SATURN IS MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN PLAYSHIT
Che'
Najib wrote:
>
> You are my friend....
> Najib,Nancy,France;
>
> --
> Najib,Nancy,France.
This is too funny! Najib is feeling all warm
and fuzzy inside... awwwww.... :)
-che'
hulk
For those who know about hardware stuff, Saturn is much more capable for
2D and 3D than PlayShit.
2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
people out there says that PlayShit is better, I cannot understand this.
Except if they are idiots.
Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
Sega showed what the SATURN CAN DO with 3D (SEGA RALLY, VIRTUA COP,
VIRTUA FIGHTER 2, PANZER DRAGOON 2 and all the new games that are
coming).
As for SOUL EDGE is a 3D, low resolution, slow fighting game (30 fps)
with nothing new.
Dare to compare with Fighting Vipers 3D, high resolution, fast action
(60 fps), with an all-new gameplay (enclosed rings, power-moves, new
jump and ground attacks, blah-blah.)?
I DO NOT THINK SO...
Now, as for games, SATURN has and will have BETTER games than PlayShit.
The problem with SATURN is that needs much more time to program in 3D
than the PlayShit.
There is no way that PlayShit is better than SATURN. That's why Sony put
the big bucks ($) and pounds (f) to marketing tricks. They knew that
SEGA's games and hardware are beyond they could even imagine.
This is just the beginning...
... SATURN will win the NEXT-GEN
war no matter what!!!
PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
(BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2, etc.
PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
Deluxe, Manx T.T.
PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
Scott Alter
hulk <hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
[MUCH childish babble deleted]
>PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
>PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
>PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
Well....11 years old or 12? You make the call....the only surprise
is, it wasn't from AOL!
Najib
In article (Dans l'article) <31BFE1...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
<hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote (écrivait) :
> For those who know about hardware stuff, Saturn is much more capable for
> 2D and 3D than PlayShit.
>
> The problem with SATURN is that needs much more time to program in 3D
> than the PlayShit.
>
> There is no way that PlayShit is better than SATURN. That's why Sony put
> the big bucks ($) and pounds (f) to marketing tricks. They knew that
> SEGA's games and hardware are beyond they could even imagine.
> This is just the beginning...
> ... SATURN will win the NEXT-GEN
> war no matter what!!!
>
> PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
> (BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
> PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2, etc.
> PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
> 2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
> PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
> Deluxe, Manx T.T.
> PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
> PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
> PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
You are my friend....
Najib,Nancy,France;
--
Najib,Nancy,France.
Zen
hulk <hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> writes:
>For those who know about hardware stuff, Saturn is much more capable for
>2D and 3D than PlayShit.
Ahh yes, mister "hardware stuff" himself.
>2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
>similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
>people out there says that PlayShit is better, I cannot understand this.
>Except if they are idiots.
Settle down Beavis.
>Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
>Sega showed what the SATURN CAN DO with 3D (SEGA RALLY, VIRTUA COP,
>VIRTUA FIGHTER 2, PANZER DRAGOON 2 and all the new games that are
>coming).
Listen foolish one--the Saturn does not have the inherent built
in capability to do transparencies (unlike the "Playshit") Saturn
can easily do transparencies if programmed into specific games.
>As for SOUL EDGE is a 3D, low resolution, slow fighting game (30 fps)
>with nothing new.
>Dare to compare with Fighting Vipers 3D, high resolution, fast action
>(60 fps), with an all-new gameplay (enclosed rings, power-moves, new
>jump and ground attacks, blah-blah.)?
>I DO NOT THINK SO...
Sould Edge is low res??? Didn't look that way to me... I think
Fighting Vipers has such ridiculous characters, I wouldn't touch
that game. But wait a second... aren't we talking about Saturn
and "Playshit?" Neither of these games are available on either
system right now. So what's your point?
>Now, as for games, SATURN has and will have BETTER games than PlayShit.
Oh yes, what a thoroughly objective and logical statement...
>The problem with SATURN is that needs much more time to program in 3D
>than the PlayShit.
Isn't that a serious disadvantage? If it takes much longer to program
a game, it will take longer to get good games out, and cost more in
development translating to higher cost. Of course there are plenty
of goo 3D games on Saturn that are inexpensive, but I still don't
follow your pathetic excuse for an argument.
>T here is no way that PlayShit is better than SATURN. That's why Sony put
>the big bucks ($) and pounds (f) to marketing tricks. They knew that
>SEGA's games and hardware are beyond they could even imagine.
> This is just the beginning...
> ... SATURN will win the NEXT-GEN
> war no matter what!!!
AHHHH!!!! Yes, we MUST Crush the infidels! Long live the reign of
Saturn. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! KILL!!!! KILL!!!!!
>PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
> (BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
Hmmm, I seem to recall at least 40 or 50 titles that are on "Playshit"
that are not on Saturn. Plenty of good ones too...
>PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2, etc.
>PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
> 2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
>PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
> Deluxe, Manx T.T.
>PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
>PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
>PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
What's this "We" shit? Who is "We" anyway? Do you have multiple
personalities, or are you deluded enough to think other Saturn
owners think like you, or even take you seriously? I'm sick of
these kinds of postings in both sony and sega groups... Is it
so hard to except that maybe, JUST MAYBE, both systems are good?
terrell gibbs
In article <peltona....@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
pel...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Zen) wrote:
:
:Listen foolish one--the Saturn does not have the inherent built
:in capability to do transparencies (unlike the "Playshit") Saturn
:can easily do transparencies if programmed into specific games.
Actually, we have heard from Saturn programmers that it does indeed have
the capability to do transparencies in hardware, although it has not been
heavily used, and mostly in 2D games. I've heard that Iron Storm uses
transparent polygons, but I haven't seen it myself.
:
:Sould Edge is low res??? Didn't look that way to me... I think
:Fighting Vipers has such ridiculous characters, I wouldn't touch
:that game. But wait a second... aren't we talking about Saturn
:and "Playshit?" Neither of these games are available on either
:system right now. So what's your point?
Soul Edge looks to me to be running at about half the vertical resolution
of VF2--just like every other PS game to date.
:
:Hmmm, I seem to recall at least 40 or 50 titles that are on "Playshit"
:that are not on Saturn. Plenty of good ones too...
Good ones? Let's see...there's Tekken2, Resident Evil, Jack Flash, Twisted
Metal, Warhawk. Can't seem to think of any more...maybe some sports games
(I wouldn't know; I can't stand them). Gee, that's about the same number
of worthwhile titles as the N64 will have at introduction. And the N64 has
better graphics...
Brad Bogert
In article <31BFE1...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
<hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
> For those who know about hardware stuff, Saturn is much more capable for
> 2D and 3D than PlayShit.
>
> 2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
> similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
> people out there says that PlayShit is better, I cannot understand this.
> Except if they are idiots.
>
> Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
> Sega showed what the SATURN CAN DO with 3D (SEGA RALLY, VIRTUA COP,
> VIRTUA FIGHTER 2, PANZER DRAGOON 2 and all the new games that are
> coming).
>
> As for SOUL EDGE is a 3D, low resolution, slow fighting game (30 fps)
> with nothing new.
> Dare to compare with Fighting Vipers 3D, high resolution, fast action
> (60 fps), with an all-new gameplay (enclosed rings, power-moves, new
> jump and ground attacks, blah-blah.)?
> I DO NOT THINK SO...
>
> Now, as for games, SATURN has and will have BETTER games than PlayShit.
>
> The problem with SATURN is that needs much more time to program in 3D
> than the PlayShit.
>
> There is no way that PlayShit is better than SATURN. That's why Sony put
> the big bucks ($) and pounds (f) to marketing tricks. They knew that
> SEGA's games and hardware are beyond they could even imagine.
> This is just the beginning...
> ... SATURN will win the NEXT-GEN
> war no matter what!!!
>
> PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
> (BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
> PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2, etc.
> PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
> 2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
> PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
> Deluxe, Manx T.T.
> PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
> PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
> PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
Ok, now who let the 4-year old use their Internet account?
blake fischer
Alright I'm bored so I'm going to heckle this guy... so sue me..
hulk (hu...@prometheus.hol.gr) wrote:
> For those who know about hardware stuff, Saturn is much more capable for
> 2D and 3D than PlayShit.
And what? they teach you this some high school engineering class or something?
Or did your buddy let you in on this priveleged information?
