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Shawn Mayo
1.All new menus and icons. Full color with 8 icon groups and 64 options
in total. You can use the SNES mouse to operate the menus
2.High speed formatting and loading. One of the FASTEST units available
today.
3.Language option allows you to choose between 8 different languages. It
includes : English, German, French, etc..etc.
4.Multi Password System. The Super Wild Card DX will accept almost every
popular type of code including : Goldfinger, Action Replay, Game-Genie
and Front Codes 1+2
5.Built in CHEAT CODE FINDER. Forget about 200-400 BUILT in Codes. You
can MAKE your OWN cheat codes, and save them to disk for use in future
times. Whats the sense of built in codes for older games, this gives
you the option, to enhance any game with INFINITE LIVES/HEALTH ETC.
6.SWC-DX can read ALL copier formats including : Pro-Fighter Series, The
GDSF Series/MgH Series, Super Wild Card, Super Interceptor, Gammars,
Super Magicom, Etc..Etc..
7.IMPROVED REAL TIME SAVE lets you save your game, in ANY game. It works
with more games. You can even save your game and take it to a friends
house to load and play.
8.256K B-RAM (Save Ram) You can save your backed up game to disk, And go
and load it on another unit to play again. You can even save it into
the SRAM of a cartridge and re-load it anytime straight from cartridge
9.SNAPSHOT SCREEN - You can freeze and save pictures from ANY game with
real-time save and an included utility for you IBM/PC!
10.SUPER SLOW MOTION frame by frame advance. 4 levels of slow-motion for
the ultimate in game-enhancement!
11.TOTALLY CONFIGUREABLE MENU - completely configure your menu. Configure
to your taste including : colors/music/language/menu style and have it
each time you boot up your SNES.
12.OTHER dealers say no, but we say YES, the SWC-DX has a SELF-TEST func-
tion which enables you to test each and every part of you SWC-DX incl-
uding DRAM/SRAM/DISKDRIVE/ETC. You'll know what the cause is, should
you have problems.
13.BUILT IN GAME AND DEMO - Before you get your first game/demo, try out
the ones that are built in.
14.BUILT IN .PCX picture viewer. You can create a slideshow, or just dis-
play one picture at a time, WITHOUT the use of a computer.
15.SWC-DX has FILE EDITING capabilities. Examine the inner workings of
your games. GREAT for budding programmers/developers!!!
16.AUTO-LOAD/NEXT DISK - load your games without touching your joypad. It
can auto-detect a disk in the drive and load each new disk without any
button pressing.
17.NTSC / PAL Support. Adjust the jumpers or insert a cartridge.
18.BUILT IN I/O (COM) port for Computer<->SWC-DX transfer. This is STAND-
ARD on ALL machines from FFE. Why pay $30 - $60 dollars for something
that SHOULD and CAN be built in.
19.OPTIONAL DSP CAPABILITIES - You can purchase a DSP1 cartridge and play
the DSP1 games (Mario Kart, Suzuka8Hours, LockON, Etc..)
20.OPTIONAL Internal/External Power Supply. Your Snes can power the SWC-
DX, or your SWC-DX can power your SNES. NO MORE BULKY POWER-SUPPLY IS
NEEDED!
21.COMES STANDARD with 32Mbit DRAM upgradeable to 128M for future upgrade
options.
22.SWC-DX Supports GAMEBOY Adaptors (Contrary to what others may say) You
have the option to buy a GAMEBOY COPIER, and play all your favorite GB
games.
23.THIS UNIT IS6 FULLY TESTED, and is BUG FREE! Loads and plays DKC, etc.
24.SWC-DX CAN bypass copy protections for copy protected games.
