JRPG History Questions
Sheky
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
>
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I started with Zelda. But I never played a real RPG till DWI, but FFI was
the one that got me hooked. That one man party thing in DW didn't sit very
well with me; I think I stopped playing that game after an hour. ^_^
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Joe Ottoson
>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Zelda (or if that doesn't count) Dragon Warrior for me too. I got
interested in RPG's in general on my Apple 2e (Ultima, Gemstone Warrior,
Bard's Tale etc) but DW was the first Japanese RPG I got a hold of.
Thing is, it was the spells and armor etc that got me really excited at
the time more than the promise of a story (shrug).
I never really got tired of the genre (although I managed to end up
never getting really playing Final Fantasy, and I never put much time
into FF2 past renting it once.) I've been playing them ever since.
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>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
I don't recall very well why I liked jRPGs so much, mainly
because I was still young and not interested in why I liked
them. I just did. The introduction of a storyline and the
genral ambience and atmosphere of the games was certainly
part of what got me interested in the genre, though.
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>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Dragon Warrior, here! Oh, and I got it before that Nintendo Power
giveaway, so I paid the full price too. Actraiser was the game that
got me to buy the SNES, and I got Mystic Quest before FF2, but
yeah.. FF2 was captivating.. I just got FF3 because of sentimental
reasons, and I loved it until I saw the *horrible* ending.
I bought other RPGs on the side like Lufia, Breath of Fire,
Chrono Trigger (best SNES RPG IMO).. and when I heard FF7 was
being moved to the Playstation I stopped holding out for the
N64.. Smart move, as the big RPG makers all started developing
for the PS.. I think it must have been late 96 that I picked up
Persona.. At first I hated it, but then after about 10 hours of
forced play, it started to grow on me, and I saw that it had much
more to offer than I had originally thought.
After putting 100 or so hours into the game, I bought the import to
play the quest that got cut out.. Then I started importing more and
more of the series from Japan.. When Soul Hackers was denied (and I
owned the import) I saw what an American tragedy it was, and vowed
that the same thing would *not* happen to Persona 2.
After owning Persona 2 (import) for three days, I can safely say that
it is coming.. I can put my worries aside, because this game is of
such high quality that even Sony can't deny it.
I was younger back during Dragon Warrior though, getting back to the
point.. and my imagination was really caught by the game...
In fact, whenever I played it, I would visualize the entire battle as
it was actually being fought.. Remember back then, when there were no
"rigged battles" and gameplay consisted of walking back and forth to
"level up?" Heh heh. We've come a long way.
Ahh dialogue.. I think my favorite line from that game is:
"It is dodging!"
Well, that's my history of RPGs..
-Tom
H. Punk Ford
in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
Zelda, and Pokemon.)
I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
; ; ;", ;" ,", ;", ;",
""" :": :" :" : : :". : :
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Lars Eighner
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|I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
Ditto, but I was crazy for DW from the start (and love the fanfare).
I played I & II over and over until FFI came out, which blew everything
away. But I still liked DW enough to search and search until I
got the III & IV carts. Of course it was really hard to keep an
NES up for more than a couple of years. DW IV has a lot of character
development stuff that you didn't see elsewhere until SNES.
Either III or IV had job switching so you really could have completely
different characters with completely different combinations of skills
every time you played the game.
Dungeon Magic was also pretty good, it was the first one that had
perspective rather than overhead view (well, the first one I found).
But it was not an especially extensive game and the dungeons had
a inordinate sameness. Unfortunely, I've never found a rom for
this one that I can get to work.
Eventually I got a Genisis, but never found anything worth playing
on it except the Shining Force games -- to which FFT owes a lot.
Eventually I became reconciled to the Phantasy Star games, but never
really liked them.
Unfortunately one of the first Square games I got for SNES was
that stupid little kids' game -- gosh I have even blocked out
the name now. But that really put me off Square for a long time
and it took a lot of persuation to get me to try FFII(US).
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"H. Punk Ford" wrote:
>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
HAHAHAHAHA! ADVENTURE! Just pick up the bridge, and carry it over there!
Yeah, whatever! HAHAHAHA!
That fucking game... shit. Poke the dragon with the arrow! Yeah! ROFL!
JT
Simon James Palko
:>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
:>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
:>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
:>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
:>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
:>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
:>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
:>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
Hmmm... got DW I when it came out, thought it was a cute take on the
genre, with many shortcomings (one member party being the big one). This
after much time spent on old-skool computer RPGs like Bard's Tale,
Wizardry, et al. What got me TOTALLY hooked on JRPGs was when a friend of
mine got a Sega Master System and Phantasy Star. THIS was the
prototypical JRPG. Great graphics, good characters, dialogue, and a real
(sorta) story. I'd say that everything that's come out since owes a great
deal to PS, if just for the direction in which it pointed the genre.
