NHLPA.93 Scoring.
mcsd...@dct.ac.uk
Having just read this newsgroup for the first time , I hope I am not
repeating anything that has already been said.
On NHLPA 93 for the Genesis I find that a good technique to score a goal is
as follows. I would class it as legitimate, not a cheat.
Distribute the puck about the ice so as to get the defenders spread out then
give the puck to the center, right or left wing.
With a little skill it is usually possible to evade defenders so that you are
positioned straight down from the opponents goal.
Skate forward and when directly in line with the goalie hold forward on the
joypad and press B rather than C. About 50 % of the time the puck will
go zooming through the hapless goalie's legs for a peach of goal. This works
because of the speed of the puck.
Sorry if this has been said before.
By the way what is the cheat way of scoring?
Cheers.
Steve.
Mike Gleason
|Distribute the puck about the ice so as to get the defenders spread out then
|give the puck to the center, right or left wing.
|With a little skill it is usually possible to evade defenders so that you are
|positioned straight down from the opponents goal.
|Skate forward and when directly in line with the goalie hold forward on the
|joypad and press B rather than C. About 50 % of the time the puck will
|go zooming through the hapless goalie's legs for a peach of goal. This works
|because of the speed of the puck.
|By the way what is the cheat way of scoring?
No, but in my opinion it is another cheat way to score because you are
exploiting a bug in the program. You don't even have to be close to the
goalie for this trick to work; all you have to do is have your stick pointed
towards the goal and hit B. Haven't you ever had full rink goals scored like
this? The computer will do this to you occasionally.
The cheat method that is normally referred to is the deke-the-goalie move. To
do it you skate diagonally towards the opposite post for an easy goal. When
I play with cheat goals allowed, on a breakaway I align my self on a post and
head for it. Then right before you hit the crease, dart towards the other post
of the goal, and use a wrist shot.
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Robert ISKANDAR
>|By the way what is the cheat way of scoring?
>No, but in my opinion it is another cheat way to score because you are
>exploiting a bug in the program. You don't even have to be close to the
>goalie for this trick to work; all you have to do is have your stick pointed
>towards the goal and hit B. Haven't you ever had full rink goals scored like
>this? The computer will do this to you occasionally.
>The cheat method that is normally referred to is the deke-the-goalie move. To
>do it you skate diagonally towards the opposite post for an easy goal. When
>I play with cheat goals allowed, on a breakaway I align my self on a post and
>head for it. Then right before you hit the crease, dart towards the other post
>of the goal, and use a wrist shot.
There's another cheat mode for scoring:-
Plug in Controller 2 at the start of a game, then use controller 2
to remove the Computer's goalie ie when in
substituting the goalie mode, set it to none.
Scoring should be a real giveaway now.
Steve Taylor
always successful, perhaps a 20% success rate against the better goalies.
The usual outcome is that the goalie gets the puck wedged between his legs
or the puck deflects off his foot.
Since it is not successful all of the time then I wouldn't class it as a bug.
Moreover I would say that adds realism to the game. I watch a fair bit of
hockey ( we get NHL on satellite in Scotland) and when a player is in a
shooting position they will sometimes attempt to stab the puck in to the net
, rather than go for a slapshot or wrist shot as the goalie can usually
see these coming.
You also state that full rink goals can be scored with this method though
I have yet to achieve this, I believe that it may be possible as I have
scored with a full rink slapshot. Would you class this as a bug?
But enough arguing. How about some RGV readers posting details of the
fluke goals that they have scored? My favourite occured when I was the
Blackhawks versus the New Jersey Devils. Chris Chelios (me) let fly a
a monster slapshot from the bottom of my half of the rink and it smashed
against the crossbar of the New Jersey goal, only to hit the back of the
goalie's head, hit the crossbar and hit the goalie's head *AGAIN* before
spinning in to the back of the net. Unbelievable but true.
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H. Rosendale
The first was definatly a glitch, I was Theo Fluery (Calgary) and I shot
a big slapshot that went over the goal, bounced off the glass, and went
through the back of the net. Kinda unlikely in real hockey.
