Saturn/DC games with viruses?
BelPowerslave
Over the next few weeks, I was thinking of bringing a few DC/Saturn
games up to work with me, to pop in the PC and see what extra stuff(if
any) they had on the discs. The thing is, I remember someone talking
about some Saturn game that had a virus on it(I think it was one of
these Altier Ellie games, maybe?). As I could just do this at home, on
the Mac(where it's super-safe), I just don't have time nowadays(and I'm
not doing *anything* at work). Does anyone happen to know if any other
Saturn or DC games contain any viruses?
Thanks in advance,
Bel
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Max Lords
"BelPowerslave" <belpow...@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> 'ello all,
>
> Over the next few weeks, I was thinking of bringing a few DC/Saturn
> games up to work with me, to pop in the PC and see what extra stuff(if
> any) they had on the discs. The thing is, I remember someone talking
> about some Saturn game that had a virus on it(I think it was one of
> these Altier Ellie games, maybe?). As I could just do this at home, on
> the Mac(where it's super-safe), I just don't have time nowadays(and I'm
> not doing *anything* at work). Does anyone happen to know if any other
> Saturn or DC games contain any viruses?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bel
>
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>
No such thing as far as I know. MAYBE if you DLed teh ISO images of the
games, someone could have hid a virus on the downloaded ISO, but if you're
using official discs, I doubt it's a worry at all.
Ted
BelPowerslave wrote:
>
> 'ello all,
>
> Over the next few weeks, I was thinking of bringing a few DC/Saturn
> games up to work with me, to pop in the PC and see what extra stuff(if
> any) they had on the discs. The thing is, I remember someone talking
> about some Saturn game that had a virus on it(I think it was one of
> these Altier Ellie games, maybe?). As I could just do this at home, on
> the Mac(where it's super-safe), I just don't have time nowadays(and I'm
> not doing *anything* at work). Does anyone happen to know if any other
> Saturn or DC games contain any viruses?
It was the Japanese Dreamcast Atelier Marie game which had a virus, and
it was spread by the screensaver that was included as an extra. There
was a fair amount of news about it; it was being called the "first
console virus". Now whether that's true, or if it's similar to "Madden
2003 is the first online football game", I don't really know. But I
think NCS was saying that was the first virus they'd heard of on a
console game, and I haven't seen a similar uproar since then. Hardly
solid proof, I know.
I've been thinking about making a FAQ of what DC games have extras.
Interested in keeping track of what games you're checking, region of
origin, whether or not there are any extra music tracks, and whether or
not there are any PC extras?
BelPowerslave
> it was spread by the screensaver that was included as an extra. There
> was a fair amount of news about it; it was being called the "first
> console virus". Now whether that's true, or if it's similar to "Madden
> 2003 is the first online football game", I don't really know. But I
> think NCS was saying that was the first virus they'd heard of on a
> console game, and I haven't seen a similar uproar since then. Hardly
> solid proof, I know.
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. Well, I guess I'll be safe(just
in case) and try them on the Mac...maybe try a few up here too on the PC
at work.
> I've been thinking about making a FAQ of what DC games have extras.
> Interested in keeping track of what games you're checking, region of
> origin, whether or not there are any extra music tracks, and whether or
> not there are any PC extras?
Check out the Old School Sega Section on my page, I just added my DC
games to the "Not-so-old-school-Sega Section" at the bottom. That, along
with the Saturn games are what I'll be checking. I'm going to put it in
a Word doc, then add it to my little, short reviews when I get around to
it. If you want a copy, or me to post what I've found, just let me know.
Bel
BTW, so far, and I've just brought demo discs to work today, this is
what I've found:
Dreamcast Generator, Vol 2 - Pop it in and run the Swirl.exe to install
the shockwave version of Swirl on the PC. It's ok, but it doesn't ever
randomize the boards...and Swirly Snake isn't there!!!
ODCM Sampler Vol 5-11 - All have this Swirl.exe on them as well.
ODCM Sampler Vol 1 - This fucking thing crashed non-stop on Windows 2000
here at the Library, and there's no Mac version of the app...but you
can just open the "MPEG MOVIES" folder to watch all the preview movies.
Christmas Nights - Has an "extras" folder in it, with two bitmap pics.
I've posted the Clair pic on my House of Renders, page 6 if you do not
have Christmas Nights, or don't want to pop it in the Mac/PC.
BelPowerslave
> games, someone could have hid a virus on the downloaded ISO, but if you're
> using official discs, I doubt it's a worry at all.