> 2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
> similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
> people out there says that PlayShit is better, I cannot understand this.
> Except if they are idiots.
SMP? Don't know this abbreviation. Comparing the Dual SH2's running in
parallell to the R3000 + GPU is like comparing apples and oranges. Really!
They're completely different processors.
> Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
Why didn't they do them in Wipeout or DD? Where did they say this? Sources
sources...
> Sega showed what the SATURN CAN DO with 3D (SEGA RALLY, VIRTUA
COP, > VIRTUA FIGHTER 2, PANZER DRAGOON 2 and all the new games that are
> coming).
Out of all of those games only Rally (IMHO) does an awesome job. Why? VF2
looked cool except for the lack of backdrops AND the TERRIBLE BGM and
sound effects. 3D doesn't mean anything if the entire package suffers as a
result. Panzer Dragoon 2 is still a low res rail shooter. The textures are
grainy and only one or 2 levels are truly impressive (the water level
comes to mind.). All in all it's nothing PSX owners haven't seen in
Warhawk (about 8 months ago.). And sorry, VCop is a fun game (once again
short and easy but...) but it isn't anything truly impressive.
> As for SOUL EDGE is a 3D, low resolution, slow fighting game (30 fps)
> with nothing new.
> Dare to compare with Fighting Vipers 3D, high resolution, fast action
> (60 fps), with an all-new gameplay (enclosed rings, power-moves, new
> jump and ground attacks, blah-blah.)?
>
OK, one is extremely popular in the US and is getting a 100%+ home
conversion before christmas and the other is Fighting Vipers... limited
release, mediocre reviews and a pretty fair assumption that it's going to
be cut down for home release.
> I DO NOT THINK SO...
Somehow, I don't think you do...
> Now, as for games, SATURN has and will have BETTER games than PlayShit.
Good argument, I especially like your use of examples! Perhaps the fact
that the PSX has more games in the top 20 sales wise (and has since
release) should tell you otherwise. But then again, as you said... you
don't think.
> The problem with SATURN is that needs much more time to program in 3D
> than the PlayShit.
Well, thats certainly one of the problems...
> There is no way that PlayShit is better than SATURN. That's why Sony put
> the big bucks ($) and pounds (f) to marketing tricks. They knew that
> SEGA's games and hardware are beyond they could even imagine.
> This is just the beginning...
> ... SATURN will win the NEXT-GEN
> war no matter what!!!
Actually, it wasn't long ago when Sega used the $$$ in marketing to
compete with Nintendo (That may have been before your time.) It wasn't
just the marketing that caused the playstation to stomp the Saturn...
> PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
> (BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
Actually I don't remember playing Twisted Metal on the Saturn, Or Warhawk
for that matter... could be me...
> PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2,
etc.
Wow, have you gotten Loaded 1 yet? Or DD? Face it, Psygnosis has not
announced these titles for Saturn at all and they couldn't even do the
prequels right on the Saturn. Conclusion: Unless you have some extremely
priveleged information (which is doubtful) you are wrong, again. (And you
really start to sound like, well, an uneducated moron. No, Really!)
> PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
> 2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
Good thing, 'cause you're not getting Tekken II. The best selling 32 bit
game of all time, quite possibly fighting game of the year...
> PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
> Deluxe, Manx T.T.
> PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
> PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
> PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
Wow, I feel better. Any time you Sega advocates want to post such mindless
drivel, feel welcome. Without any facts you remind me of....prey.
--
----- Blake The STU *************************
"Backing out of the driveway, Mr. Peabody suddenly brought his car
to a stop. He had already heard a peculiar "thump," and now those
flattened but familiar looking glasses further intrigued him"
************************* STU'n In '96 -----
---END TRANSIMISSION---
NoFear
I see someone stopped taking their prozac and starting playing
on the hospital's computer.
NoFear
Dear
[ ] A$$hole [ ] Dork [X] Ignorant Ass [ ] Prick
[ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis [ ] Lonely Masturbator [ ] Butthead
[ ] Retard [ ] Pencil Neck Geek
You are being flamed because
[ ] you continued a boring, useless, and stupid thread.
[ ] you repeatedly posted to the same thread that you just
posted to
[ ] you posted a "test".
[ ] you used vi and left a whole bunch of editing garbage on
the screen.
[ ] you posted a request for an article which was posted three
times in the past week.
[ ] you posted a "blank".
[X] you posted some sort of crap that doesn't belong
in this group.
[ ] you posted the inanely stupid 'Make Money Fast' article.
[ ] your mother dresses you funny.
[ ] other -- You posted the same messge __ times.
To recant, you must
[ ] give up all your worldly possessions and become a Tibetan
monk.
[ ] hang yourself by the big toe for 72 hours.
[X] abstain from sex for a month (shouldn't be too hard for
you).
[ ] shave your head, paint a target on it, and go to Iraq.
[ ] give your Congressman a donation of three hemp plants to
decorate his office.
[ ] become politically correct and demand that manholes be
renamed to peroffspringopenings.
[ ] promise to never post trash on the net again.
[ ] see another one of those super cheezy AT&T commercials
[ ] other --
Thank you for the time you have taken to read this, and please decist
from the offending behavior that led to this flame.
Paul Pavlin
Ya know, that guy is troll and all, but he didn't post his article
in rec.sony. You on the other hand posted your more mature, but just
as inflamatory and biased (to Saturn owners) response in rec.sega.
I'm not even gonna bother to take your arguments apart, but let me
tell you that I think that 80% of what you said is just as much BS is
that Hulk kid's rant, and based purely on personal opinion. I know
that that guy angered you and all, but if you don't like postings
favorable to Sega, just try and stay out of this newsgroup. That is
unless you're prepared to be labeled a troll and being flamed.
-Ken Oshigawa
Paul Pavlin
Ya know, that guy is troll and all, but he didn't post his article
terrell gibbs
In article <4pqcva$k...@dewey.csun.edu>, hbrt...@csun.edu (blake fischer) wrote:
:Panzer Dragoon 2 is still a low res rail shooter. The textures are
:grainy and only one or 2 levels are truly impressive (the water level
:comes to mind.). All in all it's nothing PSX owners haven't seen in
:Warhawk (about 8 months ago.)
I don't find the textures at all grainy--they're as good as I've seen on
any system, although I expect that the N64 will probably do better. You
are probably thinking of the 1 or 2 seconds here and there where the
camera zooms in really close to a surface and you can see some pixelation.
But all of the current systems do that if you get close to a large
texture--try walking up to a wall in PS Doom. Sega obviously decided that
the dramatic effect justified the momentary degradation of the textures.
I thought Warhawk was OK, although not really the same kind of game.
Warhawk is a flight simulator/dogfight game, whereas PD is a scrolling
shooter. In general, I thought that Warhawk was nice technically, but
that it otherwise seemed very conventional and rather unimaginative in
comparison to either PD game. Nothing to match the startling beauty of PD.
hulk
YOU ARE JUST A MINDLESS PLAYSHIT GAMER. I AM IN GAMES BUSINESS FROM 1984
AND HISTORY SAYS:
SEGA WILL BE THE WINNER IN NEXT-GENERATION NO MATTER HOW STUPID GAMERS
BUYING PLAYSHITS...
AS FOR PREY... PRAY TO THE MAGAZINES FOR THE PLAYSHIT...
HULK SMASHES!!!
PS. PLAYSHIT GAMERS ARE FULL OF SHIT...
hulk
PLAYSHIT GAMERS AFRAID OF SEGA... AND MY SOURCES ARE THE PSYGNOSIS
THEMSELVES. ALSO READ REVIEWS FROM E3... SHITY GAMERS OF PLAYSHIT...
ALSO, PSYGNOSIS DID NOT DO TRANSPARENCIES BECAUSE OF THE TIME TABLES
THEY HAD FOR RELEASING THE WIPEOUT.
AS FOR WARHAWK IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN ALMOST ALL THE MAGAZINES ARE CALLING
THE PD2 THE BEST SHOOTER FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT!!!
TEKKEN 2... YOU COMPARE IT TO THE 3D BEAT 'EM UPS OF SEGA's 3D FIGHTING
GAMES... YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT... GET LOST... YOU PLAYSHIT!!!
WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
S.L.A.
NoFear (nof...@domu.corp.sun.com) wrote:
: I see someone stopped taking their prozac and starting playing
: on the hospital's computer.
