Zelda 64, another gay game...
Dorian Alan
cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
kwarlord
Dorian Alan wrote in message <363FA053...@huh.com>...
>It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>simply because the main character is a woman.
no...we bash Tomb Raider because it plays like shit. Metroid is 20x better
than Nude Raider and it also stars a woman.
Now you are all
>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64.
I thought the gayest game of all was Spice World?
You
>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>big earrings.
he doesn't wear earings. that was either taken out or some sort of myth
started by queers such as yourself
Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
>Link?
good point.
> Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda?
maybe you secretly want to become Zelda and were disappointed. Hey don't
feel sad, you can have your pretend sex change playing Lara Croft.
You N64 drones are
>welcome to this gay game.
you PSX Drones are welcome to your gay games as well.
Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
>
>
coming soon, another gay game, Crash Bandicoot:Warped.
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Matt Seidl wrote in message ...
>>no...we bash Tomb Raider because it plays like shit. Metroid is 20x better
>>than Nude Raider and it also stars a woman.
>
>
>
you can't read? he was saying we were afraid of tomb Raider because it stars
a bimbo..er, woman.
Joshua S Redford
screen shots, quicktimes, etc.) that Link likes to hang around in the
company of fairies:)
Just a joke, albeit a rather poor one that everyone most likely saw
coming:)
On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, karen+ang wrote:
> I think we all know this is a troll and should ignore him.
>
> karen
>
> On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:31:15 -0500, Dorian Alan <DA...@huh.com> wrote:
>
> >It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
> >cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
> >simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
> >anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
> >all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
> >big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
> >Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
> >welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
> >
>
>
>
Steve McDevitt
This "fact" is as factual as saying all PSX owners are wife beaters...
<<You all like to play cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing
games like Tomb Raider simply because the main character is a woman.>>
Not all of us bash Tomb Raider. I do, however, because the play control
sucks...
<<Now you are all anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of
all, Zelda 64. You all can't wait to play the game with that delicate
little elf with the big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda?>>
Because that's who you are trying to save. You remember... oh yeah, you
weren't born yet when the first one came out.
<<Shouldn't it be called Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become
Zelda? You N64 drones are welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another
gay game, Conkers...>>
Dear 12 year old. Back when you were still in the womb there was this
game called Zelda. It was on something called the NES (Nintendo
Entertainment System). You see, Zelda was one of the greatest games to
come out at that time, and (not counting the second one) Zeldas have
gotten better and better. This game will be great, and if you like to
call people homosexuals while we play possibly the greatest game to ever
be released... fine.
Steve McDevitt
D B
attention... and it seems he's getting it.
Richard K Kim
Dorian Alan wrote in message <363FA053...@huh.com>...
>It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. (snip)
Yes, we are. We are absolutely ecstatic that we will soon be playing one
of the greatest games of all time in a matter of days.
-Rich
Joe Ottoson
(ShdwofLink) wrote:
> << Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
> >Link?>>
>
>
> No... because it was named after the BABE in the game and she's the best.
You mean the "babe" you never really see? ;)
Cause
> it wouldn't be the Legends of Link would it? Because he's not the main basic
> important character.
Yeah, who gives a crap about the protagonist of a story anyway? No real
books focus on this loser! ;)
Scott Griffith
gay game." I hope I don't change my sexual orientation while playing it...
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karen+ang wrote in message <363fa6af...@news.singnet.com.sg>...
>I think we all know this is a troll and should ignore him.
>
>karen
>
>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:31:15 -0500, Dorian Alan <DA...@huh.com> wrote:
>
>>It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
>>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>>simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
>>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
>>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>>big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
karen+ang
Matt Seidl
karen+ang
<red...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>Oh, I completely agree with him. After all, we have all witnessed (from
>screen shots, quicktimes, etc.) that Link likes to hang around in the
>company of fairies:)
>Just a joke, albeit a rather poor one that everyone most likely saw
>coming:)
>On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, karen+ang wrote:
Well, he didn't really state that Link is gay but all the owners of
Link is gay. I for one is a female and hence already proves his
statement false.
karen
Wind&Cloud
>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
>Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
>welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
>
Wow, I'm gay !? NO WAY. The sh*ts going to hit the fan when my fiance finds
out.
BTW nice name Dorian.
Hardset Head
: It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
: cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
: simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
: anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
: all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
: big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
: Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
: welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
Forget Conkers...I'm waiting for "Big Gay Al's Boat Ride...The Game!"
Alright....being the brilliant (though diseased) troll mind you are you
discovered the great secret that everything Nintendo is gay.
Well...it's...true....it's TRUE I TELL YOU!!! Now let me get back to
ongoing effort to finding all the GameShark codes that enable all
characters in all N64 games to have gay sex!
Oh..and by the way...Link IS Zelda....that's the whole point..I thought
people would have figured it out by now...Link crossdresses, then he
blacks out, and forgets it...so he actually thinks there is a Princess
Zelda, so he goes off to rescue her, but it's really him. It's a fairly
complicated plot....the next Zelda game, "Legend of Zelda: The Gay Bar of
Travelling from one Room to the Next", will cover it in better detail.
(then continued in "Legend of Zelda: The Cola Can of 20/20 eyesight.")
(This has been humor, for those humor-impared)
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ShdwofLink
>Link?>>
No... because it was named after the BABE in the game and she's the best. Cause
it wouldn't be the Legends of Link would it? Because he's not the main basic
important character. He's only the guy you play as. Zelda is the holder and
keeper of the Triforce and it diserves the Title Legend of Zelda. But all the
games always have like- Link's Awakening and Link to the Past, etc. So Link
gets a good break guys. So let him enjoy it...
Remy
Dorian Alan wrote in message <363FA053...@huh.com>...
>It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
>Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
>welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
>
>
Oh dear, my frail ego has been terribly wounded by this manly, macho gamer
who likes to play Tomb Raider (even though the control was horrible and
Eidos is the most overrated developer on Earth) so he can watch Lara's
polygon ass and get off while playing his Playstation. I feel so ashamed and
un-manly for playing "cute" games like Mario and Diddy Kong Racing
allright, I confess, I even enjoyed... <sob!>...Yoshi's Story!!!).
Please!!! Show me how to be a manly gamer just like you!!! Allright, that's
enough sarcasm, time to put this one in it's place. I have always gotten
angry at the type of gamer who criticizes certain games, saying that they
are "gay" because they have cute characters and no blood and guts or T&A.
Who the hell made you the arbiter of what games are "mature" (bloody,
violent, exploitative games like Duke Nukem and Tomb Raider), and what games
are "immature and kiddy" (well designed, thoughtful, games like Mario,
Zelda, etc...). It seems to me that the ones who are *insecure* in their
manhood are the ones who will only play "mature" games, thereby trying to
convince themselves that they are "manly", since they play "manly" games and
ridicule those cute, "gay" games. On the other hand, those of us who are
secure in our manhood can play any game we like, since we don't rely on our
games to define our masculinity. Oh, and if you want to see a strong female
lead character in a video game, don't look to Lara Croft, she's nothing more
than a tool that Eidos uses to get horny, sexually immature young boys to
play their games. If you want strong female lead characters, look to
characters like Samus Aran (Metroid) or Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield
(Resident Evil and RE 2, respectively), none of whom, to my knowledge, have
ever appeared on the cover of PSXtreme, in a skimpy outfit, lying on the
floor in a provocative position with the caption "Play Me" plastered
underneath them. In many ways, I believe that this whole Tomb Raider and
Lara Croft phenomenon is the worst thing to happen to video games since the
FMV games of early CD-Rom systems. Since Tomb Raider came out, I've seen
endless attempts to use sex and T&A to sell games, as well as endless clones
of the Tomb Raider engine (which I despised to begin with). Thankfully,
Nintendo will continue to supply me with "gay" games that actually use these
things called "originality" and "imagination" in their design. Kinda kooky,
huh?
