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Transomniac

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Nov 24, 2001, 12:08:40 PM11/24/01
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Hi. I've decided to sit out this round of the console wars and focus on
the systems of yesteryear. What are some good games for the NES, SNES, N64,
and GameBoy (original & color)? Before you answer, this is what I mean when
I say "good".
First and foremost, a good game should be challenging. I should *not*
be able to complete large sections of the game on my first attempt. The
hardest levels should *not* be winnable in 5 or 6 tries. They should make
me want to stop, regroup, *think* about how I can improve, and try again the
next day. I've been playing games for over 15 years so I'm looking for
something that's really difficult.
Second, I'm looking for decent gameplay. The gameplay (the rules)
should be consistent. If I place the camera a certain distance behind me,
it should stay there; not wildly rotate around me a soon I try to jump over
a chasm. I expect my attack button to work during crucial moments. If I'm
winning, I don't expect the computer to get desperate and try something
rediculous to win.
Finally, I simply want adequate graphics and sound. They don't have to
push the machine to its limits. As long as everything presented in a clean,
orderly, bug-free fashion, I'm happy.
So starting naming games. The genre doesn't matter. Import games are
OK as long as those who can't read Japanese can figure things out. Name it
even it seems like an obvious choice. Many thanks in advance...


Dane Martin

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Nov 24, 2001, 6:23:53 PM11/24/01
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Transomniac wrote:

I'll give it my best shot, although I'm probably not the best "video game
critic" out there:

Gameboy (original) -- Donkey Kong, not to be confused with the Donkey Kong Land
series. This is absolutely superb, as it features many "add-on" levels to the
original Donkey Kong arcade game. Definitely tons of replay value here.

Gameboy (color) -- Super Mario Bros. Deluxe is a platformer's dream. Features
the original NES classic, plus tons of other goodies.

NES -- Super Mario Bros. 3 is great fun. It's extremely innovative, long, and
just plain fun.

SNES -- Super Metroid, all the way. It's very entertaining -- a nice spin on
the platformer genre done right.

N64 -- I can't comment on this, as I do not like the system. Sorry!
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robotron X

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Nov 25, 2001, 1:33:01 AM11/25/01
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Dane Martin wrote:

nes - burgertime
N64 - I liked waverace and SF Rush


Steve 'Flash' Juon

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Nov 25, 2001, 11:19:21 PM11/25/01
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In article <suQL7.195266$3d2.8...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
trans...@whoever.com says...

> So starting naming games. The genre doesn't matter. Import games are
> OK as long as those who can't read Japanese can figure things out. Name it
> even it seems like an obvious choice. Many thanks in advance...

Interesting that this pops up twice in two different threads, but hey
what the hell..

NES: Most of the games with "Mario" in them are keepers - from SMB to
SMB3. Some people hate SMB2 because it's a remake of a Famicom game
from Japan, but I always thought it was very cute and challenging too!
If you must own any one Mega Man game, make it Mega Man 3.. and if you
must own any one Dougle Dragon game, make it Double Dragon II.. and if
you want some random titles I can recommend Final Fantasy, Metroid,
StarTropics, Gauntlet, Legend of Zelda, TMNT II, Metal Gear, Spy Hunter,
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, Contra (a +MUST+ have, the music sticks in your
head and the side-scrolling shooting action rules), and R.C. Pro Am
(brilliant race game featuring radio conrolled cars you can upgrade).
Do you get the feeling I like this system? I feel like I've touched
the top of the iceberg.. I didn't mention any of the games people tend
to love about this system in NES discussions like the Ninja Gaiden
series, Bionic Commando, and the Castlevania series (except avoid 2
unless you want a complete set - 1 and 3 are the most playable).