Prozac is an anti-depressant, not an anti-psychotic drug.
hulk
WHERE WAS SONY AT THE E3 ???
AFRAID OF THE COMPETITION... GET LOST PLAYSHIT...
Teh Kao Yang
In article <tgibbs-1406...@128.197.252.149>,
Warhawk was very impressive technically to me at first, but then I realized
that the game had several serious problems.
First of all, u can produce serious clipping problems if u try to back up
or turn behind large buildings. Somehow, the program tries to prvent u
from doing this by "pushing" u away from walls of buildings. I guess most
games that allow total freedom of movement will encounter this problem.
Also, there is almost no reason to try shooting down the numerous
small enemies attacking u. Since most of your mission objectives involve
destroying "main" targets, u have no incentive to do any real dogfighting.
-TK
vejita
okay okay I would like to say that I am an equal rights activist and am not
totally biased either way =)
>In article <31BFE1...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
><hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
>
>> Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
yeah but we ain't seen them yet.
>> VIRTUA FIGHTER 2, PANZER DRAGOON 2 and all the new games that are
>> coming).
yuh they are graphically good. erh, and?
>> As for SOUL EDGE is a 3D, low resolution, slow fighting game (30 fps)
>> with nothing new.
Let's just say Samurai Shodown in 3D. And resolution? Who's counting the
pixels? Who cares?
>> Dare to compare with Fighting Vipers 3D, high resolution, fast action
>> (60 fps), with an all-new gameplay (enclosed rings, power-moves, new
>> jump and ground attacks, blah-blah.)?
>> I DO NOT THINK SO...
I myself like FV, but others seem to think otherwise...
>> PS. The only game that SATURN does not have is CAPCOM's RESIDENT EVIL
>> (BIOHAZARD). When we will get this one, PlayShit... R.I.P.
keyword is when. I wouldn't be surprised if it did, seeing as what the Saturn
can do at the moment. Just don't expect it for a while.
>> PS. We will get Wipeout 2, Destruction Derby 2, Loaded 2, etc.
Well lucky you. Loaded2? Are sure? I haven't heard this one before. And
wipeout is a good game. I'm glad it's getting the recognition it deserves.
>> PS. We do not need Tekken 2, we have Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter
>> 2, Fighting Sonic, Virtua Fighter Kids, etc.
There are NAMCO fighters people and SEGA fighters people. (I'm a bit of
both) You're right in the sense that you don't need Tekken2, like the PS
owners don't need FV, VF, FS, VFK, etc.
>> PS. We do not need Ridge Racer Revolution we have Sega Rally, Daytona
>> Deluxe, Manx T.T.
Actually I could do without RRR too. I don't particularly fancy Sega Rally,
Daytona or Manx TT though. Wipeout really cuts it for me.
>> PS. We do not need ANY OTHER PlayShit's games. We have the BEST...
>> PS. Long live SEGA SATURN
>> PS. Rest In Pieces, PlayShit...
It's single minded little shits like you that make Usenet a bitch to read.
>Ok, now who let the 4-year old use their Internet account?
<agreeD>
And who's the idiot who took time to answer it! tiiooh! =)
Craig Yarbrough
Hulk@prometheus or something like that shouted:
>WHERE WAS SONY AT THE E3 ???
>
>AFRAID OF THE COMPETITION... GET LOST PLAYSHIT...
Sony WAS at E3. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, you dirty,
dirty boy?
Siv
James Arguello
Thank the lord!!! About time someone wrote one of these. Oh and it would
be better to force him to see those cheezy AT&T ads.
ssi
hulk wrote:
(Dumb stuff cut out) ---END TRANSIMISSION---
>
> PLAYSHIT GAMERS AFRAID OF SEGA... AND MY SOURCES ARE THE PSYGNOSIS
> THEMSELVES. ALSO READ REVIEWS FROM E3... SHITY GAMERS OF PLAYSHIT...
>
> ALSO, PSYGNOSIS DID NOT DO TRANSPARENCIES BECAUSE OF THE TIME TABLES
> THEY HAD FOR RELEASING THE WIPEOUT.
>
> AS FOR WARHAWK IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN ALMOST ALL THE MAGAZINES ARE CALLING
> THE PD2 THE BEST SHOOTER FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT!!!
>
> TEKKEN 2... YOU COMPARE IT TO THE 3D BEAT 'EM UPS OF SEGA's 3D FIGHTING
> GAMES... YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT... GET LOST... YOU PLAYSHIT!!!
>
> WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
You're losing it. Now you can't even type correct. PD2 in MOHO is a good game,
but not the BEST. Don't believe everything you read my dear boy.
Tekken ranks right up there with VF2. To me, VF2 is a true fighters game.
Tekken 2 is a grown-up SF type fighter. No fireballs and such but much more
action oriented than VF2.
P.S. It's NOT Playshit, it's called Playstation. If you can't even debate using
real names, you must think the Saturn sucks enough to start name callings.
tuffy
I own a Saturn. I like my Saturn. To whomever started this thread,
STAY OFF MY SIDE!!!!
cro...@ibm.net
>>In article <31BFE1...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
>><hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
>>
>>> Psygnosis says that SATURN CAN DO 3D transparencies.
>
>yeah but we ain't seen them yet.
Yes we have. Iron Storm proves that.
>I myself like FV, but others seem to think otherwise...
I don't like the characters... I have never played it, but from what I've
seen so far... I don't care for the characters too much..
Edward/2 * [Team OS/2]
Brad Bogert
In article <31C18E...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
<hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
First of all, how could history say Sega will win when: a) Sony has never
been a contender before, b) Sega has never won in the past, it has just
been first. At best, Sega and Nintendo TIED for 16-bit. How could Sega
be the winner if Sony outsells it? More sales = Winner! And so far,
PlaySTATION HAS outsold Saturn.
> PS. PLAYSHIT GAMERS ARE FULL OF SHIT...
Well, unless you own a PSX, I doubt that this is true...
Brad Bogert
In article <31C190...@prometheus.hol.gr>, hulk
<hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
You source is Psygnosis, huh? What would they know about Loaded? That
was by Interplay, who does NOT make Saturn games. And the last time I
checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn. And about
PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
> WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
Who the heck is we? You and your right hand? How could you possibly have
won? Nintendo isn't even out yet! Besides, Playstation is winning right
now. That would make Sony the winners! Well, we'll wait and see...
Paul Pavlin
He're an ancient Transelvanian proverb for you:
"The shit that sells the most ain't always the best shit."
Just because Jurastic Pork, and Shitgate made tons more dough, doesn't
make them better sci fi movies than Bladerunner.
The consumers often are a pretty ignorant, hype buying, and even idiotic
bunch of people.
-Ken Oshigawa
Andrew Ryan Chang
blake fischer <hbrt...@csun.edu> wrote:
>Alright I'm bored so I'm going to heckle this guy... so sue me..
>hulk (hu...@prometheus.hol.gr) wrote:
>> 2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
>> similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
>
>parallell to the R3000 + GPU is like comparing apples and oranges. Really!
>They're completely different processors.
Well, I agree in that two different processors at similar clock
rates means *nothing*. SMP means symetric multiprocessing- ie several
chips handle the main tasks. The Amiga has several subsidiary
processors, but is at heart a single processor, cause that's what the OS
mainly runs on.
>Good thing, 'cause you're not getting Tekken II. The best selling 32 bit
>game of all time, quite possibly fighting game of the year...
Y'know, for a guy who speaks about facts, I'd sure love to hear
the justification for this one. Did you know that VF2 was *the* game in
Japan? The one that knocked SF2 off the #1 spot? The one that was at or
near the #1 position for over a year? The one that Tekken never ever got
past for a day? Is that the game you claim to be the best selling 32
bit game of all time?
I think you might just have missed out the Japanese market when
making your sales estimates.
--
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Greg Sewart
Brad Bogert wrote:
<Sega Advocacy Deleted>
> You source is Psygnosis, huh? What would they know about Loaded? That
> was by Interplay, who does NOT make Saturn games.
Loaded is coming to the Saturn, I believe Dave's page states this.
And the last time I
> checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn.
Here we go again, Astal, Guardian Heroes, Iron Storm, to name but a few.
Oh, and before you start talking about light source shading, check Wing
Arms.
And about
> PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
Purely opinion. I could probably find 50 people right now who say the
PS is superior, I could also find the same amount of people saying the
opposite.
