Nick Rox homepage?
William Geiger
If it still exists. Can anyone give me the address of the Nick Rox
webpage?
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If it still exists. Can anyone give me the address of the Nick Rox
webpage?
"Gin makes a man mean!"
"Everyone booze up and riot!"
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Net Newz
I do like some portions of this homepage, but being a friend of Nick's, I
can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
mistake upon meeting him.
Frank Provo
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
That's just it though... we know him by the image he puts across in Cry
Hard Lame Fan magazines. Now, if yer gonna put forth that image, and then
nitpick, make false claims, review unfinished games (and call them
finished), or openly admit to being unable to finish a game before you've
reviewed it -- people are going to be a little annoyed. The thing is, the
Nix Rox page simply pools together much of the odd misinformation he has
partaken in during his tenure at Sly Bard Shame Pan, and "fan" comments
about it. Personally, I don't know him in person, but from those I've
talked to who have seen him in person, I'd think he was a strung out freak
with a pseudo-celebrity mom that's "boinked" half the planet... so,
really, how's that much different than now? Well, okay, he could do for a
haircut and to put on a few pounds too, but those are minor quibbles...
Besides... if you're a friend of Nick's, of course you can't justify the
Nix Rox page's "cruel" remarks... that's just it though, the page wasn't
made by anyone who desires to be his friend. If he were an even handed
reviewer who had any stable mindset from one magazine to the next, the
darn page wouldn't even exist. As it is, when you can see 7% animation
loss, are colorblind to blue hues, and ask people on usenet for help on a
game you're supposed to be good at -- you're begging for a page like that.
Let's face it though... that page is quite tame compared to what has been
said about him on the rec.games.video groups in the past, and is nothing
compared to what it would be like if he turned out to be "Happy Peoples"
or a "Honet Chinese Christian." Trust me on this :>
Frank
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Kenichiro Tanaka
In article <5ekis6$e...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, mos...@u.washington.edu
(Frank Provo) wrote:
> net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
>
> >I do like some portions of this homepage, but being a friend of Nick's, I
> >can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
> >shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
> >mistake upon meeting him.
>
> That's just it though... we know him by the image he puts across in Cry
> Hard Lame Fan magazines. Now, if yer gonna put forth that image, and then
> nitpick, make false claims, review unfinished games (and call them
> finished), or openly admit to being unable to finish a game before you've
> reviewed it -- people are going to be a little annoyed. The thing is, the
> Nix Rox page simply pools together much of the odd misinformation he has
> partaken in during his tenure at Sly Bard Shame Pan, and "fan" comments
> about it. Personally, I don't know him in person, but from those I've
> talked to who have seen him in person, I'd think he was a strung out freak
> with a pseudo-celebrity mom that's "boinked" half the planet... so,
Is Nick Rox's mom really Pamela Des Barres? I've heard this in the past
and it sounds like a rumor.
Of course, this has nothing to do with Nick Rox being a freak. Making fun
of his parentage is low and irrelavant besides. You need look no further
than his incoherent drooling in Gamefan to know that he's a subhuman moron
with the vocabulary of a retarded squid.
And to the original poster--it's silly to claim that we "shouldn't judge
him." When you write for a nationally distributed magazine, you should
EXPECT to be judged. If you are incapable of expressing yourself in any
way other than with random permutations of the words "joy" "bliss" and
"sheer," you shouldn't be writing for a magazine, and you certainly
shouldn't be surprised when people point out that you are a doofus.
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Gloworm
Net Newz wrote:
>
> I do like some portions of this homepage, but being a friend of Nick's, I
> can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
> shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
> mistake upon meeting him.
I very seriously doubt you'll get any sympathy from anyone in this newsgroup after
the remarks he has made about the Saturn. First there was that big SF Alpha thing,
then after that he would make small snaps at the Saturn about every issue. I
remember his review on Panzer Dragoon 2 when he ended it with "This game
couldn't get any better, ESPECIALLY on Saturn", and then his review where he was
supposed to tell us how much better the Saturn version of Alpha 2 was somehow
disappeared. There's nothing worse than a biased reviewer, except the magazine
they work for!
Gloworm
Net Newz
Well Frank...that's an interesting point. But in real life, his hair
looks fine (long hair is in), I don't know about his mom, but he's really
a normal acting person. His ability to tell different % of missing frames
just shows how intense he is about games! Frankly, I'm surprised he
hasn't spoken out on his behalf yet. He's usually quite popular here!
Anyway, I'll bring it to his attention the next time I talk to him so that
I can bring in his say. I'm sure his mom's a normal person.
David Oldridge
Actually, Nick Rox has been unpopular here for some time. Think back to
when he whined about the absence of blue shadows somehow destroying the
Saturn version of the game, despite the fact that the pictures which
accompanied his "review" included them.
Also, wasn't it him who stated that 1/2 to 2/3 of the animation frames
were missing from the Saturn version of X-Men? Whether it was him or
someone else at Dead Head Game Fan, I've seen plenty of Saturn bashing,
anti-Saturn biased statements accompanying most of his Saturn reviews that
I've seen. In fact, he doesn't even have to be talking about the Saturn
to include such statements. (To be fair though, it's been over a year
since I've bothered with the mag, after many months of seeing this crap.)
Greg Sewart
Net Newz wrote:
>
> I do like some portions of this homepage, but being a friend of Nick's, I
> can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
> shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
> mistake upon meeting him.
I won't argue that he's probably a nice guy, hell, Takuhi is my fave
writer for Gamefan, and he seems to be best friends with the guy.
However, when you write for a magazine, you have to be willing to accept
people's reaction to your comments. One could argue that Nick is brave
enough to write what he feels, no matter what people say.
Either way, you have to admit, his video game views obviously don't sit
well with 90% of all Saturn owners, and he seems, to me, anyway, to have
some really wierd views, and too much of a 'purist'.
--
Greg
Editor
Gaming Enthusiast Online
http://www.gaming-enthusiast.com/geo/
"Over-specialize and you breed in weakness."
-Ghost in the Shell
Saturn/Playstation/Nintendo64/GenesisCDX
Net Newz
I very seriously doubt you'll get any sympathy from anyone in this
newsgroup after
the remarks he has made about the Saturn. First there was that big SF
Alpha thing,
then after that he would make small snaps at the Saturn about every issue.
I
remember his review on Panzer Dragoon 2 when he ended it with "This game
couldn't get any better, ESPECIALLY on Saturn", and then his review where
he was
supposed to tell us how much better the Saturn version of Alpha 2 was
somehow
disappeared. There's nothing worse than a biased reviewer, except the
magazine
they work for!
Hmmm...That's an interesting point...
Nick is real popular on this newsgroup so hopefully he'll voice his
response. Nick, your defense?
John Hokanson Jr.
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:27:16 -0300, Gloworm <glo...@gte.net> wrote:
>Net Newz wrote:
>>
>> I do like some portions of this homepage, but being a friend of Nick's, I
>> can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
>> shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
>> mistake upon meeting him.
>
>I very seriously doubt you'll get any sympathy from anyone in this newsgroup after
>the remarks he has made about the Saturn. First there was that big SF Alpha thing,
>then after that he would make small snaps at the Saturn about every issue. I
>remember his review on Panzer Dragoon 2 when he ended it with "This game
>couldn't get any better, ESPECIALLY on Saturn", and then his review where he was
>supposed to tell us how much better the Saturn version of Alpha 2 was somehow
>disappeared. There's nothing worse than a biased reviewer, except the magazine
>they work for!
>
>Gloworm
You seem to be forgetting the number he did on Lunar: Eternal Blue. He
bashed the game because of it's so-called "childish" humor, and then
openly admited that he didn't play the game all the way through.
Furthermore, he claims to know Japanese, but refuses to offer proof to
in order to substantiate this.
And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
Vic.......would you care to comment?
Vance Palodichuk
John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
>
> >I very seriously doubt you'll get any sympathy from anyone in this newsgroup after
> >the remarks he has made about the Saturn. First there was that big SF Alpha thing,
> >then after that he would make small snaps at the Saturn about every issue. I
> >remember his review on Panzer Dragoon 2 when he ended it with "This game
> >couldn't get any better, ESPECIALLY on Saturn", and then his review where he was
> >supposed to tell us how much better the Saturn version of Alpha 2 was somehow
> >disappeared. There's nothing worse than a biased reviewer, except the magazine
> >they work for!
