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Jameson Shawn Daugherty

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Sep 19, 1993, 11:33:10 PM9/19/93
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Hi,
I bought SF2 Special Chapionship Edition at Babbages on Saturday, the
day that they got it in. Overall I was somewhat disappointed. I don't
have anything specific to say, but I decided to take it back. Here are
the main reasons:
1. The SNES version is visually (grapically) and soundwise, much
better. All of the voices are somewhat muddy and the grapics aren't as
sharp.
2. Can't effectively play with the old joystick, which brings me to #3,
3. The price: $71.99 plus tax. Plus, to play the game the way it was
meant to be played, you NEED to buy two six button joysticks, which are
$20 each.

On the plus side, gameplay itself waas good. The tournament mode is
somewhat confusing (I didn't try it). I'm pretty sure 4 people can't
play at once though. I used the money that I got back to buy Shinobi 3
($51.99) and Global Gladiators($19.99). Both games are very good and
are recommended. I don't recommend SF2 unless you can get it for $60 or
less. I'm sorry if this message is disappointing. Please don't flame
me, I just wanted to add my opinion about this highly anticipated game.
Shawn

Teh Kao Yang

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Sep 20, 1993, 12:44:49 AM9/20/93
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In article <ogbGFqu00...@andrew.cmu.edu> Jameson Shawn Daugherty <jd...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Hi,
> I bought SF2 Special Chapionship Edition at Babbages on Saturday, the
>day that they got it in. Overall I was somewhat disappointed. I don't
>have anything specific to say, but I decided to take it back. Here are

>2. Can't effectively play with the old joystick, which brings me to #3,


>3. The price: $71.99 plus tax. Plus, to play the game the way it was
>meant to be played, you NEED to buy two six button joysticks, which are
>$20 each.

Do you have the SNES SF2:Turbo already? If you do, then I could understand
you taking it back. The SF2:SCE is almost a carbon copy of the SNES version,
there is no reason to get both. But if you don't have the SNES one, I would
recommend you try both before deciding.

-TK


Shih-ta Peng

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Sep 20, 1993, 6:00:09 AM9/20/93
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Jameson Shawn Daugherty <jd...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>1. The SNES version is visually (grapically) and soundwise, much
>better.

The graphics is actually as good as the SNES version. The only thing is
the noticeable lack of color on a few of the background (Spain comes
to mind as one). The biggest disappointment comes from the retention of
the letterboxing format. I wonder what DHGF meant when they said "As you
can see, it is now full screen ..." In anycase, it looks incredibly good
for the most part.
The music is OK but sounds quite synthesized. I know they could have
done a better job given the kind of BGM SOR2 had. Some are better
renditions of the original than others. The music in Sagat's stage,
however, is way off.

> All of the voices are somewhat muddy and the grapics aren't as
>sharp.

Voices? That's probably the best they can do to in order to have simultaneous
music and speech. I never did expect much in this department and that's
exactly what I got. At least all the voices are there, including Balrog's
count in the TAP. Some of the sound effects, such as when characters fall to
the ground sound pretty good.

Graphics aren't as sharp? I have both and I can't tell the difference.
Maybe the increase in colors is fooling your eyes into thinking it has
higher resolution.

>2. Can't effectively play with the old joystick, which brings me to #3,

This is not an issue for me since many new games will take advantage of the
6-button pad anyways. Therefore, I don't consider the purchase of the pad
as just to play SF2. Of course, I've been putting off the purchase of
my broken 3-button one for quite a while.

>On the plus side, gameplay itself waas good.

In fact SF2:SCE controls, and plays better than the SNES:HF. There are less
slowdowns, besides the intentional ones, here than the SNES version. The
response is better. The animation also seems to be smoother, even at the
highest speed. But, there is a glimmer of flickering to parts of a sprite
in rare occasions.

>The tournament mode is
>somewhat confusing (I didn't try it).

It's not only confusing, but stupid, and may I add down right stupid.
Basically, its a "feature," if you can call it that, that's not worth
mentioning.

The one question that really bother me is ....


WHERE THE HELL DID THE 24 MEGS GO??

First, MK is the same size in both versions. Yet, the Genesis version missing
tons of voices. Second, SF2 is nearly identical to the SNES version. Yet, the
SNES version is 4 Megs smaller. Is the 68000 code that much bigger??

STP

Shih-ta Peng

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Sep 20, 1993, 6:18:37 AM9/20/93
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Compare the traffic first day of release of MK to that of SF2:SCE I'd say the
Street Fighters days are numbered. It's incredible what lacking of marketing
can do to silence a product, even a game as good as SF2 for the Genesis.
No wonder Atari never had a chance with the Lynx.

STP

P.S. SF2:SCE maybe the best game out there for the Genesis, but still a little
disappointing considering the considerable delay.

Ryan J. Kucera

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Sep 20, 1993, 1:23:51 PM9/20/93
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I've been playing SF2 since Sunday for hours at a time. I've played the
original SF2 on the SNES and thought it was ok, then played the new
version and liked it a lot. Now I've got the Genesis version, and I think
I like even better than the SNES version. Gameplay is really smooth and
the graphics look excellent. Sound isn't too bad either. Overall it is a
fun game and well worth the money.


Ryan
kuce...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Shih-ta Peng

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Sep 20, 1993, 2:23:32 PM9/20/93
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kuce...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J. Kucera) writes:

> Now I've got the Genesis version, and I think
>I like even better than the SNES version. Gameplay is really smooth and
>the graphics look excellent.

Agreed! The gameplay in the Genesis version is awesome. It feels more
like the arcade game than either one of the SNES versions as far as
gameplay is concerned.

>Sound isn't too bad either.

Well....the sound isn't bad ......for Genesis.

> Overall it is a
>fun game and well worth the money.

Well worth the money if you don't already own SNES:HF. The games are
not signicantly better or different to warrant shelling out another
$70+. Then again, I really didn't think moving up from the classic
to HF on the SNES was worth the huge chunk of change either.

STP

Marty Chinn

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Sep 20, 1993, 7:35:16 PM9/20/93
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kuce...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J. Kucera) writes:

If you are talking about Street Fighter 2 the orriginal version, then
there isn't much to compare to. What you have to do is compare it to
Turbo, which even myself think is a lot better than the original. In fact
i don't even like playing the original any more.

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The Land of Garg BBS -- +1 408 378-5108

Ralph Barbagallo

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Sep 21, 1993, 8:22:56 PM9/21/93
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What's so "super" about Super SFII CE on the Gen?

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[ Amiga 4000/030, Amiga 500, Commodore 64, Atari 800XL, Atari 2600, 7800, ]
[ Lynx, Sega Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, NES, SNES, Game Boy, NEO GEO]
[ TurboGrafx-16/CDROM, Odyssey 500, ColecoVision, Vectrex, Intellivision... ]

Shih-ta Peng

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Sep 22, 1993, 3:43:35 AM9/22/93
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nug...@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) writes:


> What's so "super" about Super SFII CE on the Gen?

Isn't it obvious. The title screen is now politically correct, replacing
the black guy being beaten up with a white guy!!!

8-)

In all seriousness, it's called "Super" because it also includes
Hyper Fighting in addition to the regular Championship mode.

STP

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