WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO WATCH DVD MOVIES ON YOUR GAME CONSOLE???
Dean Siren
> sometimes just cuz the Saturn has some nice features =P... but by and
> large, it's a nice "extra", but can in no way replace a real CD player.
> That's what my Discman is for. That's what my stereo is for.
Most people don't use it as a CD player because it's less convenient than using
a Disscman and stereo, which they probably already have, but using a
DVD-ROM-based game system to play DVD-movies should be just as convenient as
using a dedicated player, perhaps more so if you consider a tethered controller
to be more convenient than an infared remote, and most people don't own
DVD-players yet.
helava
and I believe the *sole* reason that the PSX2 may possibly
NOT play movies (same with the Dolphin) is that Sony and
Panasonic want to continue to sell DVD players at a
reasonable price. Right now, the set-top DVD boxes cost
what, ~$200+, right? About the price of a Dreamcast, if not
a little more.
Now, add a small graphics workstation to that, with a lot
more I/O hardware, and what have you got? If it plays DVD
movies, it had either better cost more than a standard DVD
player, or your DVD player sales will dry up completely.
Since (I'm pretty sure this is correct, but I might be
mistaken) Sony Computer Entertainment is a different branch
of Sony than the DVD player makers, I think there'd be more
than a little internal strife at Sony if one branch
suddenly dried up completely.
The point is this: if the machine has a DVD drive simply
for storage purposes, and doesn't play movies, then sales
of the DVD players remains constant. If Sony or Nintendo
(or Sega) released a DVD-based video game console with
movie playback capabilities, the street price of standalone
DVD players would either need to fall through the floor, or
the systems would need to be priced *significantly* higher
than the standalone DVD players that will be on store
shelves at the time of the system's release.
Any holes in this argument? Sock it to me.
Yowza.
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with the Audio CD market. Audio HI-FI guys still bought CD players as Movie
fans will get a
DVD player, probably connected to a XTGT Turbo decoder and a 4m screen.
I will be playing my movie DVD on my PSX2 because it can otherwise I wouldn't
bother to buy an expensive machine (how much will they cost next year when the
PSX2 will be released?) just to play movies.
Did you read in the previous post that he didn't play audio CD because he
preferred to use the stereo? Most people only have their consoles connected to
the TV.
Rui
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> I will be playing my movie DVD on my PSX2 because it can otherwise I
wouldn't
> bother to buy an expensive machine (how much will they cost next year
when the
> PSX2 will be released?) just to play movies.
Why do you keep saying this? THE PSX2 WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY DVD
MOVIES! Sony has said this from the beginning.
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Warblade
>bother to buy an expensive machine (how much will they cost next year when the
>PSX2 will be released?) just to play movies.
>preferred to use the stereo? Most people only have their consoles connected to
>the TV.
>
>Rui
>
But you're forgetting the casual movie watcher market. I own a DVD player but
do not consider myself a videophile who would pay thousands for a high end
dvd player. I instead bought a pretty cheap dvd player that serves its
purpose. If the PSX2 was to have DVD movie capability and was out before
I bought my DVD player, I'm sure I would have just bought a PSX2.
So adding movie play capability to the PSX2 would in fact take away from the
regular DVD market.
Heck, I want a second DVD player for another room, If I could just get a PSX2
for that room, I'd do it.
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Matt Benson
> > sometimes just cuz the Saturn has some nice features =P... but by and
> > large, it's a nice "extra", but can in no way replace a real CD player.
> > That's what my Discman is for. That's what my stereo is for.
>
I think you're missing the point. The reason everyone is so upset is
because at (apparently) $499 for the PSY, NOT being able to play DVDs is a
real scam. You can get a real DVD player for that much money. I think it's
more the fact that people are going to be ripped off than actually wanting
to watch a DVD on their PSY. (And for that matter, who watches DVDs on their
computer? The only way I can see watching them is on a television. It
doesn't stop people from buying computers with DVD players, so why shouldn't
people who own the PSY and/or Dolphin also be able to watch DVDs on their
system?)
