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Suzanne

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be serious
hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha. Anyway, I don't
give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in the
winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are you out
there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet your socks
are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did Vibert wear
anyway?

Suzanne,
currently sockless in Illinois


sunflower

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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"Suzanne" <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:8dqr2r$1m...@drn.newsguy.com...
Look at who is the originator of that thread. One J Del Col, whom I believe
was a regular in RGR at some time. Some of the folks at GW trashed him
pretty good on a thread regarding tetanus shots, (so much for Spike not
allowing combative and unkind posts) and I believe that this just might be
his subtle way of thumbing his nose at the inanity found there. I would hope
so, anyway.

Take a look at the thread from the guy who wants folks to figure up for him
how to mix fungicide.
http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0408133323638.html?6 Now
*that's* OUTRAGEOUS!

Sunflower

Bob Bauer

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Sunflower showed us:

>Take a look at the thread from the guy who wants folks to figure up for him
>how to mix fungicide.
>http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0408133323638.html?6 Now
>*that's* OUTRAGEOUS!

Folks who find it difficult to figure out what 1/3 means, should not
be anywhere near poisonous chemicals. <g>

When it comes to noticing the general low level of brain activity in
the world, I just can't be very surprised anymore. I was watching the
Jay Leno 'Jaywalking' segment one night not too long ago, and nobody
that he asked could name a country that bordered the United States.

Don't forget that the old TV show 'Gomer Pyle' was rated number one
for several years in a row. I now realize that this was because Gomer
was a shining role model for many. <g>


Bob Bauer

Celeste

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Suzanne wrote:
>
> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
> title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!

I thought this was, too.

http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0316301225751.html?7

Baldo Villegas

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Hey Sunnanish:
If you ever want to know about Rose Rosette, you should have come to us for
the information about this disease first instead of wasting your time at
Garden Web.

Suzanne <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:8dqr2r$1m...@drn.newsguy.com...

> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information
on
> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very
sock

Rob & Laura Porter

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Bob Bauer wrote:

> When it comes to noticing the general low level of brain activity in
> the world, I just can't be very surprised anymore. I was watching the
> Jay Leno 'Jaywalking' segment one night not too long ago, and nobody
> that he asked could name a country that bordered the United States.

As another off topic reinforcement to this example my
husband works in Maine, at a high school, and we live
in Canada--about 15 minutes from his work. One time
he was giving a speech to a group of students from
another school further down south in Maine, about
a 2 hour drive from the border, with his own students in
attendance. One kid from the other school, upon finding
out Rob was from Canada, asked if he was related to
this guy the kid knew from Canada.

My hubby assumed the guy must have had the same last
name or something.

Nope, totally different last name. Rob said, " Oh yeah,
we are all related in Canada." without batting an eye.
Some of his kids smirked, but this kid (17 years old)
actually believed him! Yeah and we all live in igloos,
hang out with Bob and Doug McKenzie and everyone
speaks french, without exception.

Duh.

Laura -- still baffled why it is so difficult for many
Americans to learn a teenie, tiny, eensie, weensie, bit
of non-US history/and or politics. I mean, I was forced
to learn some US history, European, etc...

Julia

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Suzanne wrote:
>
> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
> title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be serious
> hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha. Anyway, I don't

You went there for serious advice? No mo Russians for you, girl!

> give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in the

How many thorns have you stepped on?

> winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are you out

White, unless it's summer and I wear my slogger sandals. Or early morning
in what passes here for winter, I wear my UGG boots. Warm as toast.

> there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet your socks
> are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did Vibert wear
> anyway?
>
> Suzanne,
> currently sockless in Illinois

Was it hot where you are on Wednesday? I was in STL and it was 85 with
about 95% humidity. I hated it, so did my kids. Glad to be back home,
donchaknow.

--
Julia
Visit the San Diego Rose Society at
http://www.geocities.com/sdrosea

Celeste

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Baldo Villegas wrote:
>
> Hey Sunnanish:
> If you ever want to know about Rose Rosette, you should have come to us for
> the information about this disease first instead of wasting your time at
> Garden Web.

I went to your site, and the photos there of plants with Rose Rosette
are very unclear, they just look like wilted plants, and they do not
show the extreme thorniness that the photo in the Gardenweb post showed,
so the question remains.

>
> Suzanne <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:8dqr2r$1m...@drn.newsguy.com...

> > Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information
> on
> > this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very
> sock
> > title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be serious
> > hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha. Anyway, I
> don't

> > give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in
> the

> > winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are you
> out

Suzanne

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Bugego writes-

>Hey Sunnanish:
>If you ever want to know about Rose Rosette, you should have come to us for
>the information about this disease first instead of wasting your time at
>Garden Web.

