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JohnDonld

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Aug 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/19/95
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Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX first!
Sony will now prevail.


John Donnald

Vega Bros.

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In <413rnc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> john...@aol.com (JohnDonld)
writes:
>
>
> Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX
first!
>Sony will now prevail.

Ok, whatever. "Nobody" wants that Red and Black crap? Do you speak for
the WHOLE newsgroup? You shouldn't speak for others. The U64 will
dominate, $250 with pack in! See ya

Vega Bros.

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What's in the Virtual Boy package (Source: Nintendo's WWW site)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Processor: 32-bit RISC CPU

Speed: 20MHz

Display: RTI Dual mirror-scan, high resolution LED displays

Resolution: 384 x 224 pixels for each eye

Software: 8 or 16 Megabit ROM Game Paks
(standard configurations)

Sound: Digital Stereo Sound (self-contained speaker system)

Controller: Double-grip with two directional control buttons

Two Player: Playlink Cable (not included) connects two Virtual-
Boys

Pack In Game: Mario's Tennis
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

For $169.95 you get ALL the above. Also note that the 8 or 16 Megabit
Game Paks can increase (Nintendo just gave us the standard
configurations), and with compression techniques, they can fit even
bigger games in those small carts.

Now, exactly which companies are working for it?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'max
Activision
Acclaim Japan
Ascii
Atlus
Virgin Interactive
Enix
Electronics Arts
Capcom
Culture Brain
Kemco
Konami
Koei
Sunsoft
Jaleco
Sammy
Square
Seta
Taito
Takara
Data East
Tecmo
Hudson
Bandai
Pony Canyon
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Expect to see some really awesome games for the Virtual Boy. Final
Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Zelda, Metroid, DKC, KI, EarthWorm Jim,
Street Fighter, Mega Man are ALL very possible Virtual Boy titles.
As a matter of fact, RARE announced that they are working on TWO
Virtual Boy titles, KI and DKC would be the obivous choices.

Also, if you are thinking of getting rid of your SNES (I don't know why
you would, especially with AWESOME games coming out this Fall), you
can get $100 store credit at Babbage's if you return a SNES with 3
games. That means you can get a Virtual Boy for ONLY $69.95!

If you are still not sure of the Virtual Boy, go to BlockBuster and
rent it. They have a promotion going on where you can rent a Virtual
Boy plus TWO games for two night for $10, and when you return it, they
will give you a $10 coupon off a Virtual Boy. But DON'T listen to other
people who say that this system is no good, try it for yourself.

-VegaBros

Farlander

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Aug 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/19/95
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O.k. now see....why exactly are you making a U64 reference here? It
has absolutly nothing to do with anything. Plus,I think he DOES speak
for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap. If the
Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten 16
colors out of it. Even four colors would be a big improvment over two.


Farlander

(When the worlds have crumbled, and the masses look for a savior, Bruce
will be there for us, chainsaw outstretched in friendship. And we will
take his hand(?), and it will be good...) -The Book of Bruce 9:13


Derek Kisman

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Aug 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/19/95
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Farlander (mi...@atc.ameritel.net) wrote:

: O.k. now see....why exactly are you making a U64 reference here? It


: has absolutly nothing to do with anything. Plus,I think he DOES speak
: for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap. If the
: Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten 16
: colors out of it. Even four colors would be a big improvment over two.

Don't know much about how these headset LEDs work, do you?

- Derek Kisman

Chris Pickett

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john...@aol.com (JohnDonld) writes:
>
> Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX first!
> Sony will now prevail.
>
I don't like console systems, so who wants console crap?

Of course, I have not seen/tried a Virtual Boy yet, so I can't make an
authoritative or informed statement about it, or even state an opinion.
All I can say is I like portable gaming systems, and if this system touts
itself as portable, then it's worth a look.

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Vega Bros.

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>Plus,I think he DOES speak
>for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*Did that sentence make sense to anyone?

>If the
>Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten 16
>colors out of it.

*The cost would have been much higher.

I care... Because you do.

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Aug 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/20/95
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JohnDonld (john...@aol.com) wrote:

: Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX first!
: Sony will now prevail.

Shut up, you stupid AOLer. You haven't even played the system.

:
: John Donnald


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Farlander (mi...@atc.ameritel.net) wrote:

: vega...@ix.netcom.com (Vega Bros. ) wrote:

: >In <413rnc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> john...@aol.com (JohnDonld)
: >writes:

: >>
: >>


: >> Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX
: >first!
: >>Sony will now prevail.

