My next article is about game gear version of Castle
of Illusion which is truly excellent!
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>I paid $149 for the unit and $34 for a cartridge.
Take a Lynx... Add a larger screen with the same crappy, passive technology...
Now cripple the sound and remove all the powerful hardware graphics support,
YOU OWN A GAME GEAR!!!
>Graphics are also very good; it's *much* better than the Master System's
>thanks to its ability to display 32 colors out of 4096 pallete.
Give me a break. IT IS A MASTER SYSTEM, no matter what sega says. (Okay, it's
a Master System with a crap LCD monitor and more colors.)
>Sound, although it is in stereo, isn't too impressive;
Thank you for being objective. :-/
>I found it to be about the same quality as that of Game Boy.
>The games available so far are Super Monaco GP, Castle of Illusion starring
>Mickey Mouse, and G-LOC.
The Japanes games are the same, (a plus: and one of the few), and there may be
one or two more than you mentioned. If there is a plus to this system, it is
that Sega will probably pump the games out the way Atari should have.
> /| /|| |/\ Han J. Lee
I hate to sound too critical, but this thing is the SAME price as a Lynx, and
at times it even cost MORE!
I was never a big fan of Blue Lightning and I returned it for G.o.Z, but if you
really want to compare these two units, just compare B.L. and G-LOC, it is both
histerical, and sad that Sega would pass up the possibility of a portable
Genesis.
The screen constantly appears out of focus.... severely out of focus!
About the only good things I can say about this thing is that it is color and
most of the games I have playes so far support two player linking.
If you are a slave to what ever Sega shoves at you as much as Han is, no
offense intended, at least play it and a Lynx for a while before you get
one.
note: I did not mention the TurboExpress above, because it is simply in
a different league in both price, performance, and playability.
Certainly not ment for you kids to take onto the school bus. :-)
David
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"All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars.
All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars!" - RUSH
David wat...@cis.ohio-state.edu "It's 12:35... and Michigan STILL sucks."
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Now, now. He's entitled to an opinion. I certainly don't agree with it,
myself...
>Take a Lynx... Add a larger screen with the same crappy, passive technology...
>Now cripple the sound and remove all the powerful hardware graphics support,
>
> YOU OWN A GAME GEAR!!!
Ahem. That should be "REDUCE the screen". The GG is only 3.25" (diagonal),
the Lynx is 3.5" (diagonal).
("Same crappy, passive technology"? Find me a TurboExpress that does
real-time scaling and 8-player simultaneous gameplay first...)
>Give me a break. IT IS A MASTER SYSTEM, no matter what sega says. (Okay, it's
>a Master System with a crap LCD monitor and more colors.)
And incompatability with MS games. If it had this feature, I'd be a bit
more impressed.
>I was never a big fan of Blue Lightning ...
>really want to compare these two units, just compare B.L. and G-LOC, it is
>both histerical, and sad that Sega would pass up the possibility of a portable
>Genesis.
No fair. G-LOC sucks Large Boulders Through a Green Garden Hose. Compare
ROADBLASTERS vs. SUPER MONACO GP on the Game Gear. The GG still loses (IMO),
but at least it's a closer comparison.
>If you are a slave to what ever Sega shoves at you as much as Han is, no
>offense intended, at least play it and a Lynx for a while before you get
>one.
At $99 for a base Lynx unit, you'd be a fool not to.
>note: I did not mention the TurboExpress above, because it is simply in
> a different league in both price, performance, and playability.
> Certainly not ment for you kids to take onto the school bus. :-)
Price, yes. Everything else is subjective.
--R.J.
B-)
P.S. GAMEPRO magazine promises an upcoming Lynx vs. Game Gear comparison.
Should be interesting.
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"If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway."
I have never, nor will I ever tell someone not to express their opinion.
> Ahem. That should be "REDUCE the screen". The GG is only 3.25" (diagonal),
>the Lynx is 3.5" (diagonal).
Sorry. It does seem taller than the Lynx though. Less of that tunnel
vision effect.
> ("Same crappy, passive technology"? Find me a TurboExpress that does
>real-time scaling and 8-player simultaneous gameplay first...)
"passive technology" as in non-Active LCD matrix.
I assume this is what puts the Express' screen in a different league.
Real-Time, that is being very generous. In GauntletIII you can see the order
in which the screen processes the bitmap, as it painfully zooms in on the
skeleton. Cetainly a nice feature to have though.
