Bushnell press release
Lee Seitz
'99. He quotes a portion of a press release. I have been unable to
find a full copy of this press release. Any pointers would be
welcome! Once I get the link, it'll be in the news article on the
Nexus (see sig). Thanks.
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Mylar
It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason for
going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
Thanks for the info.
Mylar
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Lee Seitz <lks...@fly.hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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kevin gifford
: Lee,
: It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
: putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason for
: going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
: Thanks for the info.
ahhh, yer cruel. =) personally, as long as this doesn't start a cascade of
cancellations i'm still going.
-tsr
Ianoid
>
> ahhh, yer cruel. =) personally, as long as this doesn't start a cascade of
> cancellations i'm still going.
>
Is Bill Shatner still gonna be there?
(JK) (Drawing a parallel between my geeky convention and other geeky
conventions)
Jerry Jessop
I take offense to your slanderous allegation with regards to Keita of
CGExpo and Nolan. Nolan was firmly committed to CGExpo and I discussed
this with him personally.
You need to wait for the facts to come out, it will make for
interesting reading.
Jerry Jessop
Hardware Engineering Manager
Sony Computer Entertainment America
Proud Atarian 1977-85
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:09:17 -0700, "Mylar" <my...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>Lee,
>
>It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
>putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason for
>going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
>Thanks for the info.
>
>
Lee Seitz
Mylar <my...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
>putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason for
>going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
>Thanks for the info.
Perhaps I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me (or both).
Bushnell *was* going to attend CGE '99, but has changed his mind for
reasons not completely explained at Back In Time. I was hoping the
full press release might shed some more light on things. I'm still
looking.
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Triumph TR 7
Lee Seitz wrote in message ...
>Back In Time reports that Nolan Bushnell will *not* be attending CGE
>'99. He quotes a portion of a press release. I have been unable to
>find a full copy of this press release. Any pointers would be
>welcome! Once I get the link, it'll be in the news article on the
>Nexus (see sig). Thanks.
>
Lee Seitz
Lee Seitz <lks...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>Back In Time reports that Nolan Bushnell will *not* be attending CGE
>'99. He quotes a portion of a press release. I have been unable to
>find a full copy of this press release. Any pointers would be
>welcome! Once I get the link, it'll be in the news article on the
>Nexus (see sig). Thanks.
I have been informed that what Back In Time quotes is actually the
entire press release. I guess I can stop searching now. Thanks!
Glenn Saunders
wrote:
>I take offense to your slanderous allegation with regards to Keita of
>CGExpo and Nolan. Nolan was firmly committed to CGExpo and I discussed
>this with him personally.
>You need to wait for the facts to come out, it will make for
>interesting reading.
Jerry,
The exhibitors are eagerly awaiting just that. Until then,
unfortunately, all we have to go on is the press release and all
mention of Nolan being removed from CGExpo as if to say that he was
never a scheduled guest.
I'm sure you can understand the speculation that such an environment
is creating.
John B
>Lee,
>
>It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
>putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason for
>going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
>Thanks for the info.
>
>
>my...@sprynet.com
Mylar,
You are a dumbshit. If you think you are somehow elevating yourself
by saying this, you aren't. I always thought you were a dumbshit, but
know I think you're a mean and spiteful dumbshit. That you put Nolan
at such a high level of esteem shows it, that you ignorantly ignore
the other 20 legends appearing shows it, and that you insult one of
the core of our community puts the nail in the coffin.
I won't be so tolerant of you in #rgvc in the future.
John Babich (Gaspode_TWD)
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Mylar
Mean and Spiteful? Sounds like the only one being mean and spiteful is you
with your foul mouth. I WAS planning on going to CGE '99 and my main reason
for going was to see Nolan Bushnell. Do I have a right to be upset because
he is no longer attending? I think I do. The CGE '99 website made a big deal
about him being there and the only way I found out that he was no longer
attending was from Lee. I went to the CGE '99 website today and I did notice
that Nolan Bushnell's name no longer appears under "Celebrities" but at the
same time there is no explanation of why his no was removed. I think it
would have been considerate of Keita or John to put up a post to the
newsgroup or at least put up a disclaimer on the website clarifying this
matter. Is that too much to ask for? I think NOT! I appreciate a few of the
posts by people that seem to see my side of the story and not just to attack
me for not seeing eye to eye with one of the "Authorities" of the Classic
Gaming Community. Seems like many of those folks have big heads and even
Bigger EGOS!
