Stereo on Nintendo64???
Scott Croom
Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
Thanks
--
ScottCrooM
ccr...@roanoke.infi.net
Hanson
"Scott Croom" <ccr...@roanoke.infi.net> wrote:
The stereo hook-up is the same cable as the one for the SNES. The N64
will come with another one as well. By keeping the cable the same,
Nintendo saves money, keeps the cable proprietary, and allows you to
switch between your N64 and SNES by switching from one multi-out to
another in the back of the console itself rather than pulling out all
the RCA jacks from your TV or VCR.
Speaking of stereo, the following games have surround sound:
Super Metroid
MK3
Starfox
Tecmo Superbowl III
Ken Griffey Winning Run
Gemfire (go figure)
This list is by no means comprehensive -- they're only a list of games
I own that I personally know have surround separation. Curiously
enough, neither DKC game has surround. Hmm...
I'm pretty sure all N64 games will have surround as well, considering
it takes up either very minor amounts of space or none at all,
depending on whom you listen to.
Hanson
"Take your stinking paws off of me, you damn dirty ape!"
- George Taylor
Jonathan Jalving
: Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
: don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
: buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
: new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
: Thanks
I heard that the same A/V cables will work with SNES and N64. As you
know the cables give you video and left and right audio. I can't wait to
hook it up and play SM64 in Dolby Surroundsound.
--
Jonathan Jalving
jjal...@psd.k12.co.us
What's the difference between a garden slug and a
two-inch-long, living booger?
I can't think of a difference either.
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Jack VanDenKieboom
Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
: Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
: don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
: buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
: new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
: Thanks
: ScottCrooM
: ccr...@roanoke.infi.net
Scott,
No..
Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
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~~~~~~~~
- Jack van den Kieboom--
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Casella/Dow
Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
>
> Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
> : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
> : don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
> : buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
> : new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
> : Thanks
> : --
> : ScottCrooM
> : ccr...@roanoke.infi.net
>
> Scott,
>
> No..
>
> Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
> but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
> the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
>
The above statement is incorrect. I rented a japanese N64 and it had
A/V cables in the back (exactly the same as the a/v cables on the super
NES) with stereo capabilities. Two rca cables (red and white)for audio
and one yellow for video.
Antony
xcaliber
Casella/Dow <d...@johnabbott.qc.ca> wrote:
: Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
: > Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
: > : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
: > : don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
: > : buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
: > : new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
: >
: >
: > Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
: > but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
: > the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
: The above statement is incorrect. I rented a japanese N64 and it had
: A/V cables in the back (exactly the same as the a/v cables on the super
: NES) with stereo capabilities. Two rca cables (red and white)for audio
: and one yellow for video.
The above statement is incorrect and the statement above the above is
correct. The N64 sounds like a handheld blip game, don't try to cover it
up. The PSX with it's pixelated poly-glitching Crash on a track rulez,
duhhhh. :-D
Jimmy Le
What are you talking about? A/V cables = the red and white are the left
and right sound channels. The yellow is for video. Regardless of sound
quality (which I think is adequate), it is in stereo. act like you
know.
Steve Bollinger
In article <324254...@u.washington.edu>, Jimmy Le
<u...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
: > : > No..
No, he's right. I rented a Japanese unit. Not only the the speaker
small (mono) and buzzy, but whenever it tries to generate low notes,
the case rattles! NINTENDO IS GOING DOWN! ;>
Hanson
Jimmy Le <u...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>xcaliber wrote:
>> Casella/Dow <d...@johnabbott.qc.ca> wrote:
>> : Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
>> : > Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
>> : > : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES?
>> : > Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
>> : > but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
>> : > the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
>>
>> : The above statement is incorrect. I rented a japanese N64 and it had
>> : A/V cables in the back (exactly the same as the a/v cables on the super
>> : NES) with stereo capabilities. Two rca cables (red and white)for audio
>> : and one yellow for video.
>>
>> The above statement is incorrect and the statement above the above is
>> correct. The N64 sounds like a handheld blip game, don't try to cover it
>> up. The PSX with it's pixelated poly-glitching Crash on a track rulez,
>> duhhhh. :-D
>
>What are you talking about? A/V cables = the red and white are the left
>and right sound channels. The yellow is for video. Regardless of sound
>quality (which I think is adequate), it is in stereo. act like you
>know.
You're wrong. Nintendo has a small internal speaker similar to a PC
speaker. Even if you hook up the stereo cables, the N64 hardware
isn't capable of handling it, so all you get are bleeps and boops
through your TV. The Atari 2600 had better sound hardware, but the
Tramiels wouldn't allow the license for the technology to Nintendo.
As a result, Nintendo had to turn to IBM's PC speaker set up. I don't
mind since the 2600 had some great games.
