Keiki Paste
Bill-in-FL
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"Bill-in-FL" <NOSPAMwk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Bill-in-FL" <NOSPAMwk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Rick~
helps palps. develop new kieks/ small plants on existing canes
after blooms are past. Have one now 2-2" leafs growing on a
plant that I acquired from a friend 3 months ago. Was going to
hit the trash can due to lack of understanding and culture. Buds
died/lady never cut back cain. I got it/repotted it after
cutting away most of its roots/ all rotted and now it's smiling
and saying hi with a keiki. Never used the paste/ just a bit of
wet spung. moss tied to the node.
Plants are cool!
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Elpaninaro
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It is a paste that looks and feels like Vaseline. You put it on the nodes of
Phalaenopsis spikes after the blooms fall off, and you can also try putting it
inside the spike joints after making a tiny incision in the spike under the
node cover.
I have not seen or heard much about the stuff in years personally. It does work
sometimes, but it is no guarantee. The plant needs to have at least some
genetic predisposition to throwing keikeis for it to be fully effective.
Tom.
Philipp Christ
Does anyone know the formula of this mixture?
Philipp
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"Philipp Christ" <phic...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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Al
but:
Here is a recipe for making a "hormone paste" that will induce plantlets to
grow from nodal buds. It was published in "Mircopropagation of Orchids"
in grams:
44.0 Vaseline (petroleum jelly)
09.0 Cetyl/stearyl alcohol
05.0 Paraffin oil (liquid petrolatum)
02.0 Tween 40
00.3 to 00.5 Benzylaminopurine (benzyl adenine)
40.00 Water
Melt Vaseline and alcohol in a beaker placed in a hot water bath of about
55C. Add Paraffin oil and tween 40. Add water. Stir vigorously. Dissolve
BAP in a minimum volume of ethanol and stir it into warm mixture. The
resulting paste can be stored in a refrigerator until use.
The active ingredient is the BAP. But I have also heard it said that the
petroleum compounds may play a role. Tween is a surfactant.
There are other ways of making babies without using a lab.
"Mircopropagation of Orchids" also mentions (and probably somewhere
describes) methods of shoot production by wrapping nodes with moist sphagnum
and it mentions that 'Spam has also been used to produce plantlets from cut
flower-stalk sections by a semiasceptic method. I couldn't find the
procedures for these particular methods but then I did find the recipe I set
out to find. ...and I did it before my first cup off coffee.
For you mad scientists of the home laboratory type, I think you can find the
chemical ingredients to make this stuff yourself from
http://phtoteclab.com
You can also buy 'Keiki Paste" AND 'Lanolin Paste' from them. Catalog
numbers 'K 424' and 'L 451'. In both listings their catalog does not
provide a formula so there is no quick way to know the difference. I guess
you could ask them. Their customer support email is on the website.
"Philipp Christ" <phic...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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Al
below suggests. That was a pre-coffee writing and editing mistake. Not
that my post-coffee skills are less prone to such editorial lunacy...
Corrected, the quote reads:
"Sphagnum has also been used to produce plantlets from cut flower-stalk
sections by a semiasceptic method."
Al
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Al
(for what it's worth, I am not talking to myself, I am being corrected in
private emails by a legion of, apparently, confirmed rgo lurkers. Well,
maybe legion is too big a number. Call them a cohort of lurkers, in it's
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Dewitt
wrote:
>"Mircopropagation of Orchids" does not say anything about Spam as the quote
>below suggests. That was a pre-coffee writing and editing mistake. Not
>that my post-coffee skills are less prone to such editorial lunacy...
Damn! What am I going to do with this can of Spam now?
deg
Al
Orchids doesn't mention it doesn't mean it won't cause keikis to grow as
well as anything else you could make or buy.
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Alynne
Bill-in-FL
expensive. like $30 for 5 grams, but 5 grams will make a lot of keiki paste.
Bill
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Ray @ First Rays Orchids
I believe - is why Jim B went with lanolin.
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"Bill-in-FL" <NOSPAMwk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Rob Halgren
suggest that the use of BAP and other cytokinins to initiate keiki formation can
lead to increased mutation and/or crippling in the keikis. So your 'clone' may
be screwed up. Like Dolly the sheep. Unpublished observations are worth the
paper they are printed on, so don't get too excited. Anyway, I would suggest
using the absolute minimum effective concentration of BAP in your paste, rather
than "more is better".
Rob
Bill-in-FL wrote:
> I checked into the ingredient cost and "Benzylaminopurine" is very
> expensive. like $30 for 5 grams, but 5 grams will make a lot of keiki paste.
>
> Bill
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Lanolin comes from the sebum of sheep. The greasy sebum is extracted from
wool, cleaned and refined to give anhydrous lanolin (wool fat). eeewww.
Spread that on your face. :-/
I spent some time looking for the reference I seem to remember seeing in
Micropropagation of Orchids that mentions petroleum's possible role as an
active ingredient in causing the nodal buds in stem props to develop. I
could not find it.
Products like UltraFine and Volck Oil that are used as non-toxic
environmentally friendly sprays to smother insects are a type of Paraffin
oil, which a product of petroleum and some insecticides use a petroleum oil
in their ingredients. I know the liquid Orthene does. UltraFine makes a
big deal out of using a "horticulture grade paraffin" that will not damage
plant tissue. I know one type of phytotoxic response that the petroleum in
these products may cause to plants is due to the plant tissue's reaction to
sunlight heating the oil and cooking the plant tissue...which is one reason
why some labels suggest that the applicator avoid using the products on
plants in direct sunlight or during periods of high leaf temperatures.
You can also make a gel using 1 to 2 % Agar and some BAP at less than 50 ppm
in order to avoid the use of all oils and fats.
When I look at the recipe below, it occurs to me that you could probably mix
the BAP in face cream and it would accomplish the same task.
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Wendy
dark" orchid used his formula with the keiki paste, on a nice Phal say, you
would end up with.................
A glowy wooly phally !! * g * Sorry couldn't help myself.
Stephen where are YOU????
Cheers Wendy
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> On Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 2:01:54 AM UTC+8, Bill-in-FL wrote:
>> Where can I buy keiki paste?
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1. Coconut water or coconut milk - This provides nutrients and growth factors for the plant.
2. Agar or gelatin - These substances help to solidify the paste and provide a stable surface for the plant to grow on.
3. Sucrose or other sugars - These provide energy for the plant to grow.
4. Vitamins and minerals - These are added to provide essential nutrients for the plant.
5. Antibiotics or fungicides - These may be added to prevent the growth of bacteria or fungi that could harm the plant.
Overall, keiki paste is designed to provide a nutrient-rich environment for orchids to grow and develop new shoots or keikis.
You may be able to find suppliers for keiki paste by searching online or in local gardening or plant stores. Some well-known brands of keiki paste include K-Lite, KeikiGrow Plus, and Kiki Pro. You could also try searching for suppliers of orchid supplies, as they may carry keiki paste as well. Hope this helps!
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