***Excuse me, but the Garden Web is not a place I go to for information.
HOWEVER, someone posted, right here on RGR, a most vivid photo of rose rosette
disease. It looked *exactly* like what I had on a couple of my roses last fall,
so I wanted to check it out. I read the thread and found it interesting, which
is more than I can say for information on rose rosette disease on RGR. So, what
can you tell me about this disease? If it shows up again on these two roses,
must I destroy the roses?

Suzanne


Suzanne

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Utah Bob writes-

>Sunflower showed us:

>>Take a look at the thread from the guy who wants folks to figure up for him
>>how to mix fungicide.
>>http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0408133323638.html?6 Now
>>*that's* OUTRAGEOUS!

>Folks who find it difficult to figure out what 1/3 means, should not
>be anywhere near poisonous chemicals. <g>

***I honestly believe this guy thought the amount of chemical was one third of a
gallon.

>When it comes to noticing the general low level of brain activity in
>the world, I just can't be very surprised anymore. I was watching the
>Jay Leno 'Jaywalking' segment one night not too long ago, and nobody
>that he asked could name a country that bordered the United States.

***you're joking, aren't you?

>Don't forget that the old TV show 'Gomer Pyle' was rated number one
>for several years in a row. I now realize that this was because Gomer
>was a shining role model for many. <g>

***forget Gomer Pyle. What color socks do you wear?

Suzanne


Suzanne

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Julia writes-

>Suzanne wrote:

>> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
>> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
>> title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be serious
>>hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha. Anyway, I don't

>You went there for serious advice?

***NO! I went there to look up the information on the Rose Rosette disease
thread. Only time I'd ever ask for advice there is if I should ever want a
discount to Disney World.

No mo Russians for you, girl!

***ha ha, think again, toots!

>>give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in the

>How many thorns have you stepped on?

***too many to count and I've never gotten an infection! I just pull them out,
spray the bloody hole with Bactine and go about my bidness.

>> winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are you out

>White, unless it's summer and I wear my slogger sandals. Or early morning


>in what passes here for winter, I wear my UGG boots. Warm as toast.

***I bet you are the type to scrub your feetsies with a pumice stone.

>>there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet your socks
>>are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did Vibert wear
>> anyway?

***Gee, BCD is so silent. I wonder if he's okay? I'm sure he is, I bet he's at
this very moment, doing research on Vibert's socks. I just know it.

>Was it hot where you are on Wednesday?

***no, it was in the upper 40's, very cool, windy and rainy.

I was in STL and it was 85 with
>about 95% humidity.

***Illinois is a big state, number one. Second, you were in Missouri, not
Illinois. Third, St. Louis is down south, about 185 miles from where I am,
about 300 miles from Chicago. It's a different world down there in Little
Egypt.

I hated it,

***you are biased.

so did my kids.

***double-biasassed

Glad to be back home,

***well, if you honestly do like hot, dry, sandy, barreness, glory to you.
Triple glory to you.

>donchaknow.

***What I know is that you should at least admit you were totally stunned by all
the sheer, lush, GREEN, ness of your ole hometown. Every visitor I've ever had
from CA.......always mentions how green and lush everything is here in Paradise.
My ex-sister-in-law popped in last fall and left saying "I just can't believe
all the green, how dense everything is, and all those colors on the bushes and
trees, it's like a jungle..."

Suzanne


lms

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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In article <8dtjnf$2o...@drn.newsguy.com>, Suzanne says...

>My ex-sister-in-law popped in last fall and left saying "I just can't believe
>all the green, how dense everything is, and all those colors on the bushes and
>trees, it's like a jungle..."

hahaha. ok.
I once had--this is a repeat--a senior visitor from <choke> ~Chicagoland (it was
July, wasn't it?) and she was astonished to no end to see leaves on roses.
She said roses in Paradise never had any leaves at this particular time.
True or not, it was a great rose moment. I just couldn't wait to repeat it.

m


>
>Suzanne
>


Suzanne

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Mack writes-

>In article <8dtjnf$2o...@drn.newsguy.com>, Suzanne says...

>>My ex-sister-in-law popped in last fall and left saying "I just can't believe
>>all the green, how dense everything is, and all those colors on the bushes and
>>trees, it's like a jungle..."

>hahaha. ok.
>I once had--this is a repeat--a senior visitor from <choke> ~Chicagoland (it was
>July, wasn't it?)

***Who? Tell me!

and she was astonished to no end to see leaves on roses.

***I demand to know what time of the year this mystery vistor was visiting you.
I can tell you for a fact, right now, on this day, April 22, in the year 00,
every single one of my roses are leafed out big time....except the bareroots I
just planted and the maidens I dug up last week. I will have blooms galore by
mid-May.