> >
> >Gloworm
>
> You seem to be forgetting the number he did on Lunar: Eternal Blue. He
> bashed the game because of it's so-called "childish" humor, and then
> openly admited that he didn't play the game all the way through.
I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
magazine, much less play games.
> Furthermore, he claims to know Japanese, but refuses to offer proof to
> in order to substantiate this.
>
> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
review! No more ads!"
Vance
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Dr. Cossack
>Well Frank...that's an interesting point. But in real life, his hair
>looks fine (long hair is in), I don't know about his mom, but he's really
>a normal acting person. His ability to tell different % of missing frames
>just shows how intense he is about games! Frankly, I'm surprised he
>hasn't spoken out on his behalf yet. He's usually quite popular here!
>Anyway, I'll bring it to his attention the next time I talk to him so that
>I can bring in his say. I'm sure his mom's a normal person.
What is his nickname on this newsgroup?
John F. Lee
In article <tanaka-2102...@tanaka.maya.com>,
Kenichiro Tanaka <tan...@maya.delete.this.stuff.com> wrote:
>In article <5ekis6$e...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, mos...@u.washington.edu
>(Frank Provo) wrote:
>
>> net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
>>
>> >can't justify it's cruel remarks. None of you know him in person, and
>> >shouldn't judge him. Those that go against him would easily see their
>> >mistake upon meeting him.
So you're saying we should judge a book by its cover? Boy, that's
southern California for you.
>>
>> That's just it though... we know him by the image he puts across in Cry
>> Hard Lame Fan magazines.
Isn't that what Slasher Quan calls it?
>Of course, this has nothing to do with Nick Rox being a freak. Making fun
>of his parentage is low and irrelavant besides. You need look no further
>than his incoherent drooling in Gamefan to know that he's a subhuman moron
>with the vocabulary of a retarded squid.
Hey! He has a 6th grade reading comprehension!
>
>And to the original poster--it's silly to claim that we "shouldn't judge
>him." When you write for a nationally distributed magazine*,
*so to speak.
>you should
>EXPECT to be judged. If you are incapable of expressing yourself in any
>way other than with random permutations of the words "joy" "bliss" and
>"sheer," you shouldn't be writing for a magazine, and you certainly
>shouldn't be surprised when people point out that you are a doofus.
On a related note, I must say that it's nice to see some literate people
pop up in the pages of GameFan, neh? It's nice to see Eric Patterson do
something other than hang around on USENET like the rest of us.
I'm actually kind of pissed at DHLF right now because they _still_ haven't
sent me a rejection notice. I want to put it under my GamePro and CGW
rejection slips so I can say, "I tried the best.... then I tried the
rest," or something to that effect.
Oh, well.
--
John F. Lee / jfl...@u.washington.edu
Online Gaming Raview - http://console.ogr.com
We're like that other magazine, but we don't
have a monkey... a really bad monkey!!
John F. Lee
In article <330FE1...@usinternet.com>,
Vance Palodichuk <vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
>John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
>
>> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
>> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
>
>This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
>through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
>not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
>review! No more ads!"
Well, I can tell you that I've pissed off a few companies myself (EA, for
one, felt the need to tell me that the goaltenders are _not_ slow, and
they have John Vanbiesbrouck to back them up), but, hey, it's their money.
Plus, you're not taking into account the circumstancesof this incident.
MBR: It sucks because...
WD: That's not true. No more ads.
GF: You're right. What can we do to get you back?
WD: Print a retraction.
GF: Hell, no!
Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
Vance Palodichuk
John F. Lee wrote:
>
> In article <330FE1...@usinternet.com>,
> Vance Palodichuk <vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
> >John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
> >> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
> >
> >This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
> >through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
> >not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
> >review! No more ads!"
>
> Well, I can tell you that I've pissed off a few companies myself (EA, for
> one, felt the need to tell me that the goaltenders are _not_ slow, and
> they have John Vanbiesbrouck to back them up), but, hey, it's their money.
> Plus, you're not taking into account the circumstancesof this incident.
EA told you that? Their stupid, then. The goalies (in NHL 97, I
assume) are slower than shit. And impossible to control manually! The
goalies are the only real problem in an otherwise excellent game.
> MBR: It sucks because...
>
> WD: That's not true. No more ads.
>
> GF: You're right. What can we do to get you back?
>
> WD: Print a retraction.
>
> GF: Hell, no!
>
> Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
> to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
I'd still be pissed they did whatever their advertisers told them too
just because they disagree with the review.
Vance Palodichuk
MONKEY BOY ROX! Woohoo!
Vance Palodichuk
Net Newz wrote:
>
> >I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
> score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
> magazine, much less play games.<
>
> the rating should suffer. You must be a little kid or something using
> such grown-up words! Very immature man, grow up. Nick is a talented
> young writer and one of the most die hard game enthusiasts I have ever
> known.
Sorry, I'll strive to use such cool words like 'bliss' and 'joy' more
often.
Solomon
Net Newz wrote:
>
> >I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
> score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
> magazine, much less play games.<
>
> that is your opinion. It effects the game, and makes it worse, therfore
> the rating should suffer. You must be a little kid or something using
> such grown-up words! Very immature man, grow up. Nick is a talented
> young writer and one of the most die hard game enthusiasts I have ever
> known.
He your boyfriend or something?
-- Sol
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Net Newz
>Either way, you have to admit, his video game views obviously don't sit
well with 90% of all Saturn owners, and he seems, to me, anyway, to have
some really wierd views, and too much of a 'purist'.<
I agree, but Sega fans seem to HATE him. That's their opinion I suppose.
I just wish they wouldn't be so mean about it!
Net Newz
>John F. Lee / jfl...@u.washington.edu
Online Gaming Raview - http://console.ogr.com
We're like that other magazine, but we don't
have a monkey... a really bad monkey!!<
Enough with the Monkey talk! Nick is in NO way a monkey!!!!
Dragonmaster Lou
>that is your opinion. It effects the game, and makes it worse, therfore
>the rating should suffer. You must be a little kid or something using
>such grown-up words! Very immature man, grow up. Nick is a talented
>young writer and one of the most die hard game enthusiasts I have ever
>known.
If he's such a game enthusiast, how come he doesn't finish his games before
reviewing them?
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Dragonmaster Lou
>This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
>through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
>not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
>review! No more ads!"
You don't get the point. Other magazines gave Lunar:EB crappy reviews (like
EGM) and WD still advertises with them. WD only wants their games to get a
fair review. Is that too much to ask?
Net Newz
>I'd still be pissed they did whatever their advertisers told them too
just because they disagree with the review.
Vance<
Right on ma' man! I fully support Nick and Dave's decision on that one,
and back them up 100%. Where are they anyway? They usually check out
rec.games.video.sega often, and I'm sure they'd like to speak on their
behalf.
Dragonmaster Lou
>Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
>to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
>seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by name. :)
Net Newz
>Sorry, I'll strive to use such cool words like 'bliss' and 'joy' more
often.
Vance<
dont forget 'hurtin', 'pain', 'manly style', and 'hot burnin'!
Personally, I think these are great, descriptive words! =)
You should practice on these words. Take notes because you WILL be tested
on this info later...
hehehhhehhehehehehehe
Game Fan Talk kicks ass dude!
Net Newz
>He your boyfriend or something?<
actually...yes! j/k! =)
no it's just that I hate to see a friend get so thrashed by everyone on
usenet! None of you know how hard he works to bring you the biggest,
baddest game magazine of all time!
Net Newz
>If he's such a game enthusiast, how come he doesn't finish his games
before
reviewing them?<
because not only did he play through the import version of the game, but
10 hours into the American version it CRASHED. The issue was due the next
day, so he stayed up all night working on the game's layout.
Steve Thomason
Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
It's all a matter of taste. I would also like to point out again that
Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
slack.
SegaBoy
Poom Nukulkij
In article <19970224080...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
You know, I haven't played LunarEB in awhile, but there's this little
thing called a SAVE function. And I know that you don't play ten straight
hours without saving every half hour or so...especially not in a RPG.
--
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Department of Psychology, University of Connecticut
"Seize the day. Never have regrets."
Greg Sewart
Net Newz wrote:
>
> >I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
> score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
> magazine, much less play games.<
>
> the rating should suffer. You must be a little kid or something using
> such grown-up words! Very immature man, grow up. Nick is a talented
> young writer and one of the most die hard game enthusiasts I have ever
> known.
Oh great, as if there weren't enough trolls in here, now we have a Nick
Rox Fanboy to add to the fun.
If memory serves, it wasn't the fact that Nick gave it a bad review that
pissed off Vic, it was the following.
