Brassavola nodosa
XxTWSxx
sib
and I put it in full sun, fed like crazy with bloom booster, and nothing. I
have had it for about 3 years now. No flowers. Should I toss it?
profpam
I am going to assume that you have the plant either outside or indoors
on a window sill. Well, unfortunately, prior to placing mine in the
greenhouse, it never did bloom (and I'm referring to two different
types). This tells me that the plant needs the controlled environment
of a greenhouse and full sun may be too much for it to handle.
. . . Pam
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Mick Fournier
it. Plants that CAN flower will flower when they feel the icy grip of death
setting in. It's their last gasp for immortality. It's an old Vanda trick.
If it does not bloom after that... then toss it and buy another one if you
want to experience the great fragrance.
Standard:
http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/bnodosa.jpg
Grandiflora 'Misty':
http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/bnodosagranmisty.jpg
Mick
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XxTWSxx
7am til 1pm, then bright light after that. The leaves do show signs of a
reddish pigment, so I think that it is getting enough light.Who knows, maybe
someday it will surprise me with an abundance of flowers. I like the plant,
and hate to part with it. So I guess I can just grow it for a challenge.!!
Mick Fournier
Yes, the B cuculatta is very nice also for fragrance... it is a tough call
on all these Brassavolas actually. The whole genus is great for fragrance.
I think if I had to choose the top two though it would be B glauca and B
digbyana. The spidery cuculatta is delightfully fragrant but it does not
"catch" (or grab) my eye with its beauty like a glauca or a digbyana.
http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/bglauca2.jpg
http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/digbyana2.jpg
In B nodosa plants I have 3 different batches in my greenhouse that each
smell different on the same night. The standard flower in my post before
this one is a wiry plant that always looks malnourished but produces a great
fragrance tending toward licorice. The grandiflora has what I will call the
"common" nodosa fragrance... and then I have one plant that does not produce
much of any fragrance (going on 4 years) but looks very nice and flowers
profusely. It's strange. But, I guess that's the whole point of orchid
breeding... to combine these best traits from several clones into one plant.
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> >If it does not bloom after that... then toss it and buy another one if
you
> >want to experience the great fragrance.
>
> I bloomed a B nodosa for the first time this year. I realize this is
total
> heresy...but I didn't find the fragrance all that great. A real let down
for me
> with all this "Lady Of The Night' stuff! On the other hand I did like
the
> smell of my B. cucullata.
>
> Howard
> HMS...@aol.com
HMSDOC
Susan F. Erickson
Now! How do I trick digbyana into blooming?
I have a nice size clump. I would like to see bloom
regularly.
I can not remember when it last bloomed.
Greenhouse, day/night shifts, full Colorado Sun (SW corner),
red tone to leaves, new growths, Things are growing and
blooming so well, I am blooming a back-bulb Cat I got last
September.
Do I need to dry it - a-la dendrobium nobile?
Do I need to chill it - a-la cymbidiums?
Any Ideas?? Help please.
Sue E
Mick Fournier wrote:
>
> Howard,
>
> Yes, the B cuculatta is very nice also for fragrance... it is a tough call
> on all these Brassavolas actually. The whole genus is great for fragrance.
> I think if I had to choose the top two though it would be B glauca and B
> digbyana. The spidery cuculatta is delightfully fragrant but it does not
> "catch" (or grab) my eye with its beauty like a glauca or a digbyana.
>
> http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/bglauca2.jpg
> http://www.gate.net/~fourmick/flasks/digbyana2.jpg
>
> In B nodosa plants I have 3 different batches in my greenhouse that each
> smell different on the same night. The standard flower in my post before
> this one is a wiry plant that always looks malnourished but produces a great
> fragrance tending toward licorice. The grandiflora has what I will call the
> "common" nodosa fragrance... and then I have one plant that does not produce
> much of any fragrance (going on 4 years) but looks very nice and flowers
> profusely. It's strange. But, I guess that's the whole point of orchid
> breeding... to combine these best traits from several clones into one plant.