Mylar
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John B <bab...@removethispart.azstarnet.com> wrote in message
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Jerry Jessop
Nolan's name was removed abruptly because that's what his assistant
requested. Why no explanation yet? Quite frankly I think they are
still trying to determine the actual reasons for his withdrawal. I
have read most of the emails and I honestly cannot tell you exactly
what circumstances transpired that caused Nolan to pull out.
There was no need to accuse CGExpo of just putting his name up to just
attract attendance. Nolan's a great guy, but look at the other guests
lined up and for the life of me I can't figure out why Nolan would be
the "only" reason somebody would attend.
Jerry
Alexander Bilstein
>
>John,
>
>Mean and Spiteful? Sounds like the only one being mean and spiteful is you
>with your foul mouth. I WAS planning on going to CGE '99 and my main reason
>for going was to see Nolan Bushnell. Do I have a right to be upset because
>he is no longer attending? I think I do. The CGE '99 website made a big deal
>about him being there and the only way I found out that he was no longer
>attending was from Lee. I went to the CGE '99 website today and I did notice
>that Nolan Bushnell's name no longer appears under "Celebrities" but at the
>same time there is no explanation of why his no was removed. I think it
>would have been considerate of Keita or John to put up a post to the
>newsgroup or at least put up a disclaimer on the website clarifying this
>matter. Is that too much to ask for? I think NOT! I appreciate a few of the
>posts by people that seem to see my side of the story and not just to attack
>me for not seeing eye to eye with one of the "Authorities" of the Classic
>Gaming Community. Seems like many of those folks have big heads and even
>Bigger EGOS!
I seriously doubt there was any kind of deception intended. I'm sure that we
will hear from John and Keita on this matter, but I would guess that they
simply removed his name at this point because that was the fastest thing to do.
It seems that this situation has just recently evolved, so lets give them a
chance to work things out with Nolan or at least give their side of the story.
Perhaps it was just a big misunderstanding. Talk of other guests and
promoters bailing out and CGE not being worthwhile is premature.
--
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> John,
>
>Seems like many of those folks have big heads and even
>Bigger EGOS!
<Newsflash>
You think?!?
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Klssicgmer
Just let this thing playout. I don't believe for a second that Keita would
pull one over on us. If that's the case he may well have told us the Pope
would be there for a Tempest tournament.
If that's the only reason why any of you were going to attend then you would be
missing out on so much more. The lineup other and Nolan is quite impressive.
If any of you went last year I'm sure you had a great time. I know I did.
Bottom line? No one is defrauding anyone. Things happen and we don't know
what those "things" are at the moment.
See you all at CG!
-Cav
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Mylar wrote in message <7jntj0$7ii$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>...
>John,
>
Seems like many of those folks have big heads and even
>Bigger EGOS!
>
And you'd know all about that wouldn't you Mr Millionare by xmas!
>Mylar
>my...@sprynet.com
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John B
Perhaps I was too harsh then, and I was truly offended at your
accusations against Keita, especially because you two haven't
exactly been friends. Just assure me that you aren't bringing
your personal agenda against him into play when making
slanderous remarks about this event.
For an explanation of Nolan's withdrawal, you have to understand
that this just popped up, so give them time to sort out details and
I'm sure as Jerry said, you'll find out what is going on.
As for Nolan himself, you have to understand that I feel very
strongly that saying that you won't go just because of him,
insults the other underappreciated guests like Ralph Baer, Ed
Logg, David Crane and Jerry Jessop, and many many others.
You are also missing a secondary point of the expo, it is not
only a Celebrity Meet and Greet but it is an excuse for this
community to come together, trade, talk, and have fun.
Please understand my frustration, I wasn't implying that
you weren't intelligent but that you lack common sense,
just with a couple sentences you offended so many people
it boggles my mind. What you said could basically boil down
to "Keita's sneaky and there's no reason to go to CGExpo",
of course we'll get angry!
Mylar
Maybe I was a little harsh in saying that the ONLY reason I was attending
was to see Nolan Bushnell, but I will tell you this, it was one of my MAIN
reasons for going. I have told Keita in the past that it would be an honor
to meet Nolan Bushnell and David Crane and because of these two guests I
decided to attend the show. I have already met Rob Fulop and a few other
guests from last years show, so seeing them is NOT that big of a deal to me.