The second one was scored with Washington vs Pittsburgh.
A friend of mine and I were teammates, he was Kelley Miller and I was
Mike Ridley. He was sitting by the goal cherry-picking so I took a
slapshot from the blue line, hoping for a rebound. Th shot went a bit
wide, smacked Miller in the head and went into the goal, knocking him down.
The worst part of it all is that he got the goal and I only got an assist.
Anyway, the best way to score is to come at the goalie with the puck on your
backhand side and when you get about two player lengths from the goalie,
switch sides with the puck and immediately take a wrist shot. For me
this goes in 90% of the time on breakaways and about 35-50% of the time
when defended( depending on the player)
BTW, the fastest goal I ever got was 3 seconds into a game with Mike Ridley
vs Montreal.
Later,
-Egil
Mike Gleason
| I have to disagree with you on this, Mike. The "hitting B" method is not
| always successful, perhaps a 20% success rate against the better goalies.
| Since it is not successful all of the time then I wouldn't class it as a bug.
| Moreover I would say that adds realism to the game.
By your own argument :-) this is too good to be true. The better goalies
don't allow 20% of shots (and in this case passes aimed at the net) to go in.
Patrick Roy's save percentage is closer to .950 than it is to .800! That
isn't adding any realism to the game...
| You also state that full rink goals can be scored with this method though
| I have yet to achieve this, I believe that it may be possible as I have
| scored with a full rink slapshot. Would you class this as a bug?
Anything scored with the C button would be legal IMHO. You'll know when you
do get one of these goals though. Since they are really passes, they make
no sound like a monster slapshot would, but they are very fast, faster than
the fastest slapshot! And these shots always go straight through the goalie's
legs (at least the full rink ones do).
But since you and I won't be playing a game anytime soon, it doesn't matter
what my view on this is as long as the person you are playing against doesn't
mind.
When I play my brother, I insist that we play "legit" hockey (no easy goalie
deke goals nor B-Button goals) because I think he's gotten better than me at
the cheap goals...
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Pekka Salmia
{ fluke goals that they have scored? My favourite occured when I was the
{ Blackhawks versus the New Jersey Devils. Chris Chelios (me) let fly a
{ a monster slapshot from the bottom of my half of the rink and it smashed
{ against the crossbar of the New Jersey goal, only to hit the back of the
{ goalie's head, hit the crossbar and hit the goalie's head *AGAIN* before
{ spinning in to the back of the net. Unbelievable but true.
I had a strange experience today. I was playing Montreal against
Buffalo and leading 2-0 when Darren Puppa, the Buffalo goalie got hold
of the puck. Puppa passed the puck straight across the ice towards my
goal. Was the Montreal home crowd shocked or what when the puck slid
between Roy's legs and into the net?!? Stranger still, Puppa was
announced to have scored a HAT TRICK!!! He didn't get any goals to his
stats though...
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H. Rosendale
>
>I've never gotten a goal that quick. I play this game all the time. Probably at
>least 3 times a day ever since I bought it a few months ago. The computer
>ceased being any competition for me the day after I bought it, and I was
>wondering what is the most goals they have scored in a single (10 period) game?
>Personally I have scored 29 three times, twice with Chicago (who I usually am),
>and once today with Boston (my second time ever using Boston). My personal high
>for hat tricks is 7 (Roenick, Larmer, Graham, Chelios, Smith, R. Brown and
>Lemiux). I once scored 10 Pts with Roenick in one game (7 goals, 3 assists).
>What are some of everyone elses highs? I really like the realism in this game,
>for example Chicago is far and away the best checking team in this game as they
>should be.
> Brian
As far as the most goals scored in one game,
In a 5 min. period game where I was Calgary playing against St.Louis,
I won 22-1. No lie, Theo Fluery (My favorite player BTW) had 18 of the 22.
Your right in saying that the computer ceases to be a challenge. I took
the Sharks to the Stanley cup, outscoring my opponents 32-3 overall.