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punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
>
put out by Atari for their 800 Home Computer. I tried playing it on at
least 5 occasions and could not make heads or tails out of the damn
thing (the instructions only said you must find the Grail, which was
hidded in the Kingdom somewhere...I couldn't get beyond the opening
screens)! I tried to get my money back (to no avail), so I put it on
the shelf to collect dust.
A year later I was cleaning out my storage shelves and I came across
this game. I was going to dump it, but for some reason I booted the
disk up and started playing. Lo and Behold, after wandering aimlessly
for about 30 minutes, I stepped in a SECRET AREA!!!!!which transported
me to a room where I FOUND A KEY!!!!!!etc, etc, etc,.
Was I hooked? During a marathon session one Sunday morning, my power
supply blew and, instead of waiting until the next day, I scoured all of
Manhattan looking for a store that was open and sold this part...not an
easy thing to do 15-20 years ago. After about 6 hours, I finally found
a rip-off place in Times Square that charged me $80 for a part that
normally sold for about $20. WHAT AN OUTRAGE! WHAT A RIPOFF! I
happily paid the money and hurried home to complete the game without an
ounce of regret.
What hooked me on this genre was NOT the ability to take on the persona
of some 10-year old dressed like a fairy, but rather the excitement and
challenge of exploring strange lands, finding hidden objects and solving
puzzles in order to achieve a goal. I went on to play and complete all
the Zeldas and Final Fantasy V (I think it was V) for the NES and SNES,
Phantasy Star for the Genesis and several others. While not strictly
RPG'S, I also played (and loved) all the Scott Adams adventure games for
the Atari computer, and the Infocom series of adventures (Starcross,
Infidel, etc). I loved them all. Funny thing is, I've tried several
RPG's for the Playstation over the years (King's Field II, FF VII,
Alundra) and did not particularly like any of them (nor did I come close
to finishing any of them...I just lost interest). I dunno, maybe I've
outgrown the genre or gotten more impatient as the demands on my time
have gotten greater over the years. Or, just maybe, I'll find that one
game that will suck me in the way "Gallahad" did, to the point of not
sleeping or eating or going to work for days at a time. Then again,
maybe I'm just getting old and jaded.
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"H. Punk Ford" wrote:
>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
Seminole
Nintendo Power and me and my cousin played this game continously until the
very end of the game. Since then, I've been hooked on JRPGs. Final Fantasy
1 hooked me in even more, but I must say that I was more into DW2. (I
didn't really play FF1 when it first came out) I wasn't really into DW3
that much, probably since you created your own party from the start of the
game, whereas in DW1, 2, and 4, you were given made characters.
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punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
>I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
>really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
>the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
>actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
>leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Let's see....
My first JRPG was Phantasy Star 1. I didn't know english very well at
the time (in fact, I don't think I knew english at all) but I still
liked playing it for some reason. Of course, at the time, I didn't
even know what an RPG was...
anyways, skip to 3 or so years ago. My cousin just got me into
emulation and I spent quite a lot of time with Snes97, which was the
best SNES emulator at the time. (it had no sound... ech.) anyway,
during my ever lasting search for more Snes roms I ran into the name
'final fantasy' a great many times. many rom pages seemed to hail
'Final Fantasy 3' as the greatest game ever made. So I decided to give
it a try. I recall liking it.
And the rest is history (aka I'm tired of writing)
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> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it?
Since Adventure came out. Though I wasn't that interested in RPG until
I got Ultima Exodus (Zelda 1 wasn't called RPG then but if it counts,
then Zelda 1)
I now have close to 50 different RPG games for the various consoles
(with SNES leading at 20) and countless numbers on my Macintosh and PC
These days I don't play RPG as often as I used to (maybe 5 hours a week
vs almost 50 hours at the peak with Ultima 5 for C64) mostly because I
don't have as much free time as I used to.
Captain Calzone
guy I knew called punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk
Ford) said this to me, while doing naughty things to my dog.:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
This one is easy :) Dragon Warrior 1. I think I beat that game about
10 times before DW2 came out. Everyone nowadays talks about how lame
it was and how boring it was, but at the time I was engrossed totally.
