Sega Rally 2 hits number one spot in Japan!
Agi...@my-dejanews.com
"Borrowed" from today's update of WWW.SEGANET.COM
"Sales figures for the week of January 25-31 have finally come in (sorry for
the delay, I expect last week's figures soon) and things are looking up for
the Dreamcast. A total of three games made the top thirty, with Sega Rally 2
coming in first.
That's right, in just three days, Sega Rally 2 became the number one selling
game in all of Japan with a total of 200,564 units sold. Evolution came in at
number 14 with 16,208 sales for a total of 92,574. Finally, Sonic Adventure
hit number 23 with 11,816 sales for a total of 342,027.
The next edition of the Japanese sales charts should be very interesting, it
will bode well for the Dreamcast's momentum to see Sega Rally 2 maintain a top
five slot."
When you consider how many more N64's and Playstations are out there, this
is an amazing feat! I'm sure Final Fantasy 8 will usurp this position with
ease, but still... Dreamcast is definitely gaining momentum in Japan!
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Haohmaru
Huge lineup in March look for DC to be dominating the top ten in japan...
bra...@my-dejanews.com
haoh...@aol.com (Haohmaru) wrote:
> And with Power Stone coming in a few weeks as well as Pop n' Music, and the
> Huge lineup in March look for DC to be dominating the top ten in japan...
Calm down guys... Some DC games might make it into the top ten from now
on a regular basis, but don't forget that FF8 is released in Japan tomorrow.
And this should be enough to make the sales of DC games pale in comparison
for some time I guess.
Bravni
Haohmaru
used to DC's Amazing graphics and huge games coming out in march, And I assure
you that KOF 98, MvC,Blue stinger, HOTD 2 ect. will sell crazy in japan,
Because KOF is huge in japan, As well as MvC, And even though FF8 will be a
great game.
I think most people are getting tired of PSX's Lackluster graphics
that have been the same for a while now, The most impressive PSX game I have
ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure you
that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or Grandia
2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
think FF8 will be the last Hurrah for PSX, And this christmas will be the last
big x-mas for them as well. I'm not trashing PSX's graphics, I'm just saying
it's time to raise the bar, I know myself and alot of others are growing tired
of the same old n 64 and psx games recycled over and over with different
titles, the luster has just worn off.
kaneda
Haohmaru wrote:
> FF8 will sell well in japan, But with more and more japanese people becoming
> used to DC's Amazing graphics and huge games coming out in march, And I assure
> you that KOF 98, MvC,Blue stinger, HOTD 2 ect. will sell crazy in japan,
> Because KOF is huge in japan, As well as MvC, And even though FF8 will be a
> great game.
>
> I think most people are getting tired of PSX's Lackluster graphics
> that have been the same for a while now, The most impressive PSX game I have
> ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure you
> that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or Grandia
> 2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
> think FF8 will be the last Hurrah for PSX,
but but i saw the graphics for RR4, they looked amazing... and for FF8 and GT2 much
better than DC stuff.......oh wait that was all FMV CG ....bugger
Good old Sony... still showing CG cut scenes instead of in game graphics.... always
able to con the un-informed customer.
kaneda
VX Blade
graphics
>that have been the same for a while now, The most impressive PSX game I
have
>ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure
you
>that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or
Grandia
>2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
last
>big x-mas for them as well. I'm not trashing PSX's graphics, I'm just
saying
>it's time to raise the bar, I know myself and alot of others are growing
tired
>of the same old n 64 and psx games recycled over and over with different
>titles, the luster has just worn off.
Thankfully Sega is back on the Scene in a "Big Boy on the Block" role. I've
ALWAYS liked Sega games better. They have a certain charm that is lost to
all but Nintendo 64's Mario and Zelda Titles.
Blade
Darien Allen
<p...@cs.bham.ac.uk> tried to run this line:
>Good old Sony... still showing CG cut scenes instead of in game graphics.... always
>able to con the un-informed customer.