KI_...@www.calypso.com.calypso.com
In article <3u1m2r$1h...@seminole.gate.net>, <tram...@news.gate.net> writes:
> Path:
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> From: tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo)
> Newsgroups:
rec.games.video.marketplace,rec.games.video.nintendo,alt.super.nes,rec.games.vi
deo.sega,rec.games.video.arcade,bit.listserv.games-l,rec.games.misc,rec.games.v
ideo.advocacy,rec.games.video.misc,alt.games,alt.forsale,asu.forsale.misc,cyber
gate.forsale,fl.forsale,oau.forsale
> Subject: play sega/snes games without the Cart
> Date: 12 Jul 1995 19:32:43 -0400
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rec.games.video.advocacy:21374 rec.games.video.misc:25757 alt.games:3035
asu.forsale.misc:610 fl.forsale:5318 oau.forsale:22
not alowed to copy games, dang it.
Carl A Morales
sega/snes games wi.. by Shawn Ma...@news.gate.net
> KI_...@www.calypso.com.calypso.com wrote:
>
> no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
> couldn't afford it?
>
> : IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem,
man. You ar
> e
> : not alowed to copy games, dang it.
>
Come on, KI_boy. Who cares!?
Besides, Glacius says, "I love copying devices."
hehe ...
Shawn Mayo
References: <3u1m2r$1h...@seminole.gate.net> <NEWTNews.29151....@www.calypso.com.calypso.com>
Distribution:
KI_...@www.calypso.com.calypso.com wrote:
no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
couldn't afford it?
: IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are
: not alowed to copy games, dang it.
--
Shawn Mayo
Sounds Legal To me COnsole backup Units
Worldwide Console Backup Unit/Video Game Accessories Sales/Service/Distribution
813-681-4373 (Info/Orders/Technical Support!)
On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
> The user tramtane on your system spammed the following article to a whole
> bunch of newsgroups at once. Please inform him of netiquitte!
>
> rec.games.video.arcade #58343 (1 + 0 more)
> Path: apple.com!trib.apple.com!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.
> + net!news.gate.net!not-for-mail
> From: tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo)
> Newsgroups: rec.games.video.marketplace,rec.games.video.nintendo,alt.super.
> + nes,rec.games.video.sega,rec.games.video.arcade,bit.listserv.
> + games-l,rec.games.misc,rec.games.video.advocacy,rec.games.video.
> + misc,alt.games,alt.forsale,asu.forsale.misc,cybergate.forsale,fl.
> + forsale,oau.forsale
> [2] play sega/snes games without the Cart
> Date: 12 Jul 1995 19:24:24 -0400
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> These opinions are mine, not Apple's.
>
Dr. MadMan
tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
> no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
> couldn't afford it?
Sorry to be replying to such a wide crosspost, but this IS legal. It is
legal to buy. It is legal to own. It is legal to sell. It is legal to
use, but NOT ON COPYRIGHTED GAMES! Of course, there are a few of us who
bend the laws a little, or would if we could. I'm also not sure if the
only illegal thing would be selling your copies...
Remember, A-ko spelled backwards is Ok-a! But Bob spelled backwards is
still Bob. However, Ryoga spelled backwards is Agoyr. Now I'm confused...
Dr. Madman, alias: cmcm...@isd.ingham.k12.mi.us
CrackerJack
>In article <3u1m2r$1h...@seminole.gate.net>, <tram...@news.gate.net> writes:
<ad for game copiers snipped>
>IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are
>not alowed to copy games, dang it.
Oh shut up.
Dang it.
/-----------------------------------------------------\
|Jack Follansbee - programmer of virtually everything!|
\-----------------------------------------------------/
Trashed Weasel
>IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are >not alowed to copy games, dang it.
They have legal uses:
1)To copy your own games for backupt
2)To try developing your own games
3)to directly modify the game code without a Game Genie-type device.
These are the illegal uses:
1)To give away or sell the copies.
2)To give away or sell the original and keep the copy.
Happy, dumbass?
Let us all add the Great KI_MAN to our killfiles so no one will have to listen to
this annoying little bitch!
