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ZELDA 64 SUCKS!!! GOING BACK TO TARGET!!!

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Philip Stagfield

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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I think that this game isn't worth $60. I still wanted to play it so I
bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.
Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about
it!!! The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
to say the game is broke and demand a new copy. Thing is the game will be
sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!
BTW, this game isn't that great:

-Poor frame rate
-Sound isn't as good as in previous Zelda games
-Doesn't have the classic overhead feel of the older games
-Really, really stupid dialogue
- weak story
- Link walks too slow
- too easy
- few new weapons
- it is too much like Mario with a sword

It is a good rental game but I have better things do to with $60 than play
this sorry game. One of the most disappointing games of the year like
Banjo-Kazzoie and Yooshi Story. So far Goldeneye is the only good N64 game
I have really enjoyed. Too bad.


Alexander Sargent Woods

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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On 28 Nov 1998, Philip Stagfield wrote:

> I think that this game isn't worth $60. I still wanted to play it so I
> bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.
> Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about
> it!!! The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
> to say the game is broke and demand a new copy. Thing is the game will be
> sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!
> BTW, this game isn't that great:
>

> -Poor frame rate--(hovering around 20-30, typical for 3rd person
adventure games)
> -Sound isn't as good as in previous Zelda games(No dedicated sound chip
like super nintendo, but still good variety of sounds/music especially
Gerundo Valley)


> -Doesn't have the classic overhead feel of the older

games--(Of course not, those games were 2D, this is 3D
> -Really, really stupid dialogue--(IMO the dialogue is some of the best
in any video game--it's funny and informative, some is stupid and some is
great
> - weak story--(It's a simple story...it's a video game, not a college
lit course
> - Link walks too slow--(you get a horse later)
> - too easy--(not really, some of the hidden stuff is really
hidden...good luck doing everything
> - few new weapons(I agree with this point--Zelda 3 had way more
weapons/magic)
> - it is too much like Mario with a sword(the environments are very
realistic, unlike mario, the battles with enemies/bosses take skill,
unlike mario...etc.

Just so I know, how far are you in the game? I would hope that any
sensible human being would invest some time in something they spent $60 on
before dismissing it and trashing it. Some people are just jerkasses.


Matt McDevitt

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Back under the bridge with you.....

Hey! Do you realize some people might get kinda mad if you say this on
here? You did? Oh, I see...you're just starting trouble......

Matt

Philip Stagfield wrote in message <01be1b27$7b8152e0$b1629ecf@home>...


>I think that this game isn't worth $60. I still wanted to play it so I
>bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.
>Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about
>it!!! The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
>to say the game is broke and demand a new copy. Thing is the game will be
>sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!
>BTW, this game isn't that great:
>
>-Poor frame rate

>-Sound isn't as good as in previous Zelda games

Gargantua Blargg

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Oh, hey, it's the gold-dolt-meister.

In article <01be1b27$7b8152e0$b1629ecf@home>, "Philip Stagfield"
<cadi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think that this game isn't worth $60.

You're not alone. Do we care?

> I still wanted to play it so I
> bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.

"till after Christmas". What the hell do you mean here?

Did you get the amazing gold that you think has more features? Why didn't
you like it?

> Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about
> it!!!

OK. You won't be able to return it because it'll be longer than a month.

> The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
> to say the game is broke and demand a new copy.

OK, but then you'll still have the game, dork!

> Thing is the game will be
> sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!

Well, generally playing a game is a benefit to you, and doesn't cost anything.

> BTW, this game isn't that great:
>
> -Poor frame rate

Poor, but not a problem. There is no slow-down like Goldeneye.

> -Sound isn't as good as in previous Zelda games

Perhaps you have a shitty mono TV? Hahaha! Everyone laught at him! You
can't tell where sounds are coming from. Wahhhh. Get a real stereo. The
game has freaking surround sound. You can't complain.

> -Doesn't have the classic overhead feel of the older games

It's 3D. Duhhhhhhh. Duuurrrr. N64? Is that the new 3D system from
Nintendo? Duuuhhhhh.

> -Really, really stupid dialogue

Only in some parts. Doesn't bother me a bit.

> - weak story

I guess you haven't played other Zelda games. They all have about the same
significance for the story.

> - Link walks too slow

Perhaps you should run instead? Do you know what the analog stick is? Are
you even using an N64 controller?

> - too easy

So? It's fun as hell.

> - few new weapons

So? It's fun as hell.

> - it is too much like Mario with a sword

Too bad you didn't even compose that idea. It isn't Mario with a sword,
anyway. Much different. Super Mario 64's levels sucked. Zelda's dungeons
are simply amazing.