Exactly how long are ppl going to continue to use this line? Is it
wrong to only show CG graphics? Morally probably yes, because you
could make a case for false advertising I suppose. BUT. Do you
honestly think the PSX still continues to sell well because ppl buy it
thinking all of it's graphics are of CG quality?
No, they buy it for gameplay. Now, YOU may not like the games on the
PSX. And that person might not like them.....BUT apparently alot of
ppl accepting that it does't have the greatest graphics still have
decided it's a system they want to own.
So please drop that line. It's lame, tired...and very old.
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Benjamin
> Look, this day Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:28:30 +0000, kaneda
> <p...@cs.bham.ac.uk> tried to run this line:
>
> >Good old Sony... still showing CG cut scenes instead of in game graphics.... always
> >able to con the un-informed customer.
>
> Exactly how long are ppl going to continue to use this line? Is it
> wrong to only show CG graphics? Morally probably yes, because you
> could make a case for false advertising I suppose. BUT. Do you
> honestly think the PSX still continues to sell well because ppl buy it
> thinking all of it's graphics are of CG quality?
No one I think is saying that game ads which feature CG graphics as the expense of the
in-game graphics are bad games. Final Fantasy 7 is a good game and would have sold well
enough based on its own merits and its namesake. However, when, in a market such as
America which has ignored RPGs for the most part, a company chooses to air ads which
make the game look like an adventure film, I think that is grossly misleading.
> No, they buy it for gameplay.
Woo! Toshiden! :^)
> Now, YOU may not like the games on the
> PSX. And that person might not like them.....BUT apparently alot of
> ppl accepting that it does't have the greatest graphics still have
> decided it's a system they want to own.
>
> So please drop that line. It's lame, tired...and very old.
Every Sony product of late which I've seen advertised used in-game footage for its
television ads. Did people become better educated after "being suckered?" Did Sony's
advertising team have a change of heart after Final Fantasy 7 sold a bazillion
Playstations? Do people care more about gameplay now than graphics? Do game pirates wear
patches over their eyes like the real macoy? This and more on r.g.v.sega!
Benjamin
Edward Seehwan Kwon
: ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure you
: that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or Grandia
: 2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
: think FF8 will be the last Hurrah for PSX, And this christmas will be the last
Hey hey, wait until Gran Turismo 2 comes out ^_^
Eddie KWon
Hubcaps
million in Japan.
(I have a friend who's a producer for them ).
<bra...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
news:79r61s$n4c$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com...
Darien Allen
tried to run this line:
>No one I think is saying that game ads which feature CG graphics as the expense of the
>in-game graphics are bad games. Final Fantasy 7 is a good game and would have sold well
>enough based on its own merits and its namesake. However, when, in a market such as
>America which has ignored RPGs for the most part, a company chooses to air ads which
>make the game look like an adventure film, I think that is grossly misleading.
I can't debate that, because while we both know the CG commercials
were misleading. We don't know out of the sales, how many ppl turned
around and returned the title disappointed in the main game graphics.
>> No, they buy it for gameplay.
>
>Woo! Toshiden! :^)
Cute.
>> Now, YOU may not like the games on the
>> PSX. And that person might not like them.....BUT apparently alot of
>> ppl accepting that it does't have the greatest graphics still have
>> decided it's a system they want to own.
>>
>> So please drop that line. It's lame, tired...and very old.
>
>Every Sony product of late which I've seen advertised used in-game footage for its
>television ads. Did people become better educated after "being suckered?" Did Sony's
>advertising team have a change of heart after Final Fantasy 7 sold a bazillion
>Playstations? Do people care more about gameplay now than graphics? Do game pirates wear
>patches over their eyes like the real macoy? This and more on r.g.v.sega!
This doesn't change my point. At least I don't think so...arr me
matey.
Haohmaru
better than a DC game, HA! GT is a good game and all, But in all honesty Rally
2 makes EVERY racer one PSX look like shit.