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|This post courtesy of Da Trashed Weasel (t...@wile.thetech.org)|
+------------------------------------------------------------++
|Stop the FBI, or I will make a human sacrifice to Zorkon the|
| Space God! (Preferably KI_MAN) |
+------------------------------------------------------------+
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In a previous article, t...@wile.thetech.org (Trashed Weasel) says:
>KI_...@www.calypso.com wrote:
>
>>IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are >not alowed to copy games, dang it.
>
>They have legal uses:
>1)To copy your own games for backupt
>2)To try developing your own games
>3)to directly modify the game code without a Game Genie-type device.
>
>These are the illegal uses:
>1)To give away or sell the copies.
>2)To give away or sell the original and keep the copy.
>
>Happy, dumbass?
>
>Let us all add the Great KI_MAN to our killfiles so no one will have to listen to
>this annoying little bitch!
>--
>+-------------------------------------------------------------+
>|This post courtesy of Da Trashed Weasel (t...@wile.thetech.org)|
>+------------------------------------------------------------++
>|Stop the FBI, or I will make a human sacrifice to Zorkon the|
>| Space God! (Preferably KI_MAN) |
>+------------------------------------------------------------+
>
Can everyone PLEASE not post a bunch of crap about SNES on a clearly
labeled ARCADE group!! If someone wants to read about SNES disk drives they
will go to rec.games.video.snes. Especially do not need the legality crap!
So shut up all a' you! (No specific offense to the writer of this post,
just the last in the string but you are included. :) )
--
Kenneth Miller hh...@cleveland.freenet.edu
"Oh CRAP! You look like that guy on Star Trek, that Sulu guy!
-Norm MacDonald
Lawrence Chiu
>: IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are
>: not alowed to copy games, dang it.
>couldn't afford it?
> Sounds Legal To me COnsole backup Units
>Worldwide Console Backup Unit/Video Game Accessories Sales/Service/Distribution
> 813-681-4373 (Info/Orders/Technical Support!)
I am assuming that the "What happened, couldn't afford it?" remark meant that
KI_MAN did not make a purchase. My god, you must be under the assumption
that you have exclusive rights to SWCDX! There are many retailers who offer
this product. For all you know, he may be a competitor requesting a price
list for comparison, or he may have bought it from elsewhere. If I request a
price list from you and I don't make a purchase, does that mean that I can't
afford it?!?
How do you expect to win any customers if you insult them before they even
buy anything? What do you do to them after they buy something? Insult their
mother?
About cross-posting: Cross-posting is meant for articles which are relevant
to multiple newsgroups. You are selling SWCDX, which is a SNES videogame
cartridge copier, yet you posted to:
rec.games.video.sega
rec.games.video.arcade
rec.games.video.advocacy
bit.listserv.games-l
None of these newsgroups are appropriate.
When you cross-post, you should set the Followup-To: tag appropriately, as I
have above.
Regards,
Lawrence
---
Lawrence Chiu lc...@netcom.com
- Videogame Cartridge Copiers, Videogames, and Videogame Accessories -
Since 1991 Visa/Mastercard/American Express
(800) 742-5784 (US/Canada)
(510) 799-3875 (elsewhere)
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Shawn Mayo
: In article <3u61k5$19...@seminole.gate.net> tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
: >KI_...@www.calypso.com.calypso.com wrote:
: >: IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are
: >: not alowed to copy games, dang it.
: >no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
: >couldn't afford it?
: >--
: > Sounds Legal To me COnsole backup Units
: >Worldwide Console Backup Unit/Video Game Accessories Sales/Service/Distribution
: > 813-681-4373 (Info/Orders/Technical Support!)
