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tobor
ncc1...@algonet.se (Anders Erlandsson) wrote:
>>> Top 10 Games Consoles of all time...
>>>
>>> 1 Sony PlayStation
>>> 2 Super Nintendo
>>> 3 Nintendo 64
>>> 4 Sega Saturn
><cut>
>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a Atari2600
>or colecovision etc..
I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
Some of them even had one of those Telestar or Coleco black and white
Pong game systems (I can't remember what the hell it was).
What you're saying is that most people on the net now is younger than
20 years old. I *really* doubt that.
Cheers,
Ken.
tobor
ncc1...@algonet.se (Anders Erlandsson) wrote:
>tobor wrote:
>>>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
>>>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>>>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
>>>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>>I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
>>Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
>>people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
>It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
>then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
Oh, that's right. What was I thinking. Did I say I owned a 2600? I
thought you meant a DOG. That's right, it's so easy to mix up "Atari
2600" with "dog".
Of course I _really_ had one. Are you saying that I am lying?? Do you
know how many years that machine lasted? I said I owned one, I didn't
say I tested the prototype!
>Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
>vectrex.
Well too bad for them. Perhaps they were living on farms or fishing
villages when they were kids.
LOOK. The point that the gentleman was trying to make earlier was that
the Atari 2600 was one of the best video games systems to come out,
and he didn't understand why it wasn't in the list. Then YOU said that
most people on the newgroups were too young to have owned one. MY
point was that it was not that long ago that people owned Atari
2600's, THEREFORE you are implying that the majority of people using
newsgroups are in their midtwenties or under.
Are you saying that people who used the Atari 2600 are 75 years old,
and they are no longer coherent to use newsgroups, where children
between the ages of 2 and 16 are typing away everyday?
This whole survey was biased and not well sampled. I disapprove when
amateurs attempt to do the job that many professionals spend years
educating themselves for. Just becuase one can ask questions and write
down the answer, that doesn't qualify him/her to actually know what to
DO with that information.
Cheers,
Ken.
Paul S. Pavelich
tobor wrote:
>
> ncc1...@algonet.se (Anders Erlandsson) wrote:
> >>> Top 10 Games Consoles of all time...
> >>>
> >>> 1 Sony PlayStation
> >>> 2 Super Nintendo
> >>> 3 Nintendo 64
> >>> 4 Sega Saturn
> ><cut>
The list isn't flawed it's only put together by individuals who, having
not had the advantage of age & wisdom, but NEVER got to see REAL gaming
systems. One can tell from the whiny, "my system is better than yours",
"____________(put the system of choice here) SUCKS!!!! (or SUXS!!!!!)"
that the vast MAJORITY of posters to ANY of the Video Game Groups are
mainly Little Kids using Mom & Pop's, their School's or older
Sibling's Internet accounts to throw drivel,flames,obscenities or
anything BUT useful information. Most can't be kind to one another, help
out when they ask questions or are in need of any assistance. They take
what they read in Video Game Mags (I myself subscribe to MANY) as
Gospell Truth & then try to spew out facts & figures about frame
rates,video resolution,32-bit/64-bit technologies ad nauseum. Lighten
up! They are VIDEO GAME SYSTEMS! They're to ENTERTAIN YOU not make or
break your life. Whatever you like to do for recreation---DO IT! Don't
make a life or death issue out of it! Cos when all is said &
done....whoevers got the best system or is the best player don't mean
SQUAT!!!
Live your life to the fullest & be excellent to each other (remember
Bill & Ted?)
Pavex
Dustin Wehmeyer
Just to let you know, I'm 22 and I had an Intellivision (2 actually, a
ugly brown one that was first, then a much cooler white/beige one), my
step-brother who is the same age had an Atari 2600.
> dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu (Napalm-Rabbit) wrote in article
<53ruls$d...@netnews.upenn.edu>...