: >Ok, whatever. "Nobody" wants that Red and Black crap? Do you speak for


: >the WHOLE newsgroup? You shouldn't speak for others. The U64 will
: >dominate, $250 with pack in! See ya

: O.k. now see....why exactly are you making a U64 reference here? It
: has absolutly nothing to do with anything. Plus,I think he DOES speak
: for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap. If the


: Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten 16

: colors out of it. Even four colors would be a big improvment over two.

Pipe down, bitch. You THINK he speaks for the whole group. Well, you
obviously don't think much, surprise, surprise. There is no red and
black crap.. Do you mean the red and black LED's in the VB? If they had
spend a little extra time, they would have gotten 2 colors.

Don't you read anything, bitch? To have more colors, they would have had
to lower the resolution. You want 320x200 rez, bitch?

: Farlander

Oh no, and here comes the sig...

: (When the worlds have crumbled, and the masses look for a savior, Bruce


: will be there for us, chainsaw outstretched in friendship. And we will
: take his hand(?), and it will be good...) -The Book of Bruce 9:13

:
What in the hell is the book of bruce!?

Vega Bros.

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Aug 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/20/95
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>: O.k. now see....why exactly are you making a U64 reference here? It
>: has absolutly nothing to do with anything. Plus,I think he DOES
speak
>: for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap. If
the
>: Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten
16
>: colors out of it. Even four colors would be a big improvment over
two.
>
>Pipe down, bitch. You THINK he speaks for the whole group. Well, you

>obviously don't think much, surprise, surprise. There is no red and
>black crap.. Do you mean the red and black LED's in the VB? If they
had
>spend a little extra time, they would have gotten 2 colors.
>
>Don't you read anything, bitch? To have more colors, they would have
had
>to lower the resolution. You want 320x200 rez, bitch?

This Farlander claims to have played the Virtual Boy, but I have proven
him wrong. He's just an idiot. I've played it, and it's simply great.
The Tennis game was REALLY fun, playing doubles is too cool. What
people are getting confused at is, that they think that the two little
windows are screens. They are NOT screens, they a reflectlors that
magnify the image. This system has some true brutal power!
32-bit/20mhz, plus 8-16 meg carts (standard)! Can't wait for Mario
Clash! Water World also looks cool. Have fun playing the Virtual Boy :)
The Virtual Tap should be out soon.
___________________
/ \
| VIRTUAL BOY |
| |
|_________/\__________| ________________
|__________/\___________| / ______|_
`-------------------' / |========|
|||||| _/___________|========|
|____| |_____________|________|
OO `------------------'
// \\ | |
// \\ |____|
// \\ ( )
// \\ ---
// \\ \\
// \\ \\
\|||) (|||/

--==<<((STICK YOUR FACE IN A VIRTUAL PLACE))>>==--

GUNDARK

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Aug 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/20/95
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Just to throw in a comment...I doubt that Nintendo intended for the
Virtual Boy to compete with the PSX, that's what the Ultra 64 is for. I
have a feeling that is why the other person mentioned the NU64 in their
post.

The VB is 32-bit, and yes it's red, but it comes with a game and
everything you need for $179. PSX, on the other hand, is $299, and
doesn't come with a game for that price. NU64 will be less than $250,
with a game, and outperform the PSX according to the latest specs on most
reputable websites. This isn't to convince anyone, just to state the
"facts". I have played the VB with all 4 games from my local Blockbuster,
and I enjoyed it. There is simply no other system that delivers these
types of graphics. PSX is a wonderful system (wierd ads, though) and will
do well.

In the future, my money is still on Nintendo, though, as I firmly believe
that PSX and others provide only temporary solutions to the type of games
we should expect. If you look at it, the PSX and Saturn marginally
outperform today's PC's, which all of us are using (except Mac users, of
course). If Nintendo is being straight with us, we can expect much more
from the Ultra 64.

I guess my main point is not to waste time comparing the VB with TV-based
systems, as they are entirely different. Yes, they are competing for the
same dollars, but I believe each can be enjoyed for its own merits. I
really look forward to the 2nd generation games for the VB, especially
those elusive RPG's.

Nice talkin' to ya...
GUN

Vega Bros.