I think everyone has their own reasons for attending. I'm sure the vendors
priority is to make money, the guests to meet people in the community and
have a good time. Mine was to meet Nolan Bushnell. Please remember, I am an
individual. I have the same rights to express my thoughts and my opinions,
just as you do yours. I would think that you would have to be narrow minded
in thinking that I was the only person attending in hopes of seeing Nolan
Bushnell.
In my first post I was only trying to state that if Nolan indeed will not be
attending then Keita or John need to come out with a statement. I think it
is foolish of them to just remove his name from the list without a formal
statement. Even if there may be a possibility of Nolan recommitting himself,
a statement still needs to be made.
Mylar
my...@sprynet.com
John B <bab...@removethispart.azstarnet.com> wrote in message
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Mylar
Slanderous allegations? Read for yourself!
CGE Update - Nolan Bushnell has officially announced that he will NOT be
attending Classic Gaming Expo. Here is an excerpt from the press release:
Due to questionable actions on the part of one of the organizers of "Classic
Gaming Expo 99," Nolan Bushnell will no longer be participating in, nor
endorsing this year's event (scheduled to take place August 14th and 15th at
the Plaza Hotel in Las Vegas).
This has made me seriously reconsider my position with CGE. I know that I
have been promoting CGE for some time, but I am beginning to have my doubts
about the ability of the CGE team to produce a quality event. Stay
tuned.....
Mylar
my...@sprynet.com
Jerry Jessop <jjes...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> I take offense to your slanderous allegation with regards to Keita of
> CGExpo and Nolan. Nolan was firmly committed to CGExpo and I discussed
> this with him personally.
>
> You need to wait for the facts to come out, it will make for
> interesting reading.
>
> Jerry Jessop
> Hardware Engineering Manager
> Sony Computer Entertainment America
>
> Proud Atarian 1977-85
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:09:17 -0700, "Mylar" <my...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> >Lee,
> >
> >It figures. Guess Keita was just trying to boost this years attendance by
> >putting him on the ticket. Seeing Nolan was going to be my ONLY reason
for
> >going to CGE '99. Guess I don't have to worry about buying tickets now.
> >Thanks for the info.
> >
> >
> >Mylar
> >my...@sprynet.com
> >
> >
> >Lee Seitz <lks...@fly.hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> >news:Du5n6Hcs#GA....@pet.hiwaay.net...
> >> Back In Time reports that Nolan Bushnell will *not* be attending CGE
> >> '99. He quotes a portion of a press release. I have been unable to
> >> find a full copy of this press release. Any pointers would be
> >> welcome! Once I get the link, it'll be in the news article on the
> >> Nexus (see sig). Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lee K. Seitz * lks...@hiwaay.net * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
> >> WTB: Pac-Man tie; Rom, Spaceknight weapons; plush Q*bert doll.
> >> Visit the Classic Video Games Nexus for all your classic link needs!
> >> http://start.at/cvgnexus
> >
>
Klssicgmer
Facts will come out. Two lines of a "press release" does not constitute
"facts".
The story will be told in time. Unfortunately it just won't be on your
timetable.
I'm just as disappointed as you that Nolan Bushnell won't be there I'm just not
comprehending your hostility. Which, by the way, Nolan not attending, in the
grand scheme of life, is not a very big deal. I plan on living through this
traumatic event with the help, love and support of my friends and family (<-
sarcasm!)
So, I'll ask once more; why don't we all just take a deep breath and see how
things transpire.
And be sure to check out the rest of the guest lineup at www.cgexpo.com as
there are many impressive guests attending.
I look forward to meeting many of you at the show.
Jerry Jessop
John,
It looks like Mylar is starting to come to his senses. Clearly I did
not appreciate the attack on Keita's personal integrity and the CGExpo
staff. If Nolan was never committed to attending the show, he would
not have put out a press release canceling himself would he Mylar?
Maybe the CGExpo staff has remained quite in hopes the situation and
or decision would be turned around? Why not keep things quite while
the wheels work behind the scenes. Don't get your hopes up as I'm
certain Nolan is out, but give the guys a little more credit in the
way of integrity.