> It is a good rental game

If you play it continuously for the entire 5 day rental period, that is.
I've been playing for four days now and am maybe half way through. That's
about 30 hours so far.

> but I have better things do to with $60 than play this sorry game.

Yeah, you've gotta come on this newsgroup posting bullshit like this.


> One of the most disappointing games of the year like
> Banjo-Kazzoie

Only one z. And I found Banjo to be a quite fun game too. I played it all
the way through, spending a few days on it.

> and Yooshi Story.

Yoshi's Story is just too fucking difficult to do the levels perfectly. It
is unforgiving of errors.

> So far Goldeneye is the only good N64 game I have really enjoyed. Too bad.

For you, that is. I didn't think I'd like Goldeneye, but ended up loving
it, going through on agent and 00 agent modes over the span of a year. The
multiplayer is great.

Oh well, we sure don't care that you don't like the Zelda series. Your
loss. Now shut up and leave, and close the door behind you.

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Rock2577

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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Except that Target doesn't allow refunds on games that have been opened, they
only replace it with the same game. This hasn't been enforced much before, but
the stores, chainwide are enforcing it now that the holidays are upon us...

Brad
"If we deny love that is given to us, if we refuse to give love because we fear
the pain of loss, then our lives will be emtpy our loss greater"
-Margaret Wies and Tracy Hickman
from: Dragons of Winter Night

Torajima

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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In article <01be1b27$7b8152e0$b1629ecf@home>, "Philip Stagfield"
<cadi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think that this game isn't worth $60. I still wanted to play it so I


> bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.

> Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about

> it!!! The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
> to say the game is broke and demand a new copy. Thing is the game will be


> sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!

You sir, are a liar and a thief.

> BTW, this game isn't that great:
>
> -Poor frame rate

It's not near as bad as a few people have made it out to be. Once you
start playing it, you'll be so involved with the game you'll never notice
the frame rate.

> -Sound isn't as good as in previous Zelda games

Come again? The sound blows previous Zelda games out of the water.

> -Doesn't have the classic overhead feel of the older games

What were you expecting, a 2-D game?

> -Really, really stupid dialogue

Not really. In fact, it's translated/written far better than most RPGs.

> - weak story

Strongest story ever to grace a Zelda game. The cutscenes are truly fantastic.

> - Link walks too slow

Maybe you should try riding a horse.

> - too easy

Far harder than most RPGs. I've died at least a half dozen times playing
Zelda, I only died once while playing Final Fantasy 7.

> - few new weapons

You clearly haven't played long enough. Great new weapons like the
slingshot and boomerang.

> - it is too much like Mario with a sword

It's NOTHING like Mario with a sword. It doesn't look like Mario, it
doesn't control like Mario, it doesn't play like Mario, it doesn't feel
like Mario.

> It is a good rental game but I have better things do to with $60 than play
> this sorry game. One of the most disappointing games of the year like
> Banjo-Kazzoie and Yooshi Story.

Zelda a disappointment? There have certaintly been disappointing games on
the N64, but Zelda is not one of them. It's one of the few games that is
actually BETTER than it's hyped to be.

Torajima

dwalk10370

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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That is why carts cost $60 an up, because of thiefs like you.

Reatil Video Game Store Owner,
Dave.

Antookis

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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Rock2577 wrote in message
<19981128191250...@ng145.aol.com>...

>Except that Target doesn't allow refunds on games that have been
opened, they
>only replace it with the same game. This hasn't been enforced much
before, but
>the stores, chainwide are enforcing it now that the holidays are upon
us...


God, tell me about, it sure was enforced on me! I tried to take back two
gameboy games to Target ages ago and the lady (after waiting in line for
45 minutes) pretty much told me I couldn't and shouldn't have even
brought the games back because they can be copied, now I don't know of
too many Gameboy games that have been copied, but the fact here is
TARGET AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT BACK BUB!!!

Pandagas

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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In article <19981129015500...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, dwalk...@aol.com
(dwalk10370) writes:

>That is why carts cost $60 an up, because of thiefs like you.

Or perhaps they cost 60 quid because nintendo want to
rob kids and parents of _their_ money. I only have two brand new games.
The others are all second hand.

Actually, i'm interested to know why the big companies don't put
pressure on shops which are licensed to sell second hand games.
Any ideas?


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Rock2577

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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<<It's not near as bad as a few people have made it out to be. Once you start
playing it, you'll be so involved with the game you'll never notice the frame
rate.>>

Totally agree... even if the frame rate isn't as fast as some other games, as
someone pointed out it's at least constant. And the graphics are still very
nice and grab your attention.

