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Robert B. Martin

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Feb 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/10/98
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I am looking for some advice for my first rose garden. I live in Akron
Ohio and am unsure of the correct planting time, and if the varieties
I have choose are well suited for the climate.

I have chosen the following from Edmunds:

Bride's Dream - T040
Double Delight - T105
Forgotten Dreams - T135
Helmut Schmidt - T160
Pascali - T265

The area I will be planting them gets plenty of sun, and currently is
covered with grass. I am planning on putting in a raised bed, with
some type of water fountain/pond/waterfall in the middle of where the
roses will go.

Thanks in advance!
Robert B. Martin

Baldo Villegas

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Feb 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/12/98
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PetRose wrote:
>
> rob_m...@rovisys.com (Robert B. Martin)

>
> "I am looking for some advice for my first rose garden. I live in Akron
> Ohio and am unsure of the correct planting time, and if the varieties
> I have choose are well suited for the climate."
>
> Wow - this is kind of spooky Twilight Zone stuff - the poster has exactly my
> name (actually my Fathers) and I was born in Akron and Dad lives in
> Akron....Can this possibly be a posting from a parallel universe where I stayed
> in Akron and only now have discovered roses? If so can I reply to myself? Just
> wondering...
***************************
Pet:
I was wondering about the same thing that's why I didn't touch this one.
I figured you would deal with it a lot better than anybody else.
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PetRose

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Feb 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/13/98
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thwoaway wose

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Feb 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/13/98
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In article <19980213041...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, pet...@aol.com
says...

I was totally blown away myself, I thot it was your dad. But I thot it was
Cleveland. But there are no Akron Browns. There are no Browns at all, hahaha.
There *is* a new Dallas coach tho.

m

>


Patrick Burke

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Feb 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/13/98
to PetRose

On 13 Feb 1998, PetRose wrote:

> rob_m...@rovisys.com (Robert B. Martin)
>
> "I am looking for some advice for my first rose garden. I live in Akron
> Ohio and am unsure of the correct planting time, and if the varieties
> I have choose are well suited for the climate."
>
> Wow - this is kind of spooky Twilight Zone stuff - the poster has exactly my
> name (actually my Fathers) and I was born in Akron and Dad lives in
> Akron....Can this possibly be a posting from a parallel universe where I stayed
> in Akron and only now have discovered roses? If so can I reply to myself? Just
> wondering...
>

Well, nobody ever said parallel universes were necessarily time-synched
with this one. Maybe it IS you, way back when. Did you ever ask anyone for
advice about roses in Akron? If somebody responded, maybe it was you, all
these years later, and the great cosmic point of it was so that you would
be able to encourage yourself then to become the you you are today.

On the other hand, maybe it's just some guy with a few legitimate
questions who by now is wondering what the hell kind of a group he got
himself into.

If that's the case, I would start by trying to identify what you like
most about roses: big, high-centered flowers? Lots o' fragrance?
Old-fashioned roses? the little, wild ones that grow along the side of
country roads? What colors do you like? Your satisfaction will probably be
much higher if you like the roses you choose to start with.

Then get a book or two. I like the Ortho book (you can get it at Home
Depot or Lowe's) and Roses for Dummies. Both are widely available, and
your library may have them. Look through them for what strikes your fancy
and what kind of care is involved.

Then start shopping. There are many catalogs on-line, which are a good
place to start. There's a catalog page off the ARS page (www.ars.org).
You're probably zone 5 or zone 6, planting time for us is April, + or -,
for bare root, May-June for potted roses. You can also plant potted roses
in the fall, but they aren't as widely available here at that time.

Ask around. Go to nurseries. Post questions here. Usually we aren't this
weird, though sometimes we're weirder.


Patrick Burke
Project Services Coordinator
Biological Sciences Division Information Services
The University of Chicago
p-b...@uchicago.edu

PetRose

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Feb 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/14/98
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xte...@aoc.nrao.edu (thwoaway wose) wrote:

"I was totally blown away myself, I thot it was your dad. But I thot it was
Cleveland. But there are no Akron Browns. There are no Browns at all,
hahaha."

Dad played basketball for the Akron Wingfoots. The Wingfoots have gone the way
of the Browns. But there is still the Tribe and Akron still does the soap box
derby which Mack could probably do well at....

Robert B. Martin

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Feb 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/16/98
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pet...@aol.com (PetRose) wrote:

Akron now has a pretty bad baseball team, the Aeros...plus the
Goodyear Blimps can still be seen overhead....