BTW, who were you playing when you got the 7 hat tricks (very impressive).
Later,
-Egil
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the goal to the other side and tap in an easy goal(helps to have a dexterous
(agile) player like Yzerman, etc...(the goalie usually gets a) stuck at
the other end of the goal when over to one side cutting the angle of a side
shot or sometimes the program seems to go braindead and try to block that
side when the player with the puck is clearly on the other...cheap goal...
I prefer to play the way it was probably intended shot mainly from forward
of the crease in the attacking zone...has anyone seen/tried Hit the Ice
yet?
(SNES or Turbo version)
Steve Taylor
Chicago are my favoured team choice, as well. My highest record was only
slightly greater - 11 points . No prizes for guessing that Roenick was
the player in question with 9 goals and 2 assists. Mind you, I was always
passing the puck to him. If this had been real hockey , the other players
probably would have complained about a puck-greedy Roenick, but hey NHLPA
is still a great game.
R. M. Dunkle
I tend to take bad teams to make it more of a challenge...
Top scorer: Richer, NJ, 12 goals in one (10 min period)penalties on,
offsides on) game.
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> As far as the most goals scored in one game,
> In a 5 min. period game where I was Calgary playing against St.Louis,
> I won 22-1. No lie, Theo Fluery (My favorite player BTW) had 18 of the 22.
> Your right in saying that the computer ceases to be a challenge. I took
> the Sharks to the Stanley cup, outscoring my opponents 32-3 overall.
Was that with line changes on or off? It seems kinda unreasonable if they
were on, but then again, we are talking about the computer as the opponent.
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R. M. Dunkle
The computer is a considerably better opponent when you take bad
teams, 10-minute periods, and line changes. Line changes make all the
difference. Every team's got at least a *few* good players.
Lance D. Hill
>
> I tend to take bad teams to make it more of a challenge...
> Top scorer: Richer, NJ, 12 goals in one (10 min period)penalties on,
>offsides on) game.
>* Brian A. Dunkle | rdu...@aal.itd.umich.edu
New Jersey is hardly a "bad" team. Put Zelepukin, Richer, Lemieux,
Stevens, and Wienrich on the ice at the same time and you've got a
legitimate shot to win any game. Only the goaltending is suspect.
Top 5 Teams in a Non-Line Change Game
1. Detroit
2. Vancouver
3. Montreal
4. New York
5. New Jersey
6. Chicago
7. Boston
8. Pittsburg
9. Buffalo
10. Winnipeg
What do you think?
Lance Hill l_h...@oz.plymouth.edu
Hasit Mehta
My Top 10 in NON-Line Change are:
1. All Stars West
2. Detroit
3. Chicago |
3. New York |==>Three Way Tie
3. Montreal |
6. All Stars East
7. Vancouver
8. New Jersey
9. Boston
10.St. Louis
All Stars West is DOMINANT when you play without line changes and put in
Roneick, Yzerman, Federov, Housley, and Chelios. There is just unmatched
speed and agility on that line. It is also pretty well balanced with Chelios
and Roneick (sp?) being solid checkers. Detroit is my 2nd favorite team for
no line changes with Carson, Yzerman, Federov, Chiasson, and Lidstrom.
Anyways I remember reading a while back about a bug in the game that screwed
up the stats when playing in the tournament league. Here is what happens to
me I am playing Detroit in a 7 game series and after 2 or 3 games when
Yzerman collects 63 goals it just stops and only his assists continue to be
compiled by the game, is this normal if so it SUCKS!
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First off, I think that you should start to play with line changes.
Secondly, I don't hink any team can touch Vancouver, especially w/o
line changes simply because no other team can field three forwards with
speed 100 (Bure, Ronning, Courtnall) and therefore Vancouver tends to
get breakaways VERY frequently which leads to many MANY goals.
I'd also put Pittsburgh higher without line changes and Buffalo a bit higher
simply because Mogilny NEVER misses it seems. Finally, I think you have
overrated New Jersey (although I haven't used them much) and definitely Boston
because I can never get Neely to do anything although that may be just me.