> Anders Erlandsson (ncc1...@algonet.se) wrote:
> : tobor wrote:
>
> : >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the
Atari
> : >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>
> : >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have
had a
> : >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>
> Damn, this confirms my suspicions all along. I've been having sparring
> debates on game system technology with 10 year olds! :P
>
> : >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
> : >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
> : >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
>
> : It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about
5-6
> : years old then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
>
> What the hell are you smokin' man? I'm a 19 year old jr in college and I
> remember the 2600 *quite well.* Games I had were combat, seaquest, pac
> man, river raid, maze craze, yars revenge, jungle hunt, pitfall, spider
> fighter holy cow I could go on for about another 100. Mind you this
> wasn't passed down from an older sibling...we actually *bought* these
> games in the stores I distinctly remember the cardboard boxes. AND I can
> describe to you each finishing sequence of each game, and if you'd put
me in
> front of a system right now I could probably beat it in my sleep because
> I played it so much as a kid, plus there are just some hand/button
joystick
> techinques that are forever ingrained in my brain. That's why I think
> video games for younger kids are soooo important. It not only teaches
> them this natural ability for hand-eye coordination, but they become so
> technically proficient without much difficulty later in life. I could
even
> hum you the song/sound effects from each game...hehehe...:)
>
> How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
> younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC,
Texas
> instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car
Wars,
> and R.O.B the robot.
>
> : Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600,
intellivision or
> : vectrex.
>
> That's because they're probably all idiots and/or from europe.
>
> Ataria 16-17 years ago? Uhhh...Nope. Maybe the first one made, but
certainly
> not its era. I'd like to think I was older than 3 at the time. Sorry,
but
> that statement you made on our validity was insulting, to say the least.
> Next time try to check your sources first.
>
> D.T.
>
> --
> dtng...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
> dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu
> http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dtnguyen
>
>
Anders Erlandsson
tobor wrote:
>>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
>>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
>>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
>Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
>people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
vectrex.
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Jason Brian Chapa
On 13 Oct 1996 12:09:48 GMT, ncc1...@algonet.se (Anders Erlandsson)
wrote:
I just recently turned 19, and I remember having a 2600 very vividly.
It was a great system.
Jason Brian Chapa Jason...@mohican.mwsu.edu
Jason...@cyberstation.net http://www.cyberstation.net/~jasonchapa
James McArthur
G'Day Anders Erlandsson, you wrote:
: tobor wrote:
: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
: >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
: It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
: then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
: Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
: vectrex.
I'm only 19, but one of my mates had a 2600 passed down from his older
brother; we used to have huge fights over whether my C64 was better then
his "games machine" :)
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Napalm-Rabbit
: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
Damn, this confirms my suspicions all along. I've been having sparring
debates on game system technology with 10 year olds! :P
: >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
: It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6
: years old then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
What the hell are you smokin' man? I'm a 19 year old jr in college and I
remember the 2600 *quite well.* Games I had were combat, seaquest, pac
man, river raid, maze craze, yars revenge, jungle hunt, pitfall, spider
fighter holy cow I could go on for about another 100. Mind you this
wasn't passed down from an older sibling...we actually *bought* these
games in the stores I distinctly remember the cardboard boxes. AND I can
describe to you each finishing sequence of each game, and if you'd put me in
front of a system right now I could probably beat it in my sleep because
I played it so much as a kid, plus there are just some hand/button joystick
techinques that are forever ingrained in my brain. That's why I think
video games for younger kids are soooo important. It not only teaches
them this natural ability for hand-eye coordination, but they become so
technically proficient without much difficulty later in life. I could even
hum you the song/sound effects from each game...hehehe...:)
How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC, Texas
instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
and R.O.B the robot.
: Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
: vectrex.
That's because they're probably all idiots and/or from europe.
Anders Erlandsson
tobor wrote:
>>It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6
>>years old then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
>thought you meant a DOG. That's right, it's so easy to mix up "Atari
>2600" with "dog".
Yeah! For you maybe ;)
>Of course I _really_ had one. Are you saying that I am lying?? Do you
No.
>know how many years that machine lasted? I said I owned one, I didn't
>say I tested the prototype!
Hm, i can't remember it after 84. I just remember everyone playing it pre 80's.
>Well too bad for them. Perhaps they were living on farms or fishing
>villages when they were kids.
I think they lived in a box, eating mud for breakfast.
>2600's, THEREFORE you are implying that the majority of people using
>newsgroups are in their midtwenties or under.
Most of the time it seems so, especially when you look at all crap postings.
>Are you saying that people who used the Atari 2600 are 75 years old,
Yep :| I'm not that old though, i'm only 70 ;-=)>
>between the ages of 2 and 16 are typing away everyday?
Yes, that would be nice ;) Then we could read even more dadadablublu...
End of discussion.
