You can get your very own Harrier jet from Pepsi!!!!!!! And Here is how...
Nobody's Perfect
Most of you guys should remember the "Pepsi Points" promotion, in which
Pepsi gives away "Pepsi Stuffs" for points collected from the Pepsi bottles.
You can get stuffs like T-shirts, jacket, and mountain bikes once you
collect enough points. My brother is hooked on collecting this points, and
he collected about 400 points by now. Thanks to my little borther I am sick
and tired of drinking Pepsi and Diet Pepsi every day. I would love to drink
Sprite, but I can't because of those god damn points................
Anyway, in one of "Pepsi Points" points commercials, a Harrier jet is
listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter bottles).
What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24 hours
a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you can "buy"
points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the cash. All
you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000 points,
then claim your Harrier.
This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account did, and
Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
Harrier.........................
So, any one of you out there with $700,000 to burn should hurry up and
claim your Harrier from Pepsi...... As for me, I am glad I don't have to
drink Pepsi 24 hours a day so that my little brother can get his hands on
those Pepsi points...............
Brandon
Some how I knew someone would try this. I wonder if he will win?
John Chih-Wei Tang
Scott Cotton <cott...@bigvax.alfred.edu> wrote in article
<31F8B5...@bigvax.alfred.edu>...
> God, I hope not! The last thing that this world needs right now is some
> deranged lunatic with military hardware at his disposal. It would be
> worse than "Broken Arrow"!!!
>
> Or course, this is assuming that prize was real (which it's not, by the
> way, for the clueless)...
It's a real funny scenario too, as the guy who's suing Pepsi actually went
on the record and said that he had fulfilled Pepsi's requirement, and now
Pepsi won't honor the prize. Makes you wonder about the man's level of
intelligence. Or, maybe, just maybe, he had this lawsuit planned the moment
he saw the Pepsi ad. <g>
John
Andrew Ryan Chang
John Chih-Wei Tang <joh...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
[some guy got 700 million pepsi points and wants that Harrier]
>It's a real funny scenario too, as the guy who's suing Pepsi actually went
>on the record and said that he had fulfilled Pepsi's requirement, and now
>Pepsi won't honor the prize. Makes you wonder about the man's level of
>intelligence. Or, maybe, just maybe, he had this lawsuit planned the moment
>he saw the Pepsi ad. <g>
Cunning guy, but not too bright, if he *never* once saw that
little thing under the 700,000,000 number. The little thing that said
"Just Kidding." Guess we'll see in a while what the legal definition of
"Just kidding" is, but I'm not going to bet against Pepsi's
interpretation. Unless the case is heard in Atlanta. =)
--
"Ed is the standard text editor."
-Patrick J. Lopresti
JAMES MARTIN
Nobody's Perfect (nob...@nowhere.com) wrote:
:
: Anyway, in one of "Pepsi Points" points commercials, a Harrier jet is
: What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24 hours
: a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you can "buy"
: points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
: 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the cash. All
: you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000 points,
: then claim your Harrier.
Actually, the last time i seen this commercial it said 700,000,000 points
not 7,000,000 points and it also said it was a joke(or something to that
extent)
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Greg Sewart
Westie-pal wrote:
>
> > If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
> > the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
> >
> > (JUST KIDDING)
> >
> > Look before you leap.
> > Actually I saw two versions of the commercial> I'm pretty sure that the one
> with just kidding was on Canadian television, the one without it on American.
> I just thought it was another silly Canadian law that required the addition
> of just kidding, like the need to answer a skill testing question. :-)
Isn't that the stupidest, though?
I went to Macdonald's to get my free Monopoly Smarties(TM) and the guy
hands me a paper and says I have to answer it before I can have them.
Why, is there some sort of adverse effect smarties have on people with a
low IQ? Luckily, I don't have a low IQ and got my smarties. Imagine how
ticked some idiot would be if he won but wasn't allowed to have his
Smarties due to stupidity?:)
Greg
"Over-specialize and you breed in weakness."
-Ghost in the Shell
Saturn/Genesis/SegaCD
James Arguello
Phaze wrote:
>
> John Fischer <john.f...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Nobody's Perfect wrote:
>
> >> This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account did, and
> >> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
> >> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
> >> Harrier.........................
>
>
> >The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out there willing to represent this fool!
>
> He probably *knew* Pepsi would turn him down & planned to sue them all
> along. He might be a fool & his lawyer might be a scumball, but Pepsi Corp.
> are the *real* dumbasses for putting that commercial on without thinking it
> through. If it were me, I wouldn't have allowed Pepsi points to be
> purchased. Then we'd see if anyone can come up with 7,000,000 points the
> HARD way! :)
> I wish that guy luck......
>
> -Phaze
>
> "I like my women like I like my coffee...
> strong, bitter, and hand-picked by some guy in Colombia." -me
>
>
Excuse me but these are newsgroups for VIDEO GAMES!! Not some lame prize
you can win from collecting points off of soft drinks!!!! Take this post
to rec.drinks.soda.pepsi if there is such a thing. In other words, this
post does not belong in these places so please let it go people. I swear
you are all the most stupid, thickheaded people in the world if you want
to talk Pepsi prizes in video game newsgroups. Can we have a shot of
intelligence for this country about now? Please. I want to talk video
games. This is just a big waste of bandwith along with that
"no cursing please" thread that can't seem to die. Also we have some
idiot named Mr. PSX constantly wasting up even more bandwith. Please let
the insanity stop.
Scott Cotton
Brandon wrote:
>
> Some how I knew someone would try this. I wonder if he will win?
God, I hope not! The last thing that this world needs right now is some
deranged lunatic with military hardware at his disposal. It would be
worse than "Broken Arrow"!!!
Or course, this is assuming that prize was real (which it's not, by the
way, for the clueless)...
Scott T. Cotton
-Hack to your heart's content.
nukulkij poom
"John Chih-Wei Tang" <joh...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>Scott Cotton <cott...@bigvax.alfred.edu> wrote in article
><31F8B5...@bigvax.alfred.edu>...
>> God, I hope not! The last thing that this world needs right now is some
>> deranged lunatic with military hardware at his disposal. It would be
>> worse than "Broken Arrow"!!!
>>
>> Or course, this is assuming that prize was real (which it's not, by the
>> way, for the clueless)...
>It's a real funny scenario too, as the guy who's suing Pepsi actually went
>on the record and said that he had fulfilled Pepsi's requirement, and now
>Pepsi won't honor the prize. Makes you wonder about the man's level of
>intelligence. Or, maybe, just maybe, he had this lawsuit planned the moment
>he saw the Pepsi ad. <g>
Somebody on this planet actually has MILLIONS of Pepsi points? Now I know I
drink more pop than I should, but that's really sad. Can't wait for this one
to show up in "News of the Bizarre"...
John Fischer
Greg Sewart
Scott Cotton wrote:
>
> Brandon wrote:
> >
> > Some how I knew someone would try this. I wonder if he will win?
>
> deranged lunatic with military hardware at his disposal. It would be
> worse than "Broken Arrow"!!!
>
> Or course, this is assuming that prize was real (which it's not, by the
> way, for the clueless)...
>
>
> -Hack to your heart's content.
I'm wondering if 'Nobody' noticed that it was a joke. I believe on the
commercial it actually says'just kidding' in samll print.
We're just getting over the language thread, why do I feel the next
useless thread to go on forever will be this one? (groan).
Thanks for nothin', Nobody
Mr.PSX
bill plem wrote:
>
> In article <4tc5np$s...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, jg...@cornell.edu says...
> >
> >In article <31F954...@worldnet.att.net>,
> >john.f...@worldnet.att.net says...
> >ABSOLUTELY no basis for the guy to recover, it looks like a bit of the
> >700,000$ will be going to Pepsi's legal fees . . .
> >
> >Toruwa
> >cc by E-mail
> >
> >
> so what does this have to do with nintendo?
Westie-pal
Shawn Winget
Nobody's Perfect wrote:
>
> Most of you guys should remember the "Pepsi Points" promotion, in which
> Pepsi gives away "Pepsi Stuffs" for points collected from the Pepsi bottles.
> You can get stuffs like T-shirts, jacket, and mountain bikes once you
> collect enough points. My brother is hooked on collecting this points, and
> he collected about 400 points by now. Thanks to my little borther I am sick
> and tired of drinking Pepsi and Diet Pepsi every day. I would love to drink
> Sprite, but I can't because of those god damn points................
>
> listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter bottles).
> What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24 hours
> a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you can "buy"
> points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
>
> 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the cash. All
> you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000 points,
> then claim your Harrier.
>
> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
> Harrier.........................