For the first time in my gaming experience I wasn't just controlling a
guy who made guys blow up instantly, I WAS that guy, and I had to
actually fight the guys, not just touch them with a magic bullet,
sword, etc. I could talk to people, but new weapons and armor, and
explore dungeons. It was nirvana and I never looked back once.
Dragon Warrior 1 turned my video game playing from a passive hobby to
a life-threatening addiction :) Hell, I used to actually imagine
Dragon Warrior battles as they took place, seeing in my head my
character as he lunged with Erdrick's sword, trying desperately to
find a weak spot in that damn mettle slime... no ammount of polygons
has ever reached the level of realism that was garnered by one boy,
one early 8-bit title, and a dangerously overactive imagination :)
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>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
Started with Dragon WArrior and never looked back.
Of course I used play a lot of pen and paper D&D back then, so the genre
suited me fine.
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: This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
: in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
: three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
: Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
: made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
: 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
: non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
: Zelda, and Pokemon.)
: I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
: really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
: the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
: actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
: leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Well, for me, I guess the two "hooks" in the Japanese RPG genre were
Dragon Quest 1 and Final Fantasy 1...
Of course, I had been playing CRPGs for years before that, my first
introduction into the genre being probably Ultima IV, or maybe those
Eamon text adventures. :P Then there were the Bard's Tales, the excellent
Wasteland and Knights of Legend...so it was just an extension of the
genre I guess. Plus it was a way to support my gaming habit and improve
my Japanese at the same time. :)
Come to think of it, the main reason I play JRPGs now more than CRPGs is
that they don't make 'em like they used to in the CRPG category...:P
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punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it?
My first RPG was a 3-day rental of Secret of Mana during my brief
ownership of a SNES. I rented it mainly for the music, which I heard was
excellent (at this time I had just begun to really value game for their
soundtracks). While I enjoyed the game, I never got back to it after that
rental, and RPGs were always last on the "must-play" scale.
In 1997, though, FF7 reinterested me in the RPG. I put my money down on
it, then rented Wild Arms, Ogre Battle and Beyond the Beyond in the
interim. BtB wasn't too hot (at best), and I got hopelessly stuck on the
"picture puzzle" part (I have NEVER been able to solve one of those), so
I wouldn't be going back to that one even if it were good. Ogre Battle
was extremely engrossing despite its obvious retro-ness. Plus it has a
Music test menu. But Wild Arms sold me on RPGs. I didn't finish it until
a year ago, but it will remain a favorite of mine.
If anything, FF7 only sealed RPGs' place in my list of games to play. As
I get older (just had my 28th Saturday), they've become the first on the
must-play list. All in only 4 years...
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punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>
> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Actually, my first RPG's were Miracle Warriors and Phantasy Star for the
Sega Master System. I usually end up buying my Ninendo systems used
after things start to wind down for their competition, so I didn't run
across FF1 till later.
-ZFP
H. Punk Ford
>
>
>"H. Punk Ford" wrote:
>>
>> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
>HAHAHAHAHA! ADVENTURE! Just pick up the bridge, and carry it over there!
>Yeah, whatever! HAHAHAHA!
>
>That fucking game... shit. Poke the dragon with the arrow! Yeah! ROFL!
>
>JT
I wonder what you'd consider Pong. An action game, or a sports game?
Maybe it counts as online multiplayer, or a simulation.
H. Punk Ford
[SNIP]
>My first RPG was a 3-day rental of Secret of Mana during my brief
>ownership of a SNES. I rented it mainly for the music, which I heard was
>excellent (at this time I had just begun to really value game for their
>soundtracks). While I enjoyed the game, I never got back to it after that
>rental, and RPGs were always last on the "must-play" scale.
>
>In 1997, though, FF7 reinterested me in the RPG. I put my money down on
>it, then rented Wild Arms, Ogre Battle and Beyond the Beyond in the
>interim. BtB wasn't too hot (at best), and I got hopelessly stuck on the
>"picture puzzle" part (I have NEVER been able to solve one of those), so
>I wouldn't be going back to that one even if it were good. Ogre Battle
>was extremely engrossing despite its obvious retro-ness. Plus it has a
>Music test menu. But Wild Arms sold me on RPGs. I didn't finish it until
>a year ago, but it will remain a favorite of mine.
>
>If anything, FF7 only sealed RPGs' place in my list of games to play. As
>I get older (just had my 28th Saturday), they've become the first on the
>must-play list. All in only 4 years...
See, this is the kind of story that interests me; someone who came
into the RPG genre some time after I did, and what exactly their
motivations were for doing so. I'd like to get a good view of what the
'new crop' of gameplayers think (since most of those who grew up on
them are in their twenties).