>
> Mick
> www.OrchidFlask.com
>
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>
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Prem Subrahmanyam
You might try giving it even more light...here in Florida, most
of us grow B. nodosa out with the Vandas under a light shade tree,
preferably on the south side of the tree. In the morning and
afternoon it gets full sunlight yet is shaded during the hottest
time of the day. I have two nodosa...'Mas Mejor' x 'Remar' and
'Mas Mejor' AM/AOS. The MMxR is now showing a few spikes (first
for the year), while the MM has done something really odd...out of
just about every sheath it has put up a new, small growth, replete
with p-bulb and leaf (and in one case its own sheath!)...no roots
out of these "demi-keikis" yet. I do believe I am seeing a few
genuine spikes in a few sheaths, but it will take another week or
two to know for sure.
I have sometimes found that the cooler fall nights here in north
Florida (temps into the 50's) seem to help stimulate spikes as well.
It might be worth a try.
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Prem Subrahmanyam
Heh...join the club, at least with my wife. I find the fragrance of
our nodosas to be pleasant, but she finds them positively revolting...
it actually gives her nausea and an almost instant sinus headache...which
is very disconcerting, considering the fact that ours are just starting
to spike (outdoors) and will need to be brought in soon.
My 'Mas Mejor' x 'Remar' smells pleasant once it gets going fully, but
if you smell it when the fragrance is just starting up, it smells almost
like burnt wood or perhaps barbeque sauce. My 'Mas Mejor' AM/AOS (which
is a grandiflora-type) has, in my opinion, a more pleasant fragrance...
smelling very slightly citrusy.
Smell of a nodosa should be best appreciated a few feet away from
the flowers in a room where the air is still (or better yet, outdoors
on a humid night). Let the smell waft by and gradually fill the room.
Try walking out of the room for a moment (to reset your smell receptors)
and walk back in, not getting too close to the flowers.
If you want a flower that has a good night fragrance that can be appreciated
close-up to the flower, try Epi. conopseum.
Ken Woodward
more apt. I have an epidendrum radiatum in bloom now that smells like
cherry Kool-Aid and a Brassia Santa River that smells like a citrus bathroom
deodorizer. The only Brassavola I've managed to bloom so far is the
cucullata and that has a fragrance reminiscent of the night blooming cereus,
but not that strong. That is a real fragrance.
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Al
again). I had never bloomed a stanhopea or been near one, but to me this
flower smelled STRONGLY of grape Kool-Aid, honey and something toxic like
maybe Malathion. I walked into the gh the morning it opened and couldn't
believe the odor. It was somewhat overpowering and I was almost happy to
learn the next day that these flowers are very short lived...
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scent was wonderful.
And Ken, what's the objective difference between a fragrance an odor, and a
scent?
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The scent of a woman.
The fragrance of an orchid.
The odor of the cat liter box.
Mick
HMSDOC
>cherry Kool-Aid
I have an Encyclia radiata (? same thing as Epi. radiata)...to me it smells
more like spices used for cooking...I tell my kids it smells like paprika to me
(of course it is now and forever known as the Paprika Plant).
Howard
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HMSDOC
>learn the next day that these flowers are very short lived...
>
Hmm.....something tells me it might show up for sale fairly soon : > )
Howard
HMSDOC
Ken Woodward
pleasing smell, while scent is more objective and can describe any from
perfume to skunk. I would not recommend going to the fragrance bar at the
local department store and buying an odor for your wife's birthday.
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> I recently acquired and bloomed a Lycaste aromatica, and the strong
cinnamon
> scent was wonderful.
>
> And Ken, what's the objective difference between a fragrance an odor, and
a
> scent?
>
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>
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> > I had a Stanhopea reichenbachiana bloom earlier in the year (it is in
> spike
> > again). I had never bloomed a stanhopea or been near one, but to me
this
> > flower smelled STRONGLY of grape Kool-Aid, honey and something toxic
like
> > maybe Malathion. I walked into the gh the morning it opened and
couldn't
to
> > learn the next day that these flowers are very short lived...
> >
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sound of things, I should just give up! It's ugly to begin with (only
two of the many 'leaves' stand up straight, the others stiffly lie
straight out across the pot (taking up more room than I can afford,
really), and doesn't seem to be doing anything more than growing
roots. Does anyone know what it takes to get this one to bloom, and is
it fragrant, or odiferous?
Jean
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Matthew Swift
Here we go with another fragrance thread
The most bizarre fragrance from an orchid I've ever experienced is
Dendrobium primulinum. It smells like mangos. Or was it papayas? I can
never get those two straight.
