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Jerome Mai

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Dec 15, 2000, 7:15:11 PM12/15/00
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Every once in a while when I turn on the dreamcast, especially after a
long time not using it, the clock setting screen would show up
prompting me to change the time. Is this normal? I usually keep it
unplugged when I am not using it though.

Althalus

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Dec 15, 2000, 7:54:45 PM12/15/00
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The internal battery goes flat when it doesn't get charged once in a while.

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ilpl

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Dec 16, 2000, 12:30:02 PM12/16/00
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Keep it plugged. The internal battery, which is used by the DC's internal
clock, needs the plug's power. It can handle however some time without being
plugged, and it should be enough for normal gamers... how long are your
"non-playing" periods?

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m@

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Dec 16, 2000, 12:18:43 PM12/16/00
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Mine did the same thing.. Called Sega about it...

The tech told me to leave the dreamcast open overnight with a cloth covering
the lense so that dust wont collect on it and this would recharge the
battery. I did this to mine and everything has been fine since.

Hope this helps

Matt

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Tempora

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Dec 16, 2000, 6:17:15 AM12/16/00
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"ilpl" <ivfu...@ctcinternet.cl> wrote in message
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> Keep it plugged. The internal battery, which is used by the DC's internal
> clock, needs the plug's power.

That's not enough. The battery recharges only when the Dreamcast is powered
on, not just plugged in to a power outlet. When the DC isn't on, I
reccommend that it be unplugged since the back of the DC get a tiny bit warm
when plugged in.

Scott Sim W. Y.

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Dec 17, 2000, 10:26:48 AM12/17/00
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No kidding m@? Why? Do you study science at all? If this is indicative
of your general level of understanding and reasoning, I hear that the
trailer parks have a vacancy for someone of that calibre.

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m@

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Dec 17, 2000, 11:19:57 PM12/17/00
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WTF, is that supposed to mean? I try to give the guy advice and you try to
slam on me? geezzz


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Joe Ottoson

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Dec 18, 2000, 1:48:01 AM12/18/00
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In article <91k35...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "m@"
<matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> WTF, is that supposed to mean? I try to give the guy advice and you try
> to
> slam on me? geezzz

your goal is laudable, but the Sega rep's advice makes about as much
sense as using a voodoo ritual to recharge your battery. Not your fault
really, but bad info shouldn't be spread.

Run it 2 hours a week, and the battery keeps its charge. Otherwise, the
charge dies no matter how open you leave your console overnight. It is
normal for it to reset the clock after a period of disuse however, so
it's not a defect in your DC.

Scott Sim W. Y.

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Dec 18, 2000, 7:58:56 AM12/18/00
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How does 'The tech told me to leave the dreamcast open overnight with

a cloth covering the lense so that dust wont collect on it and this
would recharge the battery' sound right? Are you mayhap a magician?
By putting a dirty ole rag over the console lens you can magically
recharge the battery? If that works, I've got a couple of dead
Duracells here that could use your magic touch. Help not hinder, not
hinder by hapless help.

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m@

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Dec 18, 2000, 7:48:34 AM12/18/00
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How do you know its bad info??

Do you know the inner workings of the DC?

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Raymond McKeithen II

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Dec 18, 2000, 9:59:59 AM12/18/00
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> How do you know its bad info??

An ounce of common sense? A brain?

Maybe READING THE MANUAL???

> Do you know the inner workings of the DC?

One doesn't have to know much at all to know that having the DC "open" has
nothing to do with charging the battery.

It takes electricity to charge a battery, and in the case of the DC, it
takes it being turned on, as EXPLAINED IN THE MANUAL.

--
Raymond
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Joe Ottoson

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Dec 18, 2000, 2:57:18 PM12/18/00
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In article <91l0u...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "m@"
<matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> How do you know its bad info??

Think about it a bit. If you're going to recharge a battery how do you
usually go about it? Open the battery door then cover the device that
uses the batteries overnight with a cloth, or do you recharge the
batteries with a battery charger?

One doesn't even make sense... How would the cloth procedure recharge
the DC's battery? Lunar power?

> Do you know the inner workings of the DC?

Well, yeah. Sega did put it in the manual after all. Dunno what the Sega
rep was smoking, but it was some bad hash no matter how you slice it.

m@

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Dec 18, 2000, 10:49:13 PM12/18/00
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Listen, the rag is just there to protect the lense from getting dust on it..
it was explained to me that by leaving the lid of the dreamcast open
overnight this would allow for the battery to recharge. It was stated
earlier in a perevious post that just by leaving it plugged in the will
(with the lid down) in fact will not keep the battery charged and it was
suggested not to leave the DC plugged in at all as it gets a little warm.
I CHALLENGE ANYONE to call Sega and ask them this question. Explain to them
everytime you turn on your dreamcast you have to set the date and time and
see if you dont get a response similar to what I suggested. I just called
AGAIN and got a different tech and YES I got the same answer that I did
before. If you dont believe me call them yourself. I would suggest that
all you who try to flame and belittle people who want to offer help to those
in need to find out the facts before you shoot your mouth off next time.
You'd be doing the whole group a favor.

