Liquid Sevin vs.Sevin powder?
LG1111
a number on them. I've used the Sevin dust in previous years. Can I
accomplish the same thing with the liquid?
Thanks,
LG
Matthew Shugart
(LG1111) wrote:
Try Neem oil instead. Organic and very effective. Why put toxins like
Sevin all over your home garden?
T Jaszewski
Yes Sevin liquid is just as poisomous...you will undoubtedly manage
to poison something/someone of value.
Sevin was developed for poor gardeners...
af
synthetic doesn't always mean toxic. Sevin is less toxic to animals than both
nicotine and rotenone. Malathion's LD50 is better than most organics, including
ryania and pyrethrins. Lime sulfur and copper sulfate, both organics are extremely
toxic. Ryania is considered to be low in toxicity to most mammals because of the
large doses required. For everything except dogs and man, that is, where it would
be about the same as Diazanon.
Matthew does have a point, however. It is a good idea to start with the least
toxic substance and work up from there until you find something that controls the
pest with an amount of damage you can live with. I hose off a lot of plants. This
works for some pests, such as aphids and mites. If that doesn't work, then I try
something a little stronger until the plant can handle the pest without too much
stress. Some pests are better handled with "organics". The advantage of these are
that they generally break down quicker, affecting the targeted pest while leaving
the beneficials behind. This is also their weakpoint, when it comes to spraying
fruit. I would much rather that my neighbor, who tends to go overboard on
everything (if two teaspoons per gallon is good, four must be better) use
malathion once every other week, than spray rotenone every three days.
You didn't meniton the pest that you are trying to control, so there's no
possibility of trying to find something that might be less toxic than what you're
using. Any contact poison (organic included) can upset the balance of good
bugs/bad bugs. Be careful with sevin. It does a number on bees. Try to use it on
plants before they flower or after petal drop, in the morning or late afternoon.
FarmerDill
movement is quite toxic and has long residual effects. To the original poster,
liquid Sevin works better than the dust as it is easier to keep where you need
it. Sevin biodegrades very rapidly when wet. The powder can hang around until
it gets wet making it much mor hazrdous to bees. I assume flea beetles are your
problem on eggplant?
Ian Gay
>Despite other comments, being organic doesn't mean it's safe. On the
other hand,
>synthetic doesn't always mean toxic. Sevin is less toxic to animals
than both
>nicotine and rotenone. Malathion's LD50 is better than most organics,
including
>ryania and pyrethrins. Lime sulfur and copper sulfate, both organics
are extremely
>toxic. Ryania is considered to be low in toxicity to most mammals
because of the
>large doses required. For everything except dogs and man, that is,
where it would
>be about the same as Diazanon.
[snip]
In what sense is CuSO4 "organic" ?
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Michael Courtney
getting a lecture.
You can accomplish the same thing with the liquid. Follow the label
instructions carefully and your application will be safe and effective.
Michael Courtney
LG1111 wrote in message <20010508173429...@ng-df1.aol.com>...
ChromeDome
>
> It's a shame that you can never post a simple question on pesticides without
> getting a lecture.
>
You took the words right out of my mouth :-).
Would all the fanatics, both pro and con, either answer the question
that's asked or keep your fingers off the keyboard. Please!
Gene
--
Homo Sapiens is a goal, not a description.
T Jaszewski
<mc...@cisco.com> wrote:
>It's a shame that you can never post a simple question on pesticides without
>getting a lecture.
What's truly a shame is a newsgroup titled "edible" with posters
considering poisons to be "safe"...safe until additional research is
done....look around folks...todays safe pesticide is tomorrow
restricted use....
T Jaszewski
>Michael Courtney wrote:
>>
>> It's a shame that you can never post a simple question on pesticides without
>> getting a lecture.
>>
>
>You took the words right out of my mouth :-).
>
>Would all the fanatics, both pro and con, either answer the question
>that's asked or keep your fingers off the keyboard. Please!
>
>Gene
Sevin
ECOTOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION: This material is toxic to aquatic and
estuarine invertebrates. Do not apply directly to water. Do not
contaminate water by cleaning of equipment or disposal of wastes. This
product is highly toxic to bees exposed to direct treatment or
residues on plants.
Judith Moore
(self included some years ago) are unaware of the risk/benefit features of
*some* commercial garden products. 'Sevin' is effective in killing bugs,
including bees, butterflies, and anything else that comes along. This is,
presumably, a forum in which people pass along their experienced information,
as well as their prejudices. I, too, would be inclined to leap in and say
"Sevin is really overkill(!) If your pest is Colorado Potato Beetles (my
experience), you can control them by squishing beetles and scraping off egg
masses from the underside of leaves."
Cecelia
ladybug house and a bat house. I put them up and have only had trouble with
cantaloupes and one variety of beans. I planted 4 kinds of beans and only 1
ended up with "lace" leaves so I am not going to plant those this year.
Also, I bought worms, dropped them after tilling (on a cool evening) and
haven't added fertilizer in 2 years. You can buy ladybugs if you don't have
any come around and you can contact a Veterinarian about getting some bats.
Mine gets bats when people find them in their attics, swat them with a broom
then feel guilty. You could check with a local Vet and see if they could
put you on a list.
Cecelia
P.S. I fully expect that I will be told bats can carry rabies or some other
reason this won't work, but I have tried these and they work for me. Your
results may vary. Have a nice day!
Michelle Carlson
mosquitos. They haven't moved into his attic either. I'm going to get a house
made as soon as I can for my own house.
I've heard that if you make a little "paint" of bat guano and water and brush it
on a new bat house, it will attract bats. Now, where to find guano?!
Q
<carl...@pilot.msu.edu> wrote:
>I've heard that if you make a little "paint" of bat guano and water and brush it
>on a new bat house, it will attract bats. Now, where to find guano?!
That's easy!!! Just stop by your local "Guano-R-Us" store ;-)
Q
Dave Green
>I've heard that if you make a little "paint" of bat guano and water and brush
>it
>on a new bat house, it will attract bats. Now, where to find guano?!
You'll probably find a six inch layer in most church belfries. Wear a dust
mask while collecting it.
Polli...@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA
The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com
Disclaimer: Opinions aren't facts; learn the art of discrimination. Opinions
presented for your use and amusement; use at your own risk.
KRW
starting with hand control and moving up from there. If, however, there is
a serious challenge to my garden, I am not opposed to using a little
malathion or sevin to save the crop. That BT crap is overrated and doesn't
do anything for the tough caterpillars we have in Florida.
So far, this season has been pretty kind and I have only had a small attack
of aphids, which finally decided to go elsewhere after repeated attacks with
a garden hose, and a few worms in some tomatoes confined to one or two
plants that managed to avoid my thumb and finger move - squish!
K
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Michelle Carlson
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Terry Coombs
you want to control there are many alternatives to using petrochemical
pesticides . Sevin is extremely toxic to bees and many other pollinators ..
--
Snag the Beekeeper
Frank
liquid which I think is 50%. You could easily calculate which is
cheapest based on concentration.