In Nick's review, he claimed that he had played through the entire
Japanese version of Lunar:EB, and used that to add credence to his
opinion that WD's translation hurt the game. OK, nothing wrong with
that.
However, the plot thickens, apparently, after said review was released,
Nick could be found on the newsgroups asking how to beat a certain boss
in Lunar:EB, aboss which Vic contends was never changed from teh
Japanese version. SO, answer me this, if Nick claims to have finished
the Japanese version, what gives?
Vic wasn't pissed at the bad review so much as he was just pissed that
Nick blatently lied in his review. I don't know about you, but that
isn't necessarily the mark of a talented young writer. Besides, Vac has
even agreed that he thinks the comedy was a little too heavy in Lunar
EB.
Happy now?
--
Greg
Editor
Gaming Enthusiast Online
http://www.gaming-enthusiast.com/
"Over-specialize and you breed in weakness."
Greg Sewart
Well, you have to admit, the saturn doesn't need the bad press it gets,
especially from him, I mean, saying that SFA was worse than the PS
version just because of blue shadows, especially when the blue shadows
were in the game. Hell, anybody else would look at that as a slight
enhancement, but Nick refuses to admit when he's wrong.
The straw that broke the camels back for me, was when all the reveiwers
changed thier marks in a later issue and admitted that they were wrong,
except Nick. I thought teh admitting reviewers were very brave, as they
could have taken a lot of flack for retracting a review, but, as usual,
they were overshadowed by Nick's purist, "I'm right even if I'm proven
wrong" attitude.
Hell, I could do without his writing style, but I don't mind him that
much. He just needs to come down a couple notches and lose the
attitude, and relate that change to his readers. Otherwise, I agree
with a lot of his views, including the fact that 2D games should never
die.
But, come on, he has to stop doing such irritating things, like the year
in review issue. Everyone else talked about their opinions on the past
year, Nick talked about 2D. Huh? Reminded me of Tim Robbins and Susan
Sarandon recieving an oscar.
Greg Sewart
Steve Thomason wrote:
>
> Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
> questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
> GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
> out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
> stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
> It's all a matter of taste.
You're absolutely right, it is a matter of taste, heck, I even liked his
style when it was fresh. However, personally I don't know anyone who
really likes his writing style anymore.
I would also like to point out again that
> Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
> This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
Stats don't mean anything, Next Gen statistically rates most Saturn
games higher than PS games, yet say that the PS is the best system
available. Also, you'll note that Nick hardly ever reviews Saturn games
since teh SFA ordeal. Hmmm... wonder who made that decision or why. The
fact that Nick rates more PS games than Saturn games automatically means
that statistics will say he rates SS games higher, as he doesn't have
the chance to rate as much crap for the SS.
> The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
> blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
> of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
> magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
> Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
> understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
> so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
> slack.
Least biased, methinks you are mistaken.
The SFA and Panzer Dragoon things from Rox were just the tip of the
iceberg. ANtoher example would be "Tomb Raider on teh Saturn is a mere
shell of it's PS counterpart", hell, I have 20 PS diehards for customers
who wouldn't even go that far! Any objective reviewer could tell you
that they're nearly identical, each having various strengths and
weaknesses.
vol. 5 is. 2 page 30 Die Hard Trilogy review - "This game is exactly
what you'd expect a saturn conversion of a PS game to be... less" -
Knightmare
Look at the Hardcore 4X4 review directly below it forthe same quote.
I also remember a quote from teh last issue something to the effect of
"Saturn owners, just because your machine has the wimpiest guts doesn't
mean you can't enjoy good games"
Now, I'm not contending weather or not these statement are true or
false, what I'm saying is that they have no place in a review,
especially in an 'unbiased' magazine.
>
> SegaBoy
Mark & Michelle Wood
Net Newz <net...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970224070...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
> Right on ma' man! I fully support Nick and Dave's decision on that one,
> and back them up 100%. Where are they anyway? They usually check out
> rec.games.video.sega often, and I'm sure they'd like to speak on their
> behalf.
>
Because even they are not foolish enough to start up an argument that had
finally ended. Stop drooling in this newsgroup, it just makes a mess.
Skid
Joe Ottoson
> Right on ma' man! I fully support Nick and Dave's decision on that one,
> and back them up 100%. Where are they anyway? They usually check out
> rec.games.video.sega often, and I'm sure they'd like to speak on their
> behalf.
I've almost never seen a response from Nick, Dave or the rest. (well,
Shidoshi does comment every one and awhile) Like EGM and Gamepro's
usenet presence, if they're there, they're lurking and not talking...
I guess they avoid commenting becasue they realize they're not
especially popular around here ;-)
Kenichiro Tanaka
In article <3311F8...@fortlewis.edu>, Joe Ottoson
<jaot...@fortlewis.edu> wrote:
> > Right on ma' man! I fully support Nick and Dave's decision on that one,
> > and back them up 100%. Where are they anyway? They usually check out
> > rec.games.video.sega often, and I'm sure they'd like to speak on their
> > behalf.
>
> I've almost never seen a response from Nick, Dave or the rest. (well,
> Shidoshi does comment every one and awhile) Like EGM and Gamepro's
> usenet presence, if they're there, they're lurking and not talking...
Nick Rox posts occasionally to alt.games.sf2, usually to flaunt his
non-existent skills with Japanese.
> I guess they avoid commenting becasue they realize they're not
> especially popular around here ;-)
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen him post to r.g.v.sega. Apparently, he
did once to ask some question about Lunar, which is one reason why people
dislike him so much. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to review
a game before you finish it. If GF has stated that they finish all games
before reviewing them, that's another issue.
| Kenichiro Tanaka -- tan...@maya.com |
| http://www.maya.com/Local/tanaka/ |
cg...@hooked.net
> Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
> questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
> GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
> out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
> stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
> It's all a matter of taste. I would also like to point out again that
> Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
> This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
> The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
> blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
> of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
> magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
> Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
> understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
> so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
> slack.
>
> SegaBoy
Least biased. HAH! I could still think of 100 reasons to hate GF!
Reason No. 1# Subscribing
Need I say more? I didn't get any of my mags for three months, then got
two copies of the previous month's issue. GameFan may have it's good
points, but that's if you actually get your copy. I'd rather lose money
buying them from the stand than 'subscribing' and getting half my issues
at the end of the month.
-K. M.
c/o <cf...@hooked.net>
Net Newz
>You know, I haven't played LunarEB in awhile, but there's this little
thing called a SAVE function. And I know that you don't play ten straight
hours without saving every half hour or so...especially not in a RPG.<
he didn't need to play through the entire game. It's not like the end
changed dramatically or anything! He vigorously played through the
import, and felt 10 hours was enough to get a good enough feel for the
busted, somewhat snapped, and humor-ridden American translation. It was.
Again, it's not like after 10 hours, SUDDENLY, all the jokes stopped!
Victor Ireland
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>
>>If he's such a game enthusiast, how come he doesn't finish his games
>before
>reviewing them?<
>
>because not only did he play through the import version of the game,
but
>10 hours into the American version it CRASHED. The issue was due the
next
>day, so he stayed up all night working on the game's layout.
Actually, the "crash" story came up months after the review. When I
initially contacted Nick via E-mail, he offered to apoligize or clarify
the fact that he didn't play the US version more than 10 hours, due to
being pressed for time. (I WISH I had saved that mail!).
Besides, his "review" trashed the WHOLE US version, without a mention
that he BARELY scratched the surface of the game, playwise. If he had,
he would have seen that the beginning was INTENTIONALLY light to contrast
with the darkening tone as Zophar took over...THAT was our only beef, and
the basis of the clarification/apology request that we asked for from
Gamefan.
BTW, they offered to "rereview" the game to save their lame butts. We
said that would not solve their problem, since there was NO change to the
game that would require a rereview. It was just designed to pacify us
without forcing them to own up to ANYTHING wrong.
The problem was that the first time the reviewer didn't play the game he
was reviewing more than a handful of hours, implying that he had finished
the US version. THAT is a lie, and not uncommon at all in Gamefan. The
consumer just doesn't see it. Therefore, until they own up to their
deceitful manner of business (anyone notice the change of name from Die
Hard Game Club to "Game Cave?" Do they think we are THAT stupid? Maybe
Dave should have stuck to importing international Barbies.), we are not
giving them ANYTHING (advertising, press materials, review copies, etc).
We've been at it for over a year now, and probably will never do
business with them, since they don't want to let anyone see what they are
REALLY like by releasing a truthful apology.
