FF3 : Shadow's Dreams
Brian Seguin
I've seen the one when you find him in the WOR (I want you and the girl
to lead a peaceful life), the nightmare (Black screen, evil music, kinda
scary, actually), the happy part (One million gold coins!), the grisly
part (Is this MY blood? Kill me! Kill me!), and the Thamasa part (You're
in Thama...)
Are there any others? I'd like to know what kicked Baram's ass so badly,
to round out the story...
-Z
Louis Y Wang
: In article <3itkg2$j...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>,
: Brian Seguin <bse...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> wrote:
: >Well, it seems I've found all of Shadow's dreams.
: get if Shadow is dead where Relm is having a Nightmare too ("Is daddy ever
: coming back?") THat is a total of six dreams. Most of them tell of Shadows
: past, except the nighmare where the Black screen and the evil music are
: present. This one seems to be directed toward his present. My question
: now becomes is Shadow really supposed to look for Baram because of this dream.
: That would make his segment of the game more complete. At the end of the
: game when everyone is talking about the joys they have found in the world,
: Shadow says, "I have learned the value of friends... and family"
: Never once does he actually confront this part of his past. All the
: other characters have their own scenario that heals the wounds of their
: pasts (Locke's lost Rachel, Terra's confusion, Edgar and Sabin's breaking
: up because of their father's death, etc.) Except Relm and Shadow. There
: just HAS to be something in the game the confronts this, and doesn't leave
: it all to our guesses like the dreams do. If anyone can find this scenario
: I and I am sure many others would like to know, seriously.
: Don't try too hard :)
: The Night Fox
: -When all is lost there are no risks because there is nothing left to lose
Relm had Strago.. but My question is about a fifth dream. In the FAQ, it
says you get the first 4 dreams 1/4 times you rest at an inn. A fifth
dream can be gotten 1/32 times sleeping.. anyone get that one yet?
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Arix Foxnight
<as...@orion.alaska.edu> wrote:
>>>to lead a peaceful life), the nightmare (Black screen, evil music, kinda
>>>scary, actually), the happy part (One million gold coins!), the grisly
>>>part (Is this MY blood? Kill me! Kill me!), and the Thamasa part (You're
>>>in Thama...)
>
>> get if Shadow is dead where Relm is having a Nightmare too ("Is daddy ever
>> coming back?")
Yeah that is a pretty safe assumption. The dream where Shadow(Clyde)
says "I want you and the girl to lead a peaceful life" to his dog happens
when you first rescue Shadow from the Sr Behemoths in the cave in the
Veldt.
However, because of the recent article in GamePro and certain other
articles, and other "in-game" evidence, I believe that there is a
"fifth" dream. What it seems it is going to be about is the explanation
of the Memento Ring and how Relm's mother died.(Assuming Shadow is Relm's
father of course.)
Any other ideas?
The Night Fox
- Is Erdrick Dead? Maybe Sigfried is Erdrick!?
Brian Seguin
: Yeah that is a pretty safe assumption. The dream where Shadow(Clyde)
: says "I want you and the girl to lead a peaceful life" to his dog happens
: when you first rescue Shadow from the Sr Behemoths in the cave in the
: Veldt.
: However, because of the recent article in GamePro and certain other
: articles, and other "in-game" evidence, I believe that there is a
: "fifth" dream. What it seems it is going to be about is the explanation
: of the Memento Ring and how Relm's mother died.(Assuming Shadow is Relm's
: father of course.)
: Any other ideas?
Problem is, I've seen a lot of posts on this newsgroup (I don't get alt.games.
final-fantasy, which really pisses me off) that say "I've slept in an inn 800
times, and I still haven't seen the fifth (sixth? seventh?) dream!". So
finding it could be a problem.
And while we're talking about FF3, I'd like to bring up something. Doesn't
it have the greatest character development EVER, in ANY game? I mean, jesus,
there are what, twelve regular characters, and ALL of them have a detailed
story. The fact that we're speculating about two of them being tied together
indicates that Square has finally hit a grand slam. No wonder I want to work
for them. :)
Good job, guys!
-Z
as...@orion.alaska.edu
>>I've seen the one when you find him in the WOR (I want you and the girl
>>to lead a peaceful life), the nightmare (Black screen, evil music, kinda
>>scary, actually), the happy part (One million gold coins!), the grisly
>>part (Is this MY blood? Kill me! Kill me!), and the Thamasa part (You're
>>in Thama...)