Hubcaps
MC <mb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:36C2A2...@hotmail.com...
>Hubcaps wrote:
>>
>> I know that up until Wednesday last week the pre-orders for FF8 were 1.8
>> million in Japan.
>> (I have a friend who's a producer for them ).
>
>
>I'm licking my lips over ff8 .. I need a good dose of rpg madness.
VX Blade
really. Because when the BIG push comes to shove. It's nice to know what
he's rambling.
Blade
Hubcaps wrote in message <79t24b$8u2$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>...
Michael Mullis
>on a regular basis, but don't forget that FF8 is released in Japan
tomorrow.
>And this should be enough to make the sales of DC games pale in comparison
>for some time I guess.
>
>Bravni
Thanks for injecting that large shot of pessimism into the thread. I doubt
FF8 will make all the Dreamcast sales magically "go away". Give me a break.
Michael Mullis
Member of Mood Swings Big Band
Maryland's Youngest and Swinginest Big Band
www.moodswings.com
and
Dreamcast-HQ
The ONLY place for Dreamcast news.
www.dreamcast-hq.net
Michael Mullis
>> Hey hey, wait until Gran Turismo 2 comes out ^_^
>>
>> Eddie KWon
>
>
>No thanks..I'll keep playing my Rally 2 ..and wait for Buggy Heat and
>Daytona USA on the dc, if its all the same to you?
And Super Speed Racing, Monaco GP2, Metropolis, Redline Racer, and all the
other racers coming out.
Michael Mullis
news:polarbr-1102...@tc-1-2-175.shinjuku.gol.ne.jp...
>In article <19990210171626...@ng101.aol.com>, haoh...@aol.com
>Actually, it doesn't. Graphically, it's far superior to GT. Gameplay? I'm
>still playing GT a year and a half later - I *know* I won't be doing that
>with SR2.
Why not? And did you say the same thing about GT? I will be playing Sega
Rally 2 for a LONG time. Mainly because of the many tracks and the 2 player
capabilities.
Michael Mullis
>>
>> I know that up until Wednesday last week the pre-orders for FF8 were 1.8
>> million in Japan.
>> (I have a friend who's a producer for them ).
>
>
>I'm licking my lips over ff8 .. I need a good dose of rpg madness.
Uhhhh, Evolution? Sengoku Turb???
Joe Ottoson
<stin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <bra...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
> news:79r61s$n4c$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com...
> >Calm down guys... Some DC games might make it into the top ten from now
> >on a regular basis, but don't forget that FF8 is released in Japan
> tomorrow.
> >And this should be enough to make the sales of DC games pale in comparison
> >for some time I guess.
> >
> >Bravni
>
> Thanks for injecting that large shot of pessimism into the thread. I doubt
> FF8 will make all the Dreamcast sales magically "go away". Give me a break.
>
Hey, Marty's been saying that for months. Didn't you know that any FF title
on any system automatically kills any competing system? Geeze. Some
people... ;)
John Ricciardi
<79no5l$o2i$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> When you consider how many more N64's and Playstations are out there,
this
>is an amazing feat! I'm sure Final Fantasy 8 will usurp this position with
>ease, but still... Dreamcast is definitely gaining momentum in Japan!
It's not all that amazing. Rally 2 was the only major release that week for
any system. I'm more interested in knowing how good of a job the game did
pushing DC hardware sales. We'll have to wait until this week's Famitsu hits
to find out. If it only sold 200,000 copies, then I'm worried it may not
have pushed as many hardware sales as I had hoped...
-John
MC
>
> Haohmaru wrote:
>
> > FF8 will sell well in japan, But with more and more japanese people becoming
> > used to DC's Amazing graphics and huge games coming out in march, And I assure
> > you that KOF 98, MvC,Blue stinger, HOTD 2 ect. will sell crazy in japan,
> > Because KOF is huge in japan, As well as MvC, And even though FF8 will be a
> > great game.