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"Wind&Cloud" <dan...@mincom.oz.au> wrote:
>
> Dorian Alan wrote in message <363FA053...@huh.com>...
> >It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
> >cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
> >simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
> >anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
> >all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
> >big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
> >Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
> >welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
> >
>
> out.
>
> BTW nice name Dorian.
While I can't say that I agree with our pal Dorian there, I have to admit,
it's one of the most entertaining messages of late in this newsgroup. Kudos!
haha.
And to the person that replied to Dorian... that's weak, man.
PS: Remember Kind Dorian from the Mighty Hercules cartoon? (60s)
-stephane
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Don't come over all P.C. with Tomb Raider pal. There is nothing wrong
with having a sexy lead character in video games, male or female. It's
not her fault there are so many bad third person platformer clones,
that's because it is a very difficult and new genre to do well. If you
have a hang up with the marketing and media image of the game, then
fine, but this has very little to do with game itself. (I like Tomb
Raider, you don't, agreed?)
Anyway, that's wrong with some of you people? I have problems equating
ones sexuality to videogaming. I like games regardless of which system
they come from. Cute and fluffy or hardcore and cyberpunk, whatever, if
the game is good, the game is good.
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Blubbs
U must be a PSX owner.
EVERYBODY KNOWS of thost gay prats.
You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t appreciate the
meaning of FUN.
Manga Overkill
wrote:
>You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t appreciate the
>meaning of FUN.
Staring at breasts all day isn`t fun? Maybe you would rather look at
some dude`s schlong? ;-)
zvak
should just sit there wit' your George Michaels style and shut the
fuck up...
Joshua Kaufman
Well, Lara Croft's "breasts" are too big. And they're too pointy as
well.
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Joshua Kaufman wrote in message <3640DA...@email.uc.edu>...
>Manga Overkill wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:01:09 -0000, "Blubbs" <pblu...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t appreciate
the
>> >meaning of FUN.
>>
>> Staring at breasts all day isn`t fun? Maybe you would rather look at
>> some dude`s schlong? ;-)
>
>Well, Lara Croft's "breasts" are too big. And they're too pointy as
>well.
>
U COOD PUT SOMONEZ I OUT WITH DOZ!!!!
kwarlord
Manga Overkill wrote in message <3641a6f6...@nntpserver.swip.net>...
>On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:01:09 -0000, "Blubbs" <pblu...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t appreciate the
>>meaning of FUN.
>
>Staring at breasts all day isn`t fun? Maybe you would rather look at
>some dude`s schlong? ;-)
>
.... I don't like the way he is winking there.
Joseph M Leonard
: Well, Lara Croft's "breasts" are too big. And they're too pointy as
: well.
Yeah, those fuckers are pointy! Yow!
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Dan
perverts who enjoy looking at polygonal breasts, because they can't get
their own women.
8-Bit Star
>
> >
> >Oh dear, my frail ego has been terribly wounded by this manly, macho gamer
> >who likes to play Tomb Raider (even though the control was horrible and
> >Eidos is the most overrated developer on Earth) so he can watch
Eidos? Actually, no. SQUARESOFT is the most overrated Developer on
Earth! I have heard almost no praise for Eidos.
Hardset Head
: Well, he didn't really state that Link is gay but all the owners of
: Link is gay. I for one is a female and hence already proves his
: statement false.
:
: karen
Maybe he was also introducing the philisophical ideal that even women who
play N64 are gay as well.
Nahhhhh...he's just mad as all get-out. :)
(Does this mean Nintendo is going to stop marketing the "gay sex-slave"
version of the Link figurine?)
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dt
> >cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
> >simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
> >anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
> >all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
> >big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
> >Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
> >welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
> >
> >
>
> who likes to play Tomb Raider (even though the control was horrible and
My goodness... from the length of that defensive reply... I guess the
poster struck a nerve with you huh?
D
Skye
folks willing to get on their knees for Zelda.
Skye
Scott Griffith wrote in message <3640c...@206.152.255.253>...
>NO! Let's try to rationalize with him and try to figure out why "Zelda is
a
>gay game." I hope I don't change my sexual orientation while playing it...
>
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>
>
>karen+ang wrote in message <363fa6af...@news.singnet.com.sg>...
>>I think we all know this is a troll and should ignore him.
>>
>>karen
>>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:31:15 -0500, Dorian Alan <DA...@huh.com> wrote:
>>
Arkham
Proven by Prof. Lewis of Harvard, back in '92.
>>You all like to play
>>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>>simply because the main character is a woman.
I thought it was because it was a repetitive, overrated game.
Anyway, I would rather eat real dick that stare at fake tits any day.
>>Now you are all
>>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64.
Indeed.
>>You
>>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>>big earrings.
The bigger, the better.
>>You N64 drones are
>>welcome to this gay game.
You're too kind.
>>Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
Don't dismiss animals until you've tried them.
(especially of the barn yard variety...yum yum...)
Remy
dt wrote in message <36415A...@hotmail.com>...
>
>My goodness... from the length of that defensive reply... I guess the
>poster struck a nerve with you huh?
>
>D
>
>
>
Well, yeah, it *did* strike a nerve. Only because after working at an EB
for the last three years (I no longer work there anymore, so I *am* slowly
recovering), I was subjected to constant complaining by these "macho" gamers
who thought that every "cute" game was kiddie or "gay" (some of my favorite
games being included in that category). So I wasn't really replying just to
the original poster, it was kind of a way of venting all the frustrations
that I have built up over the last few years. Yeah, I got a little carried
away. But I feel better now :-)
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Hardset Head
: >
: >My goodness... from the length of that defensive reply... I guess the
: >poster struck a nerve with you huh?
: >
: >D
:
: Well, yeah, it *did* strike a nerve. Only because after working at an EB
: for the last three years (I no longer work there anymore, so I *am* slowly
: recovering), I was subjected to constant complaining by these "macho" gamers
: who thought that every "cute" game was kiddie or "gay" (some of my favorite
: games being included in that category). So I wasn't really replying just to
: the original poster, it was kind of a way of venting all the frustrations
: that I have built up over the last few years. Yeah, I got a little carried
: away. But I feel better now :-)
DT is just a troll. I think he was implying that your reply meant you
were gay...and one the same token that, if you were, you should be ashamed
and go hide. He typically pipes up to fling veiled insults that way...:)
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#It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
#cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
#simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
#anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
#all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with
the
#big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be
called
#Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
#welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
#
#
You don't get out much, do you?
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<mar...@cyberart.demon.co.uk> wrote:
#Don't come over all P.C. with Tomb Raider pal. There is nothing wrong
#with having a sexy lead character in video games, male or female.
You obviously didn't read his post properly. He never said that lead
female characters in games shouldn't be allowed, he said that Lara
Croft and the hype surrounding her has cheapened gaming to stultefying
proportions. He also cited several other lead female characters in
games that were much better so that's your opening statement
completely and utterly deflated there.
BTW, I for one happen to agree with him on the Tomb Raider thing.
Sorry.
# It's
#not her fault there are so many bad third person platformer clones,
#that's because it is a very difficult and new genre to do well.
What ever gave you the idea that ANYBODY was putting any "blame" on a
make-believe computer-generated character?