To me, Lycaste aromatica smells exactly like Red Hots candy.
Some green cattleya hybrids smell like Fruit Loops cereal.
Nothing beats a Maxillaria tenuifolia and its strong coconut scent.
I also love Miltonia spectablilis v. moreliana that smells like licorice.
Matt
Matthew Swift
This seems to be the best advice I've seen. You didn't mention what it was
growing in but they seem to bloom better if mounted or grown in large bark
and a well draining pot. They really don't need a lot of light to bloom.
When I worked at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate, we had a large clump in the
phalaenopsis house and it was always in bloom. So my advice is, keep it dry
and withhold any fertilizer.
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> Leave it alone... no water... no fertilizer... no TV. Scare the crap out
of
> it. Plants that CAN flower will flower when they feel the icy grip of
death
> setting in. It's their last gasp for immortality. It's an old Vanda
trick.
>
> If it does not bloom after that... then toss it and buy another one if you
> want to experience the great fragrance.
profpam
I have a Brassavola as well as other orchids blooming this month, but
the Brassavola does not top the Aerides Mitrata in as far as scenting
the entire greenhouse. The following are some of the pictures of
September bloomers: http://www.pe.net/~profpam/orchid3.html.
. . . Pam
First Rays Orchids
and spongerock. Damn thing dries out like you wouldn't believe, and I was
sure I was losing it.
Hung it up next to vandas, switched it to feeding at every watering, and
it's now well on its way to becoming a 2 foot diameter spike ball.
It bloomed earlier this summer with 14 inflorescences, and it seems to be
branching again. One of the growths was bifoliate....never seen that
before.
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mother of all times. Fordyce always gets a laugh when he says 'if you
can't grow this then you can't grow dirt'. Mine are either on bark or in
baskets. Roots growing all over everything like brains. I water then
weekly. Feed better now that I have my 'garbage pail feeder' system.
K Barrett
Mick Fournier
Farther down in this thread a few people mention that Brassavola do better
in baskets or mounted on plaques having a good amount of bark as opposed to
growing these orchids in clay/plastic pots. I agree on this method 100%. I
have my Brassavola hung in the most sunny portion of the greenhouse and the
glauca/digbyanas always get the red leaf effect. I am not one to force
bloom any of my plants but I have noticed that if I pull a red leaf
brassavola down into the shady Phal area for a month or so it will force a
blooming. This happened recently on some nodosa plants when I moved my
operation from an old location and had not taken care to put the nodosa back
up high in the greenhouse. Plants fearing their own destruction may send
out the signals for the plants to bloom. The nodosa may have thought they
fell out of the high jungle canopy onto the rain forest floor to soon be
eaten by a wild cow/pig as would be the normal fate these plants had
suffered for thousands of years in the wilds... or Nebraska. Michael
Coronado (RF Orchids) in a Naples Florida lecture had spoken once of such
life threatening tricks to force a bloom and I do believe these drastic
tricks work. If I really needed a flower for breeding purposes I would even
give the "plastic bag of ice laid on the plant at 9 PM trick" a try for 2 or
3 nights in a row.
Mick
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I just repotted the plant this year (99). It was not doing
as well as expected on the tree fern basket it was in.
I think I will try the Phal shade trick. If not this year
- vanda basket next year.
Susan E.
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jungle canopy in Nebraska for *thousands* of years??? What a
revelation. Last time I was in Nebraska, the jungle canopy resembled
ordinary corn fields and hay stacks....
Karen
The nodosa may have thought they fell out of the high jungle canopy onto
the rain forest floor to soon be eaten by a wild cow/pig as would be the
normal fate these plants had suffered for thousands of years in the
wilds... or Nebraska.
> Mick
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Before you buy.
Dan and Marla Nikirk
Mine grows on a mount in filtered light. gets
sprayed every morning ... fed... hmmm
when I think about it about once a week or so
and blooms on each new growth. Still no scent
to speak of!
Marla
j_d_wulf
Have you checked for a scent an hour or so after your nodosa has
been in complete darkness? The natural pollenator for these little gems is a
moth, so the atractor (scent) isn't released until after dark. Mine smell
wonderful if I can stay awake long enough to admire the scent.
Jack
Photosynthesis is the beat we all breathe too
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