> >
> > that have been the same for a while now, The most impressive PSX game I have
> > that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or Grandia
> > 2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
> > think FF8 will be the last Hurrah for PSX,
>
> better than DC stuff.......oh wait that was all FMV CG ....bugger
>
> able to con the un-informed customer.
>
FF8 FMV CGI is stunning to say the least .. Care for a 3d0 anyone,
though?
MC
>
> Look, this day Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:28:30 +0000, kaneda
>
> >Good old Sony... still showing CG cut scenes instead of in game graphics.... always
> >able to con the un-informed customer.
>
> wrong to only show CG graphics? Morally probably yes, because you
> could make a case for false advertising I suppose. BUT. Do you
> honestly think the PSX still continues to sell well because ppl buy it
> thinking all of it's graphics are of CG quality?
>
> PSX. And that person might not like them.....BUT apparently alot of
> ppl accepting that it does 't have the greatest graphics still have
> decided it's a system they want to own.
>
Gameplay? On a Playstation? Are you trying to be funny?
Go on a bender with Marty Chinn ..
MC
MC
>
> > I think most people are getting tired of PSX's Lackluster
> graphics
> >that have been the same for a while now, The most impressive PSX game I
> have
> >ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure
> you
> >that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or
> Grandia
> >2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
> last
> saying
> >it's time to raise the bar, I know myself and alot of others are growing
> tired
> >of the same old n 64 and psx games recycled over and over with different
> >titles, the luster has just worn off.
>
> Thankfully Sega is back on the Scene in a "Big Boy on the Block" role. I've
> ALWAYS liked Sega games better. They have a certain charm that is lost to
> all but Nintendo 64's Mario and Zelda Titles.
>
> Blade
<nods>
MC
>
> Haohmaru <haoh...@aol.com> wrote:
> : ever seen Graphically was Tobal 2(Still an awsome game) But I can assure you
> : that if a japanese kid looked at ff8, And then looked at Evoulution, or Grandia
> : 2(when it comes out) He would more than likely choose the DC game, I really
> : think FF8 will be the last Hurrah for PSX, And this christmas will be the last
>
>
> Eddie KWon
No thanks..I'll keep playing my Rally 2 ..and wait for Buggy Heat and
Daytona USA on the dc, if its all the same to you?
bye!
MC
MC
Agi...@my-dejanews.com
To be honest, I enjoyed Sega Rally 1 more than Gran Tourismo. For whatever
reasons... I guess I didn't feel the same sensation of speed as Sega Rally
has.
Paul Hansen
> Gran Turismo 2 is not going to look any better than GT, And as for it being
> better than a DC game, HA! GT is a good game and all, But in all honesty Rally
> 2 makes EVERY racer one PSX look like shit.
Actually, it doesn't. Graphically, it's far superior to GT. Gameplay? I'm
still playing GT a year and a half later - I *know* I won't be doing that
with SR2. Gameplay does matter, if not, then why are people still playing
2D capcom fighters?
--
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MC
> >>
> >> Eddie KWon
> >
> >
> >No thanks..I'll keep playing my Rally 2 ..and wait for Buggy Heat and
> >Daytona USA on the dc, if its all the same to you?
>
> other racers coming out.
>
> Member of Mood Swings Big Band
> Maryland's Youngest and Swinginest Big Band
> www.moodswings.com
> and
> Dreamcast-HQ
> The ONLY place for Dreamcast news.
> www.dreamcast-hq.net
True .. but mainly those 2 :)
MC
>
Relax there matey ..i was refering to my purchase of a psx. I stated in
a calm and clear fashion that i bought the system for FF series. Sengoku
Turb is a poor game by any standards .. while Evolution may be the most
beautiful rpg since sliced Michael Mullis, it doesnt deter the fact that
A> I'v forgotten alot of Japanese ..