Hint: Heavy MJ sessions and newsgroup postings don't mix. As your
scrappy, poorly thought out post attests.
#If you
#have a hang up with the marketing and media image of the game, then
#fine, but this has very little to do with game itself. (I like Tomb
#Raider, you don't, agreed?)
He never said he had a problem with Tomb Raider and certainly never
suggested anything along the lines of having a "hang-up". You are
making all of this up, guy!
I repeat: The original poster's bone of contention was the fact that
Lara Croft was an overrated entity used to sell overrated games. As I
said, I agree. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is female
or scantily clad, it's just the concept, the idea, the campaign... the
whole Lara Croft thing is unbelievably bogus.
I suspect that you probably think think that a scanty Lara on the from
of a mag with "Play me" written on it is ever-so-cool in your
adolescent mind, but that kind of cheap advertising just makes me
think "Oh please.."
Again, let me point out, it has nothing to do with being "PC" or how
she is or isn't dressed. It's just that the whole thing is an obvious
ploy to rope in dumb adolescents and idiot casual gamers who jump on
the Tomb Raider/Playstation bandwagon not because they care for games,
but because the see "Some bird with big tits" and think it's "cool".
I don't know about you, but I for one like my gaming without
pretentions. Sorry if you don't.
#Anyway, that's wrong with some of you people? I have problems
equating
#ones sexuality to videogaming. I like games regardless of which
system
#they come from. Cute and fluffy or hardcore and cyberpunk, whatever,
if
#the game is good, the game is good.
Well, it's nice to know that you did comprehend at least part of the
original post correctly...
Phoenix Gamma
#
Oh, and if you want to see a strong female
#lead character in a video game, don't look to Lara Croft, she's
nothing more
#than a tool that Eidos uses to get horny, sexually immature young
boys to
#play their games. If you want strong female lead characters, look to
#characters like Samus Aran (Metroid) or Jill Valentine and Claire
Redfield
#(Resident Evil and RE 2, respectively), none of whom, to my
knowledge, have
#ever appeared on the cover of PSXtreme, in a skimpy outfit, lying on
the
#floor in a provocative position with the caption "Play Me" plastered
#underneath them. In many ways, I believe that this whole Tomb Raider
and
#Lara Croft phenomenon is the worst thing to happen to video games
since the
#FMV games of early CD-Rom systems. Since Tomb Raider came out, I've
seen
#endless attempts to use sex and T&A to sell games, as well as endless
clones
#of the Tomb Raider engine (which I despised to begin with). T
*claps!*
Amen to that, I agree entirely!
The Tomb Raider franchise has cheapened gaming and turned it into
another vessel for popular culture vultures who can't get into
anything unless somebody somehwere tells them that it's cool and hip
and happening, man!
Lara has singlehandedly roped in a whole slew of casual gamers who
would've never gone near a console of any desciption before, but hey
now they see a "chick with big tits", so it's gotta be cool now,
right?
If the marketing for Tomb Raider wasn't so brazenly deliberate and
false, then I'd have no problems, but I happen to think the whole
Lara/sex symbol thing to be really sad. She's a damn
computer-generated image for pity's sake! A badly drawn one at that!
Phoenix Gamma
wrote:
#On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:01:09 -0000, "Blubbs" <pblu...@netcomuk.co.uk>
#wrote:
#
#>You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t
appreciate the
#>meaning of FUN.
#
#Staring at breasts all day isn`t fun? Maybe you would rather look at
#some dude`s schlong? ;-)
Well no ,but from a personal standpoint, let me point out the
following:-
a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs a
girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
c) I prefer smaller breasted women anyway! :)
That is all.
Phoenix Gamma
wrote:
#
#
#.... I don't like the way he is winking there.
#
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Methinks someone walked straight into that one!! :)
Dorian Alan
Blubbs wrote:
> How come u know so much?
> U must be a PSX owner.
> EVERYBODY KNOWS of thost gay prats.
> You just like TR to stare at her breasts all day and don`t appreciate the
> meaning of FUN.
I'd rather stare at her breasts than Mario's italian sausage.
Dorian Alan
> On the other hand, those of us who are
> secure in our manhood can play any game we like, since we don't rely on our
> games to define our masculinity. Oh, and if you want to see a strong female
> lead character in a video game, don't look to Lara Croft, she's nothing more
> than a tool that Eidos uses to get horny, sexually immature young boys to
> play their games. If you want strong female lead characters, look to
> characters like Samus Aran (Metroid) or Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield
> (Resident Evil and RE 2, respectively), none of whom, to my knowledge, have
> ever appeared on the cover of PSXtreme, in a skimpy outfit, lying on the
> floor in a provocative position with the caption "Play Me" plastered
> underneath them.
LOL! Samus Aran? Yeah, finish Metroid faster, faster, faster.. and you get to
see her in less and less clothing. Looks like you never finished it. As
evidenced by the absence of a Metroid sequel, it was never really popular
because N64 owners are gay.
"Play Me"? It just means to play Tomb Raider.
Dorian Alan
> Well, Lara Croft's "breasts" are too big.
That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't like breasts.
> And they're too pointy as
> well.
That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't know a women's nipples hardens
when she's aroused.
Dorian Alan
> If that's what it takes to play the game, though, I'm sure you'll find a few
> folks willing to get on their knees for Zelda.
N64 owners are usually on their knees.
Dorian Alan
The N64 perverts like to look at and play with men, elves and animals
rather than women.
Dorian Alan
> Well, yeah, it *did* strike a nerve. Only because after working at an EB
> for the last three years (I no longer work there anymore, so I *am* slowly
> recovering), I was subjected to constant complaining by these "macho" gamers
> who thought that every "cute" game was kiddie or "gay" (some of my favorite
> games being included in that category). So I wasn't really replying just to
> the original poster, it was kind of a way of venting all the frustrations
> that I have built up over the last few years. Yeah, I got a little carried
> away. But I feel better now :-)
Because you came out of the closet?
Dorian Alan
> If the marketing for Tomb Raider wasn't so brazenly deliberate and
> false, then I'd have no problems, but I happen to think the whole
> Lara/sex symbol thing to be really sad. She's a damn
> computer-generated image for pity's sake! A badly drawn one at that!
The Link/sex symbol thing is even sadder. He's a damn computer-generated
elf for pity's sake! You can't have sex with him or Mario or Banjo.
Dorian Alan
> Well no ,but from a personal standpoint, let me point out the
> following:-
>
> a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't like breasts.
> b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
> that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs a
> girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
Mario, Link and Banjo doesn't exist either. Playing and staring at them is
pretty sad and suggests that you should come of the closet already.
Logan
>Phoenix Gamma wrote:
>
>> Well no ,but from a personal standpoint, let me point out the
>> following:-
>>
>> a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
>
>That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't like breasts.
>
>> b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
>> that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs a
>> girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
>
Chances are if your staring at a roomful of naked women, you're
probably looking at alot of fake tits.
--Logan
Brandon Fisher
Dorian Alan wrote in message <3642205B...@huh.com>...
>Mario, Link and Banjo doesn't exist either. Playing and staring at them is
>pretty sad and suggests that you should come of the closet already.
Geez, if anyone is a closet homosexual, I think it would be 'ol Dorian Alan
here. I've never seen anyone so afraid of confronting their sexuality that
they lash out ,due to all of their insecurities, in a videogame newsgroup.
That has to be the most pathetic example of denial in the history of gay
men.
Given the subject of the thread, here's my prognosis - you first started
realizing you may lean the other way (not that there's anything wrong with
that) when you were a young boy (wait, I bet that wasn't that long ago),
playing the NES Zelda. You found yourself strangely attracted to the elfin
boy, but shook it off (bad choice of words, I guess).