>
> drink Pepsi 24 hours a day so that my little brother can get his hands on
> those Pepsi points...............
I saw this on the news the other day, but I don't think that anyone
noticed that the commercial showed that the Harrier was 700,000,000
points which would be $70,000,000. Not quite the bargain that the news
made it out to be.
Shawn
Mr.PSX
> : listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter bottles).
> : What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24 hours
> : a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you can "buy"
> : points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
>
> : 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the cash. All
> : you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000 points,
> : then claim your Harrier.
>
Mr.PSX
Greg Sewart wrote:
>
> John Fischer wrote:
> >
> > Nobody's Perfect wrote:
> >
> > > Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
> > > Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
> > > Harrier.........................
> >
> >
> > The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out there willing to represent this fool!
>
> your SOB.
> Honestly, some of these guys have no shame, waiting at the MacDonald's
> drive through listening for the sound of spilling coffee!:)
Deniz Yasar
Luke Lamothe (lamo...@vianet.on.ca) wrote:
: In article <31F7F...@nowhere.com>,
: Nobody's Perfect <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
: >Most of you guys should remember the "Pepsi Points" promotion, in
: which
: > Pepsi gives away "Pepsi Stuffs" for points collected from the Pepsi
: bottles.
: > You can get stuffs like T-shirts, jacket, and mountain bikes once
: you
: > collect enough points. My brother is hooked on collecting this
: points, and
: > he collected about 400 points by now. Thanks to my little borther I
: am sick
: > and tired of drinking Pepsi and Diet Pepsi every day. I would love
: to drink
: > Sprite, but I can't because of those god damn points................
: is
: > listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter
: bottles).
: > What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24
: hours
: > a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you
: can "buy"
: > points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
: >
: > 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the
: cash. All
: > you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000
: points,
: > then claim your Harrier.
: > This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account did,
: > Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points
: for a
: > Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for
: his
: >Harrier.........................
: > So, any one of you out there with $700,000 to burn should hurry up
: and
: > claim your Harrier from Pepsi...... As for me, I am glad I don't
: have to
: > drink Pepsi 24 hours a day so that my little brother can get his
: > those Pepsi points...............
: If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
:
: (JUST KIDDING)
And besides, it was 700,000,000 and not 7,000,000 you moron!
Greg Sewart
John Fischer wrote:
>
> Nobody's Perfect wrote:
>
> > Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
> > Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
> > Harrier.........................
>
Luke Lamothe
and
> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points
for a
> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for
his
>Harrier.........................
>
and
> claim your Harrier from Pepsi...... As for me, I am glad I don't
have to
> drink Pepsi 24 hours a day so that my little brother can get his
hands on
> those Pepsi points...............
If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
(JUST KIDDING)
Look before you leap.
"Later" says the:
All Knowing
All Powerful
Always Persistent (...well not always)
Luke Lamothe
Mr.PSX
Phaze wrote:
> >> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
> >> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
> >> Harrier.........................
>
>
> >The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out there willing to represent this fool!
>
Ed Giangrande
In <4tbh76$l...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
ab...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (JAMES MARTIN) writes:
>
>Nobody's Perfect (nob...@nowhere.com) wrote:
>:
is
>: listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter
bottles).
>: What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi
24 hours
>: a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you
can "buy"
>: points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
>
>: 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the
cash. All
>: you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy
7,000,000 points,
>: then claim your Harrier.
>
>
points
>not 7,000,000 points and it also said it was a joke(or something to
that
>extent)
Well I wonder if in some strange way... like say if a small country
started to pool all of its Pepsi points, you know, in an effort to get
their first Harrier, Pepsi would HAVE to give it to them... Since I'm
pretty sure the Gov't won't let weapons get sold to other countries, it
would be a nice legal battle... Pepsi goes to jail..
Drink Pepsi
Get In Jail
Mark & Michelle Wood
In <31F976...@istar.ca> Greg Sewart <dse...@istar.ca> writes:
>
>We're just getting over the language thread, why do I feel the next
>useless thread to go on forever will be this one? (groan).
>Thanks for nothin', Nobody
>
Actually, I am hoping these two threads merge into one all-consuming
thread that completely wastes my time online. I can see it now,
"Please no cursing about Pepsi not giving you your own Harrier Jet!".
To quote Pepsi, "Just Kidding"! I guess I am guilty, too, for replying
to this *#@%#! thread but please, enough already. Once and for all :
1. You don't need to buy tons of Pepsi to get the points. You can buy
points directly from Pepsi, honest. The guy sent 'em a check, they
sent it back saying the Harrier prize was a joke.
2. There were two (count 'em, two (2)) versions of the commercial. The
first one, shown only in limited markets early on, said 7,000,000 pts.
The second one said 700,000,000 pts. and added the words "Just
Kidding". Thanks to everyone that called everyone else an idiot
(looked in the mirror lately?), keep those cards and letters coming, or
what-ever.
3. This has got nothing (not kidding) to do with Sega games so let's
call it quits. I mean, it's bad enough all of the threads about
non-Sega consoles/computers, but this isn't even about games, dangit!
Maybe Sega should make a game called Space-Pepsi Harrier, then you
could talk about this here all you want. Yeah, welcome to the fantasy
zone...
Skid
Tsung
Vance Palodichuk wrote:
>
> In <31F956...@nbnet.nb.ca>, Westie-pal <carl...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
> >> If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
> >> the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
> >>
> >> (JUST KIDDING)
> >>
> >> Look before you leap.
> >with just kidding was on Canadian television, the one without it on American.
> >I just thought it was another silly Canadian law that required the addition
> >of just kidding, like the need to answer a skill testing question. :-)
>
> would try to claim the Jet. Oh well, that guy sure is screwed! =)
Naw, Pepsi *just* changed the commercial after the kid brought up
the suit. That dude is from Lynnwood, WA (Where I am right now), so
they had a semi-long news story about it. I think dumbasses like that
are the reason there is so much legal crap and small print in
commercials. He is stupid if he didn't know it was a joke, and isn't it
illegal anyway for civilians to own military fighter jets?
\/SS\/
http://www.wolfenet.com/~ss
Vance Palodichuk
In <31F956...@nbnet.nb.ca>, Westie-pal <carl...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
>> If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
>> the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
>>
>> (JUST KIDDING)
>>
>> Look before you leap.
>> Actually I saw two versions of the commercial> I'm pretty sure that the one
>with just kidding was on Canadian television, the one without it on American.
>I just thought it was another silly Canadian law that required the addition
>of just kidding, like the need to answer a skill testing question. :-)
I saw the 'just kidding' here in Minnesota. Obviously Pepsi did it so some moron
would try to claim the Jet. Oh well, that guy sure is screwed! =)
Vance
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Roger Kanemaru
Deniz Yasar wrote:
<PEPSI STUFF CUT OUT>
> : > those Pepsi points...............
> :
> : If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
> : the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
> :
> : (JUST KIDDING)
>
Although this is in the WRONG newsgroup for this, I might point out that
he maybe right. I think the original commertial was 7mill. I think the
new commercial is in the Trillion? Or was that hundred-mill? In any
case, Pepsi raised the points.
Phaze
Toruwa
>
>> This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account
did, and
>> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points
for a
>> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for
his
>> Harrier.........................
>
>
>What a $@#$%@ moron. Anyone with that kind of money you would think
would have a few brain cells.
>
>The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out there
willing to represent this fool!
Pepsi filed for sanctions in Fed.Court yesterday. Since there is
Ed Giangrande
>>
>> Brandon wrote:
>> >
>> > Some how I knew someone would try this. I wonder if he will win?
>>
>> God, I hope not! The last thing that this world needs right now is
some
>> deranged lunatic with military hardware at his disposal. It would
be
>> worse than "Broken Arrow"!!!
>>
>> Or course, this is assuming that prize was real (which it's not, by
the
>> way, for the clueless)...
>>
>> Scott T. Cotton
>>
>> -Hack to your heart's content.
>
>I'm wondering if 'Nobody' noticed that it was a joke. I believe on
the
>commercial it actually says'just kidding' in samll print.
>useless thread to go on forever will be this one? (groan).
>Thanks for nothin', Nobody
Well it was 700,000,000 points, not 7,000,000 first off... big
difference... thus, to buy teh needed points it basically equates to a
lot more cash this guyt needs to have... then again, he could just buy
Pepsi Stock and take controll of the company... though I'd personally
take the Harrier instead... However if he DID infact win teh Harrier,
what would he do with it?? You can't just fly a Harrier around in teh
air... I wouldn't think it would come equipt with missles and bombs
though... those themselves can cost more than the plane in some cases..