>She said roses in Paradise never had any leaves at this particular time.

***When is this "particular" time? And do keep in mind....Paradise ain't
Chicago! I am nearly 3 hours South.

>True or not, it was a great rose moment. I just couldn't wait to repeat it.

***What color socks do you wear? Are they clean or the holey, dog-sapped kind?

Suzanne


lms

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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In article <8dtouj$2v...@drn.newsguy.com>, Suzanne says...

> ~Chicagoland (it was
>>July, wasn't it?)
>

>***Who? Tell me!]

I don't remember the name, I only remember the compliment.

> and she was astonished to no end to see leaves on roses.
>
>***I demand to know what time of the year this mystery vistor was visiting you.

It was July. After Father's Day, that's when it would have been. Father's
Day is close to something, that's why it would have been then.


>I can tell you for a fact, right now, on this day, April 22, in the year 00,
>every single one of my roses are leafed out big time....except the bareroots I
>just planted and the maidens I dug up last week. I will have blooms galore by
>mid-May.

definitely wasn't early. everybody has early leaves, even the moldiest
swampies. Blanc double bloomed today, Hansa probably tomorrow. Foetida
has the first splatters all over. Planted 5 roses today. One hole.
hahahaha

>>She said roses in Paradise never had any leaves at this particular time.
>
>***When is this "particular" time? And do keep in mind....Paradise ain't
>Chicago! I am nearly 3 hours South.

Maybe it was Ohio.

>>True or not, it was a great rose moment. I just couldn't wait to repeat it.
>
>***What color socks do you wear? Are they clean or the holey, dog-sapped kind?

that's ridiculous. white, except to funerals. someone I know doesn't allow
holey socks. be damned if I really care.

m


>
>Suzanne
>


lms

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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In article <390264BC...@hotmail.com>, Celeste says...

>
>
>
>Celeste wrote:
>>
>> Suzanne wrote:
>> >
>>> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
>> > this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
>> > title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!
>>
>> I thought this was, too.
>>
>> http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/sametrash.html
>
>Can you imagine paying for a rose in the fall of 1998 and still looking
>for it now? Hmmmm?

hahahaha. give it up. do you have the nail clipper blues?

Alice provides to people old valuable roses which brings joy to their lives,
and what do you do besides remain a usenet hoodlum, a wrecker of newsgroups,
and a trasher of decent people's enjoyment? a trasher of the rose?

m


Celeste

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Celeste wrote:
>
> Suzanne wrote:
> >
> > Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information on
> > this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very sock
> > title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!
>
> I thought this was, too.
>

> http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0316301225751.html?7

James Delahanty

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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BRIGHT ones.

JD

Bob Bauer

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Suzanne said:

>***I honestly believe this guy thought the amount of chemical was one third of a
>gallon.

It would be interesting to see his plants after applying 1/3 of a
gallon of fungicide.

>... I was watching the


>>Jay Leno 'Jaywalking' segment one night not too long ago, and nobody
>>that he asked could name a country that bordered the United States.
>
>***you're joking, aren't you?

I wish I was. It is not a pretty sight. Dumb is all around us. You
just never know. The person standing right next to you could be dumb.
<g>

>***forget Gomer Pyle. What color socks do you wear?

Orange of course! (Unless I'm in the mood for Red that is....)

Bob B.

Prodigion

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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James Delahanty wrote:
>
> BRIGHT ones.
>

Fuzzy ones - no stripes. Unless I wear boat shoes, then I go nekkid.

-Dave-

Baldo Villegas

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Suzannish:
First things first, I wear solid color socks, when I wear shoes. Generally
my feet go nakid as I like to wear sandals.

I'll try to get better pictures for my website later this spring when I
visit the sites north of Reno where I found Rose Rosette last year. The GW
site picture is great as it shows great detail on the thorns, short
internodal spaces of the stems/leaves, and the red coloration of the
stems/thorns. My pictures just show the witches broom appearance of the rose
stems. Unfortunately the Canada thistles nearby were shedding their seeds
and that's the what stuff you see on the picture.

You might want to have some of the stems that show the thorniness looked at
as the presence of the blister mites is the key factor in diagnosing rose
rosette. They are very tiny but you can see them around the rose tips.
Chances are that your roses are very healthy and there is nothing to worry
about ...........my recommendation. However, if they are infected, there is
no cure and you just have to dig them up and use them for firewood or toss
them in the trash can. Insecticidal soap or horticultural oil works great on
blister mites.


> Eggle Eyes burped:

Bill

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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In article <%2EM4.686$Vh4.1...@nntp1.onemain.com>,
ros...@jps.net says...