I be glad to admit some relation to the other Robert Martin, as long
as there is some inheritance money in it! But as far as I know I have
no direct relatives in Akron, I'm a transplant from another state.....

Robert B. Martin

PetRose

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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Donna wrote:

"Whaddya think guys? Maybe we should give this guy a nickname too?"

I've always lked "Bob" - its hard to misspell since it reads the same backwards
- just a thought....


Robert B. Martin

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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pet...@aol.com (PetRose) wrote:

I'd prefer my middle name - Bruno - to Bob, Bob sounds too old for a
young guy like me!
Robert B. Martin

lms

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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In article <34ec24e6....@news.earthlink.net>, rob_m...@rovisys.com
says...

Brurose

>


Robert B. Martin

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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xte...@aoc.nrao.edu (lms) wrote:

Brurose, I like that - goes with my rose hobby and my home brewing
hobby - good combo

Any other suggestions? - you guys/gals are really making me feel at
home in this group!

Robert B. Martin

Rosehopp

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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The "other" Robert B. Martin wrote:>
>I'd prefer my middle name - Bruno - to Bob, Bob sounds too old for a
>young guy like me!

This is going to get interesting . . .well, Bob/Petrose, what are you going to
say to this young whippersnapper???

Pat Walker

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Donna wrote:
>

> Either that or the poster IS your father and doesn't know you're here. ;) There
> is another Donna Holmes in Marin, but our paths never cross. My name from a
> previous marriage was Donna Myer and my mother-in-law had the same name. There
> was also another Donna Meyer (spelled differently) in Marin. She was a legal
> secretary and actually applied for one of my legal secretary/office mgr.
> positions when I was leaving. She might have gotten the job too, but my employer
> thought it was just a little too weird. Names are funny things.
>
> Donna Holmes
> Marin Co., CA
> (de...@gorilla.nbn.com, aka SunshineGirl)\

I was once trying to find out how an old boyfriend (16 years ago) found
my email address, and did an internet search on my name. After 40 "Pat
Walker"s, I hadn't even found one in California yet. There were
HUNDREDS of them (us). There's a lot on anonymity in numbers like
that. I've even met two other Pat Walkers. Common names can be nice,
and then a pain. Still don't know how the old bf found my email
address. The internet is weird like that. Cosmic connections indeed.


__________________________________________
Pat Walker
I am generally to be found in my garden, hopefully alone!.

email: p...@ipos.ucsb.edu
__________________________________________

PetRose

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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rose...@aol.com (Rosehopp) wrote re the reply of the "other" Robert B. Martin
(I'd prefer my middle name - Bruno - to Bob, Bob sounds too old for a young
guy like me!):

"This is going to get interesting . . .well, Bob/Petrose, what are you going to
say to this young whippersnapper???"

In the category of wise principles such as "Never eat at a restaurant named
'Moms's" I follow the principle of not backtalking to anyone named "Bruno". My
middle name BTW is Brooks.

Marianne Ahrne

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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Pat Walker wrote:
>
> Donna wrote:
> >
>
> > Either that or the poster IS your father and doesn't know you're here. ;) There
> > is another Donna Holmes in Marin, but our paths never cross.

> > thought it was just a little too weird. Names are funny things.
> >

> HUNDREDS of them (us). There's a lot on anonymity in numbers like


> that. I've even met two other Pat Walkers. Common names can be nice,
> and then a pain. Still don't know how the old bf found my email
> address. The internet is weird like that. Cosmic connections indeed.
>

I have an unusual name, on a par with 'Meryl Streep', but there are
two of us. The other Marianne Ahrne is my husband's cousin and she
is a nationally famous writer, film director and media star. She is
not on the net but I get mail all the time asking me to appear here
and there, give talks, help kids with personal info for their term
papers so they won't have to read her books, etc. I am no longer in
the phone book because of all the weird people who insisted on
reading their lousy poems to me or wanted to tell me what soulmates
they were. I have considered taking back my maiden name but I have
had my last name for 32 years now, long before my namesake became
famous. The funniest thing about it is the personalized address book
I got the other year, with 'Marianne' on it and the text on the back:
"Celebrities with this name are 'Marianne Ahrne', "Marianne B..." etc.