: I am assuming that the "What happened, couldn't afford it?" remark meant that
: KI_MAN did not make a purchase. My god, you must be under the assumption
no lawrence, but when someone asks for a price, then turns around and
says they suck, what do you think it means? and as for being another
dealer, what dealer in his/her right mind would say that a product that
they sell "sucks"
: that you have exclusive rights to SWCDX! There are many retailers who offer
: this product. For all you know, he may be a competitor requesting a price
: list for comparison, or he may have bought it from elsewhere. If I request a
: price list from you and I don't make a purchase, does that mean that I can't
: afford it?!?
: How do you expect to win any customers if you insult them before they even
: buy anything? What do you do to them after they buy something? Insult their
: mother?
: About cross-posting: Cross-posting is meant for articles which are relevant
: to multiple newsgroups. You are selling SWCDX, which is a SNES videogame
: cartridge copier, yet you posted to:
: rec.games.video.sega
i do not *ONLY* sell the swc, i sell the smd which is a sega backup unit,
along with other console backup drives. so how is posting about a sega
unit in a sega group irrelevant or inappropriate?
: None of these newsgroups are appropriate.
: When you cross-post, you should set the Followup-To: tag appropriately, as I
: have above.
: Regards,
: Lawrence
Lawrence Chiu
>
>Lawrence Chiu (lc...@netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: In article <3u61k5$19...@seminole.gate.net> tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
>: >
>: >KI_...@www.calypso.com.calypso.com wrote:
>: >:
>: >: IT IS ILLEGAL!! DON't you guys ever give up? What si your problem, man. You are
>: >: not alowed to copy games, dang it.
>: >
>: >no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
>: >couldn't afford it?
>: >
>: I am assuming that the "What happened, couldn't afford it?" remark meant that
>: KI_MAN did not make a purchase. My god, you must be under the assumption
>:
>
>no lawrence, but when someone asks for a price, then turns around and
>says they suck, what do you think it means? and as for being another
>
KI_MAN never "asked for a price, then turned around and said they suck." Read
what he said (above).
No matter what the case may be, you should not have been disrespectful to a
potential customer, especially in a public forum. IMO, of course.
>
>dealer, what dealer in his/her right mind would say that a product that
>they sell "sucks"
>
You took the words right out of my mouth. Let me rephrase what you just said:
"What dealer (Shawn Mayo) in his/her right mind would say that a product that
they sell 'sucks'?" Doesn't that put your credibility at risk?
You don't sell another SNES videogame cartridge copier besides the SWCDX.
Thus, by your argument above, you would not say that it sucks, and will never
disclose its flaws and shortcomings.
You have every right to sell the products as you wish. It is when you slander
other outstanding products (GDSF7) because you don't sell it that gets me
riled up.
>: About cross-posting: Cross-posting is meant for articles which are relevant
>: to multiple newsgroups. You are selling SWCDX, which is a SNES videogame
>: cartridge copier, yet you posted to:
>: rec.games.video.sega
>
>i do not *ONLY* sell the swc, i sell the smd which is a sega backup unit,
>along with other console backup drives. so how is posting about a sega
>unit in a sega group irrelevant or inappropriate?
>
I was not aware that you see the SMD.
Nontheless, the other newsgroups were inappropriate:
rec.games.video.arcade, rec.games.video.advocacy, etc.
Lawrence Chiu
>Lawrence Chiu (lc...@netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: "What dealer (Shawn Mayo) in his/her right mind would say that a product that
>: they sell 'sucks'?" Doesn't that put your credibility at risk?
>:
>: You don't sell another SNES videogame cartridge copier besides the SWCDX.
>: Thus, by your argument above, you would not say that it sucks, and will never
>: disclose its flaws and shortcomings.
>
>parts of my house, and the gdsf7 is in a closet because it in fact
>sucks. i don't feel there is anything wrong with saying that a product
If you really have GDSF7 in the closet (doubtful), I will buy it from you.