>Suzannish:
>First things first, I wear solid color socks, when I wear shoes. Generally
>my feet go nakid as I like to wear sandals.
>
>I'll try to get better pictures for my website later this spring when I
>visit the sites north of Reno where I found Rose Rosette last year. The GW
>site picture is great as it shows great detail on the thorns, short
>internodal spaces of the stems/leaves, and the red coloration of the
>stems/thorns. My pictures just show the witches broom appearance of the rose
>stems. Unfortunately the Canada thistles nearby were shedding their seeds
>and that's the what stuff you see on the picture.
>
>You might want to have some of the stems that show the thorniness looked at
>as the presence of the blister mites is the key factor in diagnosing rose
>rosette. They are very tiny but you can see them around the rose tips.
>Chances are that your roses are very healthy and there is nothing to worry
>about ...........my recommendation. However, if they are infected, there is
>no cure and you just have to dig them up and use them for firewood or toss
>them in the trash can. Insecticidal soap or horticultural oil works great on
>blister mites.
>
>
Baldo, I have had stems that looked just like the ones on
GW years ago in L.A. on a Hoover Climber. Every year in the
spring when it got new basal breaks one or two of them would
get the thorns and some times the cane instead of being
round was oval and way wider then thick. Very odd looking
foliage also. Would prune back to where it was round or
clear to the bud union. The rest of the year all growth was
normal. That climber was near 18 years old when we left L.A.
and still growing strong. Have seen that kind o growth on
several roses in present garden but none as often at on that
climber. Those canes also grew very fast and if not cut off
usually started dying in a month or two. Too much nitrogen
may even cause this in the spring and I did feed the
climbers double to triple the amount given to non climbers.

Bill

tomli...@liggettroses.com

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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I wear wool socks; they usta' be kinda'-white, but bein wool, I can't bleach
'em, so now they're various shades of beige.

If you work in a rose garden barefooted, sweetie, then your
"thorn-remover-physician" must LOVE you, Ha! Ha!

Had your Tetanus shots in the past five years?

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"Suzanne" <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up information
on
> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very
sock

> title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be serious
> hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha. Anyway, I
don't

> give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in
the

> winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are you
out

> there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet your
socks
> are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did
Vibert wear
> anyway?
>

Cass Bernstein

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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In article <8du0gl$9...@drn.newsguy.com>, lms <lms_m...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

Now how weird is that? Blanc DdC bloomed here Friday too. Not earlier.
Zone 9, not even a real frost this year. There are things about rose
timing and dormancy that I need to know more about. So are your apple
trees just about at the end of the bloom cycle too?

--
Cass

Julia

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Suzanne wrote:
> >White, unless it's summer and I wear my slogger sandals. Or early morning
> >in what passes here for winter, I wear my UGG boots. Warm as toast.
>
> ***I bet you are the type to scrub your feetsies with a pumice stone.

No. I use a razor.



> ***Illinois is a big state, number one. Second, you were in Missouri, not
> Illinois. Third, St. Louis is down south, about 185 miles from where I am,
> about 300 miles from Chicago. It's a different world down there in Little
> Egypt.

Are we being racist?



> I hated it,
>
> ***you are biased.

No, I'm right. ;-)



> ***well, if you honestly do like hot, dry, sandy, barreness, glory to you.
> Triple glory to you.

I challenge you at any time, to come visit my garden and see its hot, dry,
sandy barrenness. Like, uh, right now.



> ***What I know is that you should at least admit you were totally stunned by all
> the sheer, lush, GREEN, ness of your ole hometown. Every visitor I've ever had

Not stunned. It was almost as green back there as Portland was last June.

Julia

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Suzanne wrote:
> ***I demand to know what time of the year this mystery vistor was visiting you.
> I can tell you for a fact, right now, on this day, April 22, in the year 00,
> every single one of my roses are leafed out big time....except the bareroots I
> just planted and the maidens I dug up last week. I will have blooms galore by
> mid-May.

And Bill, Pet, Silvie, me, etal, will be well into our SECond flush.

James Delahanty

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Julia <sdr...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not stunned. It was almost as green back there as Portland was last June.

Is it really fair to count the moss growing on the north side of sedentary
people as part of the
equation?

JD

Julia

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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James Delahanty wrote:
> Is it really fair to count the moss growing on the north side of sedentary
> people as part of the
> equation?

Probably not. When you're right, you're right.

News

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lms wrote in message <8du35f$c...@drn.newsguy.com>...

>In article <390264BC...@hotmail.com>, Celeste says...
>>

>Alice provides to people old valuable roses which brings joy to their


lives,
>and what do you do besides remain a usenet hoodlum, a wrecker of
newsgroups,
>and a trasher of decent people's enjoyment? a trasher of the rose?