Then came Zelda II and the Super NES came a little later. The thoughts came
back. You started to like New Kids on the Block a little TOO much.
Now, after all these years, it's back. And you have to confront your
attraction to a male videogame character again. In denial, you try and bury
yourself in Lara Croft (because, a REAL person would be out of the
question). It's not working. And the New Kids on the Block have been
replaced by the Backstreet Boys. All the temptation is driving you crazy.
To prove to yourself and the rest of the world that you are, indeed, NOT a
homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that), you come up with an
idea. Start a thread in an internet newsgroup, with the theme being gay
videogames, followed by responses accusing everyone else in the world of
being gay.
I just outed you. Be GLAAD.
Marcus Gray
<sup...@noway.usa.net> writes
>On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:58:55 +0000, Marcus Gray
><mar...@cyberart.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>#Don't come over all P.C. with Tomb Raider pal. There is nothing wrong
>#with having a sexy lead character in video games, male or female.
>
>You obviously didn't read his post properly. He never said that lead
>female characters in games shouldn't be allowed, he said that Lara
>Croft and the hype surrounding her has cheapened gaming to stultefying
>proportions. He also cited several other lead female characters in
>games that were much better so that's your opening statement
>completely and utterly deflated there.
>
>BTW, I for one happen to agree with him on the Tomb Raider thing.
>Sorry.
>
>
># It's
>#not her fault there are so many bad third person platformer clones,
>#that's because it is a very difficult and new genre to do well.
>
>What ever gave you the idea that ANYBODY was putting any "blame" on a
>make-believe computer-generated character?
>
next time.
>Hint: Heavy MJ sessions and newsgroup postings don't mix. As your
>scrappy, poorly thought out post attests.
Grow up. It's what's called an opinion.
>
>#If you
>#have a hang up with the marketing and media image of the game, then
>#fine, but this has very little to do with game itself. (I like Tomb
>#Raider, you don't, agreed?)
>
>He never said he had a problem with Tomb Raider and certainly never
>suggested anything along the lines of having a "hang-up". You are
>making all of this up, guy!
Hang up, problem, dislike ...whatever.
>
>I repeat: The original poster's bone of contention was the fact that
>Lara Croft was an overrated entity used to sell overrated games. As I
>said, I agree. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is female
>or scantily clad, it's just the concept, the idea, the campaign... the
>whole Lara Croft thing is unbelievably bogus.
True, she may well be a overrated entity. But to say that Tomb Raider is
and overrated game is a matter of opinion. I'm afraid in a historical
context Tomb Raider will be remembered as one of the best games of the
Ninties. If you don't agree with that, then fine.
>I suspect that you probably think think that a scanty Lara on the from
>of a mag with "Play me" written on it is ever-so-cool in your
>adolescent mind, but that kind of cheap advertising just makes me
>think "Oh please.."
Adolescent mind..why thank you, it's been a while since I've been an
adolescent anything!
The ADVERTISING and MARKETING "doesn't matter" IF...and you may not
believe this ..IF some people LIKE the game.
Um..I don't know about the US but back here in brit land she appeared on
the cover of the FACE mag (hardly bogus), oh and U2 used her while on
tour. Nah, that's bogus, I'd much rather they used Pac Man. Any video
game character that heightens public awareness to the pastime is a good
thing. Once again, none of the above matters if the game is a good one.
>
>Again, let me point out, it has nothing to do with being "PC" or how
>she is or isn't dressed. It's just that the whole thing is an obvious
>ploy to rope in dumb adolescents and idiot casual gamers who jump on
>the Tomb Raider/Playstation bandwagon not because they care for games,
>but because the see "Some bird with big tits" and think it's "cool".
>
I sadly didn't purchase said game for aforementioned "big tits". If
99.9% of PSX owners bought the game for that reason and that reason only
then fine, but it doesn't stop me from liking Tomb Raider as a game.
Some people must have fragile sensibilities.
>I don't know about you, but I for one like my gaming without
>pretentions. Sorry if you don't.
Pretensions!!? What pretensions? Lara croft could be a Dump Truck, the
game would be just as good.
>
>
>#Anyway, that's wrong with some of you people? I have problems
>equating
>#ones sexuality to videogaming. I like games regardless of which
>system
>#they come from. Cute and fluffy or hardcore and cyberpunk, whatever,
>if
>#the game is good, the game is good.
>
>Well, it's nice to know that you did comprehend at least part of the
>original post correctly...
>
Thanks.
>
>-me
>
>"Don't be fooled by the sunshine..."
>
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>
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Skye
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36421F1C...@huh.com>...
Actually, they're usually on their tip toes trying to see above the
countertop when they're mom is buying them a game.
Boo hiss cheapshot
Skye
Joseph M Leonard
: a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
Maybe, but I don't think it has bothered many people.
: b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
: that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs a
: girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
Oh jeezus, spare me. I'm sorry those chicks in DoA are fucking hot, real
or not. It's entertainment, loosen up. Btw, my girlfriend is adorable. ;)
: c) I prefer smaller breasted women anyway! :)
Yeah, not important to me either.... though it doesn't hurt ;)
--
Joe
Remy
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36421F9B...@huh.com>...
Err...fortunately no one ever *wanted* to have sex with Link, Mario, or
Banjo. Except you, evidently. Methinks that you have some *serious* issues
that need to be worked out as soon as possible (hmm...a polygon fetish,I
wonder what Freud would say). You need help. I don't quite know how to ask
this question, but...were you ever abused by a video game character when you
were a child? Perhaps in a...sexual context? Were you perhaps abducted by
the aliens in 'Space Invaders' and made to participate in unusual sexual
practices? ( I think I see a topic for the next 'Jerry Springer' episode
here). Let's work together and maybe we can get to the root of your problem.
kwarlord
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36421E7B...@huh.com>...
HELLO, MCFLY?!?! Metroid already has two sequels. one for the Gameboy and
another for the SNES.
>"Play Me"? It just means to play Tomb Raider.
>
nobody can play Tomb Raider because the controls are terrible.
Magus
Who would even think of posting a message about people having sex with video
game characters? Keep your filth to yourself.
~Magus
Joshua S Redford
> Phoenix Gamma (sup...@noway.usa.net) wrote:
> : c) I prefer smaller breasted women anyway! :)
>
> Yeah, not important to me either.... though it doesn't hurt ;)
Oh, I'll throw my 2 cents in here. I prefer smaller breasted women as
well. In fact, I'm absolutely repulsed by women that have large jugs, and
if they're fake eeeeww, and if the nipple is larger than a hand (which I
saw on a shock video episode on HBO) *puke*.
Josh Redford
Remy
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36421E7B...@huh.com>...
>Remy wrote:
>
>> On the other hand, those of us who are
>> secure in our manhood can play any game we like, since we don't rely on
our
>> games to define our masculinity. Oh, and if you want to see a strong
female
>> lead character in a video game, don't look to Lara Croft, she's nothing
more
>> than a tool that Eidos uses to get horny, sexually immature young boys to
>> play their games. If you want strong female lead characters, look to
>> characters like Samus Aran (Metroid) or Jill Valentine and Claire
Redfield
>> (Resident Evil and RE 2, respectively), none of whom, to my knowledge,
have
>> ever appeared on the cover of PSXtreme, in a skimpy outfit, lying on the
>> floor in a provocative position with the caption "Play Me" plastered
>> underneath them.
>
>LOL! Samus Aran? Yeah, finish Metroid faster, faster, faster.. and you get
to
>see her in less and less clothing. Looks like you never finished it.