George Noel
In article <53ruls$d...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
Napalm-Rabbit <dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu> wrote:
>Anders Erlandsson (ncc1...@algonet.se) wrote:
>: tobor wrote:
>
>: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
>: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>
>: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
>: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>
>: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
>: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
>
>
>remember the 2600 *quite well.* Games I had were combat, seaquest, pac
>man, river raid, maze craze, yars revenge, jungle hunt, pitfall, spider
>fighter holy cow I could go on for about another 100. Mind you this
Bezerk, Asteroids, Missle Command etc..
>How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
>younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC, Texas
I woned the VIC-20 as well as the other systems I mentioned in my last
post.
>instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
>and R.O.B the robot.
I didn't like the TRS-80... a friend had one.
Someone else mentioned the Odyssey and Odyssey 2.. never liked these
systems either.. my next door neighbour had this. He also went on to buy
the Commodore 16.. never could understand his taste.. he got the Commodore
part right but..
>D.T.
>
>--
>dtng...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
>dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu
>http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dtnguyen
-=*George*=-
Chris Sweitzer
: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
: >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
: It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
: then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
: Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
: vectrex.
I'm 21 and I used to play the old Atari breakout/pinball game. I also had an
old pong game (also had squash/hockey/tennis). I got my first computer when I
was 5 (Apple II+), but I had used the Apple II they had at the library near my
house even before that. It's not that rare.
Chris
Samuel Hart
On 13 Oct 1996, Anders Erlandsson wrote:
> tobor wrote:
>
> >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
> >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
>
> >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
> >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>
> >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
> >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
> >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
>
> It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
> then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
>
> Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
> vectrex.
The 2600 was extremely popular in the 70s and early 80s. It outsold all
of the other ones, as a matter of fact (which could be attributed to it's
impressive supporting game company base.) The 2600 actually precluded both
the Intellivision and Vectrex by several years, and by the time those two
systems were coming out we were entering into the period between 82 and
86 when home video games were less popular (due to the very limited memory
that ROM cartridges offered at that time.)
While the Intellivision was still moderately popular, the Vectrex was not
because of its high price ($199 was a lot to pay for a video game system
in those days!) Both systems do out-perform the 2600, but they didn't
really have the game base to compete.
If you want more info on these systems (and specific dates) then check out:
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~brownde/museum
It is one of my favorite sites and really does the history of these
systems justice [for the better part! :) ]
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Sam Hart ha...@physics.arizona.edu
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KABOOM!
On 14 Oct 1996, George Noel wrote:
> In article <53ruls$d...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
> Napalm-Rabbit <dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu> wrote:
> >Anders Erlandsson (ncc1...@algonet.se) wrote:
<snip>
> >How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
> >younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC, Texas
>
> I woned the VIC-20 as well as the other systems I mentioned in my last
> post.
>
> >instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
> >and R.O.B the robot.
>
<snip>
I remember the loading time for the games on the VIC-20 where you had to
wait for 2 min to play for 45 sec (more depending on skills). Hrmmp...and
people complain about the load times now-a-days. BTW, can anyone recall
the name for that puzzle game where you maneuver your snakes to cut off
the path of the computer's snakes?
George Noel
In article <53tijk$v...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>,
George Noel <gn...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> wrote:
>the time also.. the "Have you played Atari today?" ones (my favourtie
>jingle for a games system other then the "I adore my 64" commercials).
I should have said "game system/computer system" as I wouldn't want to
make the C64 out to be JUST a "games system". :)
-=*George*=-
George Noel
In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.961014...@rac8.wam.umd.edu>,
KABOOM! <wh...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>
>
>On 14 Oct 1996, George Noel wrote:
>
>> In article <53ruls$d...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
>> Napalm-Rabbit <dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu> wrote:
>> >Anders Erlandsson (ncc1...@algonet.se) wrote:
>
><snip>
>> >How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
>> >younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC, Texas
>>
>> post.
>>
>> >instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
>> >and R.O.B the robot.
>>
><snip>
>
>I remember the loading time for the games on the VIC-20 where you had to
>wait for 2 min to play for 45 sec (more depending on skills). Hrmmp...and
That's only if you used the data casette, cartridges were different. I
never owned the disk drive for the VIC 20 or a modem for it either.