> No fair. G-LOC sucks Large Boulders Through a Green Garden Hose. Compare
>ROADBLASTERS vs. SUPER MONACO GP on the Game Gear. The GG still loses (IMO),
>but at least it's a closer comparison.
SuperMonaco sucks them rocks too. :-)
At least one person felt my article was a bit strong, and was a personal
attack on Han. This was certainly not the case, and just to be
fair...
Castle of Illusion for the GameGear is a really good game. Quite a lot of
fun. Too bad the strain to try and focus the screen with your eyes, and the
lack of ANY contrast of color on that screen detracts from it.
David
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The Lynx screen is 160 pixels wide by 102 pixels tall. The GG is about 160
pixels wide by 150 pixels tall, so its shape is closer to square than the
Lynx. Physically, the GG's screen is a good bit smaller than the Lynx's.
>> ("Same crappy, passive technology"? Find me a TurboExpress that does
>>real-time scaling and 8-player simultaneous gameplay first...)
>
>"passive technology" as in non-Active LCD matrix.
>I assume this is what puts the Express' screen in a different league.
>Real-Time, that is being very generous. In GauntletIII you can see the order
>in which the screen processes the bitmap, as it painfully zooms in on the
>skeleton. Cetainly a nice feature to have though.
As far as I know, all of the color portables use essentially the same LCD
technology. Of course, they have different chips _driving_ the display,
but they're all passive color LCD as far as I know. Active matrix LCD's
are far too expensive (right now) to use in a "game machine".
- Laird Popkin
Well, as far as I know, the TE uses an acitve matrix screen. It sounds all too
plausible considering that a PC-Engine Core Grafx (basically a TG-16) is
about $100 in Japan. So you just rearrange the shape (the CG is REAL small
especially compared to the TG-16) and add in an active matrix display.
$250 sounds good to me.
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"... Particle man Game Boy
Is he a dot, or is he a speck? Lynx
Actually, make that seven people, not including myself.
:-)
>David
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>"All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars.
> All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars!" - RUSH
>David wat...@cis.ohio-state.edu "It's 12:35... and Michigan STILL sucks."
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Send anything to :
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/| /|| |/\ Han J. Lee
Han, did you remember to include me? :)
Actually, I like the Game Gear...if it weren't for the higher-than-Lynx price.
(I own a Lynx myself.) Mickey is excellent.
I saw Turbo Expresses at Babbages today. $299.99 each. Also, Toys 'R Us
is carrying the Neo Geo now. They had a good number of games for it too,
about 7 or so.
I am looking for people's opinion of Lynx' Slime World. Please send Email!
I noticed several companies advertising TG-16 to PC Engine HuCard adapters.
Does anyone own one of these things?
Lawrence Chiu
lc...@cory.Berkeley.EDU
PS: This is a friend's account.. Email to above.
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>Actually, I like the Game Gear...if it weren't for the higher-than-Lynx price.
>(I own a Lynx myself.) Mickey is excellent.
>
>I saw Turbo Expresses at Babbages today. $299.99 each. Also, Toys 'R Us
>is carrying the Neo Geo now. They had a good number of games for it too,
>about 7 or so.
>
>I am looking for people's opinion of Lynx' Slime World. Please send Email!
>
>I noticed several companies advertising TG-16 to PC Engine HuCard adapters.
>Does anyone own one of these things?
>
Just to let everybody know, many of the Toronto area sites that
received 'rec' groups from 'lsuc' were cut off the Net for a few
weeks until 'lsuc' got a disk upgrade. As such, we have not been
able to follow the discussion. This message is the first I've
read since the problem started. So what I'm about to say may
be old for you but it's new to me:
This is definitely shaping up as "The Year of the COLOUR Hand-Helds."
Nintendo has been caught with all the wrong products at the wrong
prices and history will show that this 1991 is a year that Nintendo
will want to quickly forget about. I don't think anybody's going
to care how many units the Gameboy sells this year. I a couple of
years not many people are going to remember they have them. "Gameboy?
Oh, yeah, I think I still have one over there in the bottom of that
pile of stuff over there. . . ." I think we'll see Gameboys drop
in price down to around $40.00 US by the beginning of Summer (if
it's not down that low yet). But in the long run it's going to
be hard to convince anyone to write games for it because nobody'll
buy the cartridges anyway. And even then the price for cartridges
will drop to the point where the royalties will be almost non-existent.