Perhaps you should revise your tase in friends.
DBTH - Vic
WepaMan
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:53:35 -0500, Steve Thomason
<thom...@carleton.edu> wrote:
>Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
>questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
>GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
>out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
>stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
>It's all a matter of taste. I would also like to point out again that
>Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
>This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
>The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
>blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
>of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
>magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
>Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
>understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
>so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
>slack.
>
>SegaBoy
Lets see, "Nick Rox writing style." Simple, repetative, uninformed,
biased, racist, and about as much coherent substance as a Mento's
commercial. The only people who could possible admire his "style" are
the same shmucks who buy the mag for "the real kool pictures."
Oh yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoy his writing
style. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure "those little jap
bastards" have already forgiven him by now.
By the way, did anyone ever figure out what it was "those guys at
Namco smoke"?
Frank M. Goldman
Dragonmaster Lou <Drgn...@Netspace.org> wrote in article
<5ere06$s0_...@techhouse.brown.edu>...
> In article <5eqd9p$8...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, jfl...@u.washington.edu
(John F. Lee) wrote:
>
> >Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I
have
> >to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> >seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
>
> Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by name.
:)
>
I don't remember this either, but I would like to see it. I personally
like it :)
Colt Duncan
Castellan
wep...@netscorp.net (WepaMan) writes:
>Lets see, "Nick Rox writing style." Simple, repetative, uninformed,
>biased, racist, and about as much coherent substance as a Mento's
>commercial. The only people who could possible admire his "style" are
>the same shmucks who buy the mag for "the real kool pictures."
'scuse me? I buy _Game Fan_ for the "cool pictures," seeing as the
content isn't worth jack squat. I appreciate having a sizeable quantity of
screen shots and game art to gawk at, so I have SOME idea of what I'm looking
forward. Part of my decision to buy a game is aethetic, and if a game looks
ugly in stills, I don't want it, unless the playability totally outweighs
the hideous design.
On the other hand, the review content is miserable. The editors/
reviewers need to stop tossing about terms they know next-to-nothing about
and waxing effusive over mediocre games, and start telling us DETAILS. I'd
rather hear about some specifics with regards to control or detailed
information about the game that cannot be conveyed through screen shots,
as opposed to the endless sequence of cheap adjectives and trendy, irrelevant
segues and/or anecdotes.
I'm glad they enjoy the games, but a review should have CONTENT.
Save the maelstrom of redundant modifiers for the back of the box.
>Oh yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoy his writing
>style. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure "those little jap
>bastards" have already forgiven him by now.
I don't think that was Rox - I'd guess it was K. Lee or
S;asher Quan, both of whom disapeared from Game Fan's roster after the,
er, "incident."
>By the way, did anyone ever figure out what it was "those guys at
>Namco smoke"?
'frop. BoB sent 'em a pipeful as thanks for _Rage Racer_.
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Kazenoyume
Nope, you're right. None of us do know how hard he works to bring us the
"biggest, baddest game magazine of all time!". We're all pretty much
familiar with how hard he works to destroy the integrity of the game
industry prozine press with his blind, shallow opinions, impish, childish
writing style, and utter lack of professionalism. Hey, when we're all
aware of that, what reason do we have to do any further research into the
simian's work habits?
Net Newz
>Well, you have to admit, the saturn doesn't need the bad press it gets,
especially from him, I mean, saying that SFA was worse than the PS
version just because of blue shadows, especially when the blue shadows
were in the game. Hell, anybody else would look at that as a slight
enhancement, but Nick refuses to admit when he's wrong.
The straw that broke the camels back for me, was when all the reveiwers
changed thier marks in a later issue and admitted that they were wrong,
except Nick. I thought teh admitting reviewers were very brave, as they
could have taken a lot of flack for retracting a review, but, as usual,
they were overshadowed by Nick's purist, "I'm right even if I'm proven
wrong" attitude.
Hell, I could do without his writing style, but I don't mind him that
much. He just needs to come down a couple notches and lose the
attitude, and relate that change to his readers. Otherwise, I agree
with a lot of his views, including the fact that 2D games should never
die.
But, come on, he has to stop doing such irritating things, like the year
in review issue. Everyone else talked about their opinions on the past
year, Nick talked about 2D. Huh? Reminded me of Tim Robbins and Susan
Sarandon recieving an oscar.
--
Greg<
Greg, Alpha was a long time ago. He only said he prefers the PS version
to the Alpha one. The audio on the Saturn version WAS slightly snapped.
I agree with his year in review. Everyone else talked about the past
year, he was brave enough to break the mold that had been done to death by
everyone else. This was the only section he is able to truly voice his
opinion on things like the lack of 2D. I have no problem with that when
everyone else has talked about what happened in the year, as if we were
living in a cave or something. Besides, he did wrap things up in the end
about the industry.
Net Newz
Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
It's all a matter of taste. I would also like to point out again that
Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
>This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
slack.
SegaBoy<
Thank you! ya'll heard the man! I personally love Nick's writing style!
The other crap you all complain about is simply due to opinion. Besides,
did you read his Lomax review? He ended it saying its a game that he
would like to see on the Saturn because of how amazing it would be.
Besides, SegaBoy is right, Game Fan is probably the only magazine that
isn't out to bring Sega down and out of the industry! As I've stated
before, I know Nick, and knowing him, I know he isn't biased!
Net Newz
>I've almost never seen a response from Nick, Dave or the rest. (well,
Shidoshi does comment every one and awhile) Like EGM and Gamepro's
usenet presence, if they're there, they're lurking and not talking...
I guess they avoid commenting becasue they realize they're not
especially popular around here ;-)<
odd. I bet they are lurking. Laughing their ass off! I've seen both of
them on from time to time, I've never seen Shidoshi on...when was this?
Net Newz
>Oh great, as if there weren't enough trolls in here, now we have a Nick
Rox Fanboy to add to the fun.
If memory serves, it wasn't the fact that Nick gave it a bad review that
pissed off Vic, it was the following.
In Nick's review, he claimed that he had played through the entire
Japanese version of Lunar:EB, and used that to add credence to his
opinion that WD's translation hurt the game. OK, nothing wrong with
that.
However, the plot thickens, apparently, after said review was released,
Nick could be found on the newsgroups asking how to beat a certain boss
in Lunar:EB, aboss which Vic contends was never changed from teh
Japanese version. SO, answer me this, if Nick claims to have finished
the Japanese version, what gives?
Vic wasn't pissed at the bad review so much as he was just pissed that
Nick blatently lied in his review. I don't know about you, but that
isn't necessarily the mark of a talented young writer. Besides, Vac has
even agreed that he thinks the comedy was a little too heavy in Lunar
EB.
Happy now?<
First of all, I'm not a fanboy! I'm simply sticking up for a friend, thaz
all... He never lied. And if he did, it would be for a good cause. He
was asking about the boss just to see if people were having a difficult
time with it. He may have thought the boss seemed a bit more difficult in
the U.S. version (which turned out to be false) and wanted to check with
you guys to be sure.
Net Newz
>Because even they are not foolish enough to start up an argument that had
finally ended. Stop drooling in this newsgroup, it just makes a mess.<
Maybe so. It isn't an argument, I'm simply defending a wrongly accused
friend. Ain't nothin' wrong wit dat!
Net Newz
DBTH - Vic<
Wow! Um, well Vic, I certainly respect your opinion and will agree with
most that you have said. First of all, however, Game Cave is not Die Hard
Gamers Club. I've seen ads for both companies in the same issue...
I agree an apology would be in order, but not mandatory. I've seen other
mags, especially EGFlem bash Sega, and your games countless times. Game
Fan is the only game mag with editors that actually play games for a
living, and have an undying love for RPGs. When a game like Lunar:EB is
translated, and filled with such rediculous and unecessary 'humor' I can
agree with Nick. How could he stand to finish the rest of the game!
Remember, he was 'dying' for some drama relief! Besides, why should he
have finished the game? He vigorously played through the import and knows
the story, what happens at the end, and everything like that. It'd be a
waste of time. Time that could be spent on finishing other games and
layouts. It's not like the rest of the American Lunar:EB suddenly STOPPED
all jokes after 10 hours or so... Nick is a great friend to have,
especially when the world is void of true die hard game fanatics like Nick
and I. I don't see how your (Working Designs) decision to boycott Game
Fan can do anything but harm your reputation and boost Game Fan's to godly
status (which they already are). Finally, I strongly urge you, and
Working Designs, to put all odds with Game Fan to the side, and continue
business with them. It is affecting GameFan's readers (true gamers), not
the editors at Game Fan. If you really feel the need to childishly get
back with them, why don't you drive up to Game Fan or an editor's house,
and egg it or something? No wait! You could toilet paper it! Again, I
respect your views and opinion on the matter, but take into consideration
all I have just stated. Thank you.
