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mkg...@earthlink.net

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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Hi All, I stumbled upon a few hundred orchids at a local school. They are
from the Raymond Burr Collection. Does anyone have any references for this
collection?

I would also like to know if anyone may know any information about:
RBXH LC. San Francisco x C. Horace
color? background? The date is circa 1994.
Thanks in advance,
Kelly

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IrisCohen

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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>They are >from the Raymond Burr Collection. Does anyone have any references
for this >collection?

Not sure what you mean by references. The late actor Raymond Burr, who played
Perry Mason, had a large orchid collection. At one time he owned a commercial
orchid nursery and did some breeding. I don't remember any details, but when he
died, I believe a lot of his orchids were given to a botanical garden or
university. Some of them could easily have found their way to a school.

Iris, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings, 1818-1885.

KAWACYM

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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Hi Kelly,

For information about the Raymond Burr Collection, you might try writing or
calling Frank Fordyce at:

Fordyce Orchids
1330 Isabel Ave.
Livermore, Ca. 94550
Tel: (510) 447-7171
Fax: (510) 828-3211

I believe Mr. Fordyce was the person responsible for the sale of plants from
the collection and is the person with the most knowledge regarding it. Some
of the more unique and valubable orchids were retained by the college (I
believe it is in Santa Rosa, Ca.) that the collection was donated to by R.
Burr.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Jim Kawasaki (kaw...@aol.com)

Paul Mitchell (OTH)

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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If you want more information you could contact Frank Fordyce, a hybridizer
of miniture cattleyas who recieved a goodly portion of the collection to
help liquidate.

The nursery, Sea God Nurseries, was Burr's and maintained many older
cultivars of cattleya alliance hybrids like Schombocattleyas, and many of
the things W. G. G. Moir bred in Hawaii. These things had long since
fallen out of the trade and so it was sad to see this collection spread to
the winds so these plants were no longer available.

One would hope that some (ideally many) of the recipients of these special
plants will caare for them well and make divisions available for sale or
trade so that such a wonderful legacy of plants will not be completely
lost to cultivation. Alas, many who bought them will not realize there
significance. This is especially true of those plants that were in the
stud collection!

Regards,

Paul

Wm. Paul Mitchell --- <pmit...@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
University of South Florida "Time wounds all heels." -Frank Case
Bayboro Campus ("Tales of a Wayward Inn")
St. Petersburg <Eventually I plan to procrastinate.>
Florida Agricultural Zone 10

On Sat, 12 Dec 1998 mkg...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Hi All, I stumbled upon a few hundred orchids at a local school. They are


> from the Raymond Burr Collection. Does anyone have any references for this
> collection?
>

Catherine

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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>

Is there anyplace (a book, video, website) where a person can see pictures of
some of the plants from this collection? I've heard almost mythic descriptions
for years, and I'd love to be able to look at them. It will be very sad indeed
if they are 'blown to the four winds'!

regards,
Catherine.


SwiftSon

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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Most of the plants were cattleyas that Raymond Burr had bred himself. I hate
to say it but, they were rather, ahem, ugly. OK, they weren't that bad, but I
doubt that he knew what he was doing and just went crazy making crosses with
anything in bloom without any regard to what might come out of it. Trust me,
you do not want to see pictures of those plants and, no, I don't know where you
would find pictures of them.


Matt Swift - residence - Ventura, CA
employment - Santa Barbara Orchid Estate, CA

mkg...@earthlink.net

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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In article <19981215204522...@ng-fs1.aol.com>,
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In case you are not inclined to follow Mr. Swift's advice I have found a few
pictures:

http://www.csupomona.edu/~agri/nursery/BURR.HTML

Enjoy!

Catherine

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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> In case you are not inclined to follow Mr. Swift's advice I have found a few
> pictures:
>
> http://www.csupomona.edu/~agri/nursery/BURR.HTML
>
> Enjoy!
> Kelly

Thanks, Kelly!
If I'm ever in Pomona, maybe I'll see if I can stop by their greenhouses . . . .

Catherine.

TWCoral

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Dec 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/17/98
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I called the nursery and was told they sell orchids but none from the
collection. From the web page it indicates they do sell a "few" from the
collection, but apparently this is not the case. I am going to try again today
to see if I can get a different warm body to tell me they can sell some from
his collection. Maybe we need to call Helen Strong!

mkg...@earthlink.net

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Dec 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/17/98
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In article <19981217062450...@ng135.aol.com>,

Hi, I have purchased 4 of the plants. The Tags are from Sea God Nursery.
They are coded as RBX. There are many students working at the nursery. The
ones I encountered did not know too much about orchids. Most of them were not
very helpful either. I recommend visiting the greenhouses in person when you
are in the area (if feasible). They do not seem like they would do mail
order. They take cash and checks, they do not even ask for ID. As for not
selling the collection, that is only partly true. They have some beautiful
plants that are locked away from the public. These are probably the 'prize
ones'. They are used for the purposes of the students only. I was lucky
enough to run into a student/faculty member and they let me in for a look.

Good Luck!

Mary C.W. Rushen

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Dec 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/18/98
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For anyone interested in items from the collection, I recommend calling
Frank Fordyce. Not only is he knowledgeable on the history of Mr.. Burr's
collection, but he has a few remaining plants. Cattleya Alliance was Mr.
Burr's specialty, as I understand it. As always, Fordyce orchids is
reasonable and reasonably priced. If you call, please tell him I (Mary
Rushen) recommended it. I get NOTHING from this but a little satisfaction:)
Be aware that the new Fordyce Orchids number is (925) 447-1659. I just got
the Pot. Tiger Eye 'Pansy Rock' from the collection.

Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!
--
Mary
(mar...@fls.infi.net)
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KAWACYM

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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Hi all,

In addition to the weblink to the SCU Pomona site, you might care to browse
the following:

http://www.thecorner.com/orchid/index1.html
http://www.fijifvb.gov.fj/tours/ssorchid.htm

Both these sites have references or information about the Raymond Burr
collection in the South Seas (Fiji Islands) where Mr. Burr had a home.

Happy hunting.

Jim Kawasaki (kaw...@aol.com)

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