***** this is one of my Alice Roses:
http://www.comcat.com/~thomson/henriFouquier.jpg . It's a Gallica called
'Henri Fouquier'. It's a damn pretty rose. Very few nurseries carry Gallicas
and other non-mainstream roses. Those people who are crazy enuf to try to
sustain nurseries that offer these plants should be encouraged and
supported.

DAZZLER

lms

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In article <cbern-EB94E3....@news.firstworld.net>, Cass says...

>Now how weird is that? Blanc DdC bloomed here Friday too. Not earlier.

!! I've been threatening to take its pic all day.
Fimbriata, right across from it, bloomed today. So we'll be assaulted with
fragrance every time we go out to the barn. It's criminal. This is most
definitely starting out to be the best year on record.
Buds everywhere, no late frost blackness anywhere. No crispy frieds anywhere.
It's never happened before, since I started doing this thing here.

Today I planted an entire virgin garden and finished up planting the old one.
Took a whole bunch of tomatoes, chiles, tomatillos and phlox from the greenhouse
and put them in the ground. Then I laid down the anti-dog devices, went into
the house and hit the button.
So now it's time for a good cup of Starbucks and a little break.
I picked up my token AARS rose--Gemini, and also picked out a bustingly
healthy looking Pink Peace, a rose I am positive will not let me down.

>Zone 9, not even a real frost this year.

I figure your climate must be similar, barring the regular freezes we have.
Profound, huh?
When that doesn't happen, we just like you. heh.

There are things about rose
>timing and dormancy that I need to know more about. So are your apple
>trees just about at the end of the bloom cycle too?

si. Granny Smith is the last blaster, it's loaded now. The pear tree's always
my fave.
The quince is amazingly still lit up bright red--it has to be the longest
blooming of any of these units, started about a month ago. Really sparkles.
Don't remember seeing any plum explosion--the plum tree is still
a 'baby' though. There are some plum trees up by NM Tech that just knock me
over. Had to have some of that here. The potentilla's awake now. That's
always been one of the most fascinating for me. I meant to get some geum this
year but spaced it. Had it for awhile, was most delightful. :)/~

m


>
>--
>Cass


lms

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In article <8dv663$6...@chronicle.concentric.net>, "t...@liggettroses.com" says...

>
>I wear wool socks; they usta' be kinda'-white, but bein wool, I can't bleach
>'em, so now they're various shades of beige.
>
>If you work in a rose garden barefooted, sweetie, then your
>"thorn-remover-physician" must LOVE you, Ha! Ha!

That's another great thing about having a nice thick golf green
lawn to walk on between the roses. Of course this doesn't altogether stop
thesea kinda accidents but hey, that's life.
And I wish we still had onea those nice thick golf green lawns.
Across the ditch it's real nice, getting nicer. Has tak.en forev.er it seems.

m

>
>Had your Tetanus shots in the past five years?

>> give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot. But, in

lms

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In article <sg7050...@corp.supernews.com>, "News" says...

>***** this is one of my Alice Roses:
>http://www.comcat.com/~thomson/henriFouquier.jpg . It's a Gallica called
>'Henri Fouquier'. It's a damn pretty rose. Very few nurseries carry Gallicas
>and other non-mainstream roses. Those people who are crazy enuf to try to
>sustain nurseries that offer these plants should be encouraged and
>supported.

heheh. Xanthina Spontanea.
http://www.nmt.edu/~mstephen/Xan1a.jpg
Lagerpeter never looked like this. But then it's not supposed to. :)

That's actually a Stainless Steel creeping into the pic there. Some kind of
brother of Lagerpeter. These two roses are trying to kill each other,
and getting big in the process.

m


>
>DAZZLER
>
>


Cass Bernstein

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In article <8e00es$v...@drn.newsguy.com>, lms <lms_m...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>
> Today I planted an entire virgin garden and finished up planting the old
> one.
> Took a whole bunch of tomatoes, chiles, tomatillos and phlox from the
> greenhouse
> and put them in the ground. Then I laid down the anti-dog devices, went
> into
> the house and hit the button.

Radio collar stuff? My best dog devices are the pruned canes laid on the
ground where I don't want them to run. Stopped them from running down
the little rosies until I laid the mulch on top of them by mistake. Then
the dogs ran down the little rosies. Today when I exhumed the rootstock
(the scion was wiped out by one ball-mad dog), I found that the canes
had swollen bud eyes and one end was trying to root. So I stuck it back
under the mulch.


