And now Dreamcast is TEN years old today
parallax-scroll
I cannot believe Mega Drive is 20 years old, and now Dreamcast is 10.
Dreamcast was a great system that started the previous generation of
consoles
(DC/PS2/GCN/Xbox).
Before the Dreamcast came out though, I had been expecting a Saturn
2 with PowerPC CPU and a Real3D GPU from Lockheed Martin with more
power than the MODEL 3 board (but the same family of tech), and that
could've been used as a MODEL 4 board, instead of NAOMI. I was kinda
disappointed when Sega went with Videologic/NEC PowerVR instead of
Lockheed Real3D, but it was a better choice than 3Dfx, without a
doubt.
Dreamcast had alot of great games (Soul Calibur, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi,
Skies of Arcadia, PSO)
but it wasn't enough to stop the PS2 war machine.
The alMIGHTY N
> Dreamcast launched in Japan on November 27th, 1998.
>
> I cannot believe Mega Drive is 20 years old, and now Dreamcast is 10.
>
> Dreamcast was a great system that started the previous generation of
> consoles
> (DC/PS2/GCN/Xbox).
The Dreamcast was one of the best systems of all time. I was terribly
disappointed when Sega pulled out of the hardware business.
> Before the Dreamcast came out though, I had been expecting a Saturn
> 2 with PowerPC CPU and a Real3D GPU from Lockheed Martin with more
> power than the MODEL 3 board (but the same family of tech), and that
> could've been used as a MODEL 4 board, instead of NAOMI. I was kinda
> disappointed when Sega went with Videologic/NEC PowerVR instead of
> Lockheed Real3D, but it was a better choice than 3Dfx, without a
> doubt.
>
> Dreamcast had alot of great games (Soul Calibur, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi,
> Skies of Arcadia, PSO)
> but it wasn't enough to stop the PS2 war machine.
Most importantly, the Dreamcast didn't have EA Sports - specifically,
Madden.
Philipp Klaus Krause
> [...] I was kinda
> disappointed when Sega went with Videologic/NEC PowerVR instead of
> Lockheed Real3D, but it was a better choice than 3Dfx, without a
> doubt.
Why?
Philipp
BelPowerslave
I promise you he will copy and paste something from this thread on his
"reasoning":
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=2315
Bel
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parallax-scroll
> Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:
> > parallax-scroll schrieb:
> >> [...] I was kinda
> >> disappointed when Sega went with Videologic/NEC PowerVR instead of
> >> Lockheed Real3D, but it was a better choice than 3Dfx, without a
> >> doubt.
>
> > Why?
>
> > Philipp
>
> I promise you he will copy and paste something from this thread on his
> "reasoning":
>
> http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=2315
>
No need, I'll just search for some of the dozens of posts by
'Nobody's Perfect' on r.g.v.s and other usenet groups, using
the search terms 'Lockheed Martin Sega console' or something
similar.
BelPowerslave
>> "reasoning":
>>
>> http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=2315
>>
>
> No need, I'll just search for some of the dozens of posts by
> 'Nobody's Perfect' on r.g.v.s and other usenet groups, using
> the search terms 'Lockheed Martin Sega console' or something
> similar.
Actually, that's a good call. Man, I remember that fucker!
Bel
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Philipp Klaus Krause
> Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:
>> parallax-scroll schrieb:
>>> [...] I was kinda
>>> disappointed when Sega went with Videologic/NEC PowerVR instead of
>>> Lockheed Real3D, but it was a better choice than 3Dfx, without a
>>> doubt.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Philipp
>
> I promise you he will copy and paste something from this thread on his
> "reasoning":
>
> http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=2315
>
> Bel
Well, that thread seems to be more wild speculation than facts. While
the specs of the PowerVR are known, posters opinion about what the 3Dfx
chip would have been vary greatly: From worse than Vodoo2 to better than
Vodoo3.
Is there any more information about what 3dfx would have made for Sega
available?
Philipp
Scott H
Having done some research on this back in '99, I can tell you that the
PVR2 chip in the Dreamcast absolutely leveled anything 3dFX had on the
market within 1 year. The first 3D cards to beat the Dreamcast's GPU
were the ones with on board Transform and Lighting. Prior to their
release (in mid 2000 iirc) the PVR2's Tile based renderer was truly
cutting edge.
No standard, non-onboard T&L, 3D accelerated card, could hold a candle
to PVR2-DC. This was well known, and the primary reason why the PS2's
specs were such a hot topic in 2000. Sony needed to use all manner of
smoke and mirrors to convince the public that their hardware would
actually be superior through sheer processing muscle. Hence the terms
"emotion engine" and "graphic synthesizer".
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math_guy
>
> I cannot believe Mega Drive is 20 years old, and now Dreamcast is 10.
For me, the Dreamcast won't be ten years old until next September 9.
9.9.99...Best. Launch date. Ever! ;)
Sean
elr...@pop.uky.edu
> I cannot believe Mega Drive is 20 years old, and now Dreamcast is 10.
In the same sense that Emily Dickinson just celebrated her 178th
birthday, then yes.