Yeah, they're all originals, it was that DC version of Altier Ellie that
Ted was talking about that had it. That's the only I've ever heard about
so I guess it'll be ok. I'd hate to give the entire company a virus
doing something I'm not even supposed to be doing...;)
Bel
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BelPowerslave
> BTW, so far, and I've just brought demo discs to work today, this is
> what I've found:
>
> Dreamcast Generator, Vol 2 - Pop it in and run the Swirl.exe to install
> the shockwave version of Swirl on the PC. It's ok, but it doesn't ever
> randomize the boards...and Swirly Snake isn't there!!!
>
> ODCM Sampler Vol 5-11 - All have this Swirl.exe on them as well.
>
> ODCM Sampler Vol 1 - This fucking thing crashed non-stop on Windows 2000
> here at the Library, and there's no Mac version of the app...but you
> can just open the "MPEG MOVIES" folder to watch all the preview movies.
>
> Christmas Nights - Has an "extras" folder in it, with two bitmap pics.
> I've posted the Clair pic on my House of Renders, page 6 if you do not
> have Christmas Nights, or don't want to pop it in the Mac/PC.
>
Panzer Dragoon Playable Demo - This thing is 155 megs! Is the full game
on here? I thought I remembered hearing, a long while back, that with
the GameShark or something it was found?
Bel
Ted
BelPowerslave wrote:
>
snip
>
> Check out the Old School Sega Section on my page, I just added my DC
> games to the "Not-so-old-school-Sega Section" at the bottom. That, along
> with the Saturn games are what I'll be checking. I'm going to put it in
> a Word doc, then add it to my little, short reviews when I get around to
> it. If you want a copy, or me to post what I've found, just let me know.
>
I was actually hoping for the following format (actually, just the info
that fills in each field):
Game Region Audio Extra Content
----------------------------------------------------------------
18 Wheeler US Audio1 No
Alone in the US Audio1 No
Dark: The New Nightmare
(Discs1 and 2)
Atari AnniversaryUS Audio1 No
Bangai-O US Audio2 No
Blue Stinger US Audio3 Yes; 18 bitmaps, many
of them swimsuits
Audio codes
Audio1: 7 seconds, female, resonant
Audio2: 1 minute 19 seconds, multilingual
Audio3: 14 seconds, silent
The thing is, you only have abou 2 dozen games I don't (potentially more
depending on the country of origin of each of your games); it would make
more sense for me to type up my list before I ask others for their
input.
So, i'll get off my ass now and work on this tonight; maybe by tomorrow
I can more effectively ask for your input on those 2 dozen games, and
everyone else's input on the several hundred other games.
BelPowerslave
> that fills in each field):
>
> Game Region Audio Extra Content
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 18 Wheeler US Audio1 No
> Alone in the US Audio1 No
> Dark: The New Nightmare
> (Discs1 and 2)
> Atari AnniversaryUS Audio1 No
> Bangai-O US Audio2 No
> Blue Stinger US Audio3 Yes; 18 bitmaps, many
> of them swimsuits
> Audio codes
> Audio1: 7 seconds, female, resonant
> Audio2: 1 minute 19 seconds, multilingual
> Audio3: 14 seconds, silent
>
>
> The thing is, you only have abou 2 dozen games I don't (potentially more
> depending on the country of origin of each of your games); it would make
> more sense for me to type up my list before I ask others for their
> input.
> So, i'll get off my ass now and work on this tonight; maybe by tomorrow
> I can more effectively ask for your input on those 2 dozen games, and
> everyone else's input on the several hundred other games.
Yeah, I can dig it. I'll probably only have it listed if there's
anything on the disc. If there's anything I have though, that you can't
get just let me know and I can give you the info in the format you'd like.
BTW, on the Blue Stinger disc, are those swimsuit shots rendered? If so,
I may have to pick up a copy on the way home tonight, as A) I can add
them to the House of Renders and B) I've always wanted to try the game
out anyway.
Bel
Ted
BelPowerslave wrote:
snip
> Yeah, I can dig it. I'll probably only have it listed if there's
> anything on the disc. If there's anything I have though, that you can't
> get just let me know and I can give you the info in the format you'd like.
Cool.
>
> BTW, on the Blue Stinger disc, are those swimsuit shots rendered? If so,
> I may have to pick up a copy on the way home tonight, as A) I can add
> them to the House of Renders and B) I've always wanted to try the game
> out anyway.
They are rendered.
BelPowerslave
>>I may have to pick up a copy on the way home tonight, as A) I can add
>>them to the House of Renders and B) I've always wanted to try the game
>>out anyway.
>
>
> They are rendered.
Solid, they have it at GameStop for, like, $5 nowadays, I'll pick it up.