B> I'm not related to Bill Gates, hence i won't get any cash for my bday
from him ..
C> The game is easier than a 2c hooker ..
Fair enough, me laddio?
MC
Agi...@hotmail.com
"Michael Mullis" <stin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <bra...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
> news:79r61s$n4c$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com...
> >Calm down guys... Some DC games might make it into the top ten from now
> >on a regular basis, but don't forget that FF8 is released in Japan
> tomorrow.
> >And this should be enough to make the sales of DC games pale in comparison
> >for some time I guess.
> >
> >Bravni
>
> Thanks for injecting that large shot of pessimism into the thread. I doubt
> FF8 will make all the Dreamcast sales magically "go away". Give me a break.
Well, much as I hate to say it, he's right, to an extent. Sales of Final
Fantasy 8 will probably be more than the other top 10 games combined! What is
it 1.8 million pre-ordered I think I heard? Maybe, maybe not. But, if you
think Final Fantasy is big here. Over there... Sheesh. If a Final Fantasy
game comes out for Dreamcast...
kaneda
Darien Allen wrote:
> Look, this day 10 Feb 1999 10:05:52 PST, Benjamin <benj...@tmbg.org>
> tried to run this line:
>
> >No one I think is saying that game ads which feature CG graphics as the expense of the
> >in-game graphics are bad games. Final Fantasy 7 is a good game and would have sold well
> >enough based on its own merits and its namesake. However, when, in a market such as
> >America which has ignored RPGs for the most part, a company chooses to air ads which
> >make the game look like an adventure film, I think that is grossly misleading.
>
> I can't debate that, because while we both know the CG commercials
> were misleading. We don't know out of the sales, how many ppl turned
> around and returned the title disappointed in the main game graphics.
That kind of figure will never be released so no-one can really know, all you can do is base
it on the people who actually bought the games and see what they think.
As a consumer i know a lot of psx fans who were dissapointed that what they got was not what
they saw (mainly racing games of late).
I've never said that CG ads indicate a bad game, but you have to agree that the use of CG ads
are mis-leading AND greatly increase the chance that the average consumer will buy that
product.
Much like the Spice Girls, they look talented but they simply aren't.....
> >> No, they buy it for gameplay.
> >
> >Woo! Toshiden! :^)
>
> Cute.
please do not mention this game to me....... i haven't recovered from playing it.
>
> >> Now, YOU may not like the games on the
> >> PSX. And that person might not like them.....BUT apparently alot of
> >> ppl accepting that it does't have the greatest graphics still have
> >> decided it's a system they want to own.
> >>
> >> So please drop that line. It's lame, tired...and very old.
> >
> >Every Sony product of late which I've seen advertised used in-game footage for its
> >television ads. Did people become better educated after "being suckered?" Did Sony's
> >advertising team have a change of heart after Final Fantasy 7 sold a bazillion
> >Playstations? Do people care more about gameplay now than graphics? Do game pirates wear
> >patches over their eyes like the real macoy? This and more on r.g.v.sega!
>
> This doesn't change my point. At least I don't think so...arr me
> matey.
It's a gross mis-conception that pirates wear patches over their eyes, doing so would impair
their judgement while battling with cut-lasses/firing cannons and other general pirate
activities... including trying to pee in a bucket.
kaneda
the grunt of the purple one sent shivers down his spine
Raymond McKeithen II
kaneda wrote in message <36C2BFB6...@cs.bham.ac.uk>...
>Darien Allen wrote:
>
>> Look, this day 10 Feb 1999 10:05:52 PST, Benjamin <benj...@tmbg.org>
>> tried to run this line:
>>
>> >No one I think is saying that game ads which feature CG graphics as the
expense of the
>> >in-game graphics are bad games. Final Fantasy 7 is a good game and would
have sold well
>> >enough based on its own merits and its namesake. However, when, in a
market such as
>> >America which has ignored RPGs for the most part, a company chooses to
air ads which
>> >make the game look like an adventure film, I think that is grossly
misleading.