> So now it's time for a good cup of Starbucks and a little break.
> I picked up my token AARS rose--Gemini, and also picked out a bustingly
> healthy looking Pink Peace, a rose I am positive will not let me down.

Me too. I snagged my first HT last week -- a drugstore store special in
a 5 gal. pot -- Peace, from Weeks. Its a keeper. I wanted to post a nice
picture for Bill with the measuring tape showing the blooms 5.5 inches
across, but my camera doesn't do yellow with pink edges very well.

--
Cass

lms

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In article <cbern-89E35F....@news.firstworld.net>, Cass says...

>
>In article <8e00es$v...@drn.newsguy.com>, lms <lms_m...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Today I planted an entire virgin garden and finished up planting the old
>> one.
>> Took a whole bunch of tomatoes, chiles, tomatillos and phlox from the
>> greenhouse
>> and put them in the ground. Then I laid down the anti-dog devices, went
>> into
>> the house and hit the button.
>
>Radio collar stuff?

hahaha. I don't thinkso. 2 x 4 welded wire laid flat, overlapping. The
button's the LawnGenie. :)

My best dog devices are the pruned canes laid on the
>ground where I don't want them to run. Stopped them from running down
>the little rosies until I laid the mulch on top of them by mistake. Then
>the dogs ran down the little rosies. Today when I exhumed the rootstock
>(the scion was wiped out by one ball-mad dog), I found that the canes
>had swollen bud eyes and one end was trying to root. So I stuck it back
>under the mulch.

I thought I had a dead one--a rather small unit-- but ended up replanting it
with Pink Peace. I'll probably dig this one up and put it in a pot. I
planted Charlotte Anne in the ground two years ago, then dug it up and repotted
it. Grew it til it got decent sized, now it has a great home up against the
greenhouse.


>Me too. I snagged my first HT last week -- a drugstore store special in
>a 5 gal. pot -- Peace, from Weeks. Its a keeper. I wanted to post a nice
>picture for Bill with the measuring tape showing the blooms 5.5 inches
>across, but my camera doesn't do yellow with pink edges very well.

5 and a half won't phaze Bill. Melville claims a nine.

m

>
>--
>Cass


James Delahanty

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News <tho...@edma.com> wrote in message
news:sg7050...@corp.supernews.com...

> lms wrote in message <8du35f$c...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >>
>
> >Alice provides to people old valuable roses which brings joy to their
> lives,
>
I do not know the lady in the Gardenweb commentary and I hope she gets
closure for her problem.
However, I have had dealings with White Rabbit and the consequence includes
some fine roses.
More to the point, however, Alice has provided this rgr with some great
services including the
VRS t-shirt, and the expediting and shipment of the latest BCD book and the
individualized book plates
which were a source of great pleasure and helped to bring the rgr people
closer together. It may be
that the circumstances of association do not permit those kind of actions in
the foreseeable future, but
the services should not be forgotten because of poor institutional
memory....

FWIW

JimD

Suzanne

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Tom writes-

>I wear wool socks; they usta' be kinda'-white, but bein wool, I can't bleach
>'em, so now they're various shades of beige.

***Yuck! I can't stand wool socks, itch, itch, itch. However, I admit to
wearing them when skiing or something like that. But.....I always make sure I
have cotton socks on underneath the wool ones. I don't know how you stand it.

>If you work in a rose garden barefooted, sweetie, then your
>"thorn-remover-physician" must LOVE you, Ha! Ha!

***He's never met me. I've only been to the doctor once in the past 6 years and
that was when I got the pneumonia a couple of years ago. Like I said, if I get
a thorn, I just yank or cut it out, spray with Bactine and go right on pruning.

>Had your Tetanus shots in the past five years?

***Uh, no, I think it's been at least 10 years or so. Do you really think this
is necessary? Tetanus is soil borne, isn't it? The thorns that end up in my
feet aren't from the dirt - they come from fresh prunings that I've dropped here
and there in the grass.

Suzanne


Suzanne

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Baldo writes-

>Suzannish:
>First things first, I wear solid color socks, when I wear shoes.

***solid colored socks? Imagine that.

Generally
>my feet go nakid as I like to wear sandals.

***sandles are not a true state of nakedness.

>I'll try to get better pictures for my website later this spring when I
>visit the sites north of Reno where I found Rose Rosette last year. The GW
>site picture is great as it shows great detail on the thorns, short
>internodal spaces of the stems/leaves, and the red coloration of the
>stems/thorns. My pictures just show the witches broom appearance of the rose
>stems. Unfortunately the Canada thistles nearby were shedding their seeds
>and that's the what stuff you see on the picture.