-Mr.E? and the Net Newz:From Around the World of Gaming editorial staff
Net Newz
>Nick Rox posts occasionally to alt.games.sf2, usually to flaunt his
non-existent skills with Japanese.
> I guess they avoid commenting becasue they realize they're not
> especially popular around here ;-)
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen him post to r.g.v.sega. Apparently, he
did once to ask some question about Lunar, which is one reason why people
dislike him so much. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to review
a game before you finish it. If GF has stated that they finish all games
before reviewing them, that's another issue.<
Nick is FLUENT is Japanese. I've HEARD him converse with Casey (Takuhi)!
Odd, I was under the impression he was popular here. Although I can see
why not, cuz all you Nick Rox haters scared his ass off! I'll have to
tell him what's goin' down...
Net Newz
> >to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> >seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
>
> Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by
name.
:)
>
I don't remember this either, but I would like to see it. I personally
like it :)<
I'd REALLY like to see this too!!!! =)
Net Newz
BTW, his name is NICK DES BARRES, or NICK ROX. NOT Monkey Boy Rox.
Monkey Boy? Where the hell did you guys come UP with this!? It does
sound funny though, heh heh! Monkey Boy Rox! Heh heh!
Net Newz
>Nope, you're right. None of us do know how hard he works to bring us the
"biggest, baddest game magazine of all time!". We're all pretty much
familiar with how hard he works to destroy the integrity of the game
industry prozine press with his blind, shallow opinions, impish, childish
writing style, and utter lack of professionalism. Hey, when we're all
aware of that, what reason do we have to do any further research into the
simian's work habits? <
VERY funny...That's really, very funny... the reason you're wrong is the
fact that this is all your OPINION, but it's very funny. It's Nick's
opinion about certain games, and it's YOUR opinion that he is wrong.
Net Newz
>Lets see, "Nick Rox writing style." Simple, repetative, uninformed,
biased, racist, and about as much coherent substance as a Mento's
commercial. The only people who could possible admire his "style" are
the same shmucks who buy the mag for "the real kool pictures."
Oh yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoy his writing
style. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure "those little jap
bastards" have already forgiven him by now.
By the way, did anyone ever figure out what it was "those guys at
Namco smoke"?<
What the-!? How DARE you imply that it was NICK that made those
comments!!!!! I was THERE at the time it happened. It was a producer at
Game Fan who was immediately FIRED. Those guys at Namco smoke Ganga! You
didn't know? j/k =)
Net Newz
>You're absolutely right, it is a matter of taste, heck, I even liked his
style when it was fresh. However, personally I don't know anyone who
really likes his writing style anymore.
I would also like to point out again that
> Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
> This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
Stats don't mean anything, Next Gen statistically rates most Saturn
games higher than PS games, yet say that the PS is the best system
available. Also, you'll note that Nick hardly ever reviews Saturn games
since teh SFA ordeal. Hmmm... wonder who made that decision or why. The
fact that Nick rates more PS games than Saturn games automatically means
that statistics will say he rates SS games higher, as he doesn't have
the chance to rate as much crap for the SS.
> The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
> blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
> of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
> magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
> Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
> understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
> so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
> slack.
Least biased, methinks you are mistaken.
The SFA and Panzer Dragoon things from Rox were just the tip of the
iceberg. ANtoher example would be "Tomb Raider on teh Saturn is a mere
shell of it's PS counterpart", hell, I have 20 PS diehards for customers
who wouldn't even go that far! Any objective reviewer could tell you
that they're nearly identical, each having various strengths and
weaknesses.
vol. 5 is. 2 page 30 Die Hard Trilogy review - "This game is exactly
what you'd expect a saturn conversion of a PS game to be... less" -
Knightmare
Look at the Hardcore 4X4 review directly below it forthe same quote.
I also remember a quote from teh last issue something to the effect of
"Saturn owners, just because your machine has the wimpiest guts doesn't
mean you can't enjoy good games"
Now, I'm not contending weather or not these statement are true or
false, what I'm saying is that they have no place in a review,
especially in an 'unbiased' magazine.
>
> SegaBoy<
Some good points boy, but to clear the air, you all know that I like, no,
LOVE Nick's writing style; which seems to keep getting better and better.
You have some good points, but Tomb Raider IS a mere shell of the PS
version! Owning both a PS and a Saturn, I may even love my Saturn the
most! However, I will agree with E.Storm on his comment. I played BOTH
versions of Tomb Raider. I loved it on the Saturn. It had it's graphical
problems, but was a great game. I played the PS version and MAN was it
better!!! I tried going back the Saturn version to see how much worse it
is, but I can't even look at it! It's just-AH!
Net Newz
> I don't think that was Rox - I'd guess it was K. Lee or
S;asher Quan, both of whom disapeared from Game Fan's roster after the,
er, "incident."<
It was NEITHER! Check my other Nick Rox post for the honest scoop on
that. I was THERE, it was a producer who was immediately fired. BTW I
don't at all, have a problem with Game Fan's reviews, and in fact think it
has the best writing of all the magazines, including Next Gen/Edge
David Oldridge
Net Newz (net...@aol.com) writes:
>>If he's such a game enthusiast, how come he doesn't finish his games
> before
> reviewing them?<
>
> because not only did he play through the import version of the game, but
> 10 hours into the American version it CRASHED. The issue was due the next
> day, so he stayed up all night working on the game's layout.
WD translated and "Americanized" Lunar 2, but they left many of the
strategies completely unchanged. This includes what was needed to get
past Brogan, meaning that if you knew how to defeat him in the Japanese
game, you knew how to defeat him in WD's version.
And a few months after Monkey Boy's review of the US version was
published, he posted a message asking for tips on defeating Brogan.
Besides, why did he say that WD's humor ruined the _game_, instead of the
first 10 hours of his gameplay? If he had played the game through, he'd
have known the difference. But he didn't, and when his error was pointed
out he refused to acknowledge it.
Michael
Net Newz wrote:
>
> >I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
> score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
> magazine, much less play games.<
>
> that is your opinion. It effects the game, and makes it worse, therfore
> the rating should suffer. You must be a little kid or something using
> such grown-up words! Very immature man, grow up. Nick is a talented
> young writer and one of the most die hard game enthusiasts I have ever
> known.
Do you have to state in every one of your posts how Monkey Boy is
"one of the most die hard game enthusiasts"? People don't care
how die hard he is. The fact remains that he is a VERY poor
writer, has been caught lying, and has tried to decieve redears
of Gamefan.
IMO, Next Generation is the magazine of choice. Good honest
reviews with a higher level of maturity clearly above anything
Gamefan editors can write.
nathan stehle
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
With an RPG like Lunar 2, 10 hours is not enough. I firmly believe a reviewer
should have beaten a game before reviewing it. If that is not possible,
state that the game was not completed in the review. The story and plot
development continues well past 10 hours (it took me around 36-37 hours to
beat). It was not humor-ridden. It has plenty of humor, but then I thought
video games were supposed to be fun. Vic has stated that they went overboard
a bit and things will change.
--
Nathan Stehle
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes."
Mazer Rackham in Orson Scott Card's "Ender's Game"
nathan stehle
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
>Nick is FLUENT is Japanese. I've HEARD him converse with Casey (Takuhi)!
>Odd, I was under the impression he was popular here. Although I can see
>why not, cuz all you Nick Rox haters scared his ass off! I'll have to
>tell him what's goin' down...
Then maybe he will take the Japanese test Vic offered to give him awhile ago
then. You tell him, and see what happens. It would be good for a laugh
or a hundred.
Jeff Marks
Net newz Said: Die Hard Game Club and Game Cave are not the same?
Jeff Says--- Hahahahahahahahahahah.... (streaming tears)... hahahahahah
Ok... whatever
Jeff
Lion
David Oldridge wrote:
> Also, wasn't it him who stated that 1/2 to 2/3 of the animation frames
> were missing from the Saturn version of X-Men?
It's from a Capcom programmer interview. 1/3 of the animation frames
are missing on SS X-Men. And you have just to open eyes to see this
lack.