>
> > WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
> Who the heck is we? You and your right hand? How could you possibly have
> won? Nintendo isn't even out yet! Besides, Playstation is winning right
> now. That would make Sony the winners! Well, we'll wait and see...
Although what the op said was complete stupidity, you make yourself out
to be almost as bad. Wghile he is guilty of system bashing in the
extreme, you seem to want to do it on a more subtle level.
BTW, I'm not standing up for the original poster as he gives Saturn
owners a bad name.
Greg
Alatorre
> You source is Psygnosis, huh? What would they know about Loaded? That
> was by Interplay, who does NOT make Saturn games. And the last time I
> checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn. And about
> PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
>
> > WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
> Who the heck is we? You and your right hand? How could you possibly have
> won? Nintendo isn't even out yet! Besides, Playstation is winning right
> now. That would make Sony the winners! Well, we'll wait and see...
>
Game Informer, Gamefan, Lamepro they all acknowledged that PD2 is one
of the the best shooters of all time. Read some mags before you
comment you troll! And Tekken BITES!!!! OH, let's not forget the
Saturn is the best selling next-gen system World-Wide.
-Dragonmaster X (defender of Althena and smiter of evil)
Janos Horvath
hulk (hu...@prometheus.hol.gr) wrote:
: YOU ARE JUST A MINDLESS PLAYSHIT GAMER. I AM IN GAMES BUSINESS FROM 1984
: AND HISTORY SAYS:
: SEGA WILL BE THE WINNER IN NEXT-GENERATION NO MATTER HOW STUPID GAMERS
: BUYING PLAYSHITS...
: AS FOR PREY... PRAY TO THE MAGAZINES FOR THE PLAYSHIT...
: HULK SMASHES!!!
: PS. PLAYSHIT GAMERS ARE FULL OF SHIT...
I think loudmouth lobotomites like Bulk here just ruin it all.
Bulk loud mouth.
Bulk big dick.
Bulk no brains.
Bulk full of primordial ooze.
Bulk brain smaller than pea.
Stupid asshole. You think you encourage newcomers to buy Saturn with your
drivel?
=== Flogger, the Videogame Nut! ===
C=128/2600 Jr/TVBoy/NES-001/NES-101/TG-16/TE/Duo/SNES/PSX/Saturn
Joe Ottoson
> And the last time I
> > checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn.
>
> Here we go again, Astal, Guardian Heroes, Iron Storm, to name but a few.
> Oh, and before you start talking about light source shading, check Wing
> Arms.
>
Might as well add this little tidbit. Funky head boxers displays
transparent polygons in the boxer's heads...
> And about
> > PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> > the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> > fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> > a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
>
> Purely opinion. I could probably find 50 people right now who say the
> PS is superior, I could also find the same amount of people saying the
> opposite.
>
Besides, VF2 still puts up stiff competition. FV ought to shut up the
Tekken 2 people (graphically at least) for a month...
Always remember...
Real faith is objective.
Roger A. Kaenamru
Paul Pavlin wrote:
>
> He're an ancient Transelvanian proverb for you:
>
> "The shit that sells the most ain't always the best shit."
>
> Just because Jurastic Pork, and Shitgate made tons more dough, doesn't
> make them better sci fi movies than Bladerunner.
>
> The consumers often are a pretty ignorant, hype buying, and even idiotic
> bunch of people.
> -Ken Oshigawa
Actually, now you're basing it on opinion. I think JP is better than bladerunner.
R. Todd Dyer
> > > checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn.
> >
> > Oh, and before you start talking about light source shading, check Wing
> > Arms.
> >
> Might as well add this little tidbit. Funky head boxers displays
> transparent polygons in the boxer's heads...
>
> > > PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> > > the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> > > fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> > > a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
> >
> > PS is superior, I could also find the same amount of people saying the
> > opposite.
> >
> Besides, VF2 still puts up stiff competition. FV ought to shut up the
> Tekken 2 people (graphically at least) for a month...
>
> Always remember...
>
> Real faith is objective.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't real time light sourcing in the first gen Saturn game
Virtual Hydelide? I haven't played the game in over seven months, but I seem to
remember there was a sword that shot a light flame and another shot a dark flame. The
light sword's projectile lit up the path while the dark sword's projectile did the
opposite.
R. Todd Dyer
Janos Horvath
Alatorre (alat...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: Game Informer, Gamefan, Lamepro they all acknowledged that PD2 is one
: of the the best shooters of all time. Read some mags before you
: comment you troll!
And I am supposed to share the same opinions as some loud magazines?
Smells like Communist China to me.
: And Tekken BITES!!!!
In your opinion. Is everybody else supposed to conform with you? 'Tis a
sad day for democracy if you think so.
: OH, let's not forget the Saturn is the best selling next-gen system
: World-Wide.
I'm not convinced that you can provide me with concrete data, and you're
probably not inclined to go out there looking for it yourself.
Besides, the "best-selling" is rarely the best item for everybody. Say
the Chevrolet Camaro is the best-selling ponycar of all time. Does that
mean that Mustang aficionados have misspent their money? Not at all. They
have simply put money on the car that pleases THEM the most. They will
rip your balls off before they let you force them to buy something else.
Brad Bogert
> > You source is Psygnosis, huh? What would they know about Loaded? That
> > was by Interplay, who does NOT make Saturn games. And the last time I
> > checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn. And about
> > PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> > the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> > fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> > a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
> >
> > > WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
> > Who the heck is we? You and your right hand? How could you possibly have
> > won? Nintendo isn't even out yet! Besides, Playstation is winning right
> > now. That would make Sony the winners! Well, we'll wait and see...
> >
>
> Game Informer, Gamefan, Lamepro they all acknowledged that PD2 is one
> of the the best shooters of all time. Read some mags before you
> comment you troll! And Tekken BITES!!!! OH, let's not forget the
> Saturn is the best selling next-gen system World-Wide.
>
> -Dragonmaster X (defender of Althena and smiter of evil)
Actually, the same game magazines you listed have all said that Tekken2 is
amazing. It got straight 5.0's from Gamepro. So why don't you shut up
and take your own advice Dragonmasterbater X.
Daryn Brown
You are a smoker friend. I could compare these two movies on many counts and
jp only beats bladerunner in one ie. special effects. God, Bladerunner is an
industrial/cyberpunk benchmark. With one of the deepest stories out there. Even
the screenplay was excellent, based closely on phillip k dicks "Do androids dream
of electric sheep" whereas JP doesn't even come close to the original story.
This is like comparing pulp fiction to grease II.
DBIII
SSI
Alatorre wrote:
> Game Informer, Gamefan, Lamepro they all acknowledged that PD2 is one
> of the the best shooters of all time. Read some mags before you
> comment you troll! And Tekken BITES!!!! OH, let's not forget the
> Saturn is the best selling next-gen system World-Wide.
>
> -Dragonmaster X (defender of Althena and smiter of evil)
Ok, I know this is in a Sega newsgroup, but Saturn is NOT the best selling 32bit
system. In Japan yes. In USA no.
I don't think PD2 is the best shooter. Its good. Way better than number one.
Tekken 1 does not bite. Its as good as Virtua Fighter 1. Tekken 2 rocks. Like Virtua
Fighter 2. But besides being fighter games, DON'T compair them. Both play in a
different ways.
P.S. I do own BOTH systems. Both Rocks! But neither is better than the other in all
areas. If it was, I wouldn't have bought both.
Mark Weatherill
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> From: d...@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (Daryn Brown)
> Newsgroups: rec.games.video.sega
> Subject: Re: SATURN IS MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN PLAY
> Date: 20 Jun 1996 08:19:51 GMT
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This is great, here we have a movie critique in a console
newsgroup.
I love it
Mark
Keldroc
d...@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (Daryn Brown) writes:
>
> You are a smoker friend. I could compare these two movies on
many counts and
> jp only beats bladerunner in one ie. special effects. God,
Bladerunner is an
> industrial/cyberpunk benchmark. With one of the deepest
stories out there. Even
> the screenplay was excellent, based closely on phillip k
dicks "Do androids dream
> of electric sheep" whereas JP doesn't even come close to the
original story.
>
> This is like comparing pulp fiction to grease II.
>
> DBIII
>
Actually, Blade Runner is about as faithful to Dick's book as JP is to
Crichton's. Yawning canyons of distance between the two. But you
obviously haven't read it anyway, so....