***Okay.

>You might want to have some of the stems that show the thorniness looked at
>as the presence of the blister mites is the key factor in diagnosing rose
>rosette. They are very tiny but you can see them around the rose tips.
>Chances are that your roses are very healthy and there is nothing to worry
>about ...........my recommendation. However, if they are infected, there is
>no cure and you just have to dig them up and use them for firewood or toss
>them in the trash can. Insecticidal soap or horticultural oil works great on
>blister mites.

***Okay, if those crazy looking canes come back, I'll cut off one and take it to
the Farm Extension service and have them look at it. However, if they find out
I have multiflora seedlings growing here......I'm afraid they might make me
destroy them.

Suzanne


Johnson, Brenda [RICH2:2V90-S:EXCH]

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Suzanne wrote:

> Tom writes-
>
> <snip>


>
> >If you work in a rose garden barefooted, sweetie, then your
> >"thorn-remover-physician" must LOVE you, Ha! Ha!
>
> ***He's never met me. I've only been to the doctor once in the past 6 years and
> that was when I got the pneumonia a couple of years ago. Like I said, if I get
> a thorn, I just yank or cut it out, spray with Bactine and go right on pruning.
>
> >Had your Tetanus shots in the past five years?
>
> ***Uh, no, I think it's been at least 10 years or so. Do you really think this
> is necessary? Tetanus is soil borne, isn't it? The thorns that end up in my
> feet aren't from the dirt - they come from fresh prunings that I've dropped here
> and there in the grass.
>
> Suzanne

It could get in through the wound, even though it's small and I don't think Bactine
will cut it. The shot is a very good idea, the alternative is not pretty.

-Bren


News

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Johnson, Brenda [RICH2:2V90-S:EXCH] wrote in message
<3905B3DE...@americasm01.nt.com>...


... Listen to BREN! SHAZAM!... how much does the shot cost anyway? ten
bucks? something like that... best damned gardening insurance policy you can
ever buy... now go out and DO it immediately (if not sooner!) and tell the
doctor we all want an email from him/her confirming that you have done so
(do you faint when you get shots?)... just wondering... my 6'5" brother
does... makes an awful sound when he hits the floor... surprised he hasn't
cracked it or something... don't worry about him, though, he has a thick
Nordic skull...

Cass Bernstein

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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In article <8e47hb$v...@drn.newsguy.com>, Suzanne
<Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote after Tom said:


> >Had your Tetanus shots in the past five years?
>
> ***Uh, no, I think it's been at least 10 years or so. Do you really
> think this
> is necessary? Tetanus is soil borne, isn't it? The thorns that end up
> in my
> feet aren't from the dirt - they come from fresh prunings that I've
> dropped here
> and there in the grass.

Five years is recommended if you're around horse stuff.

--
Cass

Johnson, Brenda [RICH2:2V90-S:EXCH]

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News wrote:

> Johnson, Brenda [RICH2:2V90-S:EXCH] wrote in message
> <3905B3DE...@americasm01.nt.com>...
> >Suzanne wrote:
> >
> >>

> <snip>


> >> ***Uh, no, I think it's been at least 10 years or so. Do you really
> think this
> >> is necessary? Tetanus is soil borne, isn't it? The thorns that end up
> in my
> >> feet aren't from the dirt - they come from fresh prunings that I've
> dropped here
> >> and there in the grass.
> >>

> >> Suzanne
> >
> >It could get in through the wound, even though it's small and I don't think
> Bactine
> >will cut it. The shot is a very good idea, the alternative is not pretty.
>
> ... Listen to BREN! SHAZAM!... how much does the shot cost anyway? ten
> bucks? something like that... best damned gardening insurance policy you can
> ever buy... now go out and DO it immediately (if not sooner!) and tell the
> doctor we all want an email from him/her confirming that you have done so
> (do you faint when you get shots?)... just wondering... my 6'5" brother
> does... makes an awful sound when he hits the floor... surprised he hasn't
> cracked it or something... don't worry about him, though, he has a thick
> Nordic skull...

Yeah! Listen to meeeee! Now about that brother of yours, if he's not an older
brother (middle-aged or so), does he like older women <grin, leer>
-Bren


Pallas-Rose

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Apr 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/26/00
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I wear no socks--just slides, and take my chances in the garden, much to my
sandal-hatin's husband's chagrin. El doctore told me tetanus shot every 10
years for stuff you get jabbed with in the house; every 5 years for stuff you
get jabbed with outside--including stuff that's around horse manure.

Regards,
Athene

jde...@my-deja.com

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In article <8dqr2r$1m...@drn.newsguy.com>,

Suzanne <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up
information on
> this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this very
sock
> title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be
serious
> hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha.
Anyway, I don't
> give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot.
But, in the
> winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!! Are
you out
> there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet
your socks
> are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did
Vibert wear
> anyway?