Curt Ericson
The N64 will come packaged with a Stereo A/V cable (same as the one
from the SNES).
Hector Ramos
DUH!!! There will be an A/V Stereo cable for the big N!!! If u don't
believe me visit Nintendo's site at www.nintendo.com!!!
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DarkStar
xcaliber wrote:
>
> Casella/Dow <d...@johnabbott.qc.ca> wrote:
> : Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
> : > Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
> : > : don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
> : > : buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
> : > : new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
> : >
> : > No..
> : >
> : > but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
> : > the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
>
> : The above statement is incorrect. I rented a japanese N64 and it had
> : A/V cables in the back (exactly the same as the a/v cables on the super
> : NES) with stereo capabilities. Two rca cables (red and white)for audio
> : and one yellow for video.
>
> The above statement is incorrect and the statement above the above is
> correct. The N64 sounds like a handheld blip game, don't try to cover it
> up. The PSX with it's pixelated poly-glitching Crash on a track rulez,
> duhhhh. :-D
Thank God for little ASCII face things. :P ;) >:)
DarkStar- In essence, only a little ASCII face in his own right.
Jeffrey Hopman
Scott, This guy obviously is a Sega or Sony fan. The N64 will come with
the same stereo cable as the SNES. In fact you can use the same one from
your SNES as you can with the N64, they are reversable. The sound will be
great.
On 19 Sep 1996, Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
> Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
> : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
> : don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
> : buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
> : new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
> : Thanks
> : --
> : ScottCrooM
> : ccr...@roanoke.infi.net
>
>
> Scott,
>
> No..
>
> Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
> but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
> the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
>
Jack van den Kieboom
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Jeffrey Hopman wrote:
>
> Scott, This guy obviously is a Sega or Sony fan. The N64 will come with
> the same stereo cable as the SNES. In fact you can use the same one from
> your SNES as you can with the N64, they are reversable. The sound will be
> great.
-----supposedly referring to me??
--- Jeff said this because I had followed up a thread
> On 19 Sep 1996
---with this:
> > Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
> > : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES? I
> > : don't know because nobody has mentioned it yet. Do you get one when you
> > : buy the system or do you use the old one that came with the SNES or buy a
> > : new one? I was just wondering because I have mine hooked up to my stereo.
> > : Thanks
> > : --
> > : ScottCrooM
> > : ccr...@roanoke.infi.net
> >
> >
> > Scott,
-------(this is where I came in)--
> > No..
> >
> > Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
> > but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
> > the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
-- ****//see that?\\\**
What I was joking at is that I think it would be ridiculous to think
that there wouldn't be good sound hook up available with the N64 .
( of course they will....."Play it Loud!!")
...What I want to know is if I go with the SVHS input on my TV for my
pictures, do I still have a way to get audio RCA leads up to my Pro Logic
system?
Steve Bollinger
In article
<Pine.GSO.3.95.960924...@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
Jack van den Kieboom <ak...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> wrote:
: ...What I want to know is if I go with the SVHS input on my TV for my
: pictures, do I still have a way to get audio RCA leads up to my Pro Logic
: system?
Yes, the cable has stereo audio outs. You are going to have to figure
out how to run one cable to two different places, though. You may need
to make audio extension cables, with a stereo patch cable and some
jack-to-jack connectors.
No game released for the N64 is encoded in Dolby, so keep your
Pro Logic decoding turned off. You can't create "Dolby Surround"
for a source which doesn't already have it. If you have some goofball
simulated modes, the're probably a better way to go. I just use a
mode which plays the front channels in the back just at reduced volume.
Hanson
boll...@apple.com (Steve Bollinger) wrote:
>No game released for the N64 is encoded in Dolby, so keep your
>Pro Logic decoding turned off. You can't create "Dolby Surround"
>for a source which doesn't already have it. If you have some goofball
>simulated modes, the're probably a better way to go. I just use a
>mode which plays the front channels in the back just at reduced volume.
No N64 game has surround? Are you sure? There are plenty of SNES
games with surround, so I find it hard to believe that the N64 doesn't
have it. I guess I'll find out soon enough.
Hanson
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli"
- Clemenza
Kerry Lee High Jr
Hanson (fat...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Jimmy Le <u...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
: >xcaliber wrote:
: >> Casella/Dow <d...@johnabbott.qc.ca> wrote:
: >> : Jack VanDenKieboom wrote:
: >> : > Scott Croom (ccr...@roanoke.infi.net) wrote:
: >> : > : Is there going to be a stereo hook-up for the Nintendo64 like the SNES?
