Saturn RCA jack Questions...
Grey - Digital Target
Hey there - I recently bought a used Sega Saturn through anyway -
it had some perks, like a free analogue controller and an RFU Adapter,
but unfortunately - it was missing the RCA a/v jacks.
Now, I really kind of need these to use the system on my monitor
and I've been unsuccessful in finding them for sale at any retailer I've
been to (plenty of RFU adapters though <groan>).
I did find one place with a Genesis 2 RCA a/v cable though - and
the connection looked awfully similar to that of the Saturn. So,
assuming that no one lets me know of a good place to get Saturn RCA jacks
- I'd like to know if the Genesis II and Saturn RCA jack ports are identical?
Any helpful responses would be greatly appreciated if you live in
Northern California, shop names would even be useful.
Thanks!
Oh, and if you could - could you please e-mail me a response?
Keep in mind that I've altered my reply-to address to decrease amounts of
spam. Look at the bottom of this message to figure out how to write me
(or just reply in the newsgroup if it's too much trouble, no need to go
too far out of your way as I'm already asking a favour).
-Grey
Digital Target
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Bruce Tomlin
In article <greyEor...@netcom.com>, Grey - Digital Target @
town303.org wrote:
> I did find one place with a Genesis 2 RCA a/v cable though - and
> the connection looked awfully similar to that of the Saturn. So,
> assuming that no one lets me know of a good place to get Saturn RCA jacks
> - I'd like to know if the Genesis II and Saturn RCA jack ports are identical?
No, they are different. Your best bet is to contact Sega DIRECTLY. I've
also had it pointed out to me that to find a replacement *composite*
Playstation 5501 A/V cable is really difficult too. (PSX S-video cables
are all you can find! I've also had trouble locating PSX link cables, but
that may just be due to excessive demand)
Grey - Digital Target
Bruce Tomlin (bto...@aol.com) wrote:
: No, they are different. Your best bet is to contact Sega DIRECTLY. I've
: also had it pointed out to me that to find a replacement *composite*
: Playstation 5501 A/V cable is really difficult too. (PSX S-video cables
: are all you can find! I've also had trouble locating PSX link cables, but
: that may just be due to excessive demand)
Hmm, thanks for the information. Someone else e-mailed me saying
that Sega had the RCA jacks for sale via their on-line store. Apparently
they're $19 though. Ah well, I guess that's what I saved by getting the
free analogue controller. And that wacky RFU unit (damnit all). I
really wish that Sega:
1. Wouldn't make propriatary output ports when for the majority
of users they're going to be used with standard jacks...
and or
2. Since they apparently can't be swayed from making propriatary
output ports - why can't they at least keep them standardized. They've
had at least three different types by my count (and maybe more...
Genesis/Megadrive, Genesis2/Megadrive2, Saturn.... what about SMS,
MarkIII, SegaCD&SegaCD2 (and their Mega counterparts) and 32x - did these
have different output ports as well, or did they actually use what they
piggybacked on?)
Grumble. Ah well, I still had a good Saturn shopping all things
considered between the extra controller and getting the three in-one pack
for a penny at K-mart (still need to e-mail the person who mentioned that
little trick and thank him).
Now, if only I can find Guardian Heroes and possibly a location
in the N. California area that knows a bit more about Modding Saturns
(when I was in Japan in December I picked up a Saturn catalogue at a Sega
arcade - and it listed quite a few titles I'd like to own - including a
brilliant 3-d version of Lupan Sansei)
<shrug> Thanks for the help!
-Grey
Digital Target
grey/at/netcom.com
Darrius Joiner
Red Ronin wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Grey - Digital Target <gr...@netcom.com> wrote in article
> <greyEos...@netcom.com>...
> > 2. Since they apparently can't be swayed from making propriatary
> > output ports - why can't they at least keep them standardized. They've
> > had at least three different types by my count (and maybe more...
> > Genesis/Megadrive, Genesis2/Megadrive2, Saturn.... what about SMS,
> > MarkIII, SegaCD&SegaCD2 (and their Mega counterparts) and 32x - did these
>
> > have different output ports as well, or did they actually use what they
> > piggybacked on?)
>
> There's one good idea, eh? Nintendo did at least ONE thing right with the
> N64, if you have any form of A/V (RF, RCA, or S-Video) cables from the
> SNES, they are completely compatible with the N64! Just plug 'em in and
> play! Most stores won't tell people this of course, hoping to sell the N64
> versions at $30 each...