So it would really be just a flashy personal jet... He'd likely have to
rent it out to movies to make money on it, or send it to air shows,
etc.. You can't just keep it in your backyard... Don't want the
neighborhood kids playing tag on it.... Though he might live in a
mansion if he has that much in teh bank...
Toruwa
In article <4tbqq8$q...@nuhou.aloha.net>, ph...@aloha.net says...
>
>John Fischer <john.f...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Nobody's Perfect wrote:
>
>>> This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account
did, and
>>> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points
for a
>>> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp.
for his
>>> Harrier.........................
>
>
>>What a $@#$%@ moron. Anyone with that kind of money you would think
would have a few brain cells.
>
>>The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out
there willing to represent this fool!
>
>along. He might be a fool & his lawyer might be a scumball, but Pepsi
Corp.
>are the *real* dumbasses for putting that commercial on without
thinking it
>through. If it were me, I wouldn't have allowed Pepsi points to be
>purchased. Then we'd see if anyone can come up with 7,000,000 points
the
>HARD way! :)
>I wish that guy luck......
Actually, Pepsi wasn't foolish at all. This is because:
1) most advertisements are NOT offers to enter into contracts--for
example, just because the ad on TV from your local grocery says "Casaba
Melons--$1" doesn't mean they have to sell them to you at that price.
2) even if the advertisement was construed as an offer, offers are
tested by a reasonable person standard, i.e. if a reasonable person
would have known it was a joke, it's not binding.
3) even then, even if it were reasonable, the guy didn't accept the
offer as required in the offer--he tendered cash, not points.
4) finally, as the Marines have just made clear (USA today) private
persons can't own Harriers. So Pepsi is discharged by impossibility .
. .
Now, to keep this post from being COMPLETELY irrelevant, has anyone
heard anything about the new Gundam game for Saturn in development? I
hear it's similar to Gundam V.2.0 for PSX . . .
Toruwa/Torowa/Trowa/Trois/Three
CC by E-mail
Nobody's Perfect
jg...@cornell.edu (Toruwa) wrote in <4tc65d$s...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>:
>
> Actually, Pepsi wasn't foolish at all. This is because:
> 1) most advertisements are NOT offers to enter into contracts--for
> example, just because the ad on TV from your local grocery says "Casaba
> Melons--$1" doesn't mean they have to sell them to you at that price.
Yes, they do.
>
> 2) even if the advertisement was construed as an offer, offers are
> tested by a reasonable person standard, i.e. if a reasonable person
> would have known it was a joke, it's not binding.
How can you tell if it was a joke or not? I sure couldn't tell.
>
> 3) even then, even if it were reasonable, the guy didn't accept the
> offer as required in the offer--he tendered cash, not points.
The rule says you can "buy" points from Pepsi for 10 cents each. The guy
sent a $700,000 to buy 7,000,000 points from Pepsi, then asked for his
Harrier.
>
> 4) finally, as the Marines have just made clear (USA today) private
> persons can't own Harriers. So Pepsi is discharged by impossibility .
What does Marines have to do with Harrier? Harrier was developed by British
Aerospace during 1960's, and they own the full rights to Harrier. BAS
licensed Harrier design to MD, and MD has been selling US built Harriers
to US Marines. If Pepsi does lose the lawsuit, then it can go to England
to buy the Harrier, and I am sure BAS would be happy to sell one to Pepsi.
Frank Provo
Strangely enough, someone took this person's advice. A man from Lynnwood,
a Seattle suburb apparently convinced some friends to help foot the bill
for the $700,000 it would take to purchase the 7 million Pepsi points.
When he sent them the check, they sent it back, claiming that the Harrier
Jet was never for sale. He is now taking them to court and wants his
plane.
Out of response, Pepsi changed the commercial, by upping the number two
decimal places and by putting a joke disclaimer on it.
Who will win? Who knows... one thing's for sure, that kid wants his jet
and needs a life.
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tig...@ix.netcom.com(Ed Giangrande) writes:
>In <4tbh76$l...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
>ab...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (JAMES MARTIN) writes:
>>
>>Nobody's Perfect (nob...@nowhere.com) wrote:
>>:
>>: Anyway, in one of "Pepsi Points" points commercials, a Harrier jet
>is
>>: listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter
>bottles).
>>: What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi
>24 hours
>>: a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you
>can "buy"
bill plem
>>
>>> This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account
>did, and
>>> Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points
>for a
>>> Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for
>his
>>> Harrier.........................
>>
>>
>>What a $@#$%@ moron. Anyone with that kind of money you would think
>would have a few brain cells.
>>
>>The worst part is that apparently, there's a scumball lawyer out there
>willing to represent this fool!
>
>ABSOLUTELY no basis for the guy to recover, it looks like a bit of the
>700,000$ will be going to Pepsi's legal fees . . .
>
>Toruwa
>cc by E-mail
>
>
Peter Dokko
Toruwa (jg...@cornell.edu) wrote:
: Actually, Pepsi wasn't foolish at all. This is because:
: 1) most advertisements are NOT offers to enter into contracts--for
: example, just because the ad on TV from your local grocery says "Casaba
: Melons--$1" doesn't mean they have to sell them to you at that price.
actually, i think it is. offer, acceptance, consideration. sound like a
contract to you?
: 2) even if the advertisement was construed as an offer, offers are
: tested by a reasonable person standard, i.e. if a reasonable person
: would have known it was a joke, it's not binding.
living in the litigious times that we are, and given the lack of
american intelligence and character (ie the woman who spilled a cup of
mcdonald's coffe on her lap and sued the restaurant and won), the
"reasonable person" bit means little.
: 3) even then, even if it were reasonable, the guy didn't accept the
: offer as required in the offer--he tendered cash, not points.
don't get your point.
: 4) finally, as the Marines have just made clear (USA today) private
: persons can't own Harriers. So Pepsi is discharged by impossibility .
are you a law student? if so, i'm worried, because you didn't even think
to mention the statute of frauds-- need a contract in writing for all
exchanges of goods valued over $500; so sayeth the uniform commercial
code (which i guess doesn't apply if you're in louisiana (unreconstructed
states... bleargh)). oh well, having wasted bandwith a-plenty, i'm
signing out...
-peter
Jeremy McGlaughlin
> Finally the gov does not make harriers, they are made in england, and I
> don't know if legally they can stop you from buying one and bring it here
> to the US. Personally this kind suit should be thrown out as friviolus,
> but on the other hand pepsi should have done the math before running the
> commercial. 700K is kinda cheap for a Harrier Jump Jet (had it been an
> A-10 Warthog I would have found the scratch for it.)
>
> Jer,
>
Jerome,
You ever heard of McDonell Douglas? They make Harriers as well. And in
the United States. And you could probably get an A-10 for around 6
million (very cheap for a combat aircraft) and probably less in a few
years since it is being replaced by the delecate F-16C (I hate to see the
hog go). Wonder if Pepsi will include free air-to-air refueling?
Jeremy
Jeremy McGlaughlin
> When the program went nationwide, it was upped to 700,000,000 points. When
> the initial test marketing was done (in the Seattle area) the amount was
> "only" 7,000,000 points. The kid who is suing lives in the Seattle area.
--------------------------------------
It was only 7,000,000 here in Ohio. That's pretty far from WA.
Vance Palodichuk
>Well it was 700,000,000 points, not 7,000,000 first off... big
>difference... thus, to buy teh needed points it basically equates to a
>lot more cash this guyt needs to have... then again, he could just buy
>Pepsi Stock and take controll of the company... though I'd personally
>take the Harrier instead... However if he DID infact win teh Harrier,
>what would he do with it?? You can't just fly a Harrier around in teh
>air... I wouldn't think it would come equipt with missles and bombs
>though... those themselves can cost more than the plane in some cases..
>So it would really be just a flashy personal jet... He'd likely have to
>rent it out to movies to make money on it, or send it to air shows,
>etc.. You can't just keep it in your backyard... Don't want the
>neighborhood kids playing tag on it.... Though he might live in a
>mansion if he has that much in teh bank...
WHERE'S HE GONNA KEEP IT??? The driveway? Whatever looser did this is in it
for money, not a stupid plane.
Lon Seidman
In article <4tbh76$l...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>, ab...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (JAMES MARTIN) wrote:
>Actually, the last time i seen this commercial it said 700,000,000 points
>not 7,000,000 points and it also said it was a joke(or something to that
>extent)
When the program went nationwide, it was upped to 700,000,000 points. When
the initial test marketing was done (in the Seattle area) the amount was
"only" 7,000,000 points. The kid who is suing lives in the Seattle area.