Matt

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Joe Ottoson

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Dec 18, 2000, 11:33:39 PM12/18/00
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In article <91mlo...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "m@"
<matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Listen, the rag is just there to protect the lense from getting dust on
> it..
> it was explained to me that by leaving the lid of the dreamcast open
> overnight this would allow for the battery to recharge.

But why? Does a temperature change of .001 degree f really enable the
battery to charge in a state that the manual states is impossible to
charge the battery from?

Specs have the DC having to be actually ON to charge the battery.

It was stated
> earlier in a perevious post that just by leaving it plugged in the will
> (with the lid down) in fact will not keep the battery charged and it was
> suggested not to leave the DC plugged in at all as it gets a little warm.
> I CHALLENGE ANYONE to call Sega and ask them this question. Explain to
> them
> everytime you turn on your dreamcast you have to set the date and time
> and
> see if you dont get a response similar to what I suggested. I just
> called
> AGAIN and got a different tech and YES I got the same answer that I did
> before. If you dont believe me call them yourself.

Just did. The guy laughed himself silly. Asked me "Who told you that?"
in fact.

m@

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Dec 18, 2000, 10:56:25 PM12/18/00
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Listen, the rag is just there to protect the lense from getting dust on it..
it was explained to me that by leaving the lid of the dreamcast open
overnight this would allow for the battery to recharge. It was stated

earlier in a perevious post that just by leaving it plugged in the will
(with the lid down) in fact will not keep the battery charged and it was
suggested not to leave the DC plugged in at all as it gets a little warm.
I CHALLENGE ANYONE to call Sega and ask them this question. Explain to them
everytime you turn on your dreamcast you have to set the date and time and
see if you dont get a response similar to what I suggested. I just called
AGAIN and got a different tech and YES I got the same answer that I did
before. If you dont believe me call them yourself. I would suggest that
all you who try to flame and belittle people who want to offer help to those
in need to find out the facts before you shoot your mouth off next time.
You'd be doing the whole group a favor.

Matt
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m@

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Dec 18, 2000, 10:55:53 PM12/18/00
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> Think about it a bit. If you're going to recharge a battery how do you
> usually go about it? Open the battery door then cover the device that
> uses the batteries overnight with a cloth, or do you recharge the
> batteries with a battery charger?

Re-read what I first posted. Then look at what you just said.. Then feel
like a dumbass for thinking that the cloth is going to charge the battery...
good greif... all the cloth is for is to protect the lense from dust..
PERIOD I never suggested the the cloth would make any difference if the
battery charged or not. It is simply there to protect the lense.

>
> One doesn't even make sense... How would the cloth procedure recharge
> the DC's battery? Lunar power?

AGAIN, re-read my post! The cloth is only to protect the lense from dust.
It has nothing to do with recharging the battery. The battery recharges
from the lid being open and the dreamcast turned off (with the power cord
plugged in of course)

Joe Ottoson

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Dec 19, 2000, 12:09:14 AM12/19/00
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In article <91mm4...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "m@"
<matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Think about it a bit. If you're going to recharge a battery how do you
> > usually go about it? Open the battery door then cover the device that
> > uses the batteries overnight with a cloth, or do you recharge the
> > batteries with a battery charger?
>
> Re-read what I first posted. Then look at what you just said.. Then
> feel
> like a dumbass for thinking that the cloth is going to charge the
> battery...

Ah. So magically the open drive door's going to enable this? How?

> > One doesn't even make sense... How would the cloth procedure recharge
> > the DC's battery? Lunar power?
>
> AGAIN, re-read my post! The cloth is only to protect the lense from
> dust.
> It has nothing to do with recharging the battery. The battery recharges
> from the lid being open and the dreamcast turned off (with the power cord
> plugged in of course)

The battery has no way to recharge from that setup. The system must be
on for the battery to recharge. It never charges just because the door's
open! That's the problem with the post you won't let die.

Charles Doane

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Dec 19, 2000, 7:09:51 AM12/19/00
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"m@" wrote:
>
> Listen, the rag is just there to protect the lense from getting dust on it..
> it was explained to me that by leaving the lid of the dreamcast open
> overnight this would allow for the battery to recharge. It was stated
> earlier in a perevious post that just by leaving it plugged in the will
> (with the lid down) in fact will not keep the battery charged and it was
> suggested not to leave the DC plugged in at all as it gets a little warm.
> I CHALLENGE ANYONE to call Sega and ask them this question. Explain to them
> everytime you turn on your dreamcast you have to set the date and time and
> see if you dont get a response similar to what I suggested. I just called
> AGAIN and got a different tech and YES I got the same answer that I did
> before. If you dont believe me call them yourself. I would suggest that
> all you who try to flame and belittle people who want to offer help to those
> in need to find out the facts before you shoot your mouth off next time.
> You'd be doing the whole group a favor.
>
> Matt
>

<snip>

Matt, I'm actually in the field of electronics and I know more than a little
bit about rechargeable batteries. Opening something will not recharge a
battery. The only way to recharge a battery is to reverse the flow of
electric current to it.