Ingrid Marianne Ahrne (not Sara Marianne Ahrne)

Robert B. Martin

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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pet...@aol.com (PetRose) wrote:


See PetRose, with age there is wisdom...
Robert B. Martin

Patrick Burke

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Pat Walker wrote:

> I was once trying to find out how an old boyfriend (16 years ago) found
> my email address, and did an internet search on my name. After 40 "Pat
> Walker"s, I hadn't even found one in California yet. There were

> HUNDREDS of them (us). There's a lot on anonymity in numbers like
> that. I've even met two other Pat Walkers. Common names can be nice,
> and then a pain. Still don't know how the old bf found my email
> address. The internet is weird like that. Cosmic connections indeed.

Yeah, it is kind of weird. Once I took a big lecture hall class in
college, at least 300 people, and to see how much space was left in the
class, the prof read roll the first day. There were five Pat Burkes. Three
of them were Patrick Burkes, two of us were Patrick J. Burkes. Just weird.

Suzanne

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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Sam wrote:

>I have good friends called Charles Dickens and Reider Hagard

***OUCH! Was he ever lucky enough to marry?

, and I
>wonder why their Dads and Mums did that to them. I also wonder why the
>late Martin Martin was so named.
>
>I have a relative with the name Ramsbottom - and I wonder somewhere
>along the line if someone had a face like a ram's bottom:)

***Lemme tell you about *the* house next door. This was in Charleston, IL and I
was 6 years old when we moved to this neighborhood. At the time we moved in,
the house was owned by Peter Dickson, he sold it to Frank Fraembs, (pronounced
"frames") who owned a photography shop, which, yes, did some framing. Frank
Fraemb sold the house to Dick Funk. Dick Funk had a son my age named Dickie.
When Dickie was 13, Dick Funk sold the house to Dick Wigley. I am *not* making
this up. My parents always used to crack jokes and laugh about this and I never
got it. I do now.

Suzanne

Sam McGredy

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Feb 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/21/98
to Marianne Ahrne

Marianne Ahrne wrote:
>
> Pat Walker wrote:
> >
> > Donna wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Either that or the poster IS your father and doesn't know you're here. ;) There
> > > is another Donna Holmes in Marin, but our paths never cross.
>
> > > thought it was just a little too weird. Names are funny things.
> > >
>
> > HUNDREDS of them (us). There's a lot on anonymity in numbers like
> > that. I've even met two other Pat Walkers. Common names can be nice,
> > and then a pain. Still don't know how the old bf found my email
> > address. The internet is weird like that. Cosmic connections indeed.
> >
> I have an unusual name, on a par with 'Meryl Streep', but there are
> two of us. The other Marianne Ahrne is my husband's cousin and she
> is a nationally famous writer, film director and media star. She is
> not on the net but I get mail all the time asking me to appear here
> and there, give talks, help kids with personal info for their term
> papers so they won't have to read her books, etc. I am no longer in
> the phone book because of all the weird people who insisted on
> reading their lousy poems to me or wanted to tell me what soulmates
> they were. I have considered taking back my maiden name but I have
> had my last name for 32 years now, long before my namesake became
> famous. The funniest thing about it is the personalized address book
> I got the other year, with 'Marianne' on it and the text on the back:
> "Celebrities with this name are 'Marianne Ahrne', "Marianne B..." etc.
>
> Ingrid Marianne Ahrne (not Sara Marianne Ahrne)

I have good friends called Charles Dickens and Reider Hagard, and I


wonder why their Dads and Mums did that to them. I also wonder why the
late Martin Martin was so named.

I have a relative with the name Ramsbottom - and I wonder somewhere
along the line if someone had a face like a ram's bottom:)

And Mac is the same as the Irish O' or "Son of", so was some ancient
Sam, somewhere along the line, a greedy man:)

Sam McGredy

Tashi148

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Mar 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/1/98
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Suzanne wrote:

>***Lemme tell you about *the* house next door. This was in Charleston, IL and
I
>was 6 years old when we moved to this neighborhood. At the time we moved in,
>the house was owned by Peter Dickson, he sold it to Frank Fraembs, (pronounced
>"frames") who owned a photography shop, which, yes, did some framing. Frank
>Fraemb sold the house to Dick Funk. Dick Funk had a son my age named Dickie.
>When Dickie was 13, Dick Funk sold the house to Dick Wigley. I am *not*
making
>this up. My parents always used to crack jokes and laugh about this and I
never
>got it. I do now.

Whattya suppose NASCAR driver Dick Trickle's folks were thinking about?

Trish

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