-=*George*=-
Anders Erlandsson
Chris Sweitzer wrote:
>: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
>: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
>I'm 21 and I used to play the old Atari breakout/pinball game. I also had an
>old pong game (also had squash/hockey/tennis). I got my first computer when
>I was 5 (Apple II+), but I had used the Apple II they had at the library near
>my house even before that. It's not that rare.
OK, OK, OOOK!!! I take back all i said. It looks like i was wrong. Please do not
respond to this more.
Peter Beck
: : Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
: : vectrex.
: That's because they're probably all idiots and/or from europe.
Oit! I'm from Europe, and I remember the 2600 perfectly well thank you.
And I think it should have been in the top ten games consoles too.
Samuel Hart
On 15 Oct 1996, Zsolt Szabo wrote:
> In article <53r4h7$6...@pellew.ntu.edu.au>,
> James McArthur <jam...@it.ntu.edu.au> wrote:
>
> >I'm only 19, but one of my mates had a 2600 passed down from his older
> >brother; we used to have huge fights over whether my C64 was better then
> >his "games machine" :)
> >
>
> The C64 is FAR better than the 2600. Not just hardware-wise; it also had
> much better games.
Except that the C64 wasn't competing with the 2600. It actually came out
much later than the 2600 and it was originally a computer (competing with
the old Atari XL series.) Comparing the 2600 with the C64 would be like
comparing an 8-bit NES or SMS with a 16-bit Genesis or SNES. So naturally
the C64 would beat the socks off of the 2600, it was from a later era.
Paul
Zsolt Szabo wrote:
> The C64 is FAR better than the 2600. Not just hardware-wise; it also had
> much better games.
Yeah, but the 2600 was very innovative: after all, it managed to create 99
variations of Space Invaders! Talk about overkill... :)
--
Regards, Paul (p...@fl.net.au)
deng...@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us
>Except that the C64 wasn't competing with the 2600. It actually came out
>much later than the 2600 and it was originally a computer (competing with
>the old Atari XL series.) Comparing the 2600 with the C64 would be like
>comparing an 8-bit NES or SMS with a 16-bit Genesis or SNES. So naturally
>the C64 would beat the socks off of the 2600, it was from a later era.
>
>Sam Hart>
In the 8 bit days, The Atari 2600 game machine was to the Atari 400 computer
what the CD32 game machine is to the Amiga 1200 today. The guts of both
machines were identical and the 2600 had a cartridge slot and the 400 had a
membrane keyboard. The Atari 800 was the More capable machine and it had a
real keyboard and som more ports for expansion. Jay Miner designed the custom
chip set for these three machines and they were technologically superior to
the C64 VIC/SID chip architecture but Commodore won the battle because of
superior "MARKETING" which in today's retrospective is simply amazing!
The point, calling the 2600 technology older and inferior to the C64 is not
an informed view. I've NEVER owned either system so don't flame me. I speak
from a knowledge of both systems. My A1000 was my first Commodore product
and I've never owned an Atari hardware product.
Greg
Ken Small
The Atari 400 WAN NOT a 2600 with a keyboard-- it was much more
sophisticated. The Atari 5200 was essentially a 400 without a
keyboard.
--
Ken Small If the Psychic Friend's Network is really psychic,
kens...@mcs.com how come they don't call you?
Magic 8-BALL sez: Better not tell you now
Samuel Hart
The 2600 wasn't just a big hit in America, it was a big hit all over the
world! It's too bad that there are so many ignorant people here in
America who delight in calling those from another country "idiots".
(By the way, what does "Oit" mean, exactly?)
Samuel Hart
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, KABOOM! wrote:
>
>
> On 14 Oct 1996, George Noel wrote:
>
> > In article <53ruls$d...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
> > Napalm-Rabbit <dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu> wrote:
> > >Anders Erlandsson (ncc1...@algonet.se) wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > >How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
> > >younger and *I* remember it? I also remember using the Commodore VIC, Texas
> >
> > I woned the VIC-20 as well as the other systems I mentioned in my last
> > post.
> >
> > >instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
> > >and R.O.B the robot.
> >
> <snip>
>
> I remember the loading time for the games on the VIC-20 where you had to
> wait for 2 min to play for 45 sec (more depending on skills). Hrmmp...and
> people complain about the load times now-a-days. BTW, can anyone recall
> the name for that puzzle game where you maneuver your snakes to cut off
> the path of the computer's snakes?