Gameboy: It goes without saying that you should own Tetris. Now
Super Mario Land is a fun game to own and play, but visually suffers
compared to any Mario game on any other system and really looks bad
compared to Mario Land 2 (looks and plays like a Gameboy type SMB3).
I personally enjoy Castlevania - the scrolling is kind of slow but
the feel and the music make up for it. I'm a Mega Man nut so I'd
tell you to get any of them, but the sad irony is that the two best
are also expensive and hard to acquire.. 4 and the Super Gameboy
enhanced 5. Among the "must-have" games for the early gameboy or
gameboy "classic" are Metroid II, Revenge of the Gator (silly pinball
game that sucks you in for hours), and Motocross Maniacs. On the
upgraded "color" gameboy the must-have games include Legend of Zelda DX,
Mega Man Extreme (a knock-off of SNES Mega Man X, more on that later)
and my fiancee really enjoys the translation of arcade fave Paperboy.

SNES: Super Mario World was the first true "random access" Mario
game in that you could complete different areas in the order you
choose, and in different ways (different exits in the same areas
open up different paths). Visually, it's top notch. The sequel
Yoshi's Island is more linear in gameplay but still incredible fun.
Of course Zelda "A Link to the Past" is excellent, as is Super
Metroid, Mega Man X (the game that gave side-scrolling Mega Man
a nice multi-dimensional visual appeal and was good enough to port
to GBC), and the highly desirable "Chrono Trigger" RPG from Squaresoft.
So hard to get in fact you're better off buying a PS1 and a copy of
"Final Fantasy Anthology" to get the near-perfect Playstation version.

N64: I don't own one, but if I did I'd own it simply for the chance
to play "Goldeneye." This Bond game is not limited to mimicking the
movie of the same name - it offers a multi-player head to head battle,
plenty of secrets to unlock (the "paintball" mode is fun!) and echoes
other favorite Bond movies in the scenarios you can play - there's even
a "Man With the Golden Gun" option where if you find the golden gun and
bullets you can kill your opponents with just one shot. :)

Gamecube: Don't have one; no comments available.

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Smith-Perricone

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Nov 25, 2001, 11:52:41 PM11/25/01
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> Super Mario Land is a fun game to own and play, but visually suffers
> compared to any Mario game on any other system and really looks bad
> compared to Mario Land 2 (looks and plays like a Gameboy type SMB3).

Looks aren't everything, my friend. "Super Mario Land" is one of my
favorite of all the Mario titles. IMHO, game play is so much better than on
the prettier "SML2". It is one of those games that you'll find yourself
comming back to time and time again. The only downside to it is the lack of
a battery save feature so, if you're interested in beating the game, you
have to do it all in one sitting.


Steve 'Flash' Juon

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Nov 26, 2001, 12:20:16 AM11/26/01
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In article <u03iipf...@news.supernews.com>, ss...@NOSPAMenter.net
says...

> Looks aren't everything, my friend. "Super Mario Land" is one of my
> favorite of all the Mario titles.

I didn't say I didn't like it. ;) I hunted three different pawn
shops and a dozen or so eBay auctions before I bought one for $8
to re-add an original GB favorite to my collection!

Kirk Is

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Nov 30, 2001, 9:36:20 AM11/30/01
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Well, you have a very particular definition of "good"..(I for one hate
game where the difficulty is ramped up too much, my criteria for gaming
goodness is fun multiplayer or an interesting world to discover with new
interactions. I'm painfully aware of the "Atari 7800 Mission Impossible"
syndrome, where a programming bug made the game actually impossible. More
realistically, When a game designer has the option of requiring
pixel-perfect play, I don't trust that he or she has made it do-able in
the amount of time I'm willing to invest in it.

Anyway, some oddballs that seem to meet your criteria:

NES: Solar Warrior. Very consistent physics model, very challenging
extension of the old C=64 "Thrust" game.

NES: Mega Man. The first game in the series was very challenging. And the
whole series is pretty cool.

SNES: Tetris Attack / N64: Pokemon Puzzle League: I play this strictly
against my friend, and sometimes I'm amazed at how we've been able to add
new strategies to our arsenals, consistently setting up types of moves
that before we could barely think of.

N64: Space Station Silicon Valley. Fun little 3D puzzler with cool
roboanimals to hijack and figure out how to use. As far as I remember the
camera is pretty clean. One note, it doesn't work with the Memory
Expansion for some reason, so you have to but the placeholder pack that
came with the system back in. Other than that, fantastic

NES/ Game Boy / SNES: I think Metroid on any system it's available for is
a good bet as well.

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