"No profit in it" == "No future in it"
By comparison, the colour units have a great future. These
have potential far beyond the TV attached consoles. Sega was right
to develop a whole new cartridge. I have a lot of ideas for the
hand helds, but the most obvious point, that Lynx and Gameboy players
have already found out, is that you can now have fully separate
perspective multi-player games at reasonable costs and reasonable
convenience. The games that I'm looking forward to are ***Football***
war games, hopefully "Herzog Zwei" (if they can get it to run passably
fast -- I don't expect they can match the speed of the Genesis), hockey,
soccer and racing games.
If Atari is *really* smart, they'll start thinking of things
you can do by using the Lynx as a computer peripheral. I won't
say more than that right now, but I have some *very* specific ideas
for things that have not been done yet. I'm considering writing
a proposal to a potential manufacturer. Actually, there's a couple
of things you could do specifically with the Genesis too, but I'm
really going to blow a potential gold mine if I say more. :-)
--
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
lsuc!jimomura
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>>leader of all portable game systems in terms of technological
>>achievement; in particular, its graphics hardware is unmatched.
>
> Says who? How do they know? Show me authority.
There is NO authority in video games.
>arguable. What's not arguable is that the Game Gear has about 40%
>higher resolution than the Lynx (160 * 140 triads) and the Turbo
>Express is, of course th highest (I don't have my figures handy --
>something like 256 * 240?). The resolution is not excessive. I can
>see the individual pixels that make up the triads even on my Game Gear
>which have finer resolution than the Lynx! If I could have *afforded*
>the Turbo Express, I might have bought it. I *can* see things that
>small that clearly.
For me, the resolution on the Game Gear Is too excessive. The problem really
lies in the passive LCD. The Lynx is just fine to me. The Game Gear is just a
tad bit too high of a resolution to get a good clear picture (for my eyes, at
least). The TurboExpress screen is just in another league.
> Ah. I see you've swallowed that BS like all good fanatics.
>Even Atari themselves admit in their own Explorer magazine that they
>are talking about a "divide by 4" clock rate. It's really only
>the equivalent of a 4 MHz standard 6502. It's good enough, but
>not the wildly spectacular performance that you're trying to make
>it sound.
You know what Jim, I have already brought this up BEFORE you. And I have
been told that there are some 6502 series chips going from 10 MHz to 17 MHz.
You know, there ACTUALLY are people from .EDU who know something about video
game systems (I read the stuff in Explorer also).
>2 players at once. Sure, there are games out there already, but
>has anybody played with more than 2 players yet? Did you enjoy the
>experience? I dunno. I'm not convinced it's significant.
I'm not surprised. With that incredible air of arrogance you always have when
you post here on the net, I know I wouldn't want to play WITH you let alone
against you.
Paul "Boy you REALLY know how to carry out a conversation" Chen
>For me, the resolution on the Game Gear Is too excessive. The problem really
>lies in the passive LCD. The Lynx is just fine to me. The Game Gear is just a
>tad bit too high of a resolution to get a good clear picture (for my eyes, at
>least). The TurboExpress screen is just in another league.
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>You know what Jim, I have already brought this up BEFORE you. And I have
>been told that there are some 6502 series chips going from 10 MHz to 17 MHz.
>You know, there ACTUALLY are people from .EDU who know something about video
>game systems (I read the stuff in Explorer also).
I'll let the above speak for itself. :-)
("This SVGA doesn't cut it... I wish I had CGA for a clearer picture!" smirk!)
... I couldn't help it.
>Paul <more gay crap deleted> Chen
Dave
>I'll let the above speak for itself. :-)
>("This SVGA doesn't cut it... I wish I had CGA for a clearer picture!" smirk!)
>... I couldn't help it.
Have you heard, Dave. OTHER people think that the Game Gear screen is kinda
fuzzy, also.
>>Paul <more gay crap deleted> Chen
>
>Dave
Do I hear a personal slight? (actually I do)
Oh boy, here goes:
Jim Omura just insulted the intelligence of everyone here on r.g.v who
currently is attending a university. I thought that such a comment was out of
place and that a reply was in order (albeit, mine was a bit too strong).
Now, as for you, Dave, I know I haven't been very nice to you, but I'd hope
that you'd have some short of fuse or something. I guess not.
Now, if you have some personal problem with what I say, just e-mail me.