>that sucks when i feel that that's the case. if i liked the product, i
>would be selling it. i don't like it, so i'm not going to sell a system
Maybe, maybe not. In order to sell a product, you must stock it. Look at it
from my perspective. I currently stock 7 different brands: DPFX, GDSF7,
PFXT, SP, SSC, SUFO Pro.7, and SWCDX. Let's assume for a moment that at any
given time, I stock 10 units of each brand, for a total of 70 units. This
requires extensive capitalization, and that's not something a lot of small
companies can handle. Add to that the hassle of conducting transactions with
5 different companies for the 7 brands (including the hassles of overseas
transactions, such as money transfer issues, etc.), the difficulty in even
getting some of the companies to deal with you without a local liason, and I
suspect that it is probably easier for you to just deride a product
regardless of how it actually performs. That way, it simplifies your life;
you deal with 1 manufacturer and your business requires less capitalization,
at the same time doing a great disservice to your customers who may have
benefited from other brands' unique features, many of which are not available
on SWCDX. You also would not have to provide for service on a wide variety
of different brands, which simplifies your business.
There is nothing wrong with business simplicity usually, but when it comes at
the customer's expense, I consider that unacceptable.
In summary, I suspect that you have external motivations other than that it
is the best for selling SWCDX and only SWCDX.
I suspect this to be true given that the manufacturer of SWCDX is most
friendly to overseas distributors, more so than the other manufacturers; this
is the primary reason why SWCDX is one of the most popular brands
exported from Asia, outside where it has little competition, yet still do
relatively poorly in its native Asian markets, against intense competition,
where currently GDSF is king.
When consumers have a choice, the best brand is the THE BEST brand, with the
most features at the lowest price.
When consumers don't have a choice, the best brand is the only brand.
>that i don't like. if you noticed, i sell only systems that i use and
>endorse. i only have 1 style of each system, and if i were to find a
>better kind of backup unit for any platform i would quit selling what i
>currently do and start selling that. i don't think anyone should endorse
What you sell is not always up to you. I would like to see you sell a CCL
product (very difficult to arrange). When that is the case, it is so much
easier to say (regardless of whether it is true or not)...
>what they don't feel is worth the chips they are printed on.
>
...rather than admit that the system may be better for some people but that
you don't sell it (true).
>if you think i'm a *JERK* because of that, then so be it!
Don't misunderstand me. I don't think you are a jerk because you endorse
SWCDX. There are other SWCDX dealers who conduct themselves with plenty of
dignity, such as Peter Mui (rat...@panix.com). I think you are a jerk
because you:
slander brands that you don't sell without giving sufficient reasons why
(GDSF7 - "Speaking of crap..." - Shawn Mayo (that's you))
insult potential customers, on a public forum
(KI_MAN - "What's the matter, can't afford it?" - Shawn Mayo (that's you))
I do not think you are a jerk because you are a competitor. In fact, I
ignored your initial 2 articles falsely deriding GDSF7 (see article by Shiu
Cheuk. "Speaking of crap, are you a dealer?" - Shawn Mayo (that's you)). But
your continued UN-SUPPORTED negative comments about the GDSF7 is unjustified.
I rather see this whole matter dropped. Keep in mind that negative criticism
is welcomed, with supporting evidence. Negative criticism without supporting
evidence is just noise...
Lawrence Chiu
BTW, I never called Shawn Mayo a jerk. I don't want a misunderstanding here.
There was a thread in r.g.v.marketplace titled "Shawn Mayo(copier dealer) is
a jerk" but I have nothing to do with that.
Thanks.
Regards,
Lawrence
Shawn Mayo
: In article <3v1t8u$2r...@navajo.gate.net> tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
: >Lawrence Chiu (lc...@netcom.com) wrote:
: >:
: >: You took the words right out of my mouth. Let me rephrase what you just said:
: >: "What dealer (Shawn Mayo) in his/her right mind would say that a product that
: >: they sell 'sucks'?" Doesn't that put your credibility at risk?
: >:
: >: You don't sell another SNES videogame cartridge copier besides the SWCDX.