Thanks,
Raymond McKeithen II
"Max Lords" <thereal...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Shows what you know doesn't it? Why spout off nonsense when you have no
actual knowledge?
The Japanese Dreamcast game Atelier Marie & Elie contains a virus in a
Windows screensaver that's on the disc. This was widely reported in the
Japanese press and I believe by NCS.
Japanese news link:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20011120/koolkizz.htm
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Michael Cargill
> actual knowledge?
Because, you ignorant fucking wanker, HE DIDNT REALISE HE WAS WRONG. Plus
he said 'No such thing as far as I know', and didnt make it out to be a
solid fact.
> The Japanese Dreamcast game Atelier Marie & Elie contains a virus in a
> Windows screensaver that's on the disc. This was widely reported in the
> Japanese press and I believe by NCS.
Oh, you BELIEVE it was reported by NCS? You mean, just like Max Lords
'believed' he was right? And yet you have to act like a tosser towards him?
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Sean Connery
Michael Cargill <mikeme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Shows what you know doesn't it? Why spout off nonsense when you have no
>> actual knowledge?
>
>Because, you ignorant fucking wanker, HE DIDNT REALISE HE WAS WRONG. Plus
>he said 'No such thing as far as I know', and didnt make it out to be a
>solid fact.
True that.
>> The Japanese Dreamcast game Atelier Marie & Elie contains a virus in a
>> Windows screensaver that's on the disc. This was widely reported in the
>> Japanese press and I believe by NCS.
>
>Oh, you BELIEVE it was reported by NCS? You mean, just like Max Lords
>'believed' he was right? And yet you have to act like a tosser towards him?
Even more true.
He was wrong. But unlike some people around here he included an AFAIK
disclaimer, and would probably be happy to stand corrected? Save the
superiority complex for something more worthy as a a New Year platitude?
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Sean Connery
BelPowerslave <belpow...@ev1.net> wrote:
>> It was the Japanese Dreamcast Atelier Marie game which had a virus, and
>> it was spread by the screensaver that was included as an extra. There
>> was a fair amount of news about it; it was being called the "first
>> console virus". Now whether that's true, or if it's similar to "Madden
>> 2003 is the first online football game", I don't really know. But I
>> think NCS was saying that was the first virus they'd heard of on a
>> console game, and I haven't seen a similar uproar since then. Hardly
>> solid proof, I know.
>
>Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. Well, I guess I'll be safe(just
>in case) and try them on the Mac...maybe try a few up here too on the PC
>at work.
But what kind of virus was it? If it was a M$ macro virus, it could
attack a Mac as well I believe.
The big question is why doesn't your work PC or mail server have AV softs?
The odds of getting a computer virus via email far outweighs the odds of
getting one from a console game.
Michael Cargill
>
> He was wrong. But unlike some people around here he included an AFAIK
> disclaimer, and would probably be happy to stand corrected? Save the
> superiority complex for something more worthy as a a New Year platitude?
I reckon that you have got more chance of Doane going on that Quake LAN
session, than of Raymond acting without being an arsehole.
Ted
Sean Connery wrote:
>
snip
> But what kind of virus was it? If it was a M$ macro virus, it could
> attack a Mac as well I believe.
It's in a screensaver. It's the W32/kriz virus, which infects Windows
95/98 and NT. So, no, unless he's viewing it through a Windows emulator,
he's safe on his Mac.
>
> The big question is why doesn't your work PC or mail server have AV softs?
> The odds of getting a computer virus via email far outweighs the odds of
> getting one from a console game.
I think he doesn't want to run any risk of infecting his workplace
computers while doing something not work related (even if they allow
it).
BelPowerslave
Apparently it was some sort of virus that went through the
screensaver(?). I don't really know too much about it, I just remembered
hearing about it at one point.
If it was a M$ macro virus, it could
> attack a Mac as well I believe.
Yeah, that's true, unless you turn off that option in the MS apps on
Mac. I usually do, but then again, I don't deal with anything that has
any sort of macro script in it. As far as I know, even if you get a
macro virus, it will only affect MS apps like Office, Outlook and IE,
but can't do anything to the rest of the Mac...again, I think.
> The big question is why doesn't your work PC or mail server have AV softs?
Oh, it does, it's just that I'm still relatively new here. I just got
hired, officially, about two weeks ago(was contract for about a month
and a half here, before that), and I really like this job. I would hate
to be the new guy who unleashed some virus on the company(assuming
McAfee or whatever they have here doesn't already the antidote). :)
> The odds of getting a computer virus via email far outweighs the odds of
> getting one from a console game.
I agree.