Lion
Tim S. Nelson
>Odd, I was under the impression he was popular here. Although I can see
>why not, cuz all you Nick Rox haters scared his ass off! I'll have to
That's right... and good riddance! His ass wasn't very pretty to look
at anyway. Maybe if he wised up a little and didn't speak from there all
the time, he might be welcomed back (which probably won't happen, EVER).
Jeff Marks
John F. Lee
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Dragonmaster Lou wrote:
> In article <5eqd9p$8...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, jfl...@u.washington.edu (John F. Lee) wrote:
>
> >Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
> >to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> >seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
>
> Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by name. :)
He was replying to you. He said something like "you and all the rest of
Vic Ireland's personal cadre of Nazis", or some similar thing. I
distinctly remember laughing my ass off.
John F. Lee / jfl...@u.washington.edu
Online Gaming Raview - http://console.ogr.com
We're like that other magazine, but we don't
have a monkey... a really bad monkey!!
Frank M. Goldman
Net Newz <net...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970224231...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> >You know, I haven't played LunarEB in awhile, but there's this little
> thing called a SAVE function. And I know that you don't play ten
straight
> hours without saving every half hour or so...especially not in a RPG.<
>
> he didn't need to play through the entire game. It's not like the end
> changed dramatically or anything! He vigorously played through the
> import, and felt 10 hours was enough to get a good enough feel for the
> busted, somewhat snapped, and humor-ridden American translation. It was.
> Again, it's not like after 10 hours, SUDDENLY, all the jokes stopped!
>
As a matter of fact, later in the game everything gets much more more
serious and bleak. That's when the jokes stop. You don't see Hiro saying
something like "I can see up Lucia's dress and she ain't wearin' panties!"
in the cinema where Zophar kidnaps her, do you? Oh wait nevermind, Monkey
Boy never got that far. My bad.
Colt Duncan
Frank M. Goldman
John F. Lee <jfl...@u.washington.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.95.970225...@saul5.u.washington.edu>...
> On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Dragonmaster Lou wrote:
>
> > In article <5eqd9p$8...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, jfl...@u.washington.edu
(John F. Lee) wrote:
> >
> > >Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I
have
> > >to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> > >seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
> >
> > Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by
name. :)
>
> He was replying to you. He said something like "you and all the rest of
> Vic Ireland's personal cadre of Nazis", or some similar thing. I
> distinctly remember laughing my ass off.
Ooo,Ooo, can I be in Vic Ireland's personal cadre of Nazi's too???
Can I Vic, Can I??? (Notice: Vic's Personal cadre of Nazi's is a trademark
of Nick Rox for Ethical Treatment of Monkey Boys and Die Hard Lame Fan.)
Colt Duncan
Greg Sewart
Net Newz wrote:
>
> Greg, Alpha was a long time ago. He only said he prefers the PS version
> to the Alpha one. The audio on the Saturn version WAS slightly snapped.
But that wasn't his point. He said that the blue shadows weren't there,
and therefore, for him, it just wasn't teh arcade version. However, the
blue shadows _Were_ there. And I agree that it was a long time ago, but
what's wrong with him. Every other editor had teh balls to retract
thier statements, why not Nick? As far as teh sound goes, I agree 100%,
but that was _not_ the reason Nick gave for teh Saturn version, in his
eyes, being inferior.
> I agree with his year in review. Everyone else talked about the past
> year, he was brave enough to break the mold that had been done to death by
> everyone else.
Uhhh.... The title of the section was "Editors Year in Review '96". Let
me know what part of that you don't understand.
This was the only section he is able to truly voice his
> opinion on things like the lack of 2D.
Wrong, he talks about it every issue, in very appropiate places. See
Mega Man 8 review, see Lomax in Lemming Land review, etc.
I have no problem with that when
> everyone else has talked about what happened in the year, as if we were
> living in a cave or something.
Again, check the title. Are you saying that you'd agree with Nick
writing an article on the viability of hte Saturn in the Viewpoints
section. The titles are there for a reason.
Besides, he did wrap things up in the end
> about the industry.
Yeah- PS- Rocked, Saturn- Pretty cool, N64- three games. Hell, my dog
could write a better article, Nick's really earnin that paycheque, eh?
--
Greg
Editor
Gaming Enthusiast Online
http://www.gaming-enthusiast.com/
"Over-specialize and you breed in weakness."
-Ghost in the Shell
Saturn/Playstation/Nintendo64/GenesisCDX
Greg Sewart
Net Newz wrote:
> First of all, I'm not a fanboy! I'm simply sticking up for a friend, thaz
> all...
Good for you, very noble
He never lied.
Sorry, he did, how else do you explain it.
And if he did, it would be for a good cause.
No, it wasn't for a good cause, it was to add false credit. He lied so
that his review sounded more impressive, and to make it more credible.
Not a good cause, just deception and ego boosting.
He
> was asking about the boss just to see if people were having a difficult
> time with it. He may have thought the boss seemed a bit more difficult in
> the U.S. version (which turned out to be false) and wanted to check with
> you guys to be sure.
Sure, hindsight's 20/20. It's easy to say now that that was his reason.
I guess we'll never know, but, personally, I have lost respect for him
as a reviewer.
Greg Sewart
Yes there is, where were you when this was actually an issue? Why
didn't you defend him then? Fact is that you've stirred up the bees
nest again, since you started these stupid threads. Face it, it's
useless to defend Nick so long after the fact, anyone who was around at
the time of the altercation have long since made up thier minds on the
issue.
Joe Ottoson
> Ooo,Ooo, can I be in Vic Ireland's personal cadre of Nazi's too???
> Can I Vic, Can I??? (Notice: Vic's Personal cadre of Nazi's is a trademark
> of Nick Rox for Ethical Treatment of Monkey Boys and Die Hard Lame Fan.)
>
link from Saturday Night Live) wearing a blonde wig and granny
sunglasses as he chows down on that apple ;-O
Naughty, naughty Mr. Peepers (the name fits someone who can tell a 2%
frameloss)
Net Newz
>Reason No. 1# Subscribing
Need I say more? I didn't get any of my mags for three months, then got
two copies of the previous month's issue. GameFan may have it's good
points, but that's if you actually get your copy. I'd rather lose money
buying them from the stand than 'subscribing' and getting half my issues
at the end of the month.<
This is not a problem with the magazine. It is a problem with the
publishing house and distribution. It in no way diminishes the editorial
content of Game Fan Magazine. Currently, our staff is doing everything in
our power to bring everyone their issues on time. Hopefully, the problem
shall vanish by the time you receive your next issue, which should also
arrive on time. If not call our customer support line at 1-888-GAMEFAN
Net Newz
>Do you have to state in every one of your posts how Monkey Boy is
"one of the most die hard game enthusiasts"? People don't care
how die hard he is. The fact remains that he is a VERY poor
writer, has been caught lying, and has tried to decieve redears
of Gamefan.
IMO, Next Generation is the magazine of choice. Good honest
reviews with a higher level of maturity clearly above anything
Gamefan editors can write.<
sorry dude, simply your personal opinion. I happen to disagree. Nick
Rox, NOT Monkey Boy as I refuse to call him, I call a die hard gamer
because he is. He goes days without sleep slaving over layouts, reviews
and gameplay. Something few of you will ever achieve. Do this, THEN
complain about Nick's talent.
Net Newz
>Ooo,Ooo, can I be in Vic Ireland's personal cadre of Nazi's too???
Can I Vic, Can I??? (Notice: Vic's Personal cadre of Nazi's is a
trademark
of Nick Rox for Ethical Treatment of Monkey Boys and Die Hard Lame Fan.)<
LOL, no I take that back, ROTFL! yeah yeah, but Nick AINT a fuckin'
monkey man...of course nothing I do or so will change your opinion on
that...might as well make the best of it!
Poom Nukulkij
In article <5ev2n3$9...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, ste...@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
(nathan stehle) wrote:
> net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
>
>
> >Nick is FLUENT is Japanese. I've HEARD him converse with Casey (Takuhi)!
> >Odd, I was under the impression he was popular here. Although I can see
> >why not, cuz all you Nick Rox haters scared his ass off! I'll have to
> >tell him what's goin' down...
>
> Then maybe he will take the Japanese test Vic offered to give him awhile ago
> then. You tell him, and see what happens. It would be good for a laugh
> or a hundred.
No doubt--my ex-roommate studied Japanese for four years in college, and
I'd HARDLY call him fluent in the language. This isn't an insult--it's
damn hard to be fluent unless it's your native language, or you've been in
the culture for a long spell. I'll bet the extent of Nick's knowledge of
Japanese covers the basic Kanji for words like GAMER OVER, START, and
EASY.