I originated the thread in response to a spate of inquiries
about rosarian ages, occupations, locations and sleeping habits.

As I said in a followup, sometimes you have to
fish really deep when trolling, but occasionally they
just jump right in the boat, even on RGR.


J. Del Col

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

jde...@my-deja.com

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In article <_A7M4.2809$L3.2...@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com>,

"sunflower" <sunf...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
>
> "Suzanne" <Suzanne...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:8dqr2r$1m...@drn.newsguy.com...
> > Honestly, I went over to the Garden Web Rose Forum to look up
information
> on
> > this Rose Rosette Disease........and there was a thread with this
very
> sock
> > title. Simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! I mean, these are supposed to be
serious
> > hosarians! Either that or Spike has a fetish for socks, ha ha.
Anyway, I
> don't
> > give a hootie hoot about socks coz I do all my yardwork barefoot.
But, in
> the
> > winter, I wear either solid white or black socks. Hey, BCD!!!!!
Are you
> out
> > there? I know you're lurking. So, just want to tell you that I bet
your
> socks
> > are tweedie with leather patches on the heels. What kinda socks did
> Vibert wear
> > anyway?
> >
> > Suzanne,
> > currently sockless in Illinois
> >
> Look at who is the originator of that thread. One J Del Col, whom I
believe
> was a regular in RGR at some time. Some of the folks at GW trashed
him
> pretty good on a thread regarding tetanus shots,....


As far as facts about tetanus go, they never laid a glove on me.

sunflower

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<jde...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8ebtbk$ifk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Well, no. *that* much is true. But ole Spikester's policy against personal
attacks wasn't really worth much in that thread, was it? Or, a subsequent
few posts. Seems the forum is "moderated" only when one of Spike's holy
cows is bar-b-q'd. Pretty deceptive on GW's part. At least here, you
*know* you'll get your tailfeathers singed occasionally!

Sunflower


Sunflower

jde...@my-deja.com

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In article <8du0gl$9...@drn.newsguy.com>,
lms <lms_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <8dtouj$2v...@drn.newsguy.com>, Suzanne says...
>
> > ~Chicagoland (it was
> >>July, wasn't it?)
> >
> >***Who? Tell me!]
>
> I don't remember the name, I only remember the compliment.
>
> > and she was astonished to no end to see leaves on roses.

> >
> >***I demand to know what time of the year this mystery vistor was
visiting you.
>
> It was July. After Father's Day, that's when it would have been.
Father's
> Day is close to something, that's why it would have been then.

>
> >I can tell you for a fact, right now, on this day, April 22, in the
year 00,
> >every single one of my roses are leafed out big time....except the
bareroots I
> >just planted and the maidens I dug up last week. I will have blooms
galore by
> >mid-May.
>
> definitely wasn't early. everybody has early leaves, even the
moldiest
> swampies. Blanc double bloomed today, Hansa probably tomorrow.
Foetida
> has the first splatters all over. Planted 5 roses today. One hole.
> hahahaha
>
> >>She said roses in Paradise never had any leaves at this particular
time.
> >
> >***When is this "particular" time? And do keep in mind....Paradise
ain't
> >Chicago! I am nearly 3 hours South.
>
> Maybe it was Ohio.
>
> >>True or not, it was a great rose moment. I just couldn't wait to
repeat it.
> >
> >***What color socks do you wear? Are they clean or the holey,
dog-sapped kind?
>
> that's ridiculous. white, except to funerals. ...

One of Mark Twain's rules for funeral etiquette--

"Do not bring your dog."

Suzanne

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J. Del Col writes-

Suzanne wrote:

>> >***What color socks do you wear? Are they clean or the holey,
>dog-sapped kind?

And Mack said:

>> that's ridiculous. white, except to funerals. ...

>One of Mark Twain's rules for funeral etiquette--

>"Do not bring your dog."

***Why not? What possibly could Twain have been thinking of?

Suzanne


Forthgb

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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>>One of Mark Twain's rules for funeral etiquette--
>
>>"Do not bring your dog."
>
>***Why not? What possibly could Twain have been thinking of?

Lord only knows what he was thinking at any time, but being one who prefers
cats, there have been a lot of funerals I've been to that I would have
preferred the company of a dog.


forthgb, in springfield oregon
lynda
"I am woman hear me roar, I am husband whatthelldidyousay?"

Joan Hunter

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I know who you are, aahahahahaha!!! You fell for it! You
idiot! OH MY GOD!! Sayonara, babe. Wrens are so damned
cooperative. :)
--
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http://packetderm.cotse.com/cgi-bin/blockit.cgi


Joan Hunter

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