Yoss
Gameboy. I was ten and the Gameboy was my first video game system. I had no
idea what an RPG was. I didn't read gaming magazines or newsgroups. I picked
out my Gameboy games from the picture on the box and I picked out Final Fantasy
Legend for the cool sword on the packaging.
I got it home, played it forever. Wondered when the hell the game would end.
Didn't understand what it meant to "save" my game. Eventually I got the hang
of the whole thing. Liked it a lot. Bought Final Fantasy Legend 2, but my
copy had a bug and I never got around to getting a new one.
I lost interest in video games around age 13 and didn't play any for a long
time. Then a year ago I decided to funnel some extra cash into an N64. I had
no idea what I was getting into. Before I knew it I was surrounded by the N64,
a Saturn, a Genesis, a Playstation, and finally an SNES. Too many systems, too
many games. The one that really got me back into RPG's was Final Fantasy VII.
I really can't wait to finish it (I'm mid-through disc 2) so I can get started
on Xenogears, Lunar, and Star Ocean 2.
(Yoss)
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> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
>
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Okay, I've been really playing RPG's for less than 2 years. It was the
all those kickass commericials for FF7 that made me say "Damn, I want
that game." and go out and buy a playstation in the first place. but
where it really starts is FF6 (FF3 U.S.) and I played it once at a
friends house on some rainy day and he had great tasting beef soup i
think "back in the day" in late 1995 when promos for chronotrigger
looked amazing at the time. but it was only one play of FF6, but I was
impressed with what I saw, couldn't believe that a video game could
actually have a storyline, with characters, and dialogue. It got me
started, but SNES was in its dying days, and i sure as hell couldn't
afford any of the new systems, and I went on a video game drought for
about two years and went to computer games. But the PC really didn't
impress me too much, when you played one realtime strategy game, you
played them all and hated the idea of having to upgrade stuff like vid
cards and crap. Then i I remembered FF6, how it impressed me, how it
was actually fun to go roaming around in edgar's castle and talking to
people, not knowing what could happen next; the cut scene when the
castle sinks for the first time and Terra, Locke, and Edgar jump on the
chocobos never left my head, still awes me. So bored in general and
also frustrated with PC gaming (my computer pissed me off, I was no
comp. techie and installing stuff annoyed me) I got FF6 and played
through the whole thing, totally in awe of a game that actually had a
full storyline and character development; it was probably after seeing
the opera house scenes is when I really got into it. This was early
1998, almost three years after I originally played FF6 once at the
friend's house (lost much communication with that friend over the years,
but that happens I guess) and it hooked me. This was also after getting
my mind blown by the FF7 commericials. So after FF6, I bought a
Playstation, got FF7, and after that game, I've been into RPGs ever
since. Storyline always counts a lot for me, rather than the really
mediocre gameplay most RPGs offer, since that what's got me hooked into
the genre in the first place.
Scott Sim W. Y.
>In article <3778fa00...@news.alt.net>,
> punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>> This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>> in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>> three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>> Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>> made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>> 'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>> non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>> Zelda, and Pokemon.)
Been playing since PS2 on the Genesis. But it's really FF2US that was
the clincher. These characters felt more realistic than that found in
other JRPGs.
>What hooked me on this genre was NOT the ability to take on the persona
>of some 10-year old dressed like a fairy, but rather the excitement and
>challenge of exploring strange lands, finding hidden objects and solving
>puzzles in order to achieve a goal. I went on to play and complete all
>the Zeldas and Final Fantasy V (I think it was V) for the NES and SNES,
>Phantasy Star for the Genesis and several others. While not strictly
>RPG'S, I also played (and loved) all the Scott Adams adventure games for
>the Atari computer, and the Infocom series of adventures (Starcross,
>Infidel, etc). I loved them all. Funny thing is, I've tried several
>RPG's for the Playstation over the years (King's Field II, FF VII,
>Alundra) and did not particularly like any of them (nor did I come close
>to finishing any of them...I just lost interest). I dunno, maybe I've
>outgrown the genre or gotten more impatient as the demands on my time
>have gotten greater over the years. Or, just maybe, I'll find that one
>game that will suck me in the way "Gallahad" did, to the point of not
>sleeping or eating or going to work for days at a time. Then again,
>maybe I'm just getting old and jaded.
Try Xenogears. It's one of the rare few which I actually felt was
interesting enough to complete.