--
Poom Nukulkij (pon9...@uconnvm.uconn.edu)
http://www.ucc.uconn.edu/~pon96001/VG.HTML (Updated Jan. 24)
Department of Psychology, University of Connecticut
"Seize the day. Never have regrets."
Kazenoyume
<<VERY funny...That's really, very funny... the reason you're wrong is
the
fact that this is all your OPINION, but it's very funny. It's Nick's
opinion about certain games, and it's YOUR opinion that he is wrong.>>
An opinion shared by 99% of everyone else on this newsgroup. Aren't you
starting to feel a little lonely?
Tim S. Nelson
> In article <5eqd9p$8...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, jfl...@u.washington.edu
(John F. Lee) wrote:
>
> >Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I
have
> >to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
> >seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
> Hey, where was this? Hehe, I don't remember him referring to me by name.
:)
>
Hmmm... What a choice. To be Vic's personal Nazi, or to be organgrinder
Halverson's personal hand organ monkey neandering here and there screeching
in people's faces and generally pissing them off. Personally, I'd rather
be Vic's flunkie... I hear working designs' guns are longer than average :)
What do you, the viewer at home think???
Net Newz
if you read my other posts, you'll find the answer to that question foo!
Victor Ireland
>because he is. He goes days without sleep slaving over layouts,
reviews
and gameplay. Something few of you will ever achieve. Do this, THEN
complain about Nick's talent.<
Sounds more like a slave for Gamefan trying in vain to legitimize his
title of "editor." Obviously this position in the real world is far
beyond his current level of writing and analysis. Die hard gamer?
Probably. Fanatic? Definitely. Well intentioned? Most likely. Editor?
Um....yeah, right.
DBTH - Vic
Victor Ireland
>This is not a problem with the magazine. It is a problem with the
>publishing house and distribution. It in no way diminishes the
editorial
>content of Game Fan Magazine.
When you use this excuse for OVER two years, it loses its impact. Maybe
your subscriber renewal department should take over distribution. They
seem VERY on-the-ball, with renewal forms arriving right on time, and
many cases, early.
> Currently, our staff is doing everything in
>our power to bring everyone their issues on time.
^^^^^^
Ah, I was waiting for this slip of the virtual tongue. Who are you at
Gamefan? Nick himself? A phone grunt for Game Cave? Don't tell me you're
Takuhi? It would seriously diminish my opinion of Casey...
DBTH - Vic
David Oldridge
1/3 missing frames I can believe. 2/3 missing frames is pushing things a
tad IMO, which is what I think I read in his review of the game.
Does anyone still have that issue? It would be interesting to have the
exact quote to go by. (Not like that's the only piece of evidence against
Monkey Boy though.)
John Hokanson Jr.
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:24:03 -0600, Joe Ottoson
<jaot...@fortlewis.edu> wrote:
>> Right on ma' man! I fully support Nick and Dave's decision on that one,
>> and back them up 100%. Where are they anyway? They usually check out
>> rec.games.video.sega often, and I'm sure they'd like to speak on their
>> behalf.
>
>I've almost never seen a response from Nick, Dave or the rest. (well,
>Shidoshi does comment every one and awhile) Like EGM and Gamepro's
>usenet presence, if they're there, they're lurking and not talking...
>
>I guess they avoid commenting becasue they realize they're not
>especially popular around here ;-)
With good reason.
And EGM is so far f*cked up nowadays.......They have really lost touch
with the Saturn owners. They need less PSX....
John Hokanson Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:27:05 -0600, Vance Palodichuk
<vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
>John F. Lee wrote:
>>
>> In article <330FE1...@usinternet.com>,
>> Vance Palodichuk <vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
>> >John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
>> >
>> >> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
>> >> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
>> >
>> >This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
>> >through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
>> >not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
>> >review! No more ads!"
>>
>> Well, I can tell you that I've pissed off a few companies myself (EA, for
>> one, felt the need to tell me that the goaltenders are _not_ slow, and
>> they have John Vanbiesbrouck to back them up), but, hey, it's their money.
>> Plus, you're not taking into account the circumstancesof this incident.
>
>EA told you that? Their stupid, then. The goalies (in NHL 97, I
>assume) are slower than shit. And impossible to control manually! The
>goalies are the only real problem in an otherwise excellent game.
>
>> MBR: It sucks because...
>>
>> WD: That's not true. No more ads.
>>
>> GF: You're right. What can we do to get you back?
>>
>> WD: Print a retraction.
>>
>> GF: Hell, no!
>>
>> Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
>> to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
>> seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
>
>I'd still be pissed they did whatever their advertisers told them too
>just because they disagree with the review.
>
That's just it.....They DIDN't! If they did what was proper and
printed a retraction to a absolutely asinine review, then this whole
messy business could have been avoided. But hell, Gamefan's
shit doesn't stink!
John Hokanson Jr.
On 24 Feb 1997 23:13:45 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>>You know, I haven't played LunarEB in awhile, but there's this little
>thing called a SAVE function. And I know that you don't play ten straight
>hours without saving every half hour or so...especially not in a RPG.<
>
>he didn't need to play through the entire game. It's not like the end
>changed dramatically or anything! He vigorously played through the
>import, and felt 10 hours was enough to get a good enough feel for the
>busted, somewhat snapped, and humor-ridden American translation. It was.
>Again, it's not like after 10 hours, SUDDENLY, all the jokes stopped!
Ah...but see....Gamefan policy was that all games would be FINISHED
BEFORE THEY WERE TO BE REVIEWED! He broke the rules.
I don't give a rats ass what he thought. The only time we would care
about his thoughts is when we read his reviews.
John Hokanson Jr.
On 23 Feb 1997 21:36:57 GMT, jfl...@u.washington.edu (John F. Lee)
wrote:
>In article <330FE1...@usinternet.com>,
>Vance Palodichuk <vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
>>John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
>>> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
>>
>>This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
>>through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
>>not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
>>review! No more ads!"
>
>Well, I can tell you that I've pissed off a few companies myself (EA, for
>one, felt the need to tell me that the goaltenders are _not_ slow, and
>they have John Vanbiesbrouck to back them up), but, hey, it's their money.
>Plus, you're not taking into account the circumstancesof this incident.
>
>MBR: It sucks because...
>
>WD: That's not true. No more ads.
>
>GF: You're right. What can we do to get you back?
>
>WD: Print a retraction.
>
>GF: Hell, no!
>
>Speaking as someone who actually has to pay for most of his games, I have
>to side with Vic Ireland on this topic. Although it was kind of funny
>seeing Dave Halverson call Lou Arruda Vic's personal Nazi.
>
>--
HA! I must have missed that. The day we Lunar fans become the
equilvent of Nazi Stormtroopers is the day I grow wings and fly.
John Hokanson Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:18:54 -0600, Vance Palodichuk
<vpal...@usinternet.com> wrote:
>John Hokanson Jr. wrote:
>>
>> >I very seriously doubt you'll get any sympathy from anyone in this newsgroup after
>> >the remarks he has made about the Saturn. First there was that big SF Alpha thing,
>> >then after that he would make small snaps at the Saturn about every issue. I
>> >remember his review on Panzer Dragoon 2 when he ended it with "This game
>> >couldn't get any better, ESPECIALLY on Saturn", and then his review where he was
>> >supposed to tell us how much better the Saturn version of Alpha 2 was somehow
>> >disappeared. There's nothing worse than a biased reviewer, except the magazine
>> >they work for!
>> >
>> >Gloworm
>>
>> You seem to be forgetting the number he did on Lunar: Eternal Blue. He
>> bashed the game because of it's so-called "childish" humor, and then
>> openly admited that he didn't play the game all the way through.
>
>I'm not into WD humor, but I don't think it should effect the game's
>score that much. Nick is a biased dick-face, and he shouldn't be in a
>magazine, much less play games.
>
>> Furthermore, he claims to know Japanese, but refuses to offer proof to
>> in order to substantiate this.
>>
>> And last time I checked, WD is still boycotting Gamefan because of
>> this. They refuse to run any of their ads in Gamefan Magazine.
>
>This pisses me off. Where does WD get off tring to influence magazines
>through advertising dollars? I applaud Gamefan for their dicision to
>not do whatever the advertisers demand. "Hey! I don't like your
>review! No more ads!"
>
So let me get this stright. You think Nick is an asshole, but you hate
the fact that WD pulled thier advertising. Himmm...sounds to me like
you don't care much for either party.