I am well aware of the ending in Super Metroid. I saw all three, and
finishing it in under three hours to get the best ending was a tight squeeze
(finished in 2 hours, 53 minutes, I believe. After I beat the water level I
checked my time and realized I only had 40 minutes left to make the three
hour deadline. You've never seen *anybody* fly through Norfair the way I did
that last time). That brief glimpse of Samus without her armor can *hardly*
be compared to the amount of T&A and sexual innuendo that Lara Croft has
been featured in. Just showing a little bit of skin, in a tasteful manner,
doesn't atomatically equal exploitation. However, when the showing of skin
is the sole selling point of a game, well, draw your own conclusions.
As
>evidenced by the absence of a Metroid sequel, it was never really popular
>because N64 owners are gay.
Actually the entire Metroid series has been *extremely* popular. The current
absence of a Metroid sequel is probably due to the fact that, of all
Nintendo's classic series, Metroid is the most difficult one to adapt to a
3D environment, so it's going to take a while longer. I have no doubt that
an N64 Metroid *will* eventually appear, and when it does, it will be
recieved by all us "gay" N64 owners with absolut glee and euphoria.
>
>"Play Me"? It just means to play Tomb Raider.
>
Uh...shyeah, riiiiighht <said with sarcastic sneer>. There was *no* double
meaning there at *all*. I must have just *imagined* it. I should have
realized that Eidos would *never* rely on SEX to sell there video games. Why
am I arguing with a troll? Go away!
Remy
Magus wrote in message ...
Did you even *read* the post I was responding to? *I* wasn't the one who
brought it up. I was responding in a sarcastic manner to the idiot who
stared this whole thread. Tell *him* to keep *his* filth to himself.
Mr. Nintendo
> I am well aware of the ending in Super Metroid. I saw all three, and
> finishing it in under three hours to get the best ending was a tight squeeze
> (finished in 2 hours, 53 minutes, I believe. After I beat the water level I
> checked my time and realized I only had 40 minutes left to make the three
> hour deadline. You've never seen *anybody* fly through Norfair the way I did
> that last time).
Hey, that's not a bad time... had you picked up all the items?
I've done 100% in 2:17... it involves running *all the time* and knowing
exactly what can be done when, and the fastest time to do it. But it's a
great challenge...
> Actually the entire Metroid series has been *extremely* popular. The current
> absence of a Metroid sequel is probably due to the fact that, of all
> Nintendo's classic series, Metroid is the most difficult one to adapt to a
> 3D environment, so it's going to take a while longer. I have no doubt that
> an N64 Metroid *will* eventually appear, and when it does, it will be
> recieved by all us "gay" N64 owners with absolut glee and euphoria.
Why oh why does it have to be 3D? Why can't they leave at least *one* game
the way it was? The game *rocked* in 2D, so why change it?
Thanatos.
Will not read discs, tried 5 CDs, including
demo disc, audio tape, 3 games.
- Note attached to my PlayStation, which is
on its way to Sony's Brisbane repair centre.
Phoenix Gamma
wrote:
#Actually, they're usually on their tip toes trying to see above the
#countertop when they're mom is buying them a game.
#
#Boo hiss cheapshot
#
Explains a lot about your level of maturity...
You *did* say you owned an N64 after all...
Phoenix Gamma
<mar...@cyberart.demon.co.uk> wrote:
#>Hint: Heavy MJ sessions and newsgroup postings don't mix. As your
#>scrappy, poorly thought out post attests.
#
#Grow up. It's what's called an opinion.
I'll quote you on that one later. Just you wait.
#
#Hang up, problem, dislike ...whatever.
There are different connotations to all of those words, so its not
just a simple case of "whatever", but I'm not here to argue
semantics...
#
#True, she may well be a overrated entity. But to say that Tomb Raider
is
#and overrated game is a matter of opinion.
Yeah, so?
"Grow up, it's what's called an opinion".
#I'm afraid in a historical
#context Tomb Raider will be remembered as one of the best games of
the
#Ninties. If you don't agree with that, then fine.
I do agree. I just happen to think that there was nothing special
about the games. They were OK, but certainly not as great as some
proponents of the game like to make out. I've heard it being
described as "The best video game of all time...". I mean, come on!
It wasn't *that* good at all!
The only reason it'll go down in history is not because there's
anything special about the game (because there isn't), it'll be
because the game had some chick in it that everybody fancied and
that's just pathetic.
#Adolescent mind..why thank you, it's been a while since I've been an
#adolescent anything!
Great.
#The ADVERTISING and MARKETING "doesn't matter" IF...and you may not
#believe this ..IF some people LIKE the game.
#
Of course not, but I was merely expressing my opinion. Yes, opinion?
Remember that word? Remember telling me to "grow up" when you
expressed yours?
Yes, as you say, if you're a fan then you won't care for all the hype,
but if you're not, then it'll annoy you somewhat. I am not a fan,
therefore all the hype annoyed me. Simple as that really.
#Um..I don't know about the US but back here in brit land she appeared
on
#the cover of the FACE mag (hardly bogus), oh and U2 used her while on
#tour. Nah, that's bogus, I'd much rather they used Pac Man. Any video
#game character that heightens public awareness to the pastime is a
good
#thing. Once again, none of the above matters if the game is a good
one.
I am actually from the UK myself. Don't let the email addres fool
you.
Anyway, I know she appeared on the cover of The Face, but why isn't
that bogus? Because The Face is considered "fashionable"? Crap.
It's the fact that the only reason she was there was because she was
"some bird with big tits in a computer game". If it were any other
video game character, its unlikely they would've made their way onto
the cover of an ever-so-fashionable magazing as The Face. That is all
part of the hype, and the fact that video gaming has now been invaded
by idiot casual gamers who now consider gaming to be "cool" just
because there's a game with a large-breasted main character in it who
is in your face wherever the hell you go.
Years ago, these same casual "gamers" would be the type to cite gaming
as being "sad" or "geeky", but hey now it's cool 'cos Lara's here and
she's a "babe". Or something.
I'm sorry but the whole thing is really false and makes me sick. This
is not what gaming is about. Gaming isn't about image. It isn't a
fashion accessory.
Oh, and you don't think the fact that a Pop/Rock band used a computer
game character -who a lot of rather sad people happen to "fancy"-
whilst on their tour isn't bogus? Er.. OK, whatever. Doesn't sound
like cashing in or jumping on the Lara bandwagon at all, does it?
U2: "Hey kids, we're still fresh and relevant and stuff, look who
we've got for you today... yeaahh, that Playstation Babe Lara Croft,
boy we're like soo cool!"
#
#Pretensions!!? What pretensions? Lara croft could be a Dump Truck,
the
#game would be just as good.
Yes but if Lara were a dump truck, she wouldn't be in The Face and U2
wouldn't have "used" her on their world tour. That proves that these
parties have no interest in gaming at all, just the "glamourous" image
of one of its many facets. Said facet being a big breasted aventurer.
If that isn't fake or bogus then I don't know what is.
Phoenix Gamma
#
#The Link/sex symbol thing is even sadder. He's a damn
computer-generated
#elf for pity's sake! You can't have sex with him or Mario or Banjo.
#
You can't have sex with Lara either. Furtheremore please bear in
mind:-
- People do not fantatsize about Link or Mario.
- Link or Mario do not appear on the front of trendy magazines to try
and make gaming look "cool".
- People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
- Your point is invalid.
That is all.