Matt
Pulp
Dreamcast were to upgrade to DVD I most certainly would use it to watch
movies, since I do not already own a DVD player. Understand?
Matt Benson wrote in message ...
Matt Benson
if Dreamcast were to upgrade to DVD I most certainly would use it to watch
movies, since I do not already own a DVD player. Understand?
>
most people) and would want to use their videogame machine to play them. And
at $499 supposively, you could just buy a DVD player rather than a videogame
system.
Matt
DELETETOE...@altavista.net
able to play movies. OR cash out $350 (for a good DVD player)? Cost is the main
issue here and I'd rather have an game/DVD console than both. Oh yeah, space is
also an issue as well since I have hardly any TV shelf space.
Pulp wrote:
> Well I would not play CD's on my PSX because I already own a stereo. BUT, if
> Dreamcast were to upgrade to DVD I most certainly would use it to watch
> movies, since I do not already own a DVD player. Understand?
>
Mark Rosson
>
> > Well I would not play CD's on my PSX because I already own a stereo. BUT,
> if Dreamcast were to upgrade to DVD I most certainly would use it to watch
> movies, since I do not already own a DVD player. Understand?
> >
> most people) and would want to use their videogame machine to play them. And
> at $499 supposively, you could just buy a DVD player rather than a videogame
> system.
> Matt
>
Actually at $499 with the prices of Dreamcast, PSX or N64, you could
have both. You could actually have two consoles (PSX,N64 at $99 ea.) and
a DVD player for $499. I really do expect the PSY to end up being closer
to $300 when the actual U.S. release price is announced. Sony losing
money at say $300-$350 for PSY would go a long way to explaing $70 per
game. I guess we shall see.
Later
Mark R.
BTW: At $99 Nintendo finally convinced me to at least think about
getting an N64
Max C. Strini
Matt Benson <Benso...@email.msn.com> wrote in article
> I think you're missing the point. The reason everyone is so upset
is
> because at (apparently) $499 for the PSY, NOT being able to play DVDs is
a
> real scam.
Where are you getting $499? The rumored price of the next-gen PS in
Japan is 45,000 yen or around $400. (Of course, besides its being just a
rumor for now, there's no guarantee that the US price won't be lower.)
Max C. Strini - s99...@jinx.umsl.edu
Michael Taylor
> I think you're missing the point. The reason everyone is so upset is
>because at (apparently) $499 for the PSY, NOT being able to play DVDs is a
>real scam. You can get a real DVD player for that much money. I think it's
>more the fact that people are going to be ripped off than actually wanting
>to watch a DVD on their PSY. (And for that matter, who watches DVDs on their
>computer? The only way I can see watching them is on a television. It
>doesn't stop people from buying computers with DVD players, so why shouldn't
>people who own the PSY and/or Dolphin also be able to watch DVDs on their
>system?)
There's no obligation here. To get a good DVD player *and* a good next
generation game console, people should not expect to pay less than $500, to
say nothing of possible upgrades to the sound system and getting a better
television. Otherwise it's not worth it. If someone buys a game console/DVD
player for, say, $300, then where did the cost of manufacture go? It's one of
the reasons Nintendo chose not to use CD-ROM in the Nintendo 64: you're paying
about $200 for the game system (chips and game technology) and $100 for the
DVD drive, licensing, etc. There's no way that the manufacturer of said system
can afford to sell the system at that price without skimping somewhere, be it
memory, decoding technology, firmware development, etc. I wouldn't doubt that
had Nintendo made the N64 with, say, a 4x CD-ROM, the system would be doing
much better today than it is (ahem RPG's ahem). I wouldn't want a DVD player
which costs $100: there has to be something cheap (read: crappy) in it
somewhere.
Integration of peripherals is a plague of a trend in the entertainment
industries which has burned many people in the past, just ask anyone who
bought a cheap Compaq with the video card built into the motherboard and who
were left out when the cool 3D cards went to AGP. DVD video is not meant for
people who want to cheap out on their decision to upgrade to it, and therefore
is not fit for integration into game consoles.