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Brian Haas
Tsung <s...@wolfenet.com> writes: > Vance Palodichuk wrote:
> >
> > In <31F956...@nbnet.nb.ca>, Westie-pal <carl...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
> > >> the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
> > >>
> > >> (JUST KIDDING)
> > >>
> > >> Actually I saw two versions of the commercial> I'm pretty sure that the one
> > >with just kidding was on Canadian television, the one without it on American.
> > >I just thought it was another silly Canadian law that required the addition
> > >of just kidding, like the need to answer a skill testing question. :-)
> >
> > I saw the 'just kidding' here in Minnesota. Obviously Pepsi did it so some moron
> > would try to claim the Jet. Oh well, that guy sure is screwed! =)
>
> the suit. That dude is from Lynnwood, WA (Where I am right now), so
> they had a semi-long news story about it. I think dumbasses like that
> are the reason there is so much legal crap and small print in
> commercials. He is stupid if he didn't know it was a joke, and isn't it
> illegal anyway for civilians to own military fighter jets?
>
> \/SS\/
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Pepsi has an offer to buy Pepsi points for ten cents a piece. In
the original commerical the herrier jet was listed as being only
7,000,000 points. Some guy sent Pepsi a check and told them to ship
it to him. Pepsi refussed and now the guy is sueing Pepsi. Pepsi
also bumped up the price of the jet to 700,000,000 Pepsi points,
a goal they felt was impossible to reach.
Jerome Jahnke
In article
<mcglaughlin.4-2...@se-590-samac.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
mcglau...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeremy McGlaughlin) wrote:
Yea, but to get a 6 million dollar aircraft for 700K is what I would like
to do. Too bad this guys Harrier won't arrive before the EAA fly in. I
think I will see lots of nice military hardware next weekend up in Oshkosh
that is owned by civilians. Last years WarBirds were impressive, this year
they are highliting Korean and Vietnam era planes (quite a few jets in
this bunch.)
Jer,
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Hasit Mehta
In article <31F97F...@oneworld.owt.com>, Shawn Winget
<sha...@oneworld.owt.com> wrote:
->
->I saw this on the news the other day, but I don't think that anyone
->noticed that the commercial showed that the Harrier was 700,000,000
->points which would be $70,000,000. Not quite the bargain that the news
->made it out to be.
->
->Shawn
I read in the USA Today (I think) that the commercial initially ran with
the 7,000,000 points version in the pacific northwest or something. When
the campaign went nationwide the commercial was changed to 700,000,000.
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Lon Seidman
>Finally the gov does not make harriers, they are made in england, and I
>don't know if legally they can stop you from buying one and bring it here
>to the US. Personally this kind suit should be thrown out as friviolus,
>but on the other hand pepsi should have done the math before running the
>commercial. 700K is kinda cheap for a Harrier Jump Jet (had it been an
>A-10 Warthog I would have found the scratch for it.)
I'm sure for $24 million+ any company will make an effort to take the weapon
systems out of one of those jets and sell one to ya :).
I hope the kid wins that suit. Pepsi should have put a disclaimer on their
advertisment before they went ahead with that advertising campaign. That
kid's really smart and, if he wins, will end up with either a brand new jet or
a nice fat cash settlement.
Jeremy McGlaughlin
> Vance Palodichuk wrote:
> >
> > In <31F956...@nbnet.nb.ca>, Westie-pal <carl...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
> > >> If you were smart enough to look at the screen in the commercial with
> > >> the harrier landing, you'd see in small print:
> > >>
> > >> (JUST KIDDING)
> > >>
> Naw, Pepsi *just* changed the commercial after the kid brought up
> the suit. That dude is from Lynnwood, WA (Where I am right now), so
> they had a semi-long news story about it. I think dumbasses like that
> are the reason there is so much legal crap and small print in
> commercials. He is stupid if he didn't know it was a joke, and isn't it
> illegal anyway for civilians to own military fighter jets?
>
> \/SS\/
> http://www.wolfenet.com/~ss
So, if you opened your Nintendo64/Sony Playstation/Sega Saturn, only to
find that it contained a shell of a console (no inerds) a controller and a
video tape with the game you saw on the commercial, you wouldn't be
dissatisfied or willing to sue the company? Confronting the company would
get you this response: Oh we only showed a person watching the game on
his/her television set with a controller in his hand next to an empty
console. No it's morons that don't advertise properly (yes the original
commercial was for 7,000,000 and there was NO disclaimer (I have it on
video tape and would be happy to lend it to the gentleman defending
himself). It's not like Pepsi doesn't know what they're doing, they're
not video production students, they spend Millions upon millions of
dollars on advertising (it's Pepsi's life) and they didn't play by the
rules and now I hope they get burnt. I'm pretty sure the department of
defense will not allow a harrier to be given to a civilian but I DO think
Pepsi should give the gentleman the monetary worth of the AV-88B harrier.
I hope he has a great time with his 30 million dollars. It's idiots in
the advertisment business that put all those little disclaimers and fine
print in their advertising, to protect THEMSELVES. He was no idiot since
there is no mention of it being a joke, State lotteries approach the 50-60
million dollar marks at times and noone says: "Man, thats just too much
money it must be a joke." No, there are lines around the block to play.
It's idiots like Pepsi that think they are too big to place a disclaimer
in their advertisments because "hey we're Pepsi". Maybe next time they'll
go by the book and not get their asses burnt.
jeremy
Dragonmaster Lou
pnuk...@students.uiuc.edu (nukulkij poom) wrote:
>Somebody on this planet actually has MILLIONS of Pepsi points? Now I know I
>drink more pop than I should, but that's really sad. Can't wait for this one
>to show up in "News of the Bizarre"...
Actually, there is a way you can do this without drinking a lot of
soda. My dad owns a store where people return empty cans and stuff to
refund that 5 cent deposit on them. He gets tons of Pepsi points from
these cans and bottles that the people who returned them didn't take.
That guy may have done something similar.
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Just so you know you can purchase military planes. With weapons is in
the disgrssion of the U.S., without though it's a definate yes.
BH
YAPP
Nobody's Perfect <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Most of you guys should remember the "Pepsi Points" promotion, in which
> Pepsi gives away "Pepsi Stuffs" for points collected from the Pepsi bottles.
> You can get stuffs like T-shirts, jacket, and mountain bikes once you
> collect enough points. My brother is hooked on collecting this points, and
> he collected about 400 points by now. Thanks to my little borther I am sick
> and tired of drinking Pepsi and Diet Pepsi every day. I would love to drink
> Sprite, but I can't because of those god damn points................
>
YEAH, WHATEVER!
B Morphin
In <4tc65d$s...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> jg...@cornell.edu (Toruwa)
writes:
>4) finally, as the Marines have just made clear (USA today) private
>persons can't own Harriers. So Pepsi is discharged by impossibility .
REPLY:
Not true. I have a distant buddy that has a F16. It's who ya know and
who ya blow, the Marines always forget to add that disclaimer. Maybe
somebody should take them to court over that. :)
BH
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products, I feel like I AM WATCHING a commercial.
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ride to school with that guy :) But seriously it is Pepsi's own fault.
There is something like 250 million people in the U.S. Pepsi should have
known that at least one person would claim their Harrier Jet. Another
reason Pepsi should pay up is that this kid saved up $700,000. That is
a HELL of a lot of money for anyone, ESPECIALLY for a kid. $40 million
is also a lot of money, but it is not as much for Pepsi as $700,000 is
for a kid. Pepsi should face the fact that they fucked up. Give the
kid his jet (or settle out of court for a hansom some) and get on with
making crappy soft-drinks. However their is something very wrong with
this kid. He IS a bonified idiot. He said on the local news that he
plans to take people on flights in his jet for money. If he were smart
(which he isn't) he'd sell the plane for $40 million. Then if he still
wanted a stupid jet he could buy a plane off of one of those countries
with a now defunct military for a few million. Buy a new house (he
can't be living in a very good house in Lynnwood) for himself (maybe
on Mercer Island or one of those other yuppy neighborhoods)and his
family, get some nice cars, and start a business of some kind. Of
course in the end Pepsi WILL settle out of court (I wouldn't except
anything less then $20 million plus legal fees and lossed income). He
would also have to buy a Nintendo 64 with his money :)
Luke Lamothe
In article <31FD9A...@nwlink.com>, Drew Holland
Actually, that
(JUST KIDDING)
has been in every commercial for Pepsi Stuff that I've seen (dating
back to May...). It's probably because I'm from Canada and we probably
have some sort of law that makes it so that idiots like that guy don't
do stupid things (like try to purchase a Harrier... what a meat head).