>
Yeah, it's funny when you try to tell people this while your in line at the
store. They look at you as if you don't know what you're talking about. Even
most retail managers are clueless. You can get the exact same cable at
Funcoland (used bin) for like $0.39!! Whenever I stop by to Funco I spend $2 on
old system cables. You never know when you'll need a spare.
Bruce Tomlin
In article <01bd4001$2d52fbc0$48a3...@klterry.pacbell.net>, "Red Ronin"
<redr...@gamesages.com> wrote:
> There's one good idea, eh? Nintendo did at least ONE thing right with the
> N64, if you have any form of A/V (RF, RCA, or S-Video) cables from the
> SNES, they are completely compatible with the N64! Just plug 'em in and
> play! Most stores won't tell people this of course, hoping to sell the N64
> versions at $30 each...
That's why when I needed an RF adapter (when I was visiting my mom), I
spent the extra bucks and went for the genuine Nintendo RF adapter...
because it had a regular RCA RF plug on it. Same voltage-activated
switching that had been used in the older Nintendo and Sega systems, and a
couple of others, too.
> Though there was more than one type of cable that could connect to the
> original Genesis, it's output was pure composite, I believe, through an RCA
> jack. When Genesis2 arrived, that's when the proprietary port arrived.
> All video for Sega CD, 32X and PowerBase converter came from the standard
> port on the Genesis, no extra cables required.
And I can even get that plug locally from Altex Electronics, though those
mini-DIN plugs are a bitch to solder to. I just wish they hadn't used the
connector shell as the only ground.
I can understand their reasoning, though. They moved the RF adapter out
of the main unit, where it added to the base unit price, and potentially
added to the difficulty (and cost) of shielding needed to pass FCC
testing. *All* the current generation systems are like this.
(And I *can't* find those special 8-pin DIN plugs from the original
Genesis anywhere! All I can find are in a C arrangement, rather than a U
arrangement. At least I have a couple of adapters now, thanks to the 32x
blowout.)
> 2 might not have, I'm not sure. Though the A/V connector on the Saturn
> *looks* like the one on the back of Genesis 2, the cables that connect them
> are indeed different. Oh, well. Maybe next time.
Yep, because they had to add at least one more signal for S-video. Since
I don't have a local source of bare plugs, I haven't felt like figuring
out which pin is which.
Red Ronin
Bruce Tomlin <bto...@aol.com> wrote in article
<btomlin-2202...@mnet01-20.sat.texas.net>...
> No, they are different. Your best bet is to contact Sega DIRECTLY. I've
> also had it pointed out to me that to find a replacement *composite*
> Playstation 5501 A/V cable is really difficult too. (PSX S-video cables
> are all you can find! I've also had trouble locating PSX link cables,
but
> that may just be due to excessive demand)
For each, you might check out Pelican Accessories by way of Electro Source,
LLC. at:
1840 East 27th Street
Vernon California 90058
Phone: (213) 234-9911
Fax: (213) 234-9922
E-mail: elec...@ix.netcom.com
Web: http://www.electrosourceinc.com
Good luck gentlemen, and Happy Silicon Dreams.
HUN-YA!
RR, TCS
Red Ronin
Hi!
Grey - Digital Target <gr...@netcom.com> wrote in article
<greyEos...@netcom.com>...
> 2. Since they apparently can't be swayed from making propriatary
> output ports - why can't they at least keep them standardized. They've
> had at least three different types by my count (and maybe more...
> Genesis/Megadrive, Genesis2/Megadrive2, Saturn.... what about SMS,
> MarkIII, SegaCD&SegaCD2 (and their Mega counterparts) and 32x - did these
> have different output ports as well, or did they actually use what they
> piggybacked on?)
There's one good idea, eh? Nintendo did at least ONE thing right with the
N64, if you have any form of A/V (RF, RCA, or S-Video) cables from the
SNES, they are completely compatible with the N64! Just plug 'em in and
play! Most stores won't tell people this of course, hoping to sell the N64
versions at $30 each...
Though there was more than one type of cable that could connect to the
original Genesis, it's output was pure composite, I believe, through an RCA
jack. When Genesis2 arrived, that's when the proprietary port arrived.