Good movie though. Definitely better than JP and Stargate, although I do
like both those movies. Hell, I like Stargate better than JP.
Keldroc, Master of the Elements of Water and Air
Official Ninja Wrangler of the Church of X-Books
_________
"Give us gin! It makes a man mean!"
"Everyone booze up and riot!"
-- Milk & Cheese
Brad Bogert
In article <4q57sr$7...@morgoth.sfu.ca>, arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang)
wrote:
> blake fischer <hbrt...@csun.edu> wrote:
> >Alright I'm bored so I'm going to heckle this guy... so sue me..
> >hulk (hu...@prometheus.hol.gr) wrote:
> >> 2 SMP CPU's are far beyond better than 1 CPU. Especially if the 1 CPU is
> >> similar to other's in MHz (2x28 MHz VS 1x33MHz). How to the hell all the
> >
> >SMP? Don't know this abbreviation. Comparing the Dual SH2's running in
> >parallell to the R3000 + GPU is like comparing apples and oranges. Really!
> >They're completely different processors.
>
> Well, I agree in that two different processors at similar clock
> rates means *nothing*. SMP means symetric multiprocessing- ie several
> chips handle the main tasks. The Amiga has several subsidiary
> processors, but is at heart a single processor, cause that's what the OS
> mainly runs on.
>
> >Good thing, 'cause you're not getting Tekken II. The best selling 32 bit
> >game of all time, quite possibly fighting game of the year...
>
> Y'know, for a guy who speaks about facts, I'd sure love to hear
> the justification for this one. Did you know that VF2 was *the* game in
> Japan? The one that knocked SF2 off the #1 spot? The one that was at or
> near the #1 position for over a year? The one that Tekken never ever got
> past for a day? Is that the game you claim to be the best selling 32
> bit game of all time?
>
> I think you might just have missed out the Japanese market when
> making your sales estimates.
> --
The Japanese and American sales markets are completely different. Virtua
Fighter is *the* game there. Here, it hasn't enjoyed the same level of
popularity. As an example: The art of Virtua Fighter was a $50 CD that
sold really well there. All it was was pictures of the characters of VF.
WOuld that same thing sell well here? No. And as another example: Are
puzzle games half as popular here as they are in Japan? No. You can't
walk into an arcade and start playing a Tetris-type game, can you? I
doubt it. The only puzzle game that really caught on here recently was
Bust-A-Move. Fighting games aren't as popular there as they are here, and
the ones that ARE popular there involve, well, more strategy (VF2 for
example), whereas we want games with more blood, more special moves, more
combos, etc. And Tekken2 happens to offer most of these things. And of
course, don't forget the fact that Tekken2 has been given perfect (or darn
close to it) ratings by every magazine to review it so far.
Roger Kanemaru
Joe Ottoson wrote:
> Besides, VF2 still puts up stiff competition. FV ought to shut up the
> Tekken 2 people (graphically at least) for a month...
>
Whats FV? If you mean VF, then youre wrong. (Are you talking about VF2?)
Roger Kanemaru
Daryn Brown wrote:
> > > Just because Jurastic Pork, and Shitgate made tons more dough, doesn't
> > > make them better sci fi movies than Bladerunner.
> > >
> > > The consumers often are a pretty ignorant, hype buying, and even idiotic
> > > bunch of people.
> > > -Ken Oshigawa
> >
> > Actually, now you're basing it on opinion. I think JP is better than bladerunner.
>
> jp only beats bladerunner in one ie. special effects. God, Bladerunner is an
> industrial/cyberpunk benchmark. With one of the deepest stories out there. Even
> the screenplay was excellent, based closely on phillip k dicks "Do androids dream
> of electric sheep" whereas JP doesn't even come close to the original story.
>
> This is like comparing pulp fiction to grease II.
>
> DBIII
Ok, you got me. The original poster compaired the two movies. I was just stating which
one I liked better, not which movie had a deeper story line. Heck, when BR came out it
looked scary and I couldn't follow it to well (I'm 27 now) Now, JP I could and it was
fun to watch.
R. Todd Dyer
FV is Fighting Vipers. It is another AM2 fighter like VF, except the gameplay is
faster and there are 3D walls around the ring. If you pin your opponent against the
wall you can deliver nasty combos. You can also do aerial moves off the wall. The
characters wear armor, top and bottom, that can be destroyed seperately. Once the armor
is lost the fighter takes double the damage to that area. The game is incredible, the
graphics breathtaking, and the gameplay exhilirating.
R. Todd Dyer
The Ultimate Gaming Resource
Http://www.nai.net/~duane/home.htm
Greg Meadows
At the risk of becoming flame bait...The comment refering to the Saturn as the
best selling next-gen system world wide is not true. Eventhough the Saturn sales
has improved, the PSX is still outselling the Saturn.
NoFear
(Owner of both the Playstation and Saturn)
In article 19069619...@phx-ip-183.netzone.com, bbo...@netzone.com (Brad Bogert) writes:
In article <31C685...@earthlink.net>, alat...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > You source is Psygnosis, huh? What would they know about Loaded? That
> > was by Interplay, who does NOT make Saturn games. And the last time I
> > checked, NO ONE had done a transparency on the Saturn. And about
> > PD2..Well, yes, you are mistaken. I haven't heard one magazine call it
> > the best anything. And yes, we do compare Tekken 2 to the Saturn's 3d
> > fighting games. So why don't you? Because you can't find a category that
> > a Sega game would beat Tekken 2 in. I'm right, aren't I?
> >
> > > WE WON THE NEXT-GEN WAR... KCUF UOY PLAYSHIT...
> > Who the heck is we? You and your right hand? How could you possibly have
> > won? Nintendo isn't even out yet! Besides, Playstation is winning right
> > now. That would make Sony the winners! Well, we'll wait and see...
> >
>
> Game Informer, Gamefan, Lamepro they all acknowledged that PD2 is one
> of the the best shooters of all time. Read some mags before you
> comment you troll! And Tekken BITES!!!! OH, let's not forget the
> Saturn is the best selling next-gen system World-Wide.
>
> -Dragonmaster X (defender of Althena and smiter of evil)
Actually, the same game magazines you listed have all said that Tekken2 is
Greg Sewart
Roger Kanemaru wrote:
>
> Joe Ottoson wrote:
>
> > Besides, VF2 still puts up stiff competition. FV ought to shut up the
> > Tekken 2 people (graphically at least) for a month...
> >
> Whats FV? If you mean VF, then youre wrong. (Are you talking about VF2?)
FV, Fighting Vipers. A Saturn fighter that will be gouraud shaded and
employ light source shading.
Greg
James Arguello
I agree. I can't belive TSD 2 sells well in this country. Why must so
many people in this country be so stupid?
Joe Ottoson
In article <31C9EE...@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu>,
kane...@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu wrote:
> Joe Ottoson wrote:
>
> > Besides, VF2 still puts up stiff competition. FV ought to shut up the
> > Tekken 2 people (graphically at least) for a month...
> >
> Whats FV? If you mean VF, then youre wrong. (Are you talking about VF2?)
No, it's a magical game called Fighting Vipers. It ought to shut up the
graphics people if nothing else will.
G Ennis
James Arguello <cmdr...@aol.com> spewed forth :
>I agree. I can't belive TSD 2 sells well in this country. Why must so
>many people in this country be so stupid?
Welcome to America !!!
Andrew Ryan Chang
Brad Bogert <bbo...@netzone.com> wrote:
>In article <4q57sr$7...@morgoth.sfu.ca>, arc...@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang)
>> making your sales estimates.
>The Japanese and American sales markets are completely different. Virtua
>Fighter is *the* game there. Here, it hasn't enjoyed the same level of
>popularity. As an example: The art of Virtua Fighter was a $50 CD that
No kidding. What the guy I was replying to said was that TK2 was
the best selling game of its genre and maybe best game of the year. I
disagreed, in large part cause he had in fact overlooked the Japanese
market, where VF2 is an amazing sucess for Sega. I think the Sega of
America guys could have really pushed VF2 much harder than they did,
cultural differences being only one part of the reason VF2 didn't do so
well here.
(other reasons include crappy joysticks at the arcades, crappy
buttons, poor advertising, poor promotions to the arcade managers, and of
course the lack of information about the game (Gamest in Japan wrote up
huge amounts of info, all trivial yet important nuances that make the
difference between a master (or obsessed fan, YMMV) and an average player.)