Jal Karela
punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) rented a
plane to write the following words in the skies of
alt.games.final-fantasy:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
>I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
>really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
>the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
>actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
>leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Dragon Warrior was also the first JRPG I've ever played. I got hooked
pretty quickly for some reason, and bought all of the NES sequels. If
DW5 and DW6 (for SNES) had ever been released, I would have bought
them, too. I also played a few other NES RPGs including Final Fantasy.
Moving on to the SNES's introduction, the first RPG (and the second
game of any kind, the first being Super Mario World, the pack-in) I've
ever played for SNES was Final Fantasy II. The manner in which the
story was told and the relatively faster-paced action was a welcome
change. FF:MQ, although fun, was never more than an entertaining
diversion.
Ok, enough about me. ;-)
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Luke Drelick
punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre?
The original Dragon Warrior... it came out on NES and they were hyping
it in Nintendo Power... with the screenshots, it looked very
different, and at that age (6), I thought that anything Nintendo Power
hypes is good so I decided to rent it. After spending 1 hour and
frequent consultations to the manual I finally got out of the first
room (with the king in it) and got to play. I just walked around
fighting, I remember bragging to friends how I got to "Level 5" :)
Final Fantasy was my next RPG... I didn't really want it at first,
since my dad used to love DW and was always playing it (now he plays
degenerate crap like the awful Tomb Fucker series) and I knew he
wanted me to get Final Fantasy so he could play it, so I held off.
Then I read all the previews in NP (this game was reviewed up the
wazoo, it was like the biggest NES game since Zelda 2 in the mag and
it got SO MUCH coverage)... and I loved the story, so I got it. I
played it like an addict, hooking all my friends (and forcing them to
build up for me =) ), and all...
But what really told me that I loved RPG's was the day I played
Phantasy Star. it was like a game from another planet. The story, the
whole concept of travelling through space, it was mind blowing. So
far, the only game to touch me in the way that Phantasy Star 1 did
would be the original Star Ocean.
And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
I think the whole concept of a huge world throughout space in PS1
hooked me. Because of that I got a Genesis and PS2 and 3 instead of
SNES.
>I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
>really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
>the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
>actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
>leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
Oh, I loved FF2 for SNES, that game made me buy a SNES later on.
Sigmund C. Shen
> really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
> the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
> actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
> leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
i was just thinking about this today, while sitting in an empty
classroom overlooking the brooklyn college campus. i think the
thing that drew me in to dragon warrior and the other RPG's is,
strangely enough, trees. trees and fields and mountains and
rivers. growing up in new york city, you don't get a lot of
that. the feeling of exploring a whole forest, walking around
a huge mountain range, crossing a bridge to a peninsula, that's
what really hooked me on dw3, my first rpg. i think it's the
reason why i was so aching to get out of midgar when i first
played ff7, and why to this day i have little interest in
trying out PE. weird, huh?
Kim Wild
punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
>
>I'll go first: my first introduction was Dragon Warrior I, but I never
>really got addicted to the style of game until Final Fantasy II for
>the SNES. The reason I got drawn in was because the characters
>actually had dialogue, and it gave some purpose to the endless
>leveling up and monster battling I'd been doing for all that time.
I know this is an old post but I am replying anyway.
My first RPG was FF7. I am a newbie to the world of RPGS. Since then I
have been playing the rest of the Final Fantasies, Alundra, FFT,
Vandal Hearts, Suikoden, Secret of Mana, Lufia, Ct and a fair few
others.
Kim
Senior Staff member for www.PlaystationFan.com
Money Dragon
punki...@techno.techno.technologist.com (H. Punk Ford) wrote:
>This has probably been done before, but I'm curious. How many people
>in these newsgroups have been playing Japanese RPGs for less than
>three years? For less than five? Since Adventure first came out on the
>Atari 2600? What was your first introduction to the genre? And what
>made you stick with, or abandon it? I want to know how people get
>'worked in' to playing something they aren't used to. (This includes
>non-traditional or "on the fringe" RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics,
>Zelda, and Pokemon.)
I started down the RPG path by playing Ultima Exodus for NES. Never
really figured it out during the rental. Later, I got into D+D and
TMNT RPG thanks to some of my friends. Later, I read a review in
(this one will date me, I know!) Nintendo Fun Club News about a game
called Dragon Warrior. (BTW, does anyone remember what the main
character's name was, according to that review?) It was billed as a
Zelda-like game with RPG flavor. I knew I had to get that game, and I
did, despite an almost Zelda2 like wait. Well, the game was hardly
Zelda-like, but I enjoyed it just the same. Eventually, I even
regained interest in U:Exodus. By the time FF came out here, I was
considered "seasoned", especially since I did not get a PC for another
3 years.
>
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