Bel
Ted
BelPowerslave wrote:
>
snip
> >
> > The thing is, you only have abou 2 dozen games I don't (potentially more
> > depending on the country of origin of each of your games); it would make
> > more sense for me to type up my list before I ask others for their
> > input.
> > So, i'll get off my ass now and work on this tonight; maybe by tomorrow
> > I can more effectively ask for your input on those 2 dozen games, and
> > everyone else's input on the several hundred other games.
>
> Yeah, I can dig it. I'll probably only have it listed if there's
> anything on the disc. If there's anything I have though, that you can't
> get just let me know and I can give you the info in the format you'd like.
snip
Alright then. Here's some outtakes from the FAQ, submitted to GameFAQs
already, and once it's up I won't have to post such long messages as
this one (my own colleciton actually provided me with almost 42 percent
of the normal US releases). This is only US stuff here, assuming most of
your collection is North American (and since the FAQ's goal is to get
get complete US game coverage, not complete overall coverage, at least
not yet). This might be easier once the FAQ itself is up, but in case
you're about to run through your GD-ROMs, I figured I'd post it now.
First, here are the main English audio codes (certain game specific
warnings are not listed in this posting, and neither are the Japanese
warnings). You may encounter additional warnings; please describe the
speaker, the length, and the text which is read if you do.
Please give me information in the following format
Game Region/Audio/Extra Content
------------------------------------------------
Bangai-O US 2 No
Blue Stinger US 3 Yes; 18 bitmaps, many
of them swimsuits
Spacing isn't important; just the four kinds of info and the order given.
B. AUDIO CODES
1: 7 seconds, female, resonant: "Warning, this disc is for use only on
Sega Dreamcast."
1a: Same as 1, except it is 6 seconds (less silence on the track).
2: 1 minute 19 seconds, multilingual: First speaker, British woman "This
is a Dreamcast disc and is for use only on a Dreamcast unit; playing
this disc on a HiFi or other audio equipment can cause serious damage to
its speakers. Please stop this disc now." The following are guesses;
Second speaker: French man. Third speaker: German woman. Fourth speaker:
Spanish man. Fifth speaker: Italian woman.
3: 14 seconds, silent
4: 12 seconds, female: "This is a Dreamcast game disc. The first track
contains game data. Please do not play it on a normal CD player."
5: 6 seconds, male. "This disc is for use only on Sega Dreamcast."
6: 14 seconds, female. Same as the British portion of 2.
7: 16 seconds, male, with piano music. "This disc contains special data
for use only with Dreamcast, and cannot be played on a standard CD player."
8: 9 seconds, female, apparent Japanese pronunciation. "This is a
Microsoft Windows CE day disc for Dreamcast. Prease do not pray. Thank you."
C. US GAMES NOT CHECKED
US Games unchecked for this FAQ, 1/7/03:
102 Dalmatians: Puppies Rescue
4 Wheel Thunder
4x4 Evolution
Aero Wings
Aero Wings 2: Airstrike
Air Force Delta
Armada
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes
BANG! Gunship Elite
Bleemcast! Metal Gear
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
Caesar's Palace
Carrier
Centipede
Championship Surfer
Charge'n Blast
Chicken Run
Conflict Zone: Peace Makers
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Deep Fighter
Dinosaur
Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers
Draconus: Cult of the Wyrm
Dragon Riders Chronicles of Pern
Ducati World Racing Challenge
ECW: Anarchy Rulz
ECW: Hardcore Revolution
Elemental Gimmick Gear
ESPN International Track and Field
ESPN NBA 2 Night
Evil Dead: Hail to the King
Evolution 2
Expendable
F1 World Grand Prix
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
Fighting Force 2
Frogger 2: Swampy's Revenge
Fur Fighters
Grandia 2
Grinch, The
Heavy Metal Geomatrix
Hidden and Dangerous
Hoyle Casino
Incoming
Industrial Spy: Operation Espionage
Iron Aces
Jeremy McGrath Supercross
Kao the Kangaroo
Kiss Psycho Circus: The Nightmare Child
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX
Max Steel: Cnvert Missuons
MDK2
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol. 1
Monaco Grand Prix
Mortal Kombat
Ms. Pac-Man Maze Madness
MTV Sports: Skateboarding
Namco Museum Volume 1
NBA 2K
NBA 2K1
NBA 2K2
NBA Hoopz
NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC
NCAA College Football 2K2
NFL 2K
NFL 2K1
NFL 2K2
NFL Blitz 2000
NFL Blitz 2001
NFL Quarterback Club 2000
NFL Quarterback Club 2001
NHL 2K2
Nightmare Creatures II
Omikron: The Nomad Soul
Outtrigger
POD Speedzone
Power Stone 2
Prince of Persia: Arabian Nights
Q-Bert
Rayman 2
Razor: Freestyle Scooter
Ready to Rumble Boxing: Round 2
Record of Lodoss War
Red Dog: Superior Fire Power
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Re-Volt
Roadsters
San Francisco Rush 2049
Seventh Cross Evolution
Shadow Man
Silver
Skies of Arcadia
Slave Zero
Snow Cross Championship Racing
Soldier of Fortune
Soul Fighter
South Park: Chef's Luv Shack
South Park: Rally
Spec Ops: Omega Squad
Speed Devils Online Racing
Spider-Man
Spirit of Speed 1937
Star Wars Episode 1: Jedi Power
Star Wars Episode 1: Racer
Star Wars: Demolition
Striker Pro 2000
Stupid Invaders
Super Magnetic Neo
Super Runabout: San Francisco Edition
Surf Rocket Racers
Suzuki Alstare Extreme Racing
Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage
Sydney Olympics 2000
Tee off
Test Drive 6
Test Drive Le Mans
Test Drive V-Rally
TNN Motorsports: Hardcore Heat
Tokyo Xtreme
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear
Tomb Raider: Chronicles
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the rescure!