I am not 100% surprised that TK2 is more popular than VF2 at the
arcades in America, though.
--
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Net Three Verb Ice Reflection
Ched Chorture
On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:13:15 -0700, James Arguello <cmdr...@aol.com>
wrote:
>Paul Pavlin wrote:
>I agree. I can't belive TSD 2 sells well in this country. Why must so
>many people in this country be so stupid?
Honestly, I don't think it's totally due to stupidity (well, it is,
but some of it's from the Game co's, not the consumers.) I think one
of the reasons that Tekken 2 is coming out so much later here is to
give TSD2 some time to sell. As weak as TSD2 is, it's the most hyped
PSX fighter right now (I think Zero Divide and Tekken 1 are both
better games, but hey,,,,,they're OLD...), so people desparate to play
a fighting game (or just to have a pretty piece of gamefluff to
impress their friends with) will pick it up. Sony is also doing this
with sports titles such as EA's (there's supposed to be a 4-6 month
time span between Sony sports titles and EA titles). Fanboys can rant
all they want on all sides, but Sony has a good system, just not good
policies.
"I'm pretty #$*=!@' FAR from Okay..."
JIKLX
fighter (which doesn't include Soul Edge). I can certainly understand an
aesthetic preference for Tekken 2, but VF2's characters have a MUCH
higher polygon count, move more gracefully, and the game utilizes a 3D
ring rather than an "infinite" expanse of ugly flat ground, and features
parallaxing and scaling backgrounds. The moving mouths are cool too.
That's not even to mention gameplay. Tekken relies on gimmicks and hidden
stuff to keep a player interested, rather than VF's reliance on an almost
flawless engine. As for arcade Tekken 2 opponents, now that everyone's
memorized their preprogs, the damn thing plays like KI. Not that I don't
love Tekken 2, its in my tip four or five favorite 32-bit games ever, I
just think that any comparison on any level with VF2 (except perhaps
features or music) is ludicrous.
As for the Saturn port of FV looking good...what!? Yeah, it's got 3D
backgrounds at 60 fps with gouraud and light source shading, a first on
consoles, but it runs in low-res and the characters are made of, like, 70
polygons each. It's Nights and V-On! that'll graphically shut up Tekken 2
fans (Anybody seen the V-On! avi? Wow...), but if Namco gets their act
together, NOTHING'S gonna shut up Soul Edge fans(one would probably be
able to summarize 90% of all rgv sega posts with the words "Soul Edj iz
duh best gam ever!!!!!!!!! Sturnn SUGGZS!!!!!Sega fans can SUG MY DIC!").
SSI
James Arguello wrote:
<Deleted over 30 lines of useless quotes>
>
> I agree. I can't belive TSD 2 sells well in this country. Why must so
> many people in this country be so stupid?
What the hell are you talking about. You quoted the ENTIRE conversation
just to add the 2 sentences? Talk about stupid people. Quote what you
need. PLEASE.
DAVID69121
I agree in one way I can't say that Saturn is more powerful but I can say
that Sega has been the main company doing 3-D games now. It'll take a
while for other companies to really use Saturns full potential. I think
all these companies doing 3-D games for just PSX will turn heads when
they see NiGHTS and Sonic X-treme and VF3 etc. Get the new issue of
GameFan for July'96 it shows incredibly awsome pictures of
Scavengers"Scorcher" and a game like Sega Rally but better!!!!!!!!!
MY Opinions on the Saturn:
It has faster loading time but if you compare X-men well then saturn loses
in that catagory becuase they rushed it out
Graphics aren't as good as PSX because their is no Texture -mapping
Companies don't do great versions of PSX exclusives because it is
harder to program games on saturn than PSX and it's the companies first
time on the system
Saturns sound way better than PSX's
Saturns being supported by Sega all the way to the end
Sega has been in the industry for a long time too.
Saturn got the Titan for quicke excellent arcade conversions to the
Saturn
Greg Sewart
DAVID69121 wrote:
>
> I agree in one way I can't say that Saturn is more powerful but I can say
> that Sega has been the main company doing 3-D games now. It'll take a
> while for other companies to really use Saturns full potential.
I agree on this point. Hopefully some companies will start to catch up.
One thing is nice though, because Sega keeps upping the 3D benchmark on
the Saturn, it makes third parties strive to get better as well. I
mean, why would you release something that didn't look nearly as good as
the benchmark 3D game on that system.
I think
> all these companies doing 3-D games for just PSX will turn heads when
> they see NiGHTS and Sonic X-treme and VF3 etc. Get the new issue of
> GameFan for July'96 it shows incredibly awsome pictures of
> Scavengers"Scorcher" and a game like Sega Rally but better!!!!!!!!!
Exactly, I hope Scavenger is just a beginning of a long line of
compnanies taking advantage of the Saturn's power.
> MY Opinions on the Saturn:
> It has faster loading time but if you compare X-men well then saturn loses
> in that catagory becuase they rushed it out
I'll agree with the 'rushed it out' part, but what are you comparing it
to? The PS version? It doesn't exist, at least, I don't think it does.
> Graphics aren't as good as PSX because their is no Texture -mapping
Huh? Do you mean to say hardware light sourcing maybe? Almost all poly
games are texture mapped.
> Companies don't do great versions of PSX exclusives because it is
> harder to program games on saturn than PSX and it's the companies first
> time on the system
true.
> Saturns sound way better than PSX's
Supposedly true, but honestly, both system PCM sounds great.
> Saturns being supported by Sega all the way to the end
One great reason to own a Saturn.
>
> Sega has been in the industry for a long time too.
> Saturn got the Titan for quicke excellent arcade conversions to the
> Saturn
Now all tehy need is a few more great titles for that board.
Greg
"My hypocracy goes only so far."
-Val Kilmer
>
Dragonmaster Lou
david...@aol.com (DAVID69121) wrote:
> Graphics aren't as good as PSX because their is no Texture -mapping
Sorry, but the Saturn does indeed do texture mapping. How do you
think VF2 was done?
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VF2 does have a MUCH higher polygon count than TK2, because TK2
characters are gouraud shaded, wehich makes them look better with less
polygons. But watch out for Fighting Vipers for saturn, it's fully
light source shaded, and gouraud shaded. Also, it runs at 60 fps.
IT'S GONNA KICK!
Lee Banyard
Why do you all bother trying to quote tech specs at each other, when you all
obviously have little idea if what you're talking about
Phat Hong Tran
In article <4rf5ub$c...@arl-news-svc-5.compuserve.com>,
Sorry, but you don't know what Gouraud shading is. Most polygons in
TK2 are not Gouraud shaded.
And if VF2 has a higher polygon count, then why do limbs, hands, feet,
etc. have such boxy profiles compared to TK2?
As for FV, it's currently just an over-hyped piece of vapourware.
I'd wait until there's a demo with significant portions of the gameplay
completed before judging it.
Phat.
Michael Arguello
But you'll still hate it, right? :)
JD Rivwoo
pht...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Phat Hong Tran) wrote:
"As for FV, it's currently just an over-hyped piece of vapourware.
I'd wait until there's a demo with significant portions of the gameplay
completed before judging it.
Phat."
Funny, this is what PSX fans should do as well, yet any and all games
coming out for the PSX are hyped just as much if not more than Saturn
games.
I own a PSX and trust me, there are quite a few games that never did live
up to the advanced press, and really the PSX is not any better or worse
than the Saturn.
And with some of the games out for the Saturn now, maybe it is more
powerful overall than than the PSX.
It seems that ego's run way to rampant on these newsgroups.
JD
guapote
In article <4r8p9j$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, david...@aol.com says...
>
>I agree in one way I can't say that Saturn is more powerful but I can say
>that Sega has been the main company doing 3-D games now. It'll take a
>all these companies doing 3-D games for just PSX will turn heads when
>they see NiGHTS and Sonic X-treme and VF3 etc. Get the new issue of
>GameFan for July'96 it shows incredibly awsome pictures of
>Scavengers"Scorcher" and a game like Sega Rally but better!!!!!!!!!
>It has faster loading time but if you compare X-men well then saturn loses
>in that catagory becuase they rushed it out
>harder to program games on saturn than PSX and it's the companies first
>time on the system
>
> Saturn got the Titan for quicke excellent arcade conversions to the
>Saturn
>
gameday or faceoff or botn or nba live or showtime or a host of other
sports games?