Phoenix Gamma
#Err...fortunately no one ever *wanted* to have sex with Link, Mario,
or
#Banjo. Except you, evidently. Methinks that you have some *serious*
issues
#that need to be worked out as soon as possible (hmm...a polygon
fetish,I
#wonder what Freud would say). You need help. I don't quite know how
to ask
#this question, but...were you ever abused by a video game character
when you
#were a child? Perhaps in a...sexual context? Were you perhaps
abducted by
#the aliens in 'Space Invaders' and made to participate in unusual
sexual
#practices? ( I think I see a topic for the next 'Jerry Springer'
episode
#here). Let's work together and maybe we can get to the root of your
problem.
#
Maybe it wasn't a childhood thing. Maybe it was quite recent. Or
maybe Dorian is a child. Whatever. It's irrelevant. Anyway, picture
this scene:-
Dorian sitting in his bedroom lying on his bed.
The door slowly creeks open.
His Dad is standing there dressed up like a certain Italian plumber.
"It's a-me Mario!" he exclaims. Dorian knows exactly what this means
and what's about to follow. But he daren't try to escape from Daddy,
because Daddy will catch chim. Daddy just wants to express his love
for little Dorian.
Use your imagination.
I shall say no more other than maybe the above scenario has warped our
Dorian's sense of reality in the sexual realm.
Phoenix Gamma
#
#LOL! Samus Aran? Yeah, finish Metroid faster, faster, faster.. and
you get to
#see her in less and less clothing. Looks like you never finished it.
As
#evidenced by the absence of a Metroid sequel, it was never really
popular
#because N64 owners are gay.
#
Then you must like hanging out with "gays" then, since you're here.
Too young to get into a real gay club IRL, huh?
Phoenix Gamma
#
#That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't know a women's nipples
hardens
#when she's aroused.
#
Aw, someone at school just taught you a new thing about the female
anatomy, did they?
Kids today! :P
Phoenix Gamma
#Phoenix Gamma wrote:
#
#> Well no ,but from a personal standpoint, let me point out the
#> following:-
#>
#> a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
#
#That's cause you're a gay N64 owner and don't like breasts.
Is that why I stated that I preferred smaller breasts in the rest of
the post that you snipped, you little idiot?
#> b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
#> that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs
a
#> girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
#
#Mario, Link and Banjo doesn't exist either. Playing and staring at
them is
#pretty sad and suggests that you should come of the closet already.
I'm not in any closet, friend and I'm certainly not gay. You, on the
other hand have a serious fixation with homosexuality and make believe
polygon people. If anyone is in need of stepping from closets, it is,
indeed yourself.
Now there's a good boy. We'll understand if you like men. You don't
have to hide ot project your feelings onto us. Even if the "men" you
like don't really exist and one of the happens to be an animal.
Phoenix Gamma
#
#Chances are if your staring at a roomful of naked women, you're
#probably looking at alot of fake tits.
#
If...
Phoenix Gamma
Leonard) wrote:
#Phoenix Gamma (sup...@noway.usa.net) wrote:
#: a) Lara's tits are ill-proportioned and badly drawn.
#
#Maybe, but I don't think it has bothered many people.
It was an observation.
#: b) Lara doesn't exist so staring at a pair of fake tits on a woman
#: that isn't even real is pretty sad and suggests that someone needs
a
#: girlfriend or the attentions of a real woman soon.
#
#Oh jeezus, spare me. I'm sorry those chicks in DoA are fucking hot,
real
#or not. It's entertainment, loosen up. Btw, my girlfriend is
adorable. ;)
I wasn't talking about DoA, I was talking about Lara Croft and Tomb
Raider. There are a lot of males with a disturbing fixation w/Lara
which goes far beyond thinking a female character in a game looks
pretty "hot", are there not?
#: c) I prefer smaller breasted women anyway! :)
#
#Yeah, not important to me either.... though it doesn't hurt ;)
#
Phoenix Gamma
#
#I'd rather stare at her breasts than Mario's italian sausage.
#
No you wouldn't.
Phoenix Gamma
#The N64 perverts like to look at and play with men, elves and animals
#rather than women.
#
What about female N64 owners?
Skye
Phoenix Gamma wrote in message <3642d564...@news.intra.bt.com>...
>On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:47:06 -0500, "Skye" <ken...@nospam.netscape.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>#Actually, they're usually on their tip toes trying to see above the
>#countertop when they're mom is buying them a game.
>#
>#Boo hiss cheapshot
>#
>
>Explains a lot about your level of maturity...
>
>You *did* say you owned an N64 after all...
>
>
>-me
There's always at least one idiot in the bunch that can't take a joke. And
yeah, I do own an N64...with 2 games (Blitz and Hangtime). Waiting for
Zelda.
Skye
Joshua S Redford
find these types of flames (although well deserved) very offensive.
Considering that I want to counsel children, specializing in victims of
child abuse, I don't really find any humor in making light of it. These
things actually happen to children (even the "daddy" thing, minus the
Mario costume) and to use these scenarios in the interest of
humor.....repulsive. Sorry about the rant, but it's just so aggravating.
I could go on, but I'll leave it at that. Now, I can't stop either of you
from posting this type of "humor", but I'm asking you...please don't make
these sorts of comments anymore. If you only saw how devestated these
children are/were after this, you would never be able to make fun of it
again (at least I hope). Gee, first complaining about discrimination,
then stealing, now child abuse.....sorry to come off as the preacher man.
Joshua S Redford
red...@acsu.buffalo.edu
Joshua S Redford
> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:56:32 -0500, Dorian Alan <DA...@huh.com> wrote:
>
>
> #The N64 perverts like to look at and play with men, elves and animals
> #rather than women.
> #
If there were female elves around, I would probably "play" with them
simply because I would be curious:)
>
>
> What about female N64 owners?
They're gay too. But they utilize the WWF RAW game to make their ideal
lady friends:)
Josh Redford
Dorian Alan
> You can't have sex with Lara either. Furtheremore please bear in
> mind:-
>
> - People do not fantatsize about Link or Mario.
- People do not fantasize about Lara Croft, that's just a perverted
misconception from gay N64 owners who have no clue what straight people
fantasize about. Just because we like Tomb Raider does not mean we like it
because of Lara Croft.
> - Link or Mario do not appear on the front of trendy magazines to try
> and make gaming look "cool".
- Oh no? These days Link is doing a full spread on almost every gaming
magazine cover.
> - People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
- N64 owners do. The only reason they play those games is to get turned
on.
> - Your point is invalid.
- So are yours.
Phoenix Gamma
wrote:
#There's always at least one idiot in the bunch that can't take a
joke.
Oh, it was a joke, was it? What? You actually thought you were
capable of saying something funny and amusing (intentionally that is)?
Don't flatter yourself, baby.
# And
#yeah, I do own an N64...with 2 games (Blitz and Hangtime). Waiting
for
#Zelda.
Good for you, troll. Now go away and play in on a railway line.
That's it.
Phoenix Gamma
<red...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
#I wasn't going to say anything before but now I must. I can't help
but
#find these types of flames (although well deserved) very offensive.
#Considering that I want to counsel children, specializing in victims
of
#child abuse, I don't really find any humor in making light of it.
These
#things actually happen to children (even the "daddy" thing, minus the
#Mario costume) and to use these scenarios in the interest of
#humor.....repulsive. Sorry about the rant, but it's just so
aggravating.
#I could go on, but I'll leave it at that. Now, I can't stop either
of you
#from posting this type of "humor", but I'm asking you...please don't
make
#these sorts of comments anymore. If you only saw how devestated
these
#children are/were after this, you would never be able to make fun of
it
#again (at least I hope). Gee, first complaining about
discrimination,
#then stealing, now child abuse.....sorry to come off as the preacher
man.