Mat Findlay
jg...@cornell.edu (Toruwa) wrote:
>Actually, Pepsi wasn't foolish at all. This is because:
>1) most advertisements are NOT offers to enter into contracts--for
>example, just because the ad on TV from your local grocery says "Casaba
>Melons--$1" doesn't mean they have to sell them to you at that price.
>2) even if the advertisement was construed as an offer, offers are
>tested by a reasonable person standard, i.e. if a reasonable person
>would have known it was a joke, it's not binding.
>3) even then, even if it were reasonable, the guy didn't accept the
>offer as required in the offer--he tendered cash, not points.
>4) finally, as the Marines have just made clear (USA today) private
>persons can't own Harriers. So Pepsi is discharged by impossibility .
>. .
And the most important point:
5) Under the "Harrier Jet: 7,000,000 points", it says in smaller
letters, "Just Kidding!"
"A man has two things in this world... His word, and his balls...
Or is that three things?"
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Take it EEZ...
Mat. <tet...@interlog.com>
Mike Andrews
Nobody's Perfect (nob...@nowhere.com) wrote:
: Most of you guys should remember the "Pepsi Points" promotion, in which
: Pepsi gives away "Pepsi Stuffs" for points collected from the Pepsi bottles.
: You can get stuffs like T-shirts, jacket, and mountain bikes once you
: collect enough points. My brother is hooked on collecting this points, and
: he collected about 400 points by now. Thanks to my little borther I am sick
: and tired of drinking Pepsi and Diet Pepsi every day. I would love to drink
: Sprite, but I can't because of those god damn points................
: Anyway, in one of "Pepsi Points" points commercials, a Harrier jet is
: listed for 7,000,000 Pepsi points(worth about 3,500,000 2 Liter bottles).
: What most people don't know is that you don't have to drink Pepsi 24 hours
: a day just to collect the points necessary to get the stuffs; you can "buy"
: points from Pepsi for 10 cents per point.
: 7,000,000 Pepsi points should costs you $700,000, if you have the cash. All
: you have to do is to send a $700,000 check to Pepsi to buy 7,000,000 points,
: then claim your Harrier.
: This is exactly what one guy with $700,000 in his bank account did, and
: Pepsi refused to honor the give away, saying that 7,000,000 points for a
: Harrier thing was a joke; too bad this guy is suing Pepsi Corp. for his
: Harrier.........................
: So, any one of you out there with $700,000 to burn should hurry up and
: claim your Harrier from Pepsi...... As for me, I am glad I don't have to
: drink Pepsi 24 hours a day so that my little brother can get his hands on
: those Pepsi points...............
Kit Kimes
PETER SINCLAIR-DAY wrote:
>
> Pepsi is whats wrong with American youth. When I see youngsters drinking pepsi
> products, I feel like I AM WATCHING a commercial.
Why am I not surprised that PSD is a coke lover. <grin>
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David Johnson
[Lots of comments]
In short, if you could buy a harrier jet for $700,000 and then turn a
round and sell it to someone else for several million, don't you think you
would. Pepsi's mistake is no different than when they give out too many
of the winning pieces at Mc'Donalds. I forget who, but one prize give
away gave out the winning pieces for a mini-van to over a thousand people.
Chris Sweitzer
David Johnson (dav...@icat.com) wrote:
: [Lots of comments]
I think it was Kraft's mac and cheese. And they forced them to give all the
winners the cars. I say give him the jet, and also a bill for transport...say
another million dollars for fuel, hanger space, the pilot. Not to mention the
taxes he's going to have to pay on that thing. Or they could just give him a
replica of a harrier(full size) and dump it on his front lawn. Or perhaps
just land a harrier on his house, killing him and his stupid lawsuit.
I hate people who go looking for loopholes and lawsuits. They use tax money
to get rich. The guy who is sueing pepsi is no better than the people who
break hard at green lights so people will hit them.
Chris
Kurt Kollmann
Pepsico is one of the giants of American
industry, and apparently feels that they are too big to be
expected to live up to their advertising campaign.
The comercial was very clear, you could get the jet with
the required 7,000,000 Pepsi points!
John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
to tell his story. The URL is:
John's web site shows that Pepsico should be taken to court!!!
David Johnson <dav...@icat.com> wrote in article
<davidj-0208...@news.pepperdine.edu>...
Stephen Laisch
Hahahaha! I hope he gets the jet!!
Jeffrey A. Wassel
This is a bunch of bullshit. This guy needs to get a life!!! Pepsi
clearly had a disclaimer printed at the bottom of the screen during the
commercial. Maybe he should learn how to read.
xphyle
John F. Lee
In article <320D11...@xnet.com>, Stephen Laisch <yak...@xnet.com> wrote:
>Kurt Kollmann wrote:
>>
>> John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
>> to tell his story. The URL is:
>>
>> http://k-i-s.com/johnsjet/
>>
>> John's web site shows that Pepsico should be taken to court!!!
>
He won't. The DoD released a statement saying that private citizens
cannot buy a Harrier Jet, not even if you have a pilot's license.
However, due to the truth-in-advertising laws, Pepsico has to either
provide the advertised merchandise (which they can't do), or they have to
compensate the plaintiff with whatever amount he sees fit. My friends, I
think Pepsico may have a new owner. :)
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In article <01ba6753$c2736980$6ee41fcc@kurtk> "Kurt Kollmann" <ku...@k-i-s.com> writes:
>John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
>to tell his story.
I don't need to go to the web site to know that John Leonard is (1) a man
with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of humor, and
(3) an idiot.
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sgt corcoran
actually in my opinion...
ppl who think this guy is lame might be sufferring from
the "shit, why didnt i think of that" bug that seems to be going around
a lot lately.
the guy has a point and if pepsi messed up in thier initial ad thinking
no one would possibly believe they could get a REAL JET then they
need to get spanked... HARD...
dont let these huge.companies.com walk all over the consumer.
they guy has a point... how many times do giant 'we wanna be king
of the universe' conglomerates exploit the public to make a buck?
more often than not...
so i say....
GO JOHN!!!!!!!!
exo...@lax.net
Robert A. Jung wrote:
>
> I don't need to go to the web site to know that John Leonard is (1) a
> man with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of
> humor, and (3) an idiot.
Thank you! For a moment there I thought I was stranded on a planet full
of idiots... actually I still think I am, but at least I know I'm not
alone :)
xe
Ryan Carlos Fernandez
Right on. Pepsi said in front of millions of people that if they go
enough points then hey could have a jet. Somebody called their bluff.
sgt corcoran (bul...@primenet.com) wrote:
: actually in my opinion...
: more often than not...
: so i say....
: GO JOHN!!!!!!!!
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Robert A. Jung wrote:
>
> In article <01ba6753$c2736980$6ee41fcc@kurtk> "Kurt Kollmann" <ku...@k-i-s.com> writes:
> >John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
> >to tell his story.
>
> with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of humor, and
> (3) an idiot.
Exactly, I feel sorry for him, really, that he has to do something like
this for he must feel so inadequate that he needs to be in the public
eye no matter what the reason.
It's nice to know that idiots like these can waste the people's time and
money on something that everyone and their dog _knows_ is a joke.
I submit to you that this could oinly happen in the USA(no, not because
I think that Americans are stupid) because I believe I read somewhere
that all the Canadian stations ran the disclaimered add on television,
making sure all the morons that didn't get it knew it was a joke.
Sorry for the rant, but idiots like John really tick me off.
Greg
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JEf
sgt corcoran wrote:
>
> actually in my opinion...
> ppl who think this guy is lame might be sufferring from
> the "shit, why didnt i think of that" bug that seems to be going around
> a lot lately.
> the guy has a point and if pepsi messed up in thier initial ad thinking
> no one would possibly believe they could get a REAL JET then they
> need to get spanked... HARD...
> dont let these huge.companies.com walk all over the consumer.
> they guy has a point... how many times do giant 'we wanna be king
> of the universe' conglomerates exploit the public to make a buck?
>
> more often than not...
>
> so i say....
>
> GO JOHN!!!!!!!!
I think the guy is an opportunistic idiot and I think it will a travesty
of justice if Pepsi had to cave in to him. I do not like Pepsi, but I
found this particular commercial to be amusing and a disclaimer stating
that "actual jet not really available" would have lessened the joke's
impact.
Why would anyone support this idiocy? Is he righting some terrible
wrong? Will this be a landmark case that will change all our lives and
give us freedoms never dreamed of? If Pepsi has to suck down the cost
of a Harrier Jet, we, the consumers, will be the ones who pay for it.
There is the brink of insanity and there is the Abyss; this whole matter
dwells firmly in the Abyss.