There were so many rip-offs of that type of game, I have a hard time
remembering the original. But I think that it might have been called
simply "Snakes."
Plus, I think it's funny for us "old-timer" gamers to use such a
stereotypical sentence as "I remember when I had to wait 2 minutes for a
game to load!" Even if it is true! (My favorite tape game was Dimension X
for the Atari computers, and it took a good ten minutes to load with my
old 410 drive! Then sometimes it would crash halfway through, and I'd
have to start all over!)
deng...@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us
You are absolutely correct. I made a mistake. It was the 5200 I was remembering
and not the 2600. Sorry for any inconvenience it caused.
The statement about the computers, C64 Atari400/88 were nonetheless correct.
Greg
George Noel
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.96101...@soliton.physics.arizona.edu>,
Samuel Hart <ha...@soliton.physics.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>
>On 15 Oct 1996, Zsolt Szabo wrote:
>
>> In article <53r4h7$6...@pellew.ntu.edu.au>,
>> James McArthur <jam...@it.ntu.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm only 19, but one of my mates had a 2600 passed down from his older
>> >brother; we used to have huge fights over whether my C64 was better then
>> >his "games machine" :)
>> >
>>
>> much better games.
>
>much later than the 2600 and it was originally a computer (competing with
>the old Atari XL series.) Comparing the 2600 with the C64 would be like
>comparing an 8-bit NES or SMS with a 16-bit Genesis or SNES. So naturally
>the C64 would beat the socks off of the 2600, it was from a later era.
What ever happened to game system/computer system jingles?
I personally like the "I adore my C64" jingle overall for a computer/game
system but my second favorite for a game system alone would be the Atari
"Have you played Atari today?" jingle.
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>Sam Hart ha...@physics.arizona.edu
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-=*George*=-
Gosseyn/Fabrice Kuchta
In article <53r4h7$6...@pellew.ntu.edu.au> jam...@it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) writes:
>From: jam...@it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur)
>Subject: Re: ALL TIME COMPUTER CHARTS-------------------Read..Now!!!---------------
>Date: 13 Oct 1996 16:14:31 GMT
>G'Day Anders Erlandsson, you wrote:
>: tobor wrote:
>: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
>: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
YES, THE 2600 WAS GREAT !
>: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
>: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
I AM 23 YEARS OLD. I remember when my parents bought the 2600. It was at an
exposition in '79 or '80. And I remember playing to "Combat" or
"Space Invader" with arround 120 different playmodes.
>: >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
>: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
>: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
>: It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
>: then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
>: Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
>: vectrex.
I AM 23 AND I REMEMBER !!!
>I'm only 19, but one of my mates had a 2600 passed down from his older
>brother; we used to have huge fights over whether my C64 was better then
>his "games machine" :)
>: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Samuel Hart
On 16 Oct 1996, George Noel wrote:
> In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.96101...@soliton.physics.arizona.edu>,
> Samuel Hart <ha...@soliton.physics.arizona.edu> wrote:
> >On 15 Oct 1996, Zsolt Szabo wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The C64 is FAR better than the 2600. Not just hardware-wise; it also had
> >> much better games.
> >
> >Except that the C64 wasn't competing with the 2600. It actually came out
> >much later than the 2600 and it was originally a computer (competing with
> >the old Atari XL series.) Comparing the 2600 with the C64 would be like
> >comparing an 8-bit NES or SMS with a 16-bit Genesis or SNES. So naturally
> >the C64 would beat the socks off of the 2600, it was from a later era.
>
> What ever happened to game system/computer system jingles?
>
> I personally like the "I adore my C64" jingle overall for a computer/game
> system but my second favorite for a game system alone would be the Atari
> "Have you played Atari today?" jingle.
My point was only that the 2600 was a game system specifically (despite
various attempts by many companies to do otherwise.) The C64 was more of
a computer (although it did have great games, it still had a lot of
productivity software.)
By the way, you asked what happened to game system/computer jingles?
Well, for that matter, what happened to game system/computers? These days
there seems to be vehement opposition in the computer industry to label
any system a "game/computer" system. I personally think the game aspect
is a neat "extra" for the system. Sure, we all know that you can get
great games for a computer, but the computer companies don't really
advertise that (not like they used to, anyway.)