All video for Sega CD, 32X and PowerBase converter came from the standard
port on the Genesis, no extra cables required. CD audio from Sega CD
required audio mixing with the original Genesis, but I *think* that Sega CD
2 might not have, I'm not sure. Though the A/V connector on the Saturn
*looks* like the one on the back of Genesis 2, the cables that connect them
are indeed different. Oh, well. Maybe next time.
Happy Silicon Dreams
Grey - Digital Target
Bruce Tomlin (bto...@aol.com) wrote:
: (And I *can't* find those special 8-pin DIN plugs from the original
: Genesis anywhere! All I can find are in a C arrangement, rather than a U
: arrangement. At least I have a couple of adapters now, thanks to the 32x
: blowout.)
I bought one of these, but only afterwards discovered that he
audio out was only in mono. This was quite frustrating since I'd been
using a cable that came with one of my old Amiga 1084s' which did just
fine for video and one channel of audio (oddly enough the other cord was
mixed audio and video signals - boy was that scarey to try out on my
monitor and speakers each way thinking that maybe it served some purpose).
Ah well...
Herm... Funcoland might be a place for cables - I checked there,
and they only had a Genesis 2 RCA jack - hence the query as to whether
they were the same as the Saturn's.
I'll check some others up north though (after all, I traversed
three counties to find the cheapest Saturn in my area, I can do the same
for RCA jacks =;)
And yes - the N64 and SNES RCA compatibility is the precise
counter example I was thinking of for console systems!
-Grey
Digital Target
grey/at/netcom.com
S...@saturn.com
> Grumble. Ah well, I still had a good Saturn shopping all things
>considered between the extra controller and getting the three in-one pack
>for a penny at K-mart (still need to e-mail the person who mentioned that
>little trick and thank him).
Well, I posted it first on 2/6/98 (someone else followed with another
post on 2/9/98).
I'm just glad to see that someone could get the "deal". :)
Sad
Grey - Digital Target
S...@Saturn.com wrote:
: I'm just glad to see that someone could get the "deal". :)
You should go back and try again. The key for me was buying a
couple of used games along with it (and weird/rare finds - especially for
K-Mart, I got PC Caveman [aka Bonk's Adventure] for the Gameboy, and
Sagaia [aka Darius] for the Gameboy - both Japanese games...
strangeness...) I simply told the person in the electronics area that I
wanted to buy one of the games in the case and pointed out the 3-in-1
package. Then, I brought everything to the cashier and... well, then I
started to get pretty nervous. It was right before they were closing
arount 10pm, so there were only two cashiers and moderate lines, I
couldn't decide which one to choose - what if something happened? Well,
I figured that I could always say that I didn't want it if it rang up for
some huge amount of money, and maybe even argue if they wouldn't sell
it.
I put the 3-in-1 at the front of my games, with the barcode
easily visible to the cashier, I put the other games further back - so
she (hopefully) would look to scan those next instead of looking at what
the first one scanned as. Waiting in line I was watching the cashier,
and it looked like she didn't even glance at the register until she'd
scanned everything. I was pretty excited then, and when it came to my
turn in line I nudged everything forward.
She scanned the 3-in-1, and my eyes zipped over to the register -
sure enough $.01! I held back a grin and nervously watched her scan the
two Gameboy games (each $15, ack... but I made up for it! =;). She
didn't seem to give it a second thought when she read the total as $32!
Woo-hoo!
Then I got nervous because she said something (which I guess I
was too excited to understand) and she took all the games and started
walking with them. It turned out she was just walking them over to a
demagnetizer or somesuch. She then bagged the games, handed me a receipt
and I was out of there!
Woo-hoO! The $.01 3-in-1 pack! Unfortunately, I didn't really
see any others in my searches... maybe other people had success stories?
-Grey
Digital Target
grey/at/netcom.com
Tristan Fletcher
In a message of 23 Feb 98 gr...@netcom.com wrote to All:
gnc> : (And I *can't* find those special 8-pin DIN plugs from the original
gnc> : Genesis anywhere! All I can find are in a C arrangement, rather
gnc> than a U : arrangement. At least I have a couple of adapters now,
gnc> thanks to the 32x : blowout.)
They are called 8 pin OFFSET DIN plugs. Normal 8 pin DIN plugs won't work, the
center pin is in a slightly different location.
Although the audio is mono don't forget you can use the headphone socket at the
front. you could wire it up to the plug if you wished.
Tris.
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