JEf
Scott Le Grand
JEf wrote:
>
>
> Why would anyone support this idiocy? Is he righting some terrible
> wrong? Will this be a landmark case that will change all our lives and
> give us freedoms never dreamed of? If Pepsi has to suck down the cost
> of a Harrier Jet, we, the consumers, will be the ones who pay for it.
>
> There is the brink of insanity and there is the Abyss; this whole matter
> dwells firmly in the Abyss.
>
> JEf
Yep, he's opportunistic, and he's crazy... I like crazy people...
Pepsi made a mistake... They should pay... How much brainpower
does it take to figure out the real pepsi point price for a Harrier
and use it in the commercial in the first place? I like seeing
stupidity rewarded in an appropriate fashion... Of course in the
video game industry, stupidity is one of the most cherished talents...
What kind of nimrod corporate lawyer let that one get by them?
This is along the same lines as those $100,000 checks you get
in the mail from Publisher's Clearing House which by most state laws are
perfectly legal tender despite the presence of "void" upon them...
True fact... Of course, cashing them is an act of fraud unless
you are unaware that they are not supposed to be legal tender, but
that's a digression...
Stick it to pepsi... Stick it to anyone who makes a mistake like
that... And if pepsi raises their price as a result, drink Coke, RC,
or any of the other wider variety of competitors...
Scott
kin...@calweb.com
gt5...@acmey.gatech.edu (Ryan Carlos Fernandez) wrote:
>Right on. Pepsi said in front of millions of people that if they go
>enough points then hey could have a jet. Somebody called their bluff.
I personally haven't seen the ad, but if it did say "COULD
HAVE" then Pepsi didn't do anything wrong. :)
And really they didnt' state the condition of the air craft
I'll bet. :) Might be a broken heap of scrap... or worse... A
Revel plastic 1/24th model LOL :)
I think Pepsi will get the shaft only cuz the court will assume
other companies will try to get away with "jokes" in
advertising... but lets face it... The court system protects
the idiots. "Doh! I spilled hot coffee in my lap! I'll sue
Mickey Dee's!!!" Man.
It's stupid that he's doing it, and just about as stupid that
Pepsi would say it.
my 2 cents...
James
(for another cent I'd mention "why is this stupid topic in the
games group anyway?!?!!?") :)
John F. Lee
In article <4um4ju$l...@news.calweb.com>, <kin...@calweb.com> wrote:
>gt5...@acmey.gatech.edu (Ryan Carlos Fernandez) wrote:
>>Right on. Pepsi said in front of millions of people that if they go
>>enough points then hey could have a jet. Somebody called their bluff.
>
>
>I personally haven't seen the ad, but if it did say "COULD
>HAVE" then Pepsi didn't do anything wrong. :)
The ad shows a kid getting ready for school, and every time he whips out
something with the Pepsi logo on it, it says what it is and how many
points it costs. You know, Pepsi sunglasses - 175 points, etc.
Eventually, you see a harrier touching down in front of his school, and it
says something like "Harrier Jet - 30,000,000 points." No disclaimer,
either.
>
>And really they didnt' state the condition of the air craft
>I'll bet. :) Might be a broken heap of scrap... or worse... A
> Revel plastic 1/24th model LOL :)
Truth in advertising. It has to be something you can fly to Jr. High in,
at least.
>It's stupid that he's doing it, and just about as stupid that
>Pepsi would say it.
More stupid.
>
>James
>
>(for another cent I'd mention "why is this stupid topic in the
>games group anyway?!?!!?") :)
Because, aside from a few Navy or Air Force pilots, video gamers are
probably the only folks who can fly one of those things. :)
Torajima
> This is a bunch of bullshit. This guy needs to get a life!!! Pepsi
> clearly had a disclaimer printed at the bottom of the screen during the
> commercial. Maybe he should learn how to read.
Maybe you should learn the full story.
Pepsi had *NO* disclaimer on the commercials when they first aired. That
was added later.....
Torajima
Robert A. Jung
Doesn't change the fact that it was obviously a joke (well, obvious to
anyone with more than three synapses, at any rate), and the lawsuit-instigator
is still a smeggling idiot with Too Much Free Time...
(I mean, who'd *WANT* a Harrier, anyway? They're noisy as sin, guzzle gas
faster than a Texas Longhorn Cadillac, and are a pain to park at the
supermarket...)
--R.J.
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On Sun, 11 Aug 1996 06:10:07 GMT, rj...@netcom.com (Robert A. Jung)
wrote:
>In article <01ba6753$c2736980$6ee41fcc@kurtk> "Kurt Kollmann" <ku...@k-i-s.com> writes:
>>John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
>>to tell his story.
>
> I don't need to go to the web site to know that John Leonard is (1) a man
>with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of humor, and
>(3) an idiot.
>
Nah, bullshit. If hes willing to have a go. Good luck to him.
Theron Ross
I hate to get into off-topic discussions like this, but...
Greg Sewart (dse...@istar.ca) wrote:
: Robert A. Jung wrote:
: >
: > In article <01ba6753$c2736980$6ee41fcc@kurtk> "Kurt Kollmann" <ku...@k-i-s.com> writes:
: > >John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
: > >to tell his story.
: >
: > I don't need to go to the web site to know that John Leonard is (1) a man
: > with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of humor, and
: > (3) an idiot.
: Exactly, I feel sorry for him, really, that he has to do something like
: this for he must feel so inadequate that he needs to be in the public
: eye no matter what the reason.
: It's nice to know that idiots like these can waste the people's time and
: money on something that everyone and their dog _knows_ is a joke.
: I submit to you that this could oinly happen in the USA(no, not because
: I think that Americans are stupid) because I believe I read somewhere
: that all the Canadian stations ran the disclaimered add on television,
: making sure all the morons that didn't get it knew it was a joke.
: Sorry for the rant, but idiots like John really tick me off.
I initially didn't believe this whole thing until I read a comment about
it in STReport. I then went back and found the article on the newswire.
What bothered me the most was that it doesn't seem like this guy had
$700,000 lying aroun to do this. He drew the check from the law firm.
Unless they are control some vast fortune he has, it sure sounds like
setup to me.
: Greg
: "Over-specialize and you breed in weakness."
: -Ghost in the Shell
: Saturn/Genesis/SegaCD
Theron
Brad Johnson
Scott Le Grand <leg...@tesla.mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
>> Why would anyone support this idiocy? Is he righting some terrible
>> wrong? Will this be a landmark case that will change all our lives and
>> give us freedoms never dreamed of? If Pepsi has to suck down the cost
>> of a Harrier Jet, we, the consumers, will be the ones who pay for it.
>>
>> There is the brink of insanity and there is the Abyss; this whole matter
>> dwells firmly in the Abyss.
>Yep, he's opportunistic, and he's crazy... I like crazy people...
>Pepsi made a mistake... They should pay... How much brainpower
>does it take to figure out the real pepsi point price for a Harrier
>and use it in the commercial in the first place? I like seeing
>stupidity rewarded in an appropriate fashion... Of course in the
>video game industry, stupidity is one of the most cherished talents...
>What kind of nimrod corporate lawyer let that one get by them?
>This is along the same lines as those $100,000 checks you get
>in the mail from Publisher's Clearing House which by most state laws are
>perfectly legal tender despite the presence of "void" upon them...
>True fact... Of course, cashing them is an act of fraud unless
>you are unaware that they are not supposed to be legal tender, but
>that's a digression...
>Stick it to pepsi... Stick it to anyone who makes a mistake like
>that... And if pepsi raises their price as a result, drink Coke, RC,
>or any of the other wider variety of competitors...
I have to say, this is just plain stupid. I thought this was total BS
until I saw a 5-sec. blurb about it on the local news. I can't believe
how much morons can get away with these days. Everyone is out to make
a quick buck these days in any, ridiculous way possible. Is it Pepsi's
fault that this loser doesn't understand humor and sarcasm? Nearly
every commercial goes to various extremes. No one ever sued a coffee
company because their coffee failed to improve their love life. We
shouldn't have to put disclaimers about everything claiming that it's
an exagerration.
For example, on the Simpsons, A news report claim that a wave of
"Football fever" was sweeping the city because of a local football
game. And then claimed that the only cure was to take two tickets and
see the game yourself. A voice then said "Tickets are not to be taken
internally". Homer then claims it's because of him that they have this
diclaimer. And I think almost everyone agrees that Homer is a total
idiot. When people start behaving as stupidly as this, it's very, very
pathetic
Whoever this retard is who thinks he can get a Harrier from Pepsi
deserves a good kick in the head. But it sounds like he's already
gotten one.
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John F. Lee (jfl...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
: >Hahahaha! I hope he gets the jet!!