#
I agree with you 100% Joshua, and I realise my post was overly
facetious so for that I do apologize. I genuinely wasn't trying to
offend anybody.
Phoenix Gamma
#- People do not fantasize about Lara Croft, that's just a perverted
#misconception from gay N64 owners who have no clue what straight
people
#fantasize about. Just because we like Tomb Raider does not mean we
like it
#because of Lara Croft.
Oh, so all the adolescent teens who go on about her body etc including
lots of the comments you get in mags about Lara being a "sex symbol"
are all cleverly fabricated lies are they?
Oh, and I also happen to own a PSX so that's punctured your little
theory somewhat.
According to your "logic", that'd make me bi, wouldn't it?
#- Oh no? These days Link is doing a full spread on almost every
gaming
#magazine cover.
So? Zelda is a eagerly awaited game. It's been due for well over 2
years now. People are rexcited about it. It's hardly likely to be
ignored by the gaming press, is it? When FFVII came out, that was on
mags everywhere. Did you used to fantasize about Cloud and his big
sword?
#- N64 owners do. The only reason they play those games is to get
turned
#on.
I'll ignore that one. You can't reason with idiots. I know you're
jsut trying to get a rise out of people. I won't play your games,
child.
#> - Your point is invalid.
#
#- So are yours.
Hmm...
Marcus Gray
<sup...@noway.usa.net> writes
>
<sNip>
OK...I think we'll agree to disagree without being further
condescending.
But..
Consider this- The "EDGE" gave both Tomb Raider 1 & 2 a Nine out of Ten.
What gives? Surely EDGE merit "Big tits" over gameplay!!
I'll leave you with this quote from E40:
"Even though the two games were created thousands of miles apart. Core
Design has managed to create an experience more than slightly akin to -
and featuring many feature of what many see as the best game of all
time. If SM64 was still six months away, Tomb Raider would be
justifiably hailed as one of the finest videogame experiences ever"
Thank you and good night.
--
Marcus Gray
Nick Ferguson
>simply because I would be curious:)
Heh heh :-)
>> What about female N64 owners?
>
>They're gay too. But they utilize the WWF RAW game to make their ideal
>lady friends:)
Wow. All this talk of maturity and nobody seems to have stopped to
consider the fact that, hey, some people on this ng might be gay and you
might be offending them. Or are we just using "gay" as that all-purpose
offensive term, not *really* meaning it as such, which makes it all OK?
Sorry, but insulting people by calling them "gay" just seems so
adolescent. :-(
If not liking TR makes you "gay", well... whatever, guys. I think,
though, that the idea of fantasizing over Lara is only marginally worse
than fantasizing over, say, porn or something which is really just as
desperate and "unreal" and sad. I like the TR games, but I'm a bit
worried that they are running out of ideas. I mean, basically they are
Prince of Persia in 3D and without radically changing the
control/playing style there's only so much you can do with that.
Or maybe I'm just terribly unimaginative and would make a terrible games
designer. Maybe TR3 will blow my mind with its revolutionary
"differentness". Whichever, I'll prob. still buy it. The hi-rez mode is
quite neat :-)
Nick F
PS All those N64 owners who think the console is "gay" - I have to say
I'm perfectly happy that you believe that and you don't play N64 games.
You most likely don't deserve them. I don't give a crap if you like what
I like or not, so stop clogging the ngs with this banal drivel. Oh well,
that'll be lost in a sea of peurile posts, then...
Joe Ottoson
> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:58:52 -0500, Dorian Alan <DA...@huh.com> wrote:
>
> #
> #The Link/sex symbol thing is even sadder. He's a damn
> computer-generated
> #elf for pity's sake! You can't have sex with him or Mario or Banjo.
> #
>
> You can't have sex with Lara either. Furtheremore please bear in
> mind:-
>
> - People do not fantatsize about Link or Mario.
>
> - Link or Mario do not appear on the front of trendy magazines to try
> and make gaming look "cool".
>
> - People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
>
> - Your point is invalid.
>
Psst... The proper term for the above Link related post is "joke". A
strange and mystical concept I realize, but geeze!
Skye
Phoenix Gamma wrote in message <36430b43...@news.intra.bt.com>...
>On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0500, "Skye" <ken...@nospam.netscape.net>
>wrote:
>
>#There's always at least one idiot in the bunch that can't take a
>joke.
>
>Oh, it was a joke, was it? What? You actually thought you were
>capable of saying something funny and amusing (intentionally that is)?
>
>Don't flatter yourself, baby.
>
># And
>#yeah, I do own an N64...with 2 games (Blitz and Hangtime). Waiting
>for
>#Zelda.
>
>Good for you, troll. Now go away and play in on a railway line.
>That's it.
Ooooooooo the ole "troll" put down. Whatever shall I do? Oh I know, I'll go
play my color gameboy until Zelda comes out.
Skye
DaJoker711
IF YOU DID you would play games like Turok 1, Turok 2, QUAKE, DOOM, DARK RIFT,
BODY HARVEST, COMMAND AND CONQUER, GOLDENEYE, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, KNIFE EDGE,
KNIGHTMARE CREATURES, FIGHTING FORCE 2 64 EDITION,WCW/NWO REVENGE, WCW/NWO
WORLD TOUR, WARZONE, and HUMUNGEUS AMOUNTS MORE. By the way ZELDA got a 6
out of 5 in SPIN magazine and they said "the best game of all time?" And turok
2 got a 5 out of 5.... WHAT DID TOMB RAIDER GET??? a 3 out of 5...
You incompetent......
Hahahahahahahha
kwarlord
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36430AB6...@huh.com>...
>Phoenix Gamma wrote:
>
>> You can't have sex with Lara either. Furtheremore please bear in
>> mind:-
>>
>> - People do not fantatsize about Link or Mario.
>
>
>
>> - Link or Mario do not appear on the front of trendy magazines to try
>> and make gaming look "cool".
>
>
>> - People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
>
>
>> - Your point is invalid.
>
>
>
IWANT THOSS NUDE CODEZ FOR TOMB RAIDER DOOD!
Remy
Dorian Alan wrote in message <36430AB6...@huh.com>...
>Phoenix Gamma wrote:
>
>> You can't have sex with Lara either. Furtheremore please bear in
>> mind:-
>>
>> - People do not fantatsize about Link or Mario.
>
>- People do not fantasize about Lara Croft, that's just a perverted
>misconception from gay N64 owners who have no clue what straight people
>fantasize about. Just because we like Tomb Raider does not mean we like it
>because of Lara Croft.
>
OK, here's an easy test. Think of tomb Raider. Now, instead of Lara Croft,
put a different character in her place, like, say, a robot or a cute furry
animal. Now, does the game still sound appealing to you, even without Lara
Croft? If yes, than you genuinly like the Tomb Raider game, and I have no
quarrel with you. Everyone's got different tastes, that's what makes life
interesting. However, if the above scenario takes all the appeal out of the
game for you, then you are playing Tomb Raider because you like staring at
Lara's polygonal ass, and you need to seek proffesional help.
>
>> - Link or Mario do not appear on the front of trendy magazines to try
>> and make gaming look "cool".
>
>- Oh no? These days Link is doing a full spread on almost every gaming
>magazine cover.
>
Um, exactly. *GAMING* magazines, you idiot. *NOT* trendy "pop culture"
magazines.
>> - People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
>
>- N64 owners do. The only reason they play those games is to get turned
>on.