Since you mentioned my name in particular John I am very sorry to say
I will also not be attending CGExpo. This is not due to any riff with
the CGExpo staff but a general disgust with a few members of the
classic gameing community. I'll tell my story in due time, until then
start saving your $$$$ as most of my collection will be going up on
Ebay. I only plan on keeping a few classic mainstream items for my
office at work.
Jerry
Chris Cracknell
>CGE Update - Nolan Bushnell has officially announced that he will NOT be
>attending Classic Gaming Expo. Here is an excerpt from the press release:
>
>Due to questionable actions on the part of one of the organizers of "Classic
>Gaming Expo 99," Nolan Bushnell will no longer be participating in, nor
>endorsing this year's event (scheduled to take place August 14th and 15th at
>the Plaza Hotel in Las Vegas).
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
Is Sean Kelly one of the organizers? Maybe Nolan found out he makes pirated
multicarts and decided not to be linked to the event.
Or maybe he just found out they're charging $500 for a table. ;)
Or maybe one of them had an affair with Monica Lewinski.
"I don't define playing "Beat 'Em and Eat 'Em" as having a sexual
relation."
The CGE silence on this matter (I know they say "all will be made clear
in good time") only heightens the intrigue. After all, if it was just a
simple issue then a quick "He's not comming because of this..." post
would clear everything up and put all minds to ease.
But by delaying an explanation (perhaps until after the event if over)
may prove to be costly. Rumour grows in the absence of facts and what
may have been a simple dispute between Nolan and an organizer could get
blown into a full scale scandle through internet gossip. The longer
they delay in putting this item to rest, the more costly it could be
in terms of lost attendance. After all, if it was something grand enough
to so greatly offend the Godfather of Videogames many other peopler may
feel that they too want nothing to do with CGE either.
Personally I hear Nolan won't be attending because they refused to give
him a blueberry creme danish in his dressing room.
CRACKERS
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Larry Lefebvre
can't do it -the cost is too much. However, I do have a
plan, but it will requires a lot of help from many of you.
<SCAM MODE ON> I currently have in my basement,
about 50-rare Combat carts... Yes, I said rare!!! Each
one of them have some special uniq identifying mark (tear,
heavy scratch, personal name, and so on) on the label
and I can assure you that they are all one of a kind and
it is my priviledge to offer them to all of you at the very
low rock bottom price of only $50.00 each. I will probably
regret selling these at these prices, so get them before
I change my mind. Where else can you get a deal like
this and still help out a fellow usenet classic gamer at
the same time... What a Deal (especially for me, since
I get to go to the show)!!! <SCAM MODE OFF>
Trust me, if you go, they will be there (or is that come)...
Thanks for the memories... See ya!
Larry
Alexander Bilstein wrote in message <7johig$5e3$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>...
>In article <7jntj0$7ii$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, my...@sprynet.com
says...
>>
>>John,
>>
>>Mean and Spiteful? Sounds like the only one being mean and spiteful is you
>>with your foul mouth. I WAS planning on going to CGE '99 and my main
reason
>>for going was to see Nolan Bushnell. Do I have a right to be upset because
>>he is no longer attending? I think I do. The CGE '99 website made a big
deal
>>about him being there and the only way I found out that he was no longer
>>attending was from Lee. I went to the CGE '99 website today and I did
notice
>>that Nolan Bushnell's name no longer appears under "Celebrities" but at
the
>>same time there is no explanation of why his no was removed. I think it
>>would have been considerate of Keita or John to put up a post to the
>>newsgroup or at least put up a disclaimer on the website clarifying this
>>matter. Is that too much to ask for? I think NOT! I appreciate a few of
the
>>posts by people that seem to see my side of the story and not just to
attack
>>me for not seeing eye to eye with one of the "Authorities" of the Classic
>>Gaming Community. Seems like many of those folks have big heads and even
>>Bigger EGOS!
>
Charles E Taylor IV
lks...@fly.hiwaay.net (Lee Seitz) writes:
> Back In Time reports that Nolan Bushnell will *not* be attending CGE
> '99. He quotes a portion of a press release.
It looks like after the thread generated by this post that it's time
for another "commercialization will be the death of the hobby" thread
... ;)
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scottith
was initially committed to going (as are the dozens of other guests listed
to attend). It would have been great if he could have attended, but can
anyone honestly say that would be the ONLY reason to go?
The reason behind Bushnell's change of heart will come out soon enough, so
I suggest everyone should think twice about personally attacking these guys
(unless you include "crow" in your daily diet...)