: >: Thus, by your argument above, you would not say that it sucks, and will never
: >: disclose its flaws and shortcomings.
: >:
: >
: >parts of my house, and the gdsf7 is in a closet because it in fact
: >sucks. i don't feel there is anything wrong with saying that a product
: If you really have GDSF7 in the closet (doubtful), I will buy it from you.
that's fine with me, i may be returning it to my dealer because i have
not yet paid ffor it as he sends me all new systems when they come out on
the market.
: >that sucks when i feel that that's the case. if i liked the product, i
: >would be selling it. i don't like it, so i'm not going to sell a system
: Maybe, maybe not. In order to sell a product, you must stock it. Look at it
: from my perspective. I currently stock 7 different brands: DPFX, GDSF7,
: PFXT, SP, SSC, SUFO Pro.7, and SWCDX. Let's assume for a moment that at any
: given time, I stock 10 units of each brand, for a total of 70 units. This
: requires extensive capitalization, and that's not something a lot of small
: companies can handle. Add to that the hassle of conducting transactions with
i as well carry 10-15 units of what i sell at any given time.
: 5 different companies for the 7 brands (including the hassles of overseas
: transactions, such as money transfer issues, etc.), the difficulty in even
: getting some of the companies to deal with you without a local liason, and I
: suspect that it is probably easier for you to just deride a product
: regardless of how it actually performs. That way, it simplifies your life;
: you deal with 1 manufacturer and your business requires less capitalization,
: at the same time doing a great disservice to your customers who may have
: benefited from other brands' unique features, many of which are not available
: on SWCDX. You also would not have to provide for service on a wide variety
: of different brands, which simplifies your business.
ok, tell my why your gdsf7 is better than the swc dx-32? i deal with 3
different companies, as well as selling a variety of different that i
would rather not start arguing about at this time.
: There is nothing wrong with business simplicity usually, but when it comes at
: the customer's expense, I consider that unacceptable.
explain to me why it is better to sell units that are inferior just to
say you have more.
: In summary, I suspect that you have external motivations other than that it
: is the best for selling SWCDX and only SWCDX.
: I suspect this to be true given that the manufacturer of SWCDX is most
: friendly to overseas distributors, more so than the other manufacturers; this
: is the primary reason why SWCDX is one of the most popular brands
: exported from Asia, outside where it has little competition, yet still do
: relatively poorly in its native Asian markets, against intense competition,
: where currently GDSF is king.
: When consumers have a choice, the best brand is the THE BEST brand, with the
: most features at the lowest price.
: When consumers don't have a choice, the best brand is the only brand.
: >that i don't like. if you noticed, i sell only systems that i use and
: >endorse. i only have 1 style of each system, and if i were to find a
: >better kind of backup unit for any platform i would quit selling what i
: >currently do and start selling that. i don't think anyone should endorse
: What you sell is not always up to you. I would like to see you sell a CCL
: product (very difficult to arrange). When that is the case, it is so much
: easier to say (regardless of whether it is true or not)...
i carry the super magic drive and did sell the pro fighter series when
they were on the market and had no problem acquiring those units.
: >what they don't feel is worth the chips they are printed on.
: >
: ...rather than admit that the system may be better for some people but that
: you don't sell it (true).
: >if you think i'm a *JERK* because of that, then so be it!
: Don't misunderstand me. I don't think you are a jerk because you endorse
: SWCDX. There are other SWCDX dealers who conduct themselves with plenty of
: dignity, such as Peter Mui (rat...@panix.com). I think you are a jerk
: because you:
: slander brands that you don't sell without giving sufficient reasons why
: (GDSF7 - "Speaking of crap..." - Shawn Mayo (that's you))
: insult potential customers, on a public forum
: (KI_MAN - "What's the matter, can't afford it?" - Shawn Mayo (that's you))
: I do not think you are a jerk because you are a competitor. In fact, I
: ignored your initial 2 articles falsely deriding GDSF7 (see article by Shiu
: Cheuk. "Speaking of crap, are you a dealer?" - Shawn Mayo (that's you)). But
: your continued UN-SUPPORTED negative comments about the GDSF7 is unjustified.