: He won't. The DoD released a statement saying that private citizens
: cannot buy a Harrier Jet, not even if you have a pilot's license.
Hmmmm. It IS tempting to wonder how one could go about acquiring a
fighter jet of any kind, through illicit channels... ;) Course, you'd
have to have your own airstrip, control tower, fuel supply, dummy missiles...
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Emp
Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <01ba6753$c2736980$6ee41fcc@kurtk> "Kurt Kollmann" <ku...@k-i-s.com> writes:
: >John Leonard, the guy who ordered the harrier jet, has a web site
: >to tell his story.
:
: I don't need to go to the web site to know that John Leonard is (1) a man
: with too much time on his hands, (2) a man with a stunted sense of humor, and
: (3) an idiot.
Well, he was smart enough to take advantage of Pepsi's screwup. Who would
you rather vote for, a multi-million dollar corporation like Pepsi, or the
underdog? That's rhetorical, I already know your answer :).
pasquale demaio
Theron Ross (ter...@buffnet.net) wrote:
: I initially didn't believe this whole thing until I read a comment about
: What bothered me the most was that it doesn't seem like this guy had
: $700,000 lying aroun to do this. He drew the check from the law firm.
: Unless they are control some vast fortune he has, it sure sounds like
: setup to me.
Sure does. This guy went into this from the get go with the intension
of sueing Pepsi. He never had plan on getting the jet, He just wanted
to sue Pepsi. He got the backing of 3 or four other people with money,
and set out to trry to screw pepsi. Now maybe legally he is in the
right. A court will decide that, but morally he certainly is not. Do
you think he found investors and told him, look we can get this harrier
jet and give tours on it for fees and recoup our 700,000 bucks, and
they all said ya great idea without ever looking into the logistics.
Obviously thj tour plan would never work for many reasons having nothing
to do with pepsi. He got a bunch of people together and said look we
can sue Pepsi for a lot of money, and they said ya your right. He is a
lier. The add was clearly a joke (I saw it without the Just kidding and
somehow I knew they were just kidding (I must be some sort of genius)).
Now what happens is up to the courts (which we will all be paying for).
But this Leonard guy is no hero, he is certainly no better than Pepsi
(atleast they give something for your money, even if it is only crappy
soda). Buy the way, when you buy soda, what you are paying for is
advertising and the can, the soda itself costs nearly nothing to make
(and you usually give the can back where I live).
Pasquale DeMaio
Glen Sescila
> If Pepsi has to suck down the cost
>of a Harrier Jet, we, the consumers, will be the ones who pay for it.
I drink Coke, thank you very much. Go John!
Gary Turner
I completely understand your point. That guy has a web site now:
http://k-i-s.com/johnsjet
Amazing, huh?
Chris Sweitzer <swei...@bu.edu> wrote in article
<4u82f7$5...@news.bu.edu>...
> David Johnson (dav...@icat.com) wrote:
> : [Lots of comments]
>
> : In short, if you could buy a harrier jet for $700,000 and then turn a
> : round and sell it to someone else for several million, don't you think
you
> : would. Pepsi's mistake is no different than when they give out too
many
> : of the winning pieces at Mc'Donalds. I forget who, but one prize give
> : away gave out the winning pieces for a mini-van to over a thousand
people.
>
Gary Turner
Sean Legge
Brad Johnson (fox...@autobahn.mb.ca) wrote:
: Everyone is out to make a quick buck these days in any, ridiculous
: way possible.
Yes...especially big corporations like Pepsi. They deserve to be
humiliated.
Sean
Robert A. Jung
In article <4upjuf$4...@crow.cybercomm.net> mike...@cybercomm.net (Emp) writes:
>Well, he was smart enough to take advantage of Pepsi's screwup. Who would
>you rather vote for, a multi-million dollar corporation like Pepsi, or the
>underdog?
What underdog?
(1) John Leonard was never abused by PepsiCo. If he was attacked by PepsiCo
and then denied compensation, then he'd be an underdog. But he wasn't,
so he isn't.
(2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
(3) John Leonard is wasting taxpayer's money by adding another frivolous
lawsuit to an already-overloaded judicial system.
Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
Peter Laviniere
I'm kind of glad that someone finally picked up on this major gaff by
Pepsi. I myself just thought Pepsi would try to pass it off as some
giant model easily, but they obviously underestimated this guy. He
deserves to get his Harrier b/c Pepsi made a glaring mistake. I was
really thinking hard about this one b/c I was gonna try and add up how
much it would cost to reach that one million points before I got my
Harrier, b/c then you could sell it for around $20+ million. Not a bad
deal at all. Anyone know if this kid actually has the 1 million Pepsi
points or is he just some tool trying to get money b/c Pepsi had it in
the commercial. If he got his 1 million points, by all means GIVE IT TO
HIM. I'm just mad I didn't have the funds to do it myself. Peace.
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Il Oh
Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
: What underdog?
: (2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
: the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
: launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need to
correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I guess
they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to make
money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
: Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier? I
don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by selling
thrill-rides to rich people.
It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel and
PM.
--
Il Hwan Oh
i...@teleport.com
Gideon Simpson
Gary Turner <tur...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<01ba69b0$cb025c00$42e41fcc@kurtk>...
You realize of course that the contractors may not be able to legally sell
a piece of military hardware like that to a private citizen, even without
armaments and fancy avionics. McDonnell-Douglas(i think they currently own
the rights to the harrier)wouldn't want to get into a lawsuit when the kid
crashed the thing for one thing. It was stupid for Pepsi to make such an
item even within reach of someone.
Hugo Sinnott
Its Pepsi fault for faulsly advertising it. I even considered saving
points, but relized i alone would never save up enough of the points.
At least give the guy a ride in one. (If he gets sick-well Pepsi can
just use the whole thing as a publicity stunt.) They already have
recieved plenty of attention and publicity already. Im proud of him
now all advertizers will have to batten down on their advertisements.
Keep it up James you have my support!!!
Erika Sinn...@teleport.com (Il
BEARS9
This guy is a idiot.......and anyone who thinks he should get the
jet.......should get there ass off welfare and go look for a
J>O>B...........thats what this loser is doing
trying to get a free ride........A WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY.....
BE...@AOL.COMM
handy
>You realize of course that the contractors may not be able to legally sell
>a piece of military hardware like that to a private citizen, even without
>armaments and fancy avionics. McDonnell-Douglas(i think they currently own
>the rights to the harrier)wouldn't want to get into a lawsuit when the kid
>crashed the thing for one thing. It was stupid for Pepsi to make such an
>item even within reach of someone.
>
I think they should just give him the Harrier Jet, it would be
really funny to see what he would do when they bring it to his house
[g]
They can't sell military planes like that, true, Pepsi never said it
worked. After all, you can indeed buy a Stealth plane, a very small
one [g].
Greg Sewart
Hugo Sinnott wrote:
>
> Its Pepsi fault for faulsly advertising it. I even considered saving
> points, but relized i alone would never save up enough of the points.
> At least give the guy a ride in one. (If he gets sick-well Pepsi can
> just use the whole thing as a publicity stunt.) They already have
> recieved plenty of attention and publicity already. Im proud of him
> now all advertizers will have to batten down on their advertisements.
> Keep it up James you have my support!!!
>
> Erika Sinn...@teleport.com
Let me guess, you'll be the guy who sues Miller when it doesn't snow the
next time you have a beer, right? Or when Tony the Tiger doesn't show
up the next morning you eat Frosted flakes?
C'mon people, get a life and a sence of humor while you're at it. I
personally like the ads with jokes in them, as they are good for a
laugh. No, you guys are right, we should have to have commercials that
put us in a coma while we're watching our favorite TV shows.
The dude suing Pepsi is an ignorant, greedy, opportunistic moron who is
just making life hard for others in order to make a quick buck.
Must of gotten tired of earning his money honestly.
Robert A. Jung
In article <4ut8n7$4...@nadine.teleport.com> i...@teleport.com (Il Oh) writes:
>Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
>>(2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
>> the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
>> launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
>
>Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need to
>correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I guess
>they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to make
>money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
Okay, but as someone pointed out, John Leonard and his venture capitalists
certainly weren't looking at buying the Harrier and showing it off to their
friends. They went completely into this effort with the intent of screaming
"lawsuit!" like a bunch of mofos.
>> Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
>
>I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier?
Who cares? He got his lawsuit, that's all he really wants. The next step
in Leonard's scheme is probably an out-of-court settlement...
Michael Souza
>
>Its Pepsi fault for faulsly advertising it. I even considered saving
>points, but relized i alone would never save up enough of the points.