But in another more important sense, it's fucking irrelevant because
they both actually died a long time ago.
Scrub
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Well I still use my dreamcast every now and my megadrive so they arent
completely dead :p
Dale
Scott H
Since Headhunter, Omikron the Nomad Soul, and TMNT Hyperstone Heist and
Golden Axe on Genesis have been regularly taking me away from Tenchu Z,
Virtua Fighter 5 and Golden Axe Beast Rider, "dead" seems to be an
irrelevant term.
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> Scrub wrote:
> > <elro...@pop.uky.edu> wrote in message
Dude, I am *so* due for a spin of Record of Lodoss Wars. Especially
since Alien Syndrome PSP is boring me stiff.
Aside from that and Jet Set/Grind Radio, I'm struggling to think of
any DC games that I can't replace on one of my newer systems (Power
Stone, Street Fighter 3, etc.)
Terrence Briggs, PSP-only gamer, for now
Peace to you...
BelPowerslave
> since Alien Syndrome PSP is boring me stiff.
It's that "new Sega" quality. Gotta love it.
> Aside from that and Jet Set/Grind Radio, I'm struggling to think of
> any DC games that I can't replace on one of my newer systems (Power
> Stone, Street Fighter 3, etc.)
There's quite a few out there that can't be hand on newer systems...it's
just a matter of if you liked them or not. ;)
> Terrence Briggs, PSP-only gamer, for now
> Peace to you...
Wow, Terrence Briggs...I haven't seen you in here since the old school days!
Bel
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Scott H
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>> Scottwww.gamepilgrimage.com
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> Dude, I am *so* due for a spin of Record of Lodoss Wars. Especially
> since Alien Syndrome PSP is boring me stiff.
>
> Aside from that and Jet Set/Grind Radio, I'm struggling to think of
> any DC games that I can't replace on one of my newer systems (Power
> Stone, Street Fighter 3, etc.)
Well, I still haven't been able to get myself to play games portably. I
was perfectly happy with my DS but never played it. I don't have to
think about how much my hands move while I play console games. Aside
from that, I would take any DC original over a port. There is simply no
replacing DC games in 1080i on my 40" RPTV, and there is absolutely no
gaming controller out there today as precise as the DC gamepad.
> Terrence Briggs, PSP-only gamer, for now
> Peace to you...
*shudders*
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Ted
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> Aside from that and Jet Set/Grind Radio, I'm struggling to think of
> any DC games that I can't replace on one of my newer systems (Power
> Stone, Street Fighter 3, etc.)
>
> Terrence Briggs, PSP-only gamer, for now
> Peace to you...
I find Powerstone on PSP to be a poor replacement for the DC version.
Other great DC only games (barring arcade releases): Seaman in English,
Ooga Booga, Demolition Racer No Exit, Sega Bass Fishing, Sega Marine
Fishing (the newer SBFs are not replacements, tho I h/n tried th Wii
version), Tech Romancer, Toy Commander...
Jordan
> For me, the Dreamcast won't be ten years old until next September 9.
>
> 9.9.99...Best. Launch date. Ever! ;)
I guess it depends on how you count:
Japanese launch - November 27, 1998.
- Jordan
Zomoniac
> Aside from that and Jet Set/Grind Radio, I'm struggling to think of
> any DC games that I can't replace on one of my newer systems (Power
> Stone, Street Fighter 3, etc.)
Shenmue?
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Can't agree more with Scott :)
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> > Scrub wrote:
> >> <elro...@pop.uky.edu> wrote in message
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> >> On Nov 26, 5:51 pm, parallax-scroll <parallaxscr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> I cannot believe Mega Drive is 20 years old, and now Dreamcast is 10.
>
> >> In the same sense that Emily Dickinson just celebrated her 178th
> >> birthday, then yes.
>
> >> But in another more important sense, it's fucking irrelevant because
> >> they both actually died a long time ago.
>
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> >> Well I still use my dreamcast every now and my megadrive so they arent
> >> completely dead :p
>
> >> Dale
>
> > Since Headhunter, Omikron the Nomad Soul, and TMNT Hyperstone Heist and
> > Golden Axe on Genesis have been regularly taking me away from Tenchu Z,
> > Virtua Fighter 5 and Golden Axe Beast Rider, "dead" seems to be an
> > irrelevant term.
>
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> >www.gamepilgrimage.com
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I found my old DreamCast in my mother's garage the other day .
Bill Kendrick
> I found my old DreamCast in my mother's garage the other day .
I got a DC after it was a dead platform, but it's hooked up to my
living room TV, along with all of my other systems:
* Sony PS2 slim
* Atari 7800
* NES
* Genesis (newest addition to the family; thanks, in-laws!)
* Jaguar (my toddler occasionally falls asleep to music + VLM)
* Atari 800XL
Well, not counting the handhelds floating around the house.
Sadly, I don't have too many games for the DC, but the ones I have
I like. I can't believe I went without Daytona USA for so long.
(And DAMNIT, I can't believe I let my wife convince me to get rid
of the DC driving controllers a friend had given me. ARGH)
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Scott H
The only good TV is a TV with at least that many game consoles hooked up
at once!
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