: I rather see this whole matter dropped. Keep in mind that negative criticism
: is welcomed, with supporting evidence. Negative criticism without supporting
: evidence is just noise...
Shawn Mayo
: In article <3v4l4b$1k...@hopi.gate.net> tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
: >explain to me why it is better to sell units that are inferior just to
: >say you have more.
:
: Once again, you have failed to grasp the point.
:
: I never said that it is better for a business to sell units that are inferior
: just to say "it" has more. That is simply unacceptable. GDSF7 is NOT
: inferior to SWCDX. You have failed to offer ANY evidence why you feel that
: way. Your bias, there for the sake of simplifying your business at the
: expense of considering your customers' needs, is disturbing.
do you have any supporting evidence that the gdsf7 is a better unit that
the swc?
:
: You seem to think this whole thread is about "SWCDX vs. GDSF7". That is
: incorrect. I neither believe that SWCDX is inferior to GDSF7 nor vice versa.
: The two, along with the other brands that I sell, are simply *different*, with
: their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Get it?
:
: This is not about "Lawrence Chiu vs. Shawn Mayo" either. If that was the case,
: we would be comparing references.
:
: This is about "Lawrence Chiu vs. Shawn Mayo's misinformation-about-products-he-
: does-not-sell". Your un-supported lies about the GDSF7 ("Speaking of crap...",
: "worst", etc.) is simply unacceptable.
i believe that i posted a listing of features on both systems and let the
buyers make their own choices. when you list the units you sell in a
text file on your ftp site, there is a note under the swc dx-32 that
there is no information presently available. so how can you say that the
dx is not better when you probably don't even know!
:
Lawrence Chiu
>say you have more.
just to say "it" has more. That is simply unacceptable. GDSF7 is NOT
inferior to SWCDX. You have failed to offer ANY evidence why you feel that
way. Your bias, there for the sake of simplifying your business at the
expense of considering your customers' needs, is disturbing.
incorrect. I neither believe that SWCDX is inferior to GDSF7 nor vice versa.
The two, along with the other brands that I sell, are simply *different*, with
their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Get it?
This is not about "Lawrence Chiu vs. Shawn Mayo" either. If that was the case,
we would be comparing references.
This is about "Lawrence Chiu vs. Shawn Mayo's misinformation-about-products-he-
does-not-sell". Your un-supported lies about the GDSF7 ("Speaking of crap...",
"worst", etc.) is simply unacceptable.
>they were on the market and had no problem acquiring those units.
anymore without a local liason. The Super Magic Drive is not a current CCL
product. If it is CCL's, you are selling discontinued, substandard
merchandise.
Regards,
Lawrence
Ed Moran
I have a question. I missed the beginning of this whole
conversation but I was wondering...
I know what the SWCDX stands for, SuperWild Card DX. What does
GDSF7 stand for? Can you guys (L.C. or S.M) post info on
either cc again? Thanks
Lawrence Chiu
>
>do you have any supporting evidence that the gdsf7 is a better unit that
>the swc?
>
Shawn, do you have trouble with reading comprehension?
I never said the GDSF7 is a better unit than SWCDX. I do not believe SWCDX is
a better unit than a GDSF7. The two, along with the other brands that I sell,
are simply *different*, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. The
best unit for the customer depends on each customer's unique situation.
Read what I wrote, before you follow up. Geez.
>: You seem to think this whole thread is about "SWCDX vs. GDSF7". That is
>: incorrect. I neither believe that SWCDX is inferior to GDSF7 nor vice
>: versa. The two, along with the other brands that I sell, are simply
>: *different*, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Get it?