It is true that two wrongs don't make a right. But the decision to
pull the advertising out of Gamefan was a perfectly valid and
understandable one. Vic was obviously mad, and with good reason.
I would be kinda pissed too if I had my game chastised for such
rediculous reasons.
- John
John Hokanson Jr.
On 24 Feb 1997 08:01:06 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>>If he's such a game enthusiast, how come he doesn't finish his games
>before
>reviewing them?<
>
>because not only did he play through the import version of the game, but
>10 hours into the American version it CRASHED. The issue was due the next
>day, so he stayed up all night working on the game's layout.
Oh so now you claim that WD's shoddy programing was the culprit in
this situation? Guys.....I say we run NetNewz out of dodge.
- John
John Hokanson Jr.
On 25 Feb 1997 07:59:34 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>
>First of all, I'm not a fanboy! I'm simply sticking up for a friend, thaz
>all... He never lied. And if he did, it would be for a good cause. He
>was asking about the boss just to see if people were having a difficult
>time with it. He may have thought the boss seemed a bit more difficult in
>the U.S. version (which turned out to be false) and wanted to check with
>you guys to be sure.
All I can say is that you're full of crap. The excuse that you just
gave us is so weak it's practically funny.
Why would Monkey Boy give a damn about other people's experiences
with the said boss? What! Is he a good Samaritan now?
- John
John Hokanson Jr.
On 26 Feb 1997 01:29:40 GMT, gj...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim S.
Nelson) wrote:
>>
>Hmmm... What a choice. To be Vic's personal Nazi, or to be organgrinder
>Halverson's personal hand organ monkey neandering here and there screeching
>in people's faces and generally pissing them off. Personally, I'd rather
>be Vic's flunkie... I hear working designs' guns are longer than average :)
>What do you, the viewer at home think???
I'll take door number 1 Mr. Nealson!
Where can I pick up my Nazi SS uniform. >:)
- John
John Hokanson Jr.
On 24 Feb 1997 01:32:06 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>>John F. Lee / jfl...@u.washington.edu
>Online Gaming Raview - http://console.ogr.com
>We're like that other magazine, but we don't
>have a monkey... a really bad monkey!!<
>
>Enough with the Monkey talk! Nick is in NO way a monkey!!!!
I think you should know by know that the "moniker" (pun intended)
Monkey Boy has been engraved in everybody's head. Besides, the name is
so fitting. :)
- John
John Hokanson Jr.
On 25 Feb 1997 08:21:28 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>
>Nick is FLUENT is Japanese. I've HEARD him converse with Casey (Takuhi)!
>Odd, I was under the impression he was popular here. Although I can see
>why not, cuz all you Nick Rox haters scared his ass off! I'll have to
>tell him what's goin' down...
Yes......run little lacky.....run to your master! >:)
Why are 90% of AOL users assholes?
John Hokanson Jr.
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:25:09 GMT, wep...@netscorp.net (WepaMan)
wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:53:35 -0500, Steve Thomason
><thom...@carleton.edu> wrote:
>
>>Well, I'd like to ask all of you Nick Rox bashers a couple of
>>questions. The first question actually concerns GameFan. How did
>>GameFan benefit from not submitting to WD's pressure? They are missing
>>out on advertising dollars. Secondly, did any of you ever
>>stop to think that some people may enjoy Nick Rox writing style?
>>It's all a matter of taste. I would also like to point out again that
>>Nick Rox has statistically rated Saturn games higher than PS games.
>>This is PROOF against his bias. Let's see some proof for his bias.
>>The LUNAR thing was just due to a bad situation that no one is really to
>>blame for. The SF Alpah review was lame, but hey, it was just a matter
>>of opinion. Fact is, I'm a die-hard Sega fan, yet GameFan is the only
>>magazine I subscribe to because they are the only ones that give the
>>Saturn a fair shake. They are also the only ones that truly
>>understood what made LUNAR a legend. It'd just like to see some of you
>>so-called Sega fans to cut the least biased magazine out there some
>>slack.
>>
>>SegaBoy
>
>Lets see, "Nick Rox writing style." Simple, repetative, uninformed,
>biased, racist, and about as much coherent substance as a Mento's
>commercial.
That's cute, I'll have to remember that one. Have you ever heard the
joke about the guy that murdered his entire family and got away with
it because he showed a roll of mentos to the cops and they laughed
and let him got.
But seriously, I've gone off topic.
>The only people who could possible admire his "style" are
>the same shmucks who buy the mag for "the real kool pictures."
>
>Oh yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoy his writing
>style. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure "those little jap
>bastards" have already forgiven him by now.
>
>By the way, did anyone ever figure out what it was "those guys at
>Namco smoke"?
>
>
Juding by your writing style, I'd have to say that your being
sarcastic (at least that's what I hope).
Regardless, you make several good points. If Monkey Boy continues this
pethetic writing style, I wonder how he could possibly expect respect
in return.
John Hokanson Jr.
On 24 Feb 1997 00:15:32 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>>Either way, you have to admit, his video game views obviously don't sit
>well with 90% of all Saturn owners, and he seems, to me, anyway, to have
>some really wierd views, and too much of a 'purist'.<
>
>I agree, but Sega fans seem to HATE him. That's their opinion I suppose.
>I just wish they wouldn't be so mean about it!
Sorry, I can't be nice to such a obvious lier. His indiscretions have
hurt WD, the Saturn, and perhaps Sega in general.
David Oldridge
> because he is. He goes days without sleep slaving over layouts,
> reviews
> and gameplay. Something few of you will ever achieve. Do this, THEN
> complain about Nick's talent.
The end result still looks amaturish and unprofessional in many respects
though. The fact that it takes Monkey Boy more effort than most people to
get there is irrelevent; in fact, it makes him look worse.
goff...@concentric.net
In article <19970226000...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>
> >Reason No. 1# Subscribing
>
> Need I say more? I didn't get any of my mags for three months, then got
> two copies of the previous month's issue. GameFan may have it's good
> points, but that's if you actually get your copy. I'd rather lose money
> buying them from the stand than 'subscribing' and getting half my issues
> at the end of the month.<
>
> publishing house and distribution. It in no way diminishes the editorial
> our power to bring everyone their issues on time. Hopefully, the problem
> shall vanish by the time you receive your next issue, which should also
> arrive on time. If not call our customer support line at 1-888-GAMEFAN
I have the exact same problem. I get 2 or 3 mags in a row
(if I'm lucky) then nothing for 2 months. Plus the stupid
Gamefan number doesn't even work here in Canada so I have
to send a letter. Then all I get is my subscription extended
1 month. I've done this so many times my subscription won't
run out until almost the year 2000.
Carnage!
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Net Newz
>No doubt--my ex-roommate studied Japanese for four years in college, and
I'd HARDLY call him fluent in the language. This isn't an insult--it's
damn hard to be fluent unless it's your native language, or you've been in
the culture for a long spell. I'll bet the extent of Nick's knowledge of
Japanese covers the basic Kanji for words like GAMER OVER, START, and
EASY.<
Nick has learned Japanese for many, many years, and is fluent. I dunno
about you, but my aunt is Japanese. If she says he's fluent, he is!
nathan stehle
net...@aol.com (Net Newz) writes:
Again, I'd like Nick to take the test that Vic offered to give. If he passes,
then all the Nick Rox doubters here will eat crow.
--
Nathan Stehle
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes."
Mazer Rackham in Orson Scott Card's "Ender's Game"
John Hokanson Jr.
On 26 Feb 1997 20:41:41 GMT, net...@aol.com (Net Newz) wrote:
>
>>No doubt--my ex-roommate studied Japanese for four years in college, and
>I'd HARDLY call him fluent in the language. This isn't an insult--it's
>damn hard to be fluent unless it's your native language, or you've been in
>the culture for a long spell. I'll bet the extent of Nick's knowledge of
>Japanese covers the basic Kanji for words like GAMER OVER, START, and
>EASY.<
>
>Nick has learned Japanese for many, many years, and is fluent. I dunno
>about you, but my aunt is Japanese. If she says he's fluent, he is!
So let's see......Nick is what......17, 18? And you claim that he's
been studing Japanese for many years and is fluent. Yeah right....
As for you aunt....I don't know where she gets off. Perhaps she is
just being kind to monkey boy (that is, if this rediculous story is
even true). Most People I know don't even become the slightest
bit fluent until 8 or 10 years of hard studying and constant use of
the langauge.
- John