Anyways, not gonna try a top 10, my top five w/o line changes:
1) Vancouver
2) Detroit
3) Chicago
4) Montreal
5) Pitt or Buffalo
Now that I think about it, my top four is similiar with line changes
although I think I'd put New York at #5. So Top five with line changes:
1) Vancouver
2) Montreal
3) Chicago
4) Detroit
5) New York
-- Derek Van Patter
Lance D. Hill
>First off, I think that you should start to play with line changes.
>Secondly, I don't hink any team can touch Vancouver, especially w/o
>line changes simply because no other team can field three forwards with
>speed 100 (Bure, Ronning, Courtnall) and therefore Vancouver tends to
>get breakaways VERY frequently which leads to many MANY goals.
First off, did I say I don't play with line changes? That wasn't what
my poll was about. Secondly, Detroit can beat Vancouver because of
their greater defense and goaltending. Kirk MacClean (sp) may be
higher rated than Cheveldae (sp) but I don't think it shows during a
game. Also, try using Trevor Linden as your left wing with Vancouver.
He usually scores a few goals a game for me just shooting slap shots
from the blue line.
>
>I'd also put Pittsburgh higher without line changes and Buffalo a bit higher
>simply because Mogilny NEVER misses it seems. Finally, I think you have
>overrated New Jersey (although I haven't used them much) and definitely Boston
>because I can never get Neely to do anything although that may be just me.
With New Jersey it takes a little patience and passing to win
consistently. Zelepukin is fantastic at center and Richer has a cannon
of a shot. With Boston try using Oates at center, Carpenter at left
wing and Juneau at right. Juneau is slow and doesn't have much of a
shot but he can check like hell and is a great passer. Put Bourque at
right defenseman and the best checker in the game, Don Sweeney at left
defensemen. I can't really win with speed with Boston like I can
with Detroit, but if I play good defense I can usually stay competetive.
>
>Anyways, not gonna try a top 10, my top five w/o line changes:
>
>1) Vancouver
>2) Detroit
>3) Chicago
>4) Montreal
>5) Pitt or Buffalo
>
>Now that I think about it, my top four is similiar with line changes
>although I think I'd put New York at #5. So Top five with line changes:
>
>1) Vancouver
>2) Montreal
>3) Chicago
>4) Detroit
>5) New York
>
>-- Derek Van Patter
>
My own top five WITH line-changes would consist of:
1. Montreal
2. New York
3. Detroit
4. Boston
5. Vancouver
Lance Hill
John Jansen
make it interesting? Sure, it's the best game around, but it's way too easy to
score. Why do sports games always lack a balance between offense and defense?
Why do football games always end up with scores in triple digits? Why do
players bat .800 in baseball games? Why do pitchers in baseball games
consistently throw 105 mph fastballs, and curveballs that break 12 feet? Why
do defensive backs in football games get burned so often? Why can't linemen in
football games execute a proper trap block? Why can golfers hit 50 foot putts
four or five times a round in golf games? Why does Bill Laimbeer dunk in
basketball video games?
I hate to sound like an old curmudgeon, but strategy in sports games hasn't
improved much since pong.
-John
back in my day, we had to play combat with the three little planes against the
one big plane... and we liked it!
victor ng
Date Entered: 03-12-93 14:11
Well, I think this goal beats ALL of yours hands down. I was playing
head to head (Edmonton vs Chicago). I took Esa Tikkanen but I was
checked. The puck slid towards the goalie and GOAL!!!!
Vic
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I agree, line changes are the best way to play the game. Personally I usually
use Chicago with or without line changes, I simply think I am better with them
because I am more familiar with them. For example I know never to take a really
hard slap shot with Larmer because he is much to wild. In contrast you can
really rip the puck with Roenick and Sutter because of their accuracy. I am
curious why your rank New York so low. Here are my top 5 with and without line
changes.