: >> : > Nintendo put a lot of time and effort into great graphic capabilities,
: >> : > but the sound they forgot about. It is mono only, no audio out. Just
: >> : > the sound from the internal 2" speaker.... ;^)
: >>
: >> : The above statement is incorrect. I rented a japanese N64 and it had
: >> : A/V cables in the back (exactly the same as the a/v cables on the super
: >> : NES) with stereo capabilities. Two rca cables (red and white)for audio
: >> : and one yellow for video.
: >>
: >> The above statement is incorrect and the statement above the above is
: >> correct. The N64 sounds like a handheld blip game, don't try to cover it
: >> up. The PSX with it's pixelated poly-glitching Crash on a track rulez,
: >> duhhhh. :-D
: >
: >What are you talking about? A/V cables = the red and white are the left
: >and right sound channels. The yellow is for video. Regardless of sound
: >quality (which I think is adequate), it is in stereo. act like you
: >know.
: You're wrong. Nintendo has a small internal speaker similar to a PC
: speaker. Even if you hook up the stereo cables, the N64 hardware
: isn't capable of handling it, so all you get are bleeps and boops
: through your TV. The Atari 2600 had better sound hardware, but the
: Tramiels wouldn't allow the license for the technology to Nintendo.
: As a result, Nintendo had to turn to IBM's PC speaker set up. I don't
: mind since the 2600 had some great games.
Correct, but did you know that the games have the capibility to play the
Atari 2600 quality music? There's an option on my N64 emulator on the
Sinclair ZX80 to enable that sound (emulated through the cassette port).
BTW, the ZX80 port of the N64 emulator can now run PW64! (sort of.) And
it can play SM64 about 95% (The ending locks up :( ). The HP48 version
works about 50% on SM64.
-Kerry High
khi...@umr.edu
Download my N64 emulator for the Sinclair ZX80 and HP48G at
http://127.0.0.1/dev/nul/n64.html
Steve Bollinger
In article <3249bd61...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, fat...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
The N64 is capable of it. The sound output hardware is phase accurate.
But the first two games aren't in Dolby Surround. The sounds generated
by the game has to be Dolby encoded. They aren't in M64 or PW64.
Maybe soon.
Hanson
boll...@apple.com (Steve Bollinger) wrote:
I suppose this is going to be one of those "what is Dolby Surround"
arguments. Let me tell you from empirical knowledge that Mario 64 has
4 channel sound (L, R, Center, back). If you have surround sound
speakers, Mario uses them all. To me, that's surround sound. Perhaps
not true Dolby surround (although it sure sounds like it to me), but
what they hey, it still works.
Brian Kennedy
In article <324ae591...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Hanson
(fat...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
:I suppose this is going to be one of those "what is Dolby Surround"
:arguments. Let me tell you from empirical knowledge that Mario 64 has
:4 channel sound (L, R, Center, back). If you have surround sound
:speakers, Mario uses them all. To me, that's surround sound. Perhaps
:not true Dolby surround (although it sure sounds like it to me), but
:what they hey, it still works.
Well, what do you know, you have turned this into a "what is Dolby
surround?" thread.
Anyway, let me throw in my 2 cents and say that Dolby *Pro Logic* Surround
has five independent channels: Left, Right, Center, Surround Left,
Surround Right. AFAIK, the setup you describe (with "back" as one
channel) doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant to describe it as 5-channel
sound? Anyway, if a channel is going to be missing, it's the center
channel.
:Hanson
:"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli"
: - Clemenza
Like the quote, love the movie, but miss the "damn dirty ape" quote.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Kennedy
b...@acpub.duke.edu
Dave McGruther
On 26 Sep 1996 21:29:19 GMT, b...@acpub.duke.edu (Brian Kennedy) wrote:
>In article <324ae591...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Hanson
>(fat...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>:I suppose this is going to be one of those "what is Dolby Surround"
>:arguments. Let me tell you from empirical knowledge that Mario 64 has
>:4 channel sound (L, R, Center, back). If you have surround sound
>:speakers, Mario uses them all. To me, that's surround sound. Perhaps
>:not true Dolby surround (although it sure sounds like it to me), but
>:what they hey, it still works.
>
>Well, what do you know, you have turned this into a "what is Dolby
>surround?" thread.
>
>Anyway, let me throw in my 2 cents and say that Dolby *Pro Logic* Surround
>has five independent channels: Left, Right, Center, Surround Left,
>Surround Right. AFAIK, the setup you describe (with "back" as one
>channel) doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant to describe it as 5-channel
>sound? Anyway, if a channel is going to be missing, it's the center
>channel.
>
Actually, I think Hanson was right. Dolby Pro Logic is Front Right,
Center, Front Left, and Mono Surround (rear speakers). AC-3 is what
you are thinking of. That has a distinct Left Rear and Right Rear.
Hanson
b...@acpub.duke.edu (Brian Kennedy) wrote:
>Well, what do you know, you have turned this into a "what is Dolby
>surround?" thread.