I would guess it was because big business is where the computer companies
get a great deal of revenue from, and because big business is so
"serious" they want to advertise "serious." If you think back to when
this all started, you might guess that it began with that
original Macintosh ad that was based on Orwell's "1984." Then, if you
think about it further, you might just depress yourself.
So, then again, maybe we shouldn't ask what happened to game/computers. :)
P. Johnson
In article <812.6862...@algonet.se>, ncc1...@algonet.se (Anders
Erlandsson) writes:
> Chris Sweitzer wrote:
>
> >: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
> >: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
I'm 3 and my first computer was a difference engine so there.
P.J.J.J.
Orion
In article <541f6u$m...@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>,
DENG...@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us wrote:
> In the 8 bit days, The Atari 2600 game machine was to the Atari 400 computer
> what the CD32 game machine is to the Amiga 1200 today. The guts of both
> machines were identical and the 2600 had a cartridge slot and the 400 had a
> membrane keyboard.
Actually, wasn't it the 5200 that was identical to the Atari 8-bits? The
Atari computers clearly have higher resolution than the 2600 did.
Besides, the 2600's processor could only address 8K of memory. :)
[Atari vs. C64 deleted -- no way I'm gonna touch that one :) ]
> The point, calling the 2600 technology older and inferior to the C64 is not
> an informed view. I've NEVER owned either system so don't flame me. I speak
> from a knowledge of both systems.
Actually, it is an informed view. See above.
-Orion
Keith E. Young
: >>>Of "ALL TIME"? This list is the most flawed of all! Where's the Atari
: >>>2600? When it was around in the late '70s early '80s it sold an
: >>I think that most people on the net now is not old enough to have had a
: >>Atari2600 or colecovision etc..
: >I'm 22 years old. As a kid, I had an Atari 2600, my friend had an
: >Intellivision, and another friend had a ColecoVision. I meet lots of
: >people in their early twenties who had one of these three machines.
: It is about 16-17 years ago the 2600 was produced so you were about 5-6 years old
: then. Did you really have a 2600 then?
: Most people i know around the 20s have never heard of 2600, intellivision or
: vectrex.
I'm 24 and I own *TWO* 2600's, and I keep picking up cartridges at
flea markets and garage sales so i can play the games i never could
afford to own as a kid. My fiancee is 20 and she remembers her 2600,
and I even bought her favourite game, Phoenix, for $0.50 at a flea
market for her. my brother is 20 and can easily remember the 2600,
Intellivison and ColecoVision. Vectrex is somewhat obscure, however.
-Keith
Keith E. Young
Napalm-Rabbit (dtng...@force.stwing.upenn.edu) wrote:
: How could you doubt the statement of a 22 year old when I'm 3 years
That would be the TI99/4A. :)
: and R.O.B the robot.
Someone actually BOUGHT that?!?
Keith E. Young
George Noel (gn...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
: >instruments computer of some sort with games called Munch Man and Car Wars,
: I didn't like the TRS-80... a friend had one.
That's not the TRS-80. The TRS-80 is a Tandy Radio Shack computer.
We had a Model III with a cassette tape drive. Thing was a piece of junk.
: Someone else mentioned the Odyssey and Odyssey 2.. never liked these
: systems either.. my next door neighbour had this. He also went on to buy
: the Commodore 16.. never could understand his taste.. he got the Commodore
: part right but..
My friend had the Odyssey2. KC Munchkin was hilarious, but there were
some good games.
-Keith
Jeff Gill
I'm 27, and can very clearly remember the 2600, remember PitFall, I think
that was a game for the ages. A friend had a coleco, and an intellivision,
and talked a lot about getting a Vectrex, but never did.
Some of those old games had great playability and still do,
it just goes to show, it's not 16 million colors and 128 bit sound and
30000 shaded polygons and all that crap that goes into a playable game.
BTW, speaking of old game consoles, anybody remember the Odyssey II?
JGill
Benjamin Young
>
> BTW, speaking of old game consoles, anybody remember the Odyssey II?
>
>
> JGill
>
I still have mine. But I haven't used it in ages. I even still have the packaging and some games. I'd be willing to sell the set to someone if the price were right.
Ben Young
sylion
>
> JGill
Yeah, it had a cool racing game, and an awesome football game (for the
time) 2 colors (black and white), probably 1 bit sound, and 0 shaded
polygons...
sylion
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