What you've suggested is every bit as unbelievable as stating flatly that
a dead car battery may be recharged by leaving the hood open.
It can't happen. It only recharges while the car is running. The Dreamcast
is exactly the same way. It only recharges while it's running.
Without power, without being plugged in, it cannot recharge. There is just
no way for it to happen.

Bottom line: if that orange light on your DC's top isn't on, that battery
isn't going to charge, ever.


--
Novus ordo seclorum (Latin)- "A new cycle of the ages"
Motto on the reverse of the Great Seal of the
United States of America.

m@

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Dec 19, 2000, 7:41:33 AM12/19/00
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I know I've called twice now and both times I've got the same answer! I
dont care anymore.. I just know what worked for me.. Before I did this, my
clock would reset everyday. Now, After I did this procedure, it does not..
Explain it.


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m@

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Dec 19, 2000, 7:48:38 AM12/19/00
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Okay, Joe..

Lets take it from a different angle...

Since you know so much.. explain to me this...

I used to have this problem.. everyday. My clock would be reset..and I
played my dreamcast almost EVERYDAY. So according to yall it should be
recharging (and I agree, when power is on it should too) I called Sega, a
tech told me about this procedure. I did it overnight and from them on I
haven't had to set my clock again.. Give me one good explanation as to why
this happened and that the so called "open lid" procedure didn't have any
effect on it. Then you're right, I'm wrong. End of story. I'll let it die
:-) Deal??

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No Ham

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Dec 19, 2000, 10:31:10 AM12/19/00
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"Charles Doane" <gdo...@primenet.com> wrote in message
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> "m@" wrote:

> <snip>
>
> Matt, I'm actually in the field of electronics and I know more than a
little
> bit about rechargeable batteries. Opening something will not recharge a
> battery. The only way to recharge a battery is to reverse the flow of
> electric current to it.
>
> What you've suggested is every bit as unbelievable as stating flatly that
> a dead car battery may be recharged by leaving the hood open.
> It can't happen. It only recharges while the car is running. The
Dreamcast
> is exactly the same way. It only recharges while it's running.
> Without power, without being plugged in, it cannot recharge. There is
just
> no way for it to happen.
>
> Bottom line: if that orange light on your DC's top isn't on, that battery
> isn't going to charge, ever.

Maybe it's as simple as there's some little switch inside the DC that's
triggered based on whether the lid is open or closed? Pop the lid, the
switch is closed and power is allowed to go to the battery?


Jerome Mai

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Dec 19, 2000, 5:10:57 PM12/19/00
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I am the guy who posted the original question. Thanx for all the
responses. I guess by popping the lid, it stops the lens from draining
the power (nothing to do with recharging battery). Since if the lid
is closed, the lens has to keep on sending light to detect whether a
disc is placed. Maybe it is one of Sega's design flaw where the lens
continuously drains battery even if power is off.

Charles Doane

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Dec 20, 2000, 1:04:38 PM12/20/00
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It *will* drain the power. It's keeping time, after all.
As for the lens "sending light", that doesn't even make sense, since the
lens is designed to focus on a rotating disc.

No Ham

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Dec 20, 2000, 1:49:11 PM12/20/00
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"Charles Doane" <gdo...@primenet.com> wrote in message
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> As for the lens "sending light", that doesn't even make sense, since the
> lens is designed to focus on a rotating disc.

I think by "lens" he means "laser lens" and not the lens that reads the
laser's reflection. i.e., lasers output (or "send") light?

Joe Ottoson

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Dec 20, 2000, 3:13:51 PM12/20/00
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In article <t41vv89...@news.supernews.com>, "No Ham"
<no...@nospam.com> wrote:

Neither of which matters at all when the system is off!

Tempora

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:34:54 PM12/22/00
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"m@" <matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Think about it a bit. If you're going to recharge a battery how do you
> > usually go about it? Open the battery door then cover the device that
> > uses the batteries overnight with a cloth, or do you recharge the
> > batteries with a battery charger?
>
> Re-read what I first posted. Then look at what you just said.. Then feel
> like a dumbass for thinking that the cloth is going to charge the
battery...
> good greif... all the cloth is for is to protect the lense from dust..
> PERIOD I never suggested the the cloth would make any difference if the
> battery charged or not. It is simply there to protect the lense.
>

Why do you even have the lid open in the first place??? It should be close
unless you're putting or pulling something out of it.
The lid is sufficient enough to protect the lens, it's not like the dust
particles are gonna get up, creep into the microscopic diagonal crack
between the lid and the system, and jump on the lens, which should in the
center position of of the unit. You rmay risk scratching the lens when
placing a rag over it.


Tempora

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:40:53 PM12/22/00
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"m@" <matt_p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I know I've called twice now and both times I've got the same answer! I
> dont care anymore.. I just know what worked for me.. Before I did this,
my
> clock would reset everyday. Now, After I did this procedure, it does
not..
> Explain it.
>

How long did you have the system on when you turned on the DC for the VERY
first time? You need to leave it on for like two hours or something like
that on the very first charge, or the battery would not be fully charged up
and lose its charge after you power it off.


Alan Cottrell

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