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Aug 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/20/95
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>Just to throw in a comment...I doubt that Nintendo intended for the
>Virtual Boy to compete with the PSX, that's what the Ultra 64 is for.
>I have a feeling that is why the other person mentioned the NU64 in
>their post.

*The Virtual Boy is not intended to compete with the console systems.
The VB is in a market of it's own.


>
>The VB is 32-bit, and yes it's red, but it comes with a game and
>everything you need for $179. PSX, on the other hand, is $299, and
>doesn't come with a game for that price. NU64 will be less than $250,
>with a game, and outperform the PSX according to the latest specs on
>most reputable websites. This isn't to convince anyone, just to state
>the "facts". I have played the VB with all 4 games from my local
>Blockbuster, and I enjoyed it. There is simply no other system that
>delivers these types of graphics. PSX is a wonderful system (wierd
>ads, though) and will do well.

*I agree with you, the Virtual Boy delivers a completely different
gaming experience. The PSX will do VERY well, most people are buying a
PSX now, then a U64 later. The cost-conscience consumer will probably
just wait for the U64 to come out.

>In the future, my money is still on Nintendo, though, as I firmly
>believe that PSX and others provide only temporary solutions to the
>type of games we should expect. If you look at it, the PSX and Saturn
>marginally outperform today's PC's, which all of us are using (except
>Mac users, of course). If Nintendo is being straight with us, we can
>expect much more from the Ultra 64.

*Definitely! The U64 is claimed to do MUCH better than most arcade
games. Cruis'n USA and KI2 are coming to the U64, and Cruis'n USA
is said to be MUCH better than the arcade.

>I guess my main point is not to waste time comparing the VB with
>TV-based systems, as they are entirely different. Yes, they are
>competing for the same dollars, but I believe each can be enjoyed for
>its own merits. I really look forward to the 2nd generation games for
>the VB, especially those elusive RPG's.

*Yes siree! With Enix and Square BOTH making Virtual Boy games, expect
Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger on the Virtual Boy.

>Nice talkin' to ya...

*Same here :)


I care... Because you do.

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> : Pipe down, bitch. You THINK he speaks for the whole group. Well, you=
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> : obviously don't think much, surprise, surprise. There is no red and=20
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> : Don't you read anything, bitch? To have more colors, they would have h=
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> : to lower the resolution. You want 320x200 rez, bitch?
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> : : will be there for us, chainsaw outstretched in friendship. And we wi=
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> : : take his hand(?), and it will be good...) -The Book of Bruce 9:13
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mi...@atc.ameritel.net (Farlander) wrote:
>
> vega...@ix.netcom.com (Vega Bros. ) wrote:
>
> >In <413rnc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> john...@aol.com (JohnDonld)
> >writes:
> >>
Nobody wants that Red and Black crap. I will buy a Sony PSX
> >first!
> >>Sony will now prevail.
>
> >Ok, whatever. "Nobody" wants that Red and Black crap? Do you speak for
> >the WHOLE newsgroup? You shouldn't speak for others. The U64 will
> >dominate, $250 with pack in! See ya
>
> O.k. now see....why exactly are you making a U64 reference here? It
> has absolutly nothing to do with anything. Plus,I think he DOES speak
Why did the first poster make a reference to Sony?

> for the whole group. Nobody does want that red and black crap. If the

He doesn't speak for *me*.

> Big 'N' had spent a little extra time,they could have easily gotten 16
> colors out of it. Even four colors would be a big improvment over two.

VB graphics are done differently. It's not like a CGA monitor. They
are LEDs. It would be possible to do a RGB display is there were
3 different LEDs but that would cost much more. ANyway who cares
about graphics? Have you all gone mad? It gameplay that matters
*GAMEPLAY*

cya


Ray Hopkins

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On 20 Aug 1995, GUNDARK wrote:

> Just to throw in a comment...I doubt that Nintendo intended for the
> Virtual Boy to compete with the PSX, that's what the Ultra 64 is for. I
> have a feeling that is why the other person mentioned the NU64 in their
> post.
>

> The VB is 32-bit, and yes it's red, but it comes with a game and
> everything you need for $179. PSX, on the other hand, is $299, and
> doesn't come with a game for that price. NU64 will be less than $250,
> with a game, and outperform the PSX according to the latest specs on most
> reputable websites. This isn't to convince anyone, just to state the
> "facts". I have played the VB with all 4 games from my local Blockbuster,
> and I enjoyed it. There is simply no other system that delivers these
> types of graphics. PSX is a wonderful system (wierd ads, though) and will
> do well.
>