Ed Giangrande
In <4rjfhl$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jdri...@aol.com (JD Rivwoo)
writes:
Both sides have hyped games out of proportion... all that really hurts
is the people who want to buy the games... Fightiung Vipers, from my
own views of the game, seems to look better than VF2... still somewhat
similar in 'look', but you do see improvements graphically... maybe it
won't live up to gameplay... but you can't tell that until you play it,
now can you?
James Arguello
Because those games are not coming out on Saturn, stupid.
Scott Spencer
guapote wrote:
> >
> If the Saturn is so powerful how come it can't play tripleplay 97 or
> gameday or faceoff or botn or nba live or showtime or a host of other
> sports games?
Same reason the PSX can't play NBA Action, World Series Baseball or Sega
Rally.
Andrew Ryan Chang
Ed Giangrande <tig...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Both sides have hyped games out of proportion... all that really hurts
>is the people who want to buy the games... Fightiung Vipers, from my
>own views of the game, seems to look better than VF2... still somewhat
>similar in 'look', but you do see improvements graphically... maybe it
>won't live up to gameplay... but you can't tell that until you play it,
>now can you?
Yes we can, because some of us have seen the arcade version.
There are flaws in the gameplay, such as infinite wall-bouncing juggles
and just a rather more lenient approach to move detection. The
characters themselves annoy me to no end- the skateboarder, the inline
skater, the guitar player, mall rat... bleah.
Positives include the massive freeze time after a pounce, which
punishes the overly pouncy players.
Overall, I really enjoy watching FV at the arcades, but as
regards this Saturn game, I kinda have to say that I wish there was a VF2
Remix rather than an FV at all. But now I'm just being a grump.
My original point was that arcade versions will at least
foreshadow the gameplay aspect of a game port, even if the sound and
graphics are not as sharp (remember SF for the SNES?) for the home
version.
--
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
Greg Sewart
guapote wrote:
> If the Saturn is so powerful how come it can't play tripleplay 97 or
> gameday or faceoff or botn or nba live or showtime or a host of other
> sports games?
I would say liscencing, wouldn't you? Was this a vain attempt to say
the Saturn is underpowered? Let's see, Triple Play, released by EA,
whoe release everything on the PS first. Isn't triple Play scheduled
for Saturn as well?
Gameday, Face Off, Showtime, all published by Sony, nuff said.
Nba Live, made by EA, explained above.
Please come up with some decent arguments next time. This is like
saying, 'The Saturn is underpowered because they only made Mario for the
N64.' Give me a break.
Greg
"When we specialize too much, we breed weakness."
-Ghost in the Shell
Saturn/Genesis/SegaCD
hulk
I hate writing a lot of stuff for PlayShit (if I want so I go to the toilet) but if
someone wants to learn the truth for the mighty Sega Saturn, read on!
I am with the times. All the PlayShit gamers are NOT! 90% of what Blake
said was b......t (crap if you prefer)!!! I do not care if you have
Saturn cause, anyway, you are just another PlayShit gamer. PlayShit has
"some good" games but Saturn has MUCH BETTER. I am not picking for a
fight (I am not a PlayShit gamer, that's why). As for how old I am...
Multiple 10x2 and you will get the point. As for my parents' computer...
They do not know anything about computers but I have TWO powerful, home
build, PCs.
MY TOP TEN LIST FOR SEGA SATURN (NOW)
-------------------------------------
1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SFA2)
2. NIGHWARRIORS: DARKSTALKERS' REVENGE (2 GAMES IN 1 CD-ROM: GREAT!)
3. X-MEN: CHILDREN OF THE ATOM (HMMM! GIVE ME MARVEL SUPER HEROES)
4. KING OF FIGHTERS 95 (I AM STARTING TO LIKE SNK)
5. GUARDIAN HEROES (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
6. VIRTUA FIGHTER 2 (TEKKEN 2? WHAT TEKKEN 2?)
7. PANZER DRAGOON 2 (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
8. SEGA RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP (MAYBE DAYTONA DELUXE WILL BE BETTER)
9. VIRTUA COP 1 (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
10. ULTIMATE MORTAL KOMBAT 3 (SONY 3 VS 'ULTIMATE' SEGA 3)
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MY TOP TEN LIST FOR SONY PLAYSTATION (NOW)
------------------------------------------
1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (SATURN's VERSION IS BETTER)
2. DARKSTALKERS (I AM PLAYING NIGHTWARRIORS)
3. RESIDENT EVIL (SATURN WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL)
4. LOADED (I WILL PLAY IT ON MY SATURN)
5. DOOM (PC DOOM WADs & VERSIONS ARE BETTER)
6. ALIEN TRILOGY (QUAKE WAITS AT THE CORNER...)
7. NEED FOR SPEED (PC VERSION IS BETTER)
8. RIDGE RACER REVOLUTION (SATURN's RALLY IS BETTER)
9. TEKKEN 2 (FIGHTING VIPERS BITES DEADLY)
10. MORTAL KOMBAT 3 (SATURN IS 'ULTIMATE'...)
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ALL THE FAKE WRITERS WILL BURN IN HELL FROM WHAT SEGA IS GOING TO DO IN GAME
INDUSTRY IN THE YEARS TO COME... BUT FAITHFUL GAMERS WILL HAVE FUN WITH YOUR
CRAP WORDS ABOUT SONY AND NINTENDO. ALSO, THEY WILL HAVE EVEN MORE FUN WITH
THE GAMES THAT SEGA WILL CREATE FOR THEM!!!
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DARE TO COMPARE?
----------------
0. SONY+NINTENDO VS SEGA (WHO IS THE BEST AT THE ARCADES)
1. TEKKEN 2 VS VIRTUA FIGHTER 2 (25 CRAP FIGHTERS VS 11 REAL ONES)
2. SOUL EDGE VS FIGHTING VIPERS (LOW-RES, 30 fps VS HIGH-RES, 60 fps)
3. WAR GODS VS VIRTUA FIGHTER 3 (A JOKE VS THE GOD OF 3D FIGHTERS)
4. ? VS LAST BRONX (WHERE IS THE COMPETITION?)
5. ? VS DEAD OR ALIVE (DEAD OR ALIVE? SONY IS DEAD...)
6. ? VS FIGHTING SONIC (FIGHTING SONY, MAYBE?)
7. ? VS VIRTUA FIGHTER KIDS(DEDICATED TO PLAYSHIT GAMERS)
8. TIME CRISIS VS VIRTUA COP 2 (STICK THE PEDAL, UP IN YOUR A..)
9. TOKYO WARS VS GUN BLADE NY (DRIVING VS FLYING)
10. ? VS VIRTUA ON: CYBER TROOPERS (COMPETITION?)
11. CRASH BANDIG. VS SONIC X-TREME (FEEL OUR PINS IN YOUR A..)
12. MARIO 64 VS NIGHTS (KEEP DREAMING MARIO...)
13. THE REST VS THE BEST (SONY+NINTENDO VS THE TOP ARCADE GAMES)
>> MAKE ME LAUGH!!! <<
PS.1. Sell your PlayShit or make it audio CD player (then again, it
might not be even useful for that purpose)
PS.2. Buy a Sony TV and play your Saturn on it
PS.3. I am not going to say anything else, for now... At the end of 1996
and 1997, Saturn's sales will speak!!!
PS.4. If someone wants a lot of info for SEGA SATURN, contact me!
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In article <31DE2C...@prometheus.hol.gr>,
hulk <hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
> MY TOP TEN LIST FOR SEGA SATURN (NOW)
> -------------------------------------
>1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SFA2)
>2. NIGHWARRIORS: DARKSTALKERS' REVENGE (2 GAMES IN 1 CD-ROM: GREAT!)
>3. X-MEN: CHILDREN OF THE ATOM (HMMM! GIVE ME MARVEL SUPER HEROES)
>4. KING OF FIGHTERS 95 (I AM STARTING TO LIKE SNK)
>5. GUARDIAN HEROES (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
Hey I'm starting to like this hulk guy :) We need more fanatical and
rabid Saturn followers like him. Go SATURN!!!! Kick Playshit and
N64's !@#@!$!!
Playshit... I'm starting to like the sound of that too. hehehe
-TK
Ed Giangrande
I
>I hate writing a lot of stuff for PlayShit (if I want so I go to the
toilet) but if
>someone wants to learn the truth for the mighty Sega Saturn, read on!