>>
>
>> >
>> >Woo! Toshiden! :^)
>>
>> Cute.
>
>please do not mention this game to me....... i haven't recovered from
playing it.
>
>>
>
>kaneda
>the grunt of the purple one sent shivers down his spine
>
Raymond
remove 2 nospam's for email.
kaneda
Raymond McKeithen II wrote:
> kaneda wrote in message <36C2BFB6...@cs.bham.ac.uk>...
> >Darien Allen wrote:
> >
> >> Look, this day 10 Feb 1999 10:05:52 PST, Benjamin <benj...@tmbg.org>
> >> tried to run this line:
> >>
> >kaneda
> >the grunt of the purple one sent shivers down his spine
> >
> Purple one? Barney? (hmm, I guess you've been spared from him in the UK...)
hehe yes.... well he's already here but not that popular... Even that Barney
movie didn't do much. But how can Barney compete when you have the
Tele"stupid"tubbies... Sorry about them.. i gather they're becoming a nuisance
in the US now.
But it's not the purple beast i seek/fear
kanedaripthoseteletubbiesintoteenytinypieces
Michael Mullis
>> And Super Speed Racing, Monaco GP2, Metropolis, Redline Racer, and all
the
>> other racers coming out.
>>
>> Michael Mullis
>
>True .. but mainly those 2 :)
Heheheh good point. I want them ALL though. Especially SSR. 19 tracks,
real car physics, and 27 teams I believe. Nice. :)
Michael Mullis
>while Evolution may be the most
>beautiful rpg since sliced Michael Mullis, it doesnt deter the fact that
>
???? =) I like that! I'm gonna have to write that down! Hehehe
>A> I'v forgotten alot of Japanese ..
Which is more than I know, so you have one up on me. :)
>B> I'm not related to Bill Gates, hence i won't get any cash for my bday
>from him ..
Me either. But we could always leak that story to the media. Hehehe. Bill
Gates's illigitimate sons. :)
>C> The game is easier than a 2c hooker ..
>
Hmmm. Right up my alley. I hate RPG's, except for Lunar.
>
>Fair enough, me laddio?
>
Arrr.... Aye Captain. :)
>MC
Michael Mullis
news:79tpth$2f9$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com...
> Well, much as I hate to say it, he's right, to an extent. Sales of Final
>Fantasy 8 will probably be more than the other top 10 games combined! What
is
>it 1.8 million pre-ordered I think I heard? Maybe, maybe not. But, if you
>think Final Fantasy is big here. Over there... Sheesh. If a Final Fantasy
>game comes out for Dreamcast...
>
I'll grant you that. I wouldn't try to debate that part. But if FF8 made
it to Number 1, their are still 9 other games that will show up. What if 7
of them were Dreamcast? There's a big difference between the millions of
PSX's out there and the probably 700,000+ DC's.
My point was no matter how many FF8's sell, Dreamcast sales won't magically
die.
Agi...@my-dejanews.com
"Michael Mullis" <stin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'll grant you that. I wouldn't try to debate that part. But if FF8 made
> it to Number 1, their are still 9 other games that will show up. What if 7
> of them were Dreamcast? There's a big difference between the millions of
> PSX's out there and the probably 700,000+ DC's.
>
> My point was no matter how many FF8's sell, Dreamcast sales won't magically
> die.
>
700,000 Dreamcasts? Wow. I haven't heard that before, but its great if its
true. Hopefully Sega Rally 2 can stick around in at least the top 4. I'm
quite certain that Marvel vs. Capcom will be a system seller though. Of
course, it would help if Marvel vs. Street Fighter wasn't still on the hot
list... Anyway, in the US, this will be the first "VS" title that has been
arcade perfect. That alone should do wonders for the system!
CptBill
Sega Rally is far better than Gran Turismo. (well, in my opinion).
CptBill
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