> In the future, my money is still on Nintendo, though, as I firmly believe
> that PSX and others provide only temporary solutions to the type of games
> we should expect. If you look at it, the PSX and Saturn marginally
> outperform today's PC's, which all of us are using (except Mac users, of
> course). If Nintendo is being straight with us, we can expect much more
> from the Ultra 64.
>

> I guess my main point is not to waste time comparing the VB with TV-based
> systems, as they are entirely different. Yes, they are competing for the
> same dollars, but I believe each can be enjoyed for its own merits. I
> really look forward to the 2nd generation games for the VB, especially
> those elusive RPG's.
>

> Nice talkin' to ya...
> GUN
>
>

If I'm reading this right, you're saying that it makes more sense to buy
the Virtual Boy than the PSX????

vide...@suphwyonline.com

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think 16 colors are not avablie now maybe not. But just wait to next
year at christmas time and see all the colors. its the old bait routine
you buy now. then when you think you are settled into a great system
just like magic a new one is there.

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>think 16 colors are not avablie now maybe not. But just wait to next
>year at christmas time and see all the colors. its the old bait routine
>you buy now. then when you think you are settled into a great system
>just like magic a new one is there.

Nope.

Think about it.

Why red and black? Why not blue and black? Or green and black?

One word: LAWSUITS.

It's a commonly known fact that red light has the -least- impact on
your eyes; just ask any stargazer -- when they need to use a
flashlight, they use a RED tinted flashlight so that they don't blow
away several hours worth of accomodation to night vision.

Nintendo used red light (IMHO) because they are aware of the studies
which show that eye damage can result from strapping tv sets an inch
away from your face. I'd be willing to bet the stupid "you have to
squat to use it" design has a lot to do with this too ('virtual'
helmets are well known for screwing up people's sense of balance).

Of course, none of this changes the fact that the machine sucks beyond
all comprehension.

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In article <x791ob6...@blindman.lm.com>
pet...@blindman.lm.com (Peter Berger) writes:

> In article <7965-18...@suphwyonline.com> vide...@suphwyonline.com writes:
> >think 16 colors are not avablie now maybe not. But just wait to next
> >year at christmas time and see all the colors. its the old bait routine
> >you buy now. then when you think you are settled into a great system
> >just like magic a new one is there.
>
> Nope.
>
> Think about it.
>
> Why red and black? Why not blue and black? Or green and black?
>
> One word: LAWSUITS.
>
> It's a commonly known fact that red light has the -least- impact on
> your eyes; just ask any stargazer -- when they need to use a
> flashlight, they use a RED tinted flashlight so that they don't blow
> away several hours worth of accomodation to night vision.
>
> Nintendo used red light (IMHO) because they are aware of the studies
> which show that eye damage can result from strapping tv sets an inch
> away from your face.

You, sir, are speaking of things you know little about. Why is the VB
display red and black? Simple. The black is obvious. The display method
uses a single verticle column of led's, and a reflecting system that
rasters this column horizontally to produce a 2-d image for each eye.
The only inexpensive, reliable led's available on the market these days
emit in the red frequency range. It is that simple.

Green and blue emitting led's do exist (which would permit color
displays using this technique), but they are very expensive and using
them would reduce the resolution of the image. (3 color pixels would be
needed for every image point, so the resolution would be 1/3 that of
the VB display, using the same led density.)

[Just correcting some bogus misinformation before someone actually
*believes* it!!]

>
> Of course, none of this changes the fact that the machine sucks beyond
> all comprehension.

Dunno, I haven't tried one yet! (But many people seem to enjoy it.)
Have *you* used one?


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Alex Hutton

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vide...@suphwyonline.com wrote:
>
>
> think 16 colors are not avablie now maybe not. But just wait to next
> year at christmas time and see all the colors. its the old bait routine
> you buy now. then when you think you are settled into a great system
> just like magic a new one is there.

now come on when have *nintendo* ever done that. Besides it's impossible
to have 16colors. It doesn't even workl like that. It doesn't have two
little monocrome monitors you idiot. It has red LEDs. It would be
possible to have a RGB display but do you realise how much that would
cost!?!?!? The main thing about any game system is are the games fun
not how many colors can it display you fool.

cya


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