Which one was the fifth dream you had? I remember the Thamasa dream, but
I've only seen four of them . . . I think. Still trying to find the
fifth dream. Actually, I don't remember the "want you and the girl to
lead a peaceful life" dream. Was this the first one you had?
> Okay, these are all the dreams I have seen as well. And the one that you
> get if Shadow is dead where Relm is having a Nightmare too ("Is daddy ever
> coming back?")
I guess it's safe to assume Relm is Shadow's daughter, then?
-=-=- Scott Tengelin
Brooke Lee
>engl...@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (A. Foxnight) writes:
>> fifth dream. Actually, I don't remember the "want you and the girl to
>> lead a peaceful life" dream. Was this the first one you had?
If you waited for Shadow on the floating island, then found him in the
cave on the veldt, then brought him to thamasa, then you get that dream
Croaker : F2WTWO,BNAB...
> In article <1995Feb28...@orion.alaska.edu> as...@orion.alaska.edu
>
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> Robbie
i've mannaged to see three of shadows dreams and there about him being some guy
named baram the bank robber and a side kick.... what gives?
--croaker
Anthony Comberiate
Given the vast amount of information I've gone through involving
Shadow and Relm, I concluded a while back that relm is Shadow's daughter.
(I've also concluded that Shadow _is_ a male, his name is Clyde, that he
and Relm both have "dearly departed mothers" (to wear the Memento Ring),
and that you can get Baram by using the Vanish-Fire28 trick on Intangir
and cutting his mask off with the Holy Scissors. Oops, sorry; forget that
last one (too much Bogus FAQ).)
Anyway, according to the dreams, Baram supposedly dies. He gets
mortally wounded after commiting some crime, and tries to convince Clyde
to kill him painlessly, but Clyde doesn't. There's no other sidekick, and
the story all seemed to make sense to me.
as...@orion.alaska.edu
> (I've also concluded that Shadow _is_ a male, his name is Clyde, that he
> and Relm both have "dearly departed mothers" (to wear the Memento Ring),
I'd say that the Memento Rings can be used by Shadow because she was his
wife. But then, why would Shadow have one of them, too? I guess the
question is: where did the Memento Rings come from?
My theory: Relm has hers from her dear, departed mother. In the
upstairs bedroom, there is another one. Relm's mother left this one
there in case the other one got lost.
Theory #2: It's Relm's mother's, but Shadow had one, too; making
the second ring . . . her wedding ring!
-=-=- Scott Teng
Dan Posluns
> to lead a peaceful life), the nightmare (Black screen, evil music, kinda
> scary, actually), the happy part (One million gold coins!), the grisly
> part (Is this MY blood? Kill me! Kill me!), and the Thamasa part
> (You're in Thama...)
I don't know where this fits into it, but I've seen a dream Relm has where
she first wakes in Thamasa with Strago, wondering where her "papa" is, if
anyone knows how this fits in please tell me...
Robbie De Arras
Auctualy his name is Clyde, Baram is his partner.
Robbie
PS: My address has changed! from now on, write to j...@maduin.westlab.com
instead of j...@yoshi.handheld.com
Thanks!
sha...@infoex.cts.com
IG> i've mannaged to see three of shadows dreams and there about him being some
IG> guy
IG> named baram the bank robber and a side kick.... what gives?
I've just recently started searching for Shadow's dreams. I've only
found one so far, and it's the really spooky one. Do you have to be in
a certain town, because I've been sleeping in Thamasa forever, and can't
get one, but in the one all the way on the left of Serpent Trench, I got
it on the first try.
B L O O D S H O T ' S
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Ananke
Seguin) says:
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>Arix Foxnight (foxn...@expert.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
>: Yeah that is a pretty safe assumption. The dream where Shadow(Clyde)
>: says "I want you and the girl to lead a peaceful life" to his dog happens
>: when you first rescue Shadow from the Sr Behemoths in the cave in the
>: Veldt.
>: However, because of the recent article in GamePro and certain other
>: articles, and other "in-game" evidence, I believe that there is a
>: "fifth" dream. What it seems it is going to be about is the explanation
>: of the Memento Ring and how Relm's mother died.(Assuming Shadow is Relm's
>: father of course.)
>: Any other ideas?
>
the first floor near the table is a desk with a book on it. There doesn't seem
to be any way to reach it. It might be a diary or something that has something
to do with Shadow.
> -Kagan
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