>
>Anyway, let me throw in my 2 cents and say that Dolby *Pro Logic* Surround
>has five independent channels: Left, Right, Center, Surround Left,
>Surround Right. AFAIK, the setup you describe (with "back" as one
>channel) doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant to describe it as 5-channel
>sound? Anyway, if a channel is going to be missing, it's the center
>channel.
Some one correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will), but Dolby
Surround only has four channels. The rear is mono. There is a
different surround system that will be supported by DVD that is true 5
channel sound. Used to be called AC-3 or something, but they've since
changed the name.
Brian Kennedy
In article <324b6c1d...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Hanson
(fat...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
:b...@acpub.duke.edu (Brian Kennedy) wrote:
:>Anyway, let me throw in my 2 cents and say that Dolby *Pro Logic* Surround
:>has five independent channels: Left, Right, Center, Surround Left,
:>Surround Right. AFAIK, the setup you describe (with "back" as one
:>channel) doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant to describe it as 5-channel
:>sound? Anyway, if a channel is going to be missing, it's the center
:>channel.
:Some one correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will), but Dolby
:Surround only has four channels. The rear is mono.
:Hanson
:"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli"
: - Clemenza
Dammit, I'm right! You're _all_ wrong! The whole bloody lot of you!
... okay, maybe not. You (and others) are right. I was indeed mistaken.
"Pro Logic" surround sound has only four independent channels. The rear
channel is monoaural. (But I was so sure of myself! :) )
However, I was correct about you turning this into a "What is Dolby
Surround Sound?" thread.
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Brian Kennedy
b...@acpub.duke.edu
Ronny
> boll...@apple.com (Steve Bollinger) wrote:
>
> >In article <3249bd61...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
fat...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
>
> I suppose this is going to be one of those "what is Dolby Surround"
> arguments. Let me tell you from empirical knowledge that Mario 64 has
> 4 channel sound (L, R, Center, back). If you have surround sound
> speakers, Mario uses them all. To me, that's surround sound. Perhaps
> not true Dolby surround (although it sure sounds like it to me), but
> what they hey, it still works.
>
> Hanson
> "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli"
> - Clemenza
With a center channel it is Pro Logic.
Are you getting independant sounds in each channel?
Are you in pro logic mode or a simulated mode?
Hector Ramos
On Saturday, September 28, 1996, Ronny wrote...
When I play Super Mario64 on my Dolby Surround system, different sounds
come from each speaker:
Center Channel: Mario's screams and voice
Front Speakers: Music
Rear Speakers: Sound Effects
if you are playing Super Mario64 without Dolby Surround, you are missing a
LOT!
David J. Wang
> >
> >:I suppose this is going to be one of those "what is Dolby Surround"
> >:arguments. Let me tell you from empirical knowledge that Mario 64 has
> >:4 channel sound (L, R, Center, back). If you have surround sound
> >:speakers, Mario uses them all. To me, that's surround sound. Perhaps
> >:not true Dolby surround (although it sure sounds like it to me), but
> >:what they hey, it still works.
I think you need to more clearly define 4 "channel" would those be distinct
channels? I think that I would be on safe ground if I were to use the
same reasoning and claim that my gameboy has 6 channel sound -- if I
have 6 speakers, I can get the gameboy to use all 6 (and a subwoofer
too)... doesn't mean it will sound good or that they are 6 discrete
channels, but it's 6 "channels" of sound.
David
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Hanson
d...@cwis.welch.jhu.edu (David J. Wang) wrote:
>I think you need to more clearly define 4 "channel" would those be distinct
>channels? I think that I would be on safe ground if I were to use the
>same reasoning and claim that my gameboy has 6 channel sound -- if I
>have 6 speakers, I can get the gameboy to use all 6 (and a subwoofer
>too)... doesn't mean it will sound good or that they are 6 discrete
>channels, but it's 6 "channels" of sound.
*Sigh* -- I thought this thread was over already, but...
I think we can safely say that Mario is in at least stereo. So the
left, right, and center channels are the same as for any stereo. Just
as an example, tinkling of coins to the right side of the screen come
out stronger on the right channel.
The rear channel has independant sounds from the front channels. For
instance, at the Mario title screen, the rear plays only the drums
while the front has drums and what sounds like a vibraphone or steel
drum. Pilotwings actually has better musical surround effects, but
the music borders on bad, so it's not a real plus. I really don't
understand what they were thinking -- they had options regarding which
instruments to sample, and they went for the synthesizer sound anyway.
But I digress.
Even the lowly SNES had *independant* 4 channel sound for some games.
eg -- Tecmo Superbowl III has crowd noise only from the rear, but
crowd noise and snap count from the front channels. That's why I
assumed that the N64 would have surround as well. And it does.