<<Not really. In fact, it's translated/written far better than most RPGs.>>

Well true it's tranlated well and the dialogue is pretty good as far as a Zelda
game goes. But even if the dialogue isn't the deepest or most well written it
gets the storyline across and you can understand it, which is what matters.

<<Strongest story ever to grace a Zelda game. The cutscenes are truly
fantastic.>>

I disagree. I think the story is a little weak too. Link to the Past was a
better one IMO. Besides, i would like to have them do SOMETHING new with the
story/plot. It's always been the same.

<<Far harder than most RPGs. I've died at least a half dozen times playing
Zelda, I only died once while playing Final Fantasy 7.>>

FF7 tends to be either too easy or too hard. It all depends on which weapons
you've gotten and which armor/spells, etc Since Zelda has alot more of a
puzzle mentality to it, the items you've gotten aren't always as important to
continuing. And since Zelda is an Action RPG you have less time to think
about what to do when fighting because it's real time and there is only one
character, instead of 3 like FF7 or 5 like FF3...

<<You clearly haven't played long enough. Great new weapons like the slingshot
and boomerang.>>

The boomerang isn't new... it was in Link to the Past as well. The slingshot
it... but honestly i have to agree with the first person on this one. Most of
the items are the same as from Link to the Past... again i'd like for them to
do something different.

<<Zelda a disappointment? There have certaintly been disappointing games on the
N64, but Zelda is not one of them. It's one of the few games that is actually
BETTER than it's hyped to be.>>

Again i'll have to definately disagree here. It doesn't really come close to
the hype IMO. It's a good game but as a play it more i wouldn't even call it
the best on the N64. As i said it's still a great game and worth buying. So
from the stance that, to me, it didn't live up to the hype (although i didn't
expect it to) and is very much like the other Zeldas (just in a 3d world) it is
somewhat dispointing.

Eric Chapin

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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Philip Stagfield <cadi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think that this game isn't worth $60. I still wanted to play it so I
> bought it at Target and I will play it and beat it till after Christmas.
> Then I am gonna take it back and demand my money back!!!!! Think about
> it!!! The day after Christmas everyone is bringing stuff back. I am going
> to say the game is broke and demand a new copy. Thing is the game will be
> sold out so I get my money back!!!!! I go to beat the game for free!!

> BTW, this game isn't that great:
>

*NEWS FLASH*

There should be more Zelda games shortly so your chance of returning it
while their stock is out may be unlikely. Even if they were out of
stock at the time, there's a chance someone would return an unopened
game or 2 and they'd trade it with yours.

Finally, nearly all stores I know had these little known policy: if an
opened game or system were returned and there's no replacement in stock,
they usually put you on hold for a replacement. They only way to get a
full refund is if Nintendo stopped making Zelda 64 now. (yeah riiiight!)

Oh yeah, they usually get your name & address. If they decide to test
the game and find it working and well used, they might do something
nasty...

TechMaster

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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<<That is why carts cost $60 an up, because of thiefs like you.>>

That's just dumb. People steal and even copy PSX games on their own CDs
and the prices still aren't over $60. Since you're the retailer, it's
*your* fault those games are that high.


Eric Chapin

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Pandagas <pand...@aol.com> wrote:


> Actually, i'm interested to know why the big companies don't put
> pressure on shops which are licensed to sell second hand games.
> Any ideas?

That's like Ford putting pressure on used car dealers. Even if Ninteno
did get major companies to stop, there is thousands of small time
dealers who runs local, internet, etc. shops and often goes around by
word of mouth. And some of us even sell through NG. No way Ninteno can
stop used game market.

Scott and Doug Craig

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Nov 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/30/98
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> I disagree. I think the story is a little weak too. Link to the Past
was a
> better one IMO. Besides, i would like to have them do SOMETHING new with
the
> story/plot. It's always been the same.

I kinda agree -- but then I remember that Zelda 64 is the PREQUEL to ALL of
the Zelda games. So it actually sets the stage for the future ones. Kinda
a cop out but it makes sense.

Doug

Kristen Roy

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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Not exactly true. If you are unsatisfied with the product, you
are entitled as a consumer to return it with a full refund. I
just returned GT64, the game was lame and it crashed in two
player mode. Long story short... I played the game, finished it
returned it and got another game in it's place (Overdrive
Extreem).

Go figure.
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Drakmere

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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In article <740t8i$9...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, ce...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Kristen Roy) babbled thusly:
I think they just get suspiscious if you pull this trick to often...

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