Line Changes No Changes
1. New York (they are so deep) 1. Detroit
2. Montreal 2. Vancouver (incredible speed)
3. Chicago (best checking 3. New York
4. Detroit 4. Montreal
5. Washington 5. Chicago
Also, it's true Boston leaves alot to be desired out of their forward spots (I
also have trouble with Neely), they have the best scoring defense in the game.
Borque is tough as nails, #32 (Sweeney I believe) is a 100 speed, and they all
have very good shots. New Jersey is indeed a very good team, they have an
incredibly deep front line, although in my experience they get hurt way too
often. What stat decides injury-proness? Is it just pot luck? If anybody wants
to experiement with Chicago tell me, I know this team inside and out. NHLPA 93
is the best video game I have EVER played (and that includes Nintendo's
Baseball Stars).
Brian
perry_farrell
JDB...@psuvm.psu.edu
First put in the fastest guys on the team, even if they aren't as highly rat
ed. All you do is take one of them and try to get a breakaway. Skate diagonal
ly accross the face of the goal and shoot to the opposite direction you are ska
ting quickly. The goalie moves with the direction your player is moving, which
means he will be skating away from the puck. I have no trouble winning the cup
with Ottawa usually. My best game was 23-0 with 10 minutes periods playing Que
bec vs. the All stars East. (considering how bad quebec is...)
A few other little quirks in the game:
The goalie has a REAL hard time stopping passed shots. If you are near the go
al and don't really have any hope of faking him out, pass the puck at him inste
ad, many times it will go right under him. I've had my goalie score a few time
s this way. The puck just slides straight up the middle of the ice and goes ri
ght in.
Another neat thing to do:
Play a game with line changes on. When your goalie gets the puck hit the A
button to change lines. But instead of picking a line, wiggle the joystick to
try to get the goalie out of the crease. If you get his star totally out of t
he blue area before the whistle blows, then your goalie can start skating aroun
d the ice. He is impossible to control however. But its neat to do, and a gre
at time killer. If penalties are on then you can knock down the other players w
ith the goalie and draw interference calls. Cheesy, but kinda fun! :)
Derek Van Patter
>>>Top 5 Teams in a Non-Line Change Game
>>>1. Detroit
>>>2. Vancouver
>>>3. Montreal
>>>4. New York
>>>5. New Jersey
>>>6. Chicago
>>>7. Boston
>>>8. Pittsburg
>>>9. Buffalo
>>>10. Winnipeg
>>>
>>>What do you think?
>>>
>>>Lance Hill l_h...@oz.plymouth.edu
>>
I think that the reason that I consider New York so low (like 5th is so bad!)
is that you only need two good lines to play in 5 min. periods. The chk.
line gets only one or two shifts a game at the most. Anyways, I admit I
might be biased against teams with good scoring defenses because I don't
like to take my defensemen out of position to try to score. i usually
play my friend or the computer w/o a goalie (on my team) and so if
my defensemen leave the blueline they tend to give up breakaways too
often.
Anyways, has anyone ever considered the worst teams in the game??? I've
been trying to win the cup without a goalie with every team in the league
and have found some teams that I thought sucked to be surprisingly
competent. Here's my five worst teams (with line changes, of course!).
1) Tampa Bay (Semenov, Bradley, then ???)
2) Ottawa (Surprisingly competent!)
3) San Jose (Fallon, Berezan, Kisio, Garpenlov do not a team make)
4) Toronto (Gilmour may be good, but not much else)
BTW, try Bullard, he can score with the best of them in this
game!!!
5) A cop-out but a tie between Minnesota and Phillie.
Anyways, I'd like some input because there are teams I rarely use and
I'd like to know if any of them are bad because I need a challenge
and I'm just not getting it lately!!!
- Derek Van Patter
Eric Hung
How about this one:
I was playing Chicago the other day against computer controlled Buffalo.
My goalie caught the puck and then fired it out immediately. The puck
bounced once in the midfield and then it went between the legs of my
opponent goalie and scored!!