Trickstyle
Urban Chaos
Vanishing
Vigilante 8: Second Offense
Virtua Athlete 2K
Virtua Striker 2
Walt Disney World Quest: Magical Racing Tour
Wetrix
Who Wants to Beat up a
Wild Metal
World Series Baseball 2K2
Worms: World Party
WWF Attitude
WWF: Royal Rumble
Xtreme Sports
144 unchecked, plus Bleemcast MGS 1/7/03
The list of games not checked is derived from the US Dreamcast game list
of kinsukeJP, reachable by email at kins...@hotmail.com
The original list can be found at
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/dreamcast/game/22940.html
I may have inadvertently snipped out a game or two deleting excess
information; if you notice an example of that, please tell me about it.
If you don't get around to it now, no big deal. The FAQ's completion
will be an ongoing project for at least a little while.
BelPowerslave
Well, I've only brought Saturn games with me to work today, but next
week I am going to start bringing the DC stuff to work, checking through
it as well. I haven't found too many interesting things from the Saturn
games from yesterday. Mostly, a lot of the games will have an .exe
file(which I scan for viruses first, just in case) that will open a DOS
window then close it immediately. Also, most have their movies in .mov
files that WMP and Quicktime can't understand. About the only cool
thing, so far, has been all the Netlink pics and art I got off the Duke
Nukem 3D disc.
Am going to hit some more Saturn games today, with two CD-Rom's on this
PC at work, it goes pretty quick...but I can only stuff some many Saturn
games in my briefcase. ;)
I'll let ya'll know if I find anything interesting...
BelPowerslave
> PC at work, it goes pretty quick...but I can only stuff some many Saturn
> games in my briefcase. ;)
>
> I'll let ya'll know if I find anything interesting...
Well, that was thoroughly disappointing. About the only things I found
were the Bonus stuff on Nights that I already knew about, Puyo Puyo Tsu
will let you here all of the intermission, japanese conversations, Three
Dirty Dwarves has a "secret" folder that has the three profiles in it
and Mega Man 8 has a "Bonus" folder but all of the files in it are
".pac" so you can't do anything with them.
I also noticed that a lot of files on these games are in .pic files, yet
Quicktime and even Photoshop cannot open them. Is there an app out there
to open these files?
Michael Cargill
> were the Bonus stuff on Nights that I already knew about, Puyo Puyo Tsu
> will let you here all of the intermission, japanese conversations, Three
> Dirty Dwarves has a "secret" folder that has the three profiles in it
> and Mega Man 8 has a "Bonus" folder but all of the files in it are
> ".pac" so you can't do anything with them.
>
> I also noticed that a lot of files on these games are in .pic files, yet
> Quicktime and even Photoshop cannot open them. Is there an app out there
> to open these files?
Have a look here - http://filext.com/
It is a list of file extensions, and the programs that can be used to view
the files. Both .pac and .pic are in the 'P' list.
Sean Connery
BelPowerslave <belpow...@ev1.net> wrote:
>I also noticed that a lot of files on these games are in .pic files, yet
>Quicktime and even Photoshop cannot open them. Is there an app out there
>to open these files?
I know that SoftImage (http://www.softimage.com/home/) has a ".pic"
format. No idea if it's the same, but it probably is, as SoftImage has
long made softare used by gaming studios. There are filters for .pic for
the GIMP. I assume there are some Photoshop ones floating arouund..
Aha, looks like PC/Mac Photoshop filters can be found here.
http://www.highend3d.com/softimage/