Define "turned on." I *do* get what could be described as a sort of "turn
on" when I play a really well designed game, but there's nothing sexual
about it. It's that subtle magic of feeling like you're immersed in this
fantasy world, *that's* why I play video games. And *that's* why I love
games from Nintendo, no one captures that magic quite like Miyamoto, he is,
quite simply, the master.
>
>> - Your point is invalid.
>
>- So are yours.
>
>
You, sir, have *no* point. You are simply a troll, a waste of bandwidth. And
I am frankly tired of reading your inane posts. Welcome to my killfile. Good
day.
--
Jeremy Mathewson "Remy"
jer...@ici.net
"Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!"
-Yogurt, the Wise
Martin Leduc
>It's been a known fact that N64 owners are gay. You all like to play
>cute games like Banjo and Yoshi while bashing games like Tomb Raider
>simply because the main character is a woman. Now you are all
>anticipating the arrival of the gayest N64 game of all, Zelda 64. You
>all can't wait to play the game with that delicate little elf with the
>big earrings. Why's this game even called Zelda? Shouldn't it be called
>Link? Maybe Link secretly wants to become Zelda? You N64 drones are
>welcome to this gay game. Coming soon, another gay game, Conkers...
The guy's got a point people, think about it:
Donkey and Diddy.
Even in the monkey world, if I see a big, developed "ape" of a guy
hangin around with a little tike who likes baseball, I get worried.
Here's an experiment, approach any twelve year old girl that's walking
with her daddy, and ask her if she wants to play with either your Diddy
or your Donkey, see what happens.
Mario and Luigi
"Brothers" Even if you do buy that, that still doesn't rule out the fact
that Luigi's as festive as a modern jazz class. If he was any kind of a
man he'd have swiped the princess peach from underneath Mario's nose
before the SNES came out. And what's the deal with making their noses so
big?
Zelda:
Link goes through hell and Harlem to save a girl, then he just turns his
back on her and lets her get captured again.
"Well that certainly was an ordeal trying to save you...well So long,
I've got to go grab something big and pointy now."
If "ELFS" and "PRINCESS'" and "GIANT PIGS" aren't enough to convince you
of the freaky sexual overtones in this game, then just visit their site:
http://www.zelda.com
Even their weak attempts at heterosexual team-ups are kind of eerie:
Diddy and Dixie, I'm sure her name had something to do with his primary
atraction to her. But even after him and "Dix" got together, he was still
too warped from DKC, and still too obsessed with bannanas, to pay any
more attention to her.
Banjo and Kazooie: Okay, a bird and a bear together requires an open
mind to begin with. But a bear that carries his bird around on his back
in a napsack and doesn't let in out except to torture it (carry me on
your back KAZOOIE, hop on and down with me on your back little bird, fly
around carrying me Kazooie, higher kazooie, higher!) Also the scenario I
used with the names "Donkey" and "Diddy" also apply here.
Steve McDevitt
Lara Croft.
You are a fool. You have no life. You are a waste of flesh...
Whew, with that out of the way may I say this: If pervets like you don't
play Tomb Raider for Lara Croft, then what *do* you play it for? I can
tell you it's not the play control! Fuck, is the play control lousy in
that game! AND, if you don't play it for Lara, then why oh why did they
make a Lara Croft calander (with pictures of her in a bikini)!? Once
again, you are a fool... but I think most of the people on this NG
already knew that.
Steve McDevitt
kwarlord
Steve McDevitt wrote in message
<18671-36...@newsd-111.bryant.webtv.net>...
>Just because we like Tomb Raider does not mean we like it because of
Lara Croft.
(in case you didn't relize it, I didn't write what Steve tried to qoute. It
was Dorian)
Ken Small
Steve McDevitt <mak...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>Just because we like Tomb Raider does not mean we like it because of
>Lara Croft.
>You are a fool. You have no life. You are a waste of flesh...
>Whew, with that out of the way may I say this: If pervets like you don't
>play Tomb Raider for Lara Croft, then what *do* you play it for? I can
>tell you it's not the play control! Fuck, is the play control lousy in
>that game! AND, if you don't play it for Lara, then why oh why did they
>make a Lara Croft calander (with pictures of her in a bikini)!? Once
>again, you are a fool... but I think most of the people on this NG
>already knew that.
The poster may be a fool, but the controls are fine for the way the
game was designed. I don't play TR for Lara (I mean, I'm watching her
back the whole time, hardly exciting), but clearly it's an easy
marketing gimmick. Underneath that is a game that has cool 3d
environments and puzzles.
I bet they sold a lot less of those calendars than they did copies of
TR games.
Just accept that some people actually like the *game* and get your head
out of you ass. I know, I don't like a game, I'll insult the people
who do. Charming. (That goes double for the bozo that started this
thead. What a moron, clearing insecure about his manhood to have to
insult Zelda fans.)
Now that I've made enemies of everybody here, I'll end my rant.
--
Ken Small
"I used to get A's is psychology class, but it didn't make my life okay."
-- Loud Family
Arkham
>> People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
Idiot. Of course they are. How can you not watch Banjo without fantasing?
Without thinking about hugging that great big lovable bear and then doing it
while Kazooie pecks away at -
'Cuse me...I gotta grab some tissues and get back to my game.
(By the way, Mario can use his plunger on me anyday.)
Remy
Arkham wrote in message <4Rg12.3$CH3....@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net>...
>
>>> People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
>
>Idiot. Of course they are. How can you not watch Banjo without fantasing?
>Without thinking about hugging that great big lovable bear and then doing
it
>while Kazooie pecks away at -
>
>'Cuse me...I gotta grab some tissues and get back to my game.
Eewww...
>
>(By the way, Mario can use his plunger on me anyday.)
>
>
LOL. That was really sick. Funny as hell...but sick. :-)
kwarlord
Arkham wrote in message <4Rg12.3$CH3....@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net>...
>
>>> People do not consider Link, Mario or Banjo to be sex symbols.
>
>Idiot. Of course they are. How can you not watch Banjo without fantasing?
>Without thinking about hugging that great big lovable bear and then doing
it
>while Kazooie pecks away at -
>
>'Cuse me...I gotta grab some tissues and get back to my game.
>
>
>
>
you're not helping...
:-)
Joshua S Redford
> >If there were female elves around, I would probably "play" with them
> >simply because I would be curious:)
>
>
> Heh heh :-)
>
> >> What about female N64 owners?
> >
> >They're gay too. But they utilize the WWF RAW game to make their ideal
> >lady friends:)
>
>
> Wow. All this talk of maturity and nobody seems to have stopped to
> consider the fact that, hey, some people on this ng might be gay and you
> might be offending them.
I was thinking about this over the weekend. I have quite a few gay
friends and from what I gathered, they joke about their sexuality in a
similar manner, much like I do about my being a raised in a rural region.
Or are we just using "gay" as that all-purpose
> offensive term, not *really* meaning it as such, which makes it all OK?
> Sorry, but insulting people by calling them "gay" just seems so
> adolescent. :-(
You're right. Personally, I have a bad habit of calling everything
(school policies, schoolwork, etc.) as gay. However, in the interest of
not offending anybody, I'll try to avoid gay jokes in the future.
> If not liking TR makes you "gay", well... whatever, guys. I think,
> though, that the idea of fantasizing over Lara is only marginally worse
> than fantasizing over, say, porn or something which is really just as
> desperate and "unreal" and sad.
Hmmmm, I have to disagree. While pornography depicting women enjoying
being dominated/raped/bound, etc. is wrong, it is wrong to label all
pornography as corrupt. In some instances, I have read that it can
actually enhance people's relationships.
Josh Redford