>
>I am with the times. All the PlayShit gamers are NOT! 90% of what
Blake
>said was b......t (crap if you prefer)!!! I do not care if you have
>Saturn cause, anyway, you are just another PlayShit gamer. PlayShit
has
>"some good" games but Saturn has MUCH BETTER. I am not picking for a
>fight (I am not a PlayShit gamer, that's why). As for how old I am...
>Multiple 10x2 and you will get the point. As for my parents'
computer...
>They do not know anything about computers but I have TWO powerful,
home
>build, PCs.
I am not a PSX owner but still I think you are somewhat unfair in your
Saturn to PSX comparison on the lists below.. I think for starters you
have WAY too many fighting games on the lists... I mean SFA IMOP
souldn't even be in the top ten of all fighters let alone all games...
Night Warriors was much cooler IMOP. You left out games like NHL
Faceoff and Gameday on the PSX side which up until NHL Powerplay on
Saturn had no comparison. PSX also might not have 'your favorite games'
but there are other games for the system like Wipeout that you also
left off the list. Wipeout, no matter how you look at it is a good
game... Not to mention most of the games you mentioned on both systems
will be outdated in a few months in lieu of games like Wipeout XL, VC2,
Nights, Crash Bandicoot, etc... There are good games on both sides, not
to mention there is no guarentee that Saturn versions of Loaded or
Resident Evil (two games I personally feel were slightly overated) will
be better, and not just port jobs like Wipeout and TSD... oh yeah...
speaking of TSD what about TSD 2 on PSX... or even TSD URA on Saturn
which is over 50% done... how about Manx TT... well I hope you see my
point. Right now all I care about is playing NHL Powerplay and any
other great game I can get my hands on... not to mention how is NFS on
Saturn?? Saw it today.. cost $59 though :(... too much for me
especially with Daytona Circuit comming out soon enough and Manx TT on
the way as well....
> MY TOP TEN LIST FOR SEGA SATURN (NOW)
> -------------------------------------
>1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SFA2)
>2. NIGHWARRIORS: DARKSTALKERS' REVENGE (2 GAMES IN 1 CD-ROM:
GREAT!)
>3. X-MEN: CHILDREN OF THE ATOM (HMMM! GIVE ME MARVEL SUPER
HEROES)
>4. KING OF FIGHTERS 95 (I AM STARTING TO LIKE SNK)
>5. GUARDIAN HEROES (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
>6. VIRTUA FIGHTER 2 (TEKKEN 2? WHAT TEKKEN 2?)
>7. PANZER DRAGOON 2 (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
>8. SEGA RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP (MAYBE DAYTONA DELUXE WILL
BE BETTER)
>9. VIRTUA COP 1 (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
>10. ULTIMATE MORTAL KOMBAT 3 (SONY 3 VS 'ULTIMATE' SEGA
3)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
>
> MY TOP TEN LIST FOR SONY PLAYSTATION (NOW)
> ------------------------------------------
>1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (SATURN's VERSION IS
BETTER)
>2. DARKSTALKERS (I AM PLAYING
NIGHTWARRIORS)
>3. RESIDENT EVIL (SATURN WILL HAVE THAT AS
WELL)
>4. LOADED (I WILL PLAY IT ON MY
SATURN)
>5. DOOM (PC DOOM WADs & VERSIONS
ARE BETTER)
>6. ALIEN TRILOGY (QUAKE WAITS AT THE
CORNER...)
>7. NEED FOR SPEED (PC VERSION IS BETTER)
>8. RIDGE RACER REVOLUTION (SATURN's RALLY IS BETTER)
>9. TEKKEN 2 (FIGHTING VIPERS BITES
DEADLY)
>10. MORTAL KOMBAT 3 (SATURN IS 'ULTIMATE'...)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
>ALL THE FAKE WRITERS WILL BURN IN HELL FROM WHAT SEGA IS GOING TO DO
IN GAME
>INDUSTRY IN THE YEARS TO COME... BUT FAITHFUL GAMERS WILL HAVE FUN
WITH YOUR
>CRAP WORDS ABOUT SONY AND NINTENDO. ALSO, THEY WILL HAVE EVEN MORE FUN
WITH
>THE GAMES THAT SEGA WILL CREATE FOR THEM!!!
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
>
> DARE TO COMPARE?
> ----------------
>0. SONY+NINTENDO VS SEGA (WHO IS THE BEST AT THE ARCADES)
>1. TEKKEN 2 VS VIRTUA FIGHTER 2 (25 CRAP FIGHTERS VS 11 REAL
ONES)
>2. SOUL EDGE VS FIGHTING VIPERS (LOW-RES, 30 fps VS HIGH-RES,
60 fps)
Well I don't care for either game personally...
>3. WAR GODS VS VIRTUA FIGHTER 3 (A JOKE VS THE GOD OF 3D
FIGHTERS)
VF3 is only out in arcades being tested.. might want to hold comments
on it till you see it on this side of the shores...
>4. ? VS LAST BRONX (WHERE IS THE COMPETITION?)
>5. ? VS DEAD OR ALIVE (DEAD OR ALIVE? SONY IS
DEAD...)
>6. ? VS FIGHTING SONIC (FIGHTING SONY, MAYBE?)
>7. ? VS VIRTUA FIGHTER KIDS(DEDICATED TO PLAYSHIT GAMERS)
Well I personally believe that these games are just too many mediocre
to decent efforts by Sega arcades... I would have rather seen them get
of VF3 earlier than work on these games... Though LB by AM3 looks
good... however I never see it in teh arcades...
>8. TIME CRISIS VS VIRTUA COP 2 (STICK THE PEDAL, UP IN YOUR A..)
>9. TOKYO WARS VS GUN BLADE NY (DRIVING VS FLYING)
>10. ? VS VIRTUA ON: CYBER TROOPERS (COMPETITION?)
Well Cyber Sled was first by Namco which is somewhat similar...
In all of the above mention gamesyou are comparing Sega in teh arcade
to everyone else... fact is no one has ever disputed Sega's very likely
claim to arcade gaming over the last few years starting with Virtua
Racing and VF... But Saturn isn't a Model 2 Arcade system... if it was
then you might have a point.
>11. CRASH BANDIG. VS SONIC X-TREME (FEEL OUR PINS IN YOUR A..)
>12. MARIO 64 VS NIGHTS (KEEP DREAMING MARIO...)
Shouldn't we really wait to see the 'cleaned up' US versions of the
games... They are ALL very good games... sorta unfair to justr compare
them unfairly in a Saturn bias manner...
Ed Giangrande
In <4rmnbt$h...@crl.crl.com> teh...@crl.com (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>
>In article <31DE2C...@prometheus.hol.gr>,
>hulk <hu...@prometheus.hol.gr> wrote:
>> -------------------------------------
>>1. STREET FIGHTER ALPHA: WARRIORS' DREAMS (I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE
SFA2)
>>2. NIGHWARRIORS: DARKSTALKERS' REVENGE (2 GAMES IN 1 CD-ROM:
GREAT!)
>>3. X-MEN: CHILDREN OF THE ATOM (HMMM! GIVE ME MARVEL
SUPER HEROES)
>>4. KING OF FIGHTERS 95 (I AM STARTING TO LIKE
SNK)
>>5. GUARDIAN HEROES (ANY SONY COMPETITION?)
>
>rabid Saturn followers like him. Go SATURN!!!! Kick Playshit and
>N64's !@#@!$!!
>
>Playshit... I'm starting to like the sound of that too. hehehe
>
>-TK
>
Well yeah, but he doesn't exactly help sell Saturn to people who want
an honest answer.. then again I have met other PSX rabid owners working
in stores selling teh system... Though you might want to clean it upo a
bit... some suggestions...
Playsomething else
PlaySaturn
PayStoresoff
Playsuicide
Pray4U
P.U.station
PLEAGUEstation
PLEH!station
oh well any others... I'm sure someone will feel obligated to do some
with Saturn like SUCKtern, or SaTERD.. well I hope now you see I have
some sense of humor about my own system as well...
Jenn Dolari
>If the Saturn is so powerful how come it can't play tripleplay 97 or
>gameday or faceoff or botn or nba live or showtime or a host of other
>sports games?
For the same reason it couldn't do MK3? They don't have the licenses?
Jenn
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