Apparently, Shawn did not get it the first time, as I just repeated myself
(above). *sigh*
>i believe that i posted a listing of features on both systems and let the
>buyers make their own choices. when you list the units you sell in a
Yes, you did do that. What you also did previous to that, was falsely
claimed GDSF7 was "crap" ("Speaking of crap..." - Shawn Mayo (that's you)),
which is false and prompted by the fact that you only sell a single brand of
videogame cartridge copier (SWCDX - big surprise there). THAT IS WHY WE ARE
HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. If the only article you posted was a mere comparison
made fairly and with little bias, then I wouldn't be wasting my time writing
this very article.
>text file on your ftp site, there is a note under the swc dx-32 that
>there is no information presently available. so how can you say that the
>dx is not better when you probably don't even know!
I do not have a review file on SWCDX at this time. It is currently under
construction; however, as many people on the net will point out to you, I have
sold SWCDX since its introduction in 11/94 and thus have extensive experience
with them. The review file on SWCDX will be posted next Monday and will be
a fair, unbiased review (to the best of my ability).
meisian
to sell them (I'm not against them, I own a GDSF6).
I have to agree with the fact that it is personal preference on which one
of these machines one should buy but that is no excuse to start arguing.
Anyway, the copying part of these things is illegal. Why are you trying to
let the whole world know about these machines. they used to be known by only a small
portion of people.
Shawn Mayo
: In article <3v6obl$21...@seminole.gate.net> tram...@news.gate.net (Shawn Mayo) writes:
: >
: >do you have any supporting evidence that the gdsf7 is a better unit that
: >the swc?
: >
: Shawn, do you have trouble with reading comprehension?
: I never said the GDSF7 is a better unit than SWCDX. I do not believe SWCDX is
: a better unit than a GDSF7. The two, along with the other brands that I sell,
: are simply *different*, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. The
: best unit for the customer depends on each customer's unique situation.
: Read what I wrote, before you follow up. Geez.
: >: You seem to think this whole thread is about "SWCDX vs. GDSF7". That is
: >: incorrect. I neither believe that SWCDX is inferior to GDSF7 nor vice
: >: versa. The two, along with the other brands that I sell, are simply
: >: *different*, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Get it?
: Apparently, Shawn did not get it the first time, as I just repeated myself
: (above). *sigh*
: >i believe that i posted a listing of features on both systems and let the
: >buyers make their own choices. when you list the units you sell in a
: Yes, you did do that. What you also did previous to that, was falsely
: claimed GDSF7 was "crap" ("Speaking of crap..." - Shawn Mayo (that's you)),
: which is false and prompted by the fact that you only sell a single brand of
: videogame cartridge copier (SWCDX - big surprise there). THAT IS WHY WE ARE
: HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. If the only article you posted was a mere comparison
: made fairly and with little bias, then I wouldn't be wasting my time writing
: this very article.
and since when is it fucking not allowed to voice my opinion? i can say
that you're a peice of shit con-man and that would be my opinion. people
can believe what they want.
Nrupesh Gajjar
>>no it is not, didn't you ask for a price about a week ago? what happened
>>couldn't afford it?
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>
that
>
>Regards,
>Lawrence
>---
>Lawrence Chiu
lc...@netcom.com
> - Videogame Cartridge Copiers, Videogames, and Videogame Accessories -
man, you never give up, do you? posting VIDEO GAMECOPIER SALES, etcetc..
people like you are just wasting bytes on a HD! somewere.. here is another
place to buy these units in USA
(718)854-5877
Shawn Stackhouse
>I know what the SWCDX stands for, SuperWild Card DX. What does
>GDSF7 stand for? Can you guys (L.C. or S.M) post info on
>either cc again? Thanks
Game Doctor SF 7. Just another kind of copier. Does the name really
matter though?
Would anyone want to see my review on the GDSF4 and the GDSF5?
Thanks,
Shawn
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