>At least give the guy a ride in one. (If he gets sick-well Pepsi can
>just use the whole thing as a publicity stunt.) They already have
>recieved plenty of attention and publicity already. Im proud of him
>now all advertizers will have to batten down on their advertisements.
>Keep it up James you have my support!!!
>
> Erika Sinn...@teleport.com (Il
>Oh) wrote:
>>Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
>>
>>: What underdog?
>>
>>: (2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
>>: the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
>>: launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
>>
>>Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need to
>>correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I guess
>>they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to make
>>money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
>>
>>: Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
>>
>>I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier? I
>>don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by selling
>>thrill-rides to rich people.
>>
>>It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
>>annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel and
>>PM.
>>
>>--
>>Il Hwan Oh
>>i...@teleport.com
>i...@teleport.com (Il Oh) wrote:
>>Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
>>
>>: What underdog?
>>
>>: (2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
>>: the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
>>: launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
>>
>>Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need to
>>correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I guess
>>they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to make
>>money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
>>
>>: Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
>>
>>I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier? I
>>don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by selling
>>thrill-rides to rich people.
>>
>>It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
>>annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel and
>>PM.
>>
>>--
>>Il Hwan Oh
>>i...@teleport.com
>
>
>
hahaha
Gil Jaysmith
Scott Le Grand <leg...@tesla.mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
>JEf wrote:
>>
>> Why would anyone support this idiocy? Is he righting some terrible
>> wrong? Will this be a landmark case that will change all our lives and
>> give us freedoms never dreamed of? If Pepsi has to suck down the cost
>> of a Harrier Jet, we, the consumers, will be the ones who pay for it.
>>
>> There is the brink of insanity and there is the Abyss; this whole matter
>> dwells firmly in the Abyss.
>>
>> JEf
Tee hee... which Amendments to your own precious Constitution are you
disputing here? The right to free speech, the right to representation,
or the right to bear arms? (Or, in this case, fly them?)
>Yep, he's opportunistic, and he's crazy... I like crazy people...
>What kind of nimrod corporate lawyer let that one get by them?
The same kind who let Hoover give away air flights to America to
purchasers of consumer electrical goods in this country, and then
tried to renege on the offer. Can't remember exactly how much that
cost Hoover, but it ends in 'millions'.
The notion that people should think about their actions before
exploiting a commercial company's stupidity "in case it costs other
people money" is somewhat daft. Everything you get from a commercial
company is already costing everyone around you money. The company is
to blame for making the mistake and not safeguarding itself and its
other customers.
If Pepsi finds itself legally obliged to fulfil every $700,000 order
for a Harrier jumpjet, and loses however many millions per in the
process, that will come out in reduced profits, maybe higher prices,
and maybe some job losses. In other words: same shit, different day.
Complaining about it (or some people's willingness to exploit it)
won't stop a corporation doing things like promoting American cultural
imperialism, paying minimum wage, and creating completely annoying TV
ads. This will happen come hell, high water, or low profits. So we may
as well get what we can from them on the rare occasions where the
getting is at all biased towards us.
I'd've thought most people would be pleased to see some entrepeneurs
"sticking it" to Pepsi. After all, these are supposed to be the
marvelous benefits of a capitalist free market system, comrades :=)
Gil Jaysmith, SN Systems Ltd, England
http://www.snsys.com
(speaking IMHO)
Michael Souza
>
>Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>: What underdog?
>
>: (2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed to buy
>: the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't for sale,
>: launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
>
>Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need to
>correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I guess
>they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to make
>money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
>
>: Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity already.
>
>I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier? I
>don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by selling
>thrill-rides to rich people.
>
>It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
>annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel and
>PM.
>
>--
>Il Hwan Oh
>i...@teleport.com
>
who ACUALLY thought (exept little kids) that you could get a HARRIER for
PEPSI POINTS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Thats the DUMMBEST thing I've heard this year!
AND THE JET ON THE COMMERCAIL WASNT EVEN A HARRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
c'mon people...get a life!
>Hax
Carla Grimm
As soon as I saw that commercial, I though that I could sue them for it
(I have a good mind for looking for lawsuits over *stupid things*, I
would never do them, though.) There are just some really stupid people
in the world, look at Mcdonanalds and the coffea shibang. Can we say
STUPID?
Daniel Grimm
handy
>>
>
>who ACUALLY thought (exept little kids) that you could get a HARRIER for
>PEPSI POINTS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Thats the DUMMBEST thing I've heard this year!
>AND THE JET ON THE COMMERCAIL WASNT EVEN A HARRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>c'mon people...get a life!
>
>>Hax
It wasn't? Yikes. What kind was it?
Janos Horvath
Il Oh (i...@teleport.com) wrote:
: I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier? I
: don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by selling
: thrill-rides to rich people.
There is an international business that sells rides on Russian MiG-29
Fulcrums. That's as in: Russian military fighter planes in _active duty_.
Actually, I think it's a travel package that includes the round trip and
hotel accomodations. I heard about this last year; I have no idea
whether it's still operative, but obviously it only caters to wealthy
"jet-setters". :)
: It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
: annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel and
: PM.
Oh yes, I agree. :)
Mitch Walker
Carla Grimm <cgr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<321396...@ix.netcom.com>...
> AMichael Souza wrote:
> >
> > In <4ut8n7$4...@nadine.teleport.com> i...@teleport.com (Il Oh) writes:
> >
> > >
> > >Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
> > >
> > >: What underdog?
> > >
> > >: (2) John Leonard has admitted that he never had the $700,000 needed
to buy
> > >: the Harrier. He merely asked, and when told that it wasn't
for sale,
> > >: launched his lawsuit. Can you say "ambush"?
> > >
> > >Robert, I'm in complete agreement with you on this issue, but I need
to
> > >correct you. He has the money. He went out and found investors (I
guess
> > >they're venture capitalists -- a group of people who are trying to
make
> > >money without doing anything) to back him for the $700,000.
> > >
> > >: Someone slap John Leonard upside the head and end the stupidity
already.
> > >
> > >I'm with you. What would he really do if he actually go the Harrier?
I
> > >don't think it's possible to make back even the operating costs by
selling
> > >thrill-rides to rich people.
> > >
> > >It would be interesting to get some figures from the military on the
> > >annual upkeep (or per hour of flight time or whatever) including fuel
and
> > >PM.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Il Hwan Oh
> > >i...@teleport.com
> > >
> >
> > who ACUALLY thought (exept little kids) that you could get a HARRIER
for
> > PEPSI POINTS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Thats the DUMMBEST thing I've heard this
year!
> > AND THE JET ON THE COMMERCAIL WASNT EVEN A
HARRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > c'mon people...get a life!
> >
> > >Hax
>
>
> As soon as I saw that commercial, I though that I could sue them for it
> (I have a good mind for looking for lawsuits over *stupid things*, I
> would never do them, though.) There are just some really stupid people
> in the world, look at Mcdonanalds and the coffea shibang. Can we say
> STUPID?
>
> Daniel Grimm
>
Who couldn't see that it could become a law suit. What gives you a good
mind, is the ability
to look at something and see it as a joke. It is ridiculous what lazy
people try to get away
with.
Mitch
Glen Sescila
In article <rjungDw...@netcom.com>,
Robert A. Jung <rj...@netcom.com> wrote:
> Who cares? He got his lawsuit, that's all he really wants. The next step
>in Leonard's scheme is probably an out-of-court settlement...
If Pepsi gives him anything what is going to keep hordes of other people
from scraping up 700K and making the same claim?
Mark Lunsford
>
>
>As soon as I saw that commercial, I though that I could sue them for it
>(I have a good mind for looking for lawsuits over *stupid things*, I
>would never do them, though.) There are just some really stupid people
>in the world, look at Mcdonanalds and the coffea shibang. Can we say
>STUPID?
>
>Daniel Grimm
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CAN WE SAY "GOT PAID?"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IN FULL!!!!!!
Thank you.
Master of Reality
Good ol' fox...@autobahn.mb.ca (Brad Johnson) wrote:
>Scott Le Grand <leg...@tesla.mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>Stick it to pepsi... Stick it to anyone who makes a mistake like
>>that... And if pepsi raises their price as a result, drink Coke, RC,
>>or any of the other wider variety of competitors...
> I have to say, this is just plain stupid. I thought this was total BS
>until I saw a 5-sec. blurb about it on the local news. I can't believe
>how much morons can get away with these days. Everyone is out to make
>a quick buck these days in any, ridiculous way possible.
Yeah, like spending hundreds of millions of dollars annually on ad
campaigns enticing children to drink carbonated water containing a ton
of sugar and a little flavoring from some bitter nut... Methinks
they've reaped what they've sown, in the karma dept., that is...
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