 pm, "Freckles" <freck...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
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> >>>news:MvudnX2AUPtZ4YDX...@giganews.com...
> >>>> Just read the safety warning on a bottle of 409. It has the identical
> >>>> safety warning as the organic insect killing soap sprays I have.
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> >>>> Has anyone ever tried Formula 409 on their roses or flowers to see if
> >>>> it will kill the insects and not hurt the plants?
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> >>>> Freckles
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> >>> Mind if I ask how old you are? I'll explain after you tell me your age.
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> >> I'm over 21 and under 100. What has my age got to do with the answer to
> >> my question?
>
> > Because I can't understand how you came to the bizarre conclusion that
> > identical safety warnings meant two entirely different products could be
> > used in the same way.
>
> Because IT CAN!
>
> Look Formula 409 up on Google and learn something.
>
> Freckles

What words are you searching on google? I didn't find anything saying
to use it in the garden. It will definitely kill some bugs.

http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/safety/MSDS/FORMULA%20409%20CLEANER.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butoxyethanol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_oxide

Freckles

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May 27, 2009, 6:10:46 PM5/27/09
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <news...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Can't you read? Try reading my post! If it's beyond your grade level ask
your mom or dad for help.


Freckles

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May 27, 2009, 6:51:16 PM5/27/09
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"Mycosimian" <mycos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/safety/MSDS/FORMULA%20409%20CLEANER.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butoxyethanol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_oxide

I think I used "Formula 409+insecticide"

One person said their roses were being eaten up by pest until he tried using
Formula 409 spray on them. He said it worked miracles and his roses are now
looking great.

With only one opinion, I asked my question about Formula 409 on this
Newsgroup. I was hoping for some useful information and all I've received so
far, besides your question, is some juvenile delinquent playing like an
ignorant whatever.

Freckles


Frank

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May 28, 2009, 7:24:26 AM5/28/09
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You ask a stupid question then flame the respondents. What did you expect?

hr(bob) hofmann@att.net

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May 28, 2009, 10:58:00 AM5/28/09
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On May 28, 6:24 am, Frank <frankperiodlogu...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Frank - It was a legitimate question, your reply was asinine!!

JoeSpareBedroom

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May 28, 2009, 11:36:45 AM5/28/09
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===========


If 10 products all say "For external use only" on their labels, are these
products all the same?


Freckles

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May 28, 2009, 11:50:36 AM5/28/09
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"Frank" <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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The only question asked was:

Freckles

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May 28, 2009, 11:54:24 AM5/28/09
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <news...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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The question was about only one product which is know to kill insects as
well as being a good cleaning agent.

In case you have forgotten, that question was:

Has anyone ever tried Formula 409 on their roses or flowers to see if it
will kill the insects and not hurt the plants?

And it has yet to be answered.

Freckles


JoeSpareBedroom

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May 28, 2009, 12:10:55 PM5/28/09
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"Freckles" <frec...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. We all saw the question. If you'd left out your REASON for asking
the question, you wouldn't have started this mess. Your reason was silly.

Now, I'm off to scrub my kitchen sink with Lubriderm skin cream. It says
"For external use only" on the label, and so does my container of Comet
powder, so the two products must be interchangeable.


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Patrick

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May 29, 2009, 9:59:57 AM5/29/09
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Here is an answer from a lurker. I have tried 409 mixed with equal parts
of water and rubbing alcohol sprayed on orchids and it did not hurt the
plants. It did kill some bugs.

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Patrick

Go USF Bulls!

brooklyn1

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May 29, 2009, 11:48:12 AM5/29/09
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"Patrick" wrote

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> Here is an answer from a lurker. I have tried 409 mixed with equal parts
> of water and rubbing alcohol sprayed on orchids and it did not hurt the
> plants. It did kill some bugs.
>
>

Are you kidding or what... the alcohol alone, even diluted, would have
killed some bugs. Naturally I don't believe you sprayed alcohol on your
orchids, not if you know anything about plants, rubbing alcohol would
definitely have hurt your orchids, rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) is the
solvent for chlorophyll.

Frank

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May 29, 2009, 1:30:10 PM5/29/09
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It is an incredibly stupid question. I have degrees in chemistry and
have written more than a few MSDS's and labels. Warnings for totally
different chemicals can be identical. This was the basis of his
question which I note he has dropped further in the thread. Who cares
if 409 works on plants? What about Windex or Murphy's Oil Soap? ;)

Billy

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May 29, 2009, 7:27:39 PM5/29/09
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In article
<870a2cbd-628f-4489...@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Mycosimian <mycos...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just have to hit them with it really hard ;O)
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is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html

Billy

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May 29, 2009, 7:31:47 PM5/29/09
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In article <HJGdnfWmXZ7yJ4DX...@giganews.com>,
"Freckles" <frec...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

Woo Hoo. Feckless is back ;O)

JoeSpareBedroom

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May 30, 2009, 9:28:45 AM5/30/09
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"Billy" <wildbilly@without_a.net> wrote in message
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You have the whack the bugs using the Formula 409 bottle itself, not the
contents. :-)


pattyle...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2018, 6:09:30 PM6/13/18
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There are a lot of stupid people who don't mind their own business if you don't have anything helpful to say don't say anything at all it is not a stupid question to ask if 409 will kill bugs on your plants without hurting them I have two clients that use 409 to kill the slugs in their garden and it works better than any chemical spray you can get and one of my ladies sprays 409 on all of her outdoor plants and it kills the bugs and does not hurt the plants so for all of the idiots out there that think they know everything shut up and get a life and to the guy who or girl who wanted to know yes you can spray 409 on your outdoor plants and it will not hurt them and it was a great question

dieder...@gmail.com

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Dec 21, 2018, 2:28:07 PM12/21/18
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You are absolutely right! D-limonene is the main ingredient in Formula 409 if you look it up you will finde that it can be used as insecticide. And no, it will not hurt the plants, pets or humans.

Kendrick

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Apr 10, 2021, 10:31:06 AM4/10/21
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My rose bushes went from gorgeous to shriveled overnight. Just realized I accidentally sprayed them with 409 instead of NEEM oil. Do NOT use 409 on your rose bushes!

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ledaboyes

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Feb 24, 2022, 5:45:06 PM2/24/22
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I've used this product with Rubbing alcohol and water and it kills the adults, you have to use again when the adults emerge again....
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