Atari's Jaguar: Simply the Best
Jagrulz1
After an exhaustive assessment of all other systems presently on the
market and their gaming libraries, I have concluded that the Atari Jaguar
provides by far the best overall quality for each dollar spent. In fact,
even if cost were not a factor the Atari Jaguar with its exceptional 50+
games library would rank first. Atari with its limited budget and "lack
of 3D experience" has created a system that not only compares well to the
big boys; it ranks 'em! That is a testament to the skill and dedication
of Atari's hard working team of engineers. If intellect were a commodity,
it would be safe to say that Atari has that market cornered. Of course,
all the tech skill in the world is valueless without the marketing and
management to get systems out the the masses. That is where the Tramiels,
with their years of expert management experience, really shine. Today the
Jaguar can be found in nearly 40,000 different outlets at a cost most
anyone can afford. As the torch is passed to JTS, I think we owe this
fine team a measure of thanks. Good job, Atari!
Now let's chat for a moment about the Jag. The Jaguar64 is an
extraordinarily well engineered game system with reliable components that
will last the average gamer a lifetime. Add to that the blinding speed
of twin 64 bit processors, a 64 bit blitter, and 850 megapixel per second
bus, award winning ergonomic controllers, a 3D aware 64 bit object
processor, a 24 bit DSP, CRY true color, and a 68000 thrown in just to
handle the controllers and you have one #%(@% of a system. YES, YES, YES!!
Let the games begin. Let me repeat. Let the games begin! Tempest 2000.
Alien v/ Predator. Defender 2000. Missile Command 3D. Rayman. NBA Jam.
Power Drive Ralley. Super Burnout. Val D'Issere Skiing. BattleMorph.
Hover Strike. Theme Park. Cannon Fodder. The list goes on and on..!
And with 20 years in the business, Atari isn't going anywhere. You can
bet there will be more games coming including the mindblowing Break-Out
2000 and T-Bird's masterpiece, BattleSphere. YES, YES, YES! Nothing
touches the Jaguar's gaming library; Tempest 2000 alone is worth more than
many competitors' entire selection.
It is understandable that those who haven't yet purchased a Jaguar are
envious and that, occasionally, an angry young man from a hostile camp
like the 3DO FMV club will come in and bash the system from a position of
envy and ignorance. That is sad but understandable. Not everyone can
take the level of stunning speed and realism that the Atari Jaguar can
deliver. If you are worthy, come share in the joy and purchase an Atari
Jaguar 64 bit gaming system today. You won't regret it! And the
Jaguar128 is coming soon... ! All the more reason to get up to speed on
the original AvP and other games before the 128 bit versions hit the
market.
JaGRulZonE!
Go Jag Go!
Mark Rathwell
: After an exhaustive assessment of all other systems presently on the
: market and their gaming libraries, I have concluded that the Atari Jaguar
: provides by far the best overall quality for each dollar spent.
Based on what criteria? The Jaguar is no longer state of the art.
It's library is smaller than the Saturn, PSX or 3DO. The 3rd party
support is minimal. Many of the older games don't take even remote
advantage of the Jaguar's power.
In fact,
: even if cost were not a factor the Atari Jaguar with its exceptional 50+
: games library would rank first.
Double Dragon V, Club Drive, Bubsy, Dragon and Ruiner Pinball are
your idea of exceptional?
: of Atari's hard working team of engineers. If intellect were a commodity,
: it would be safe to say that Atari has that market cornered.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Of course,
: all the tech skill in the world is valueless without the marketing and
: management to get systems out the the masses. That is where the Tramiels,
: with their years of expert management experience, really shine.
This guy must be a sarcastic Jag-basher. He can't possibly be
serious!
Today the
: Jaguar can be found in nearly 40,000 different outlets at a cost most
: anyone can afford.
40000 outlets? Yeah ... right. The largest the Jaguar retail base
ever was was about 8,500 outlets.
: Now let's chat for a moment about the Jag. The Jaguar64 is an
: extraordinarily well engineered game system with reliable components that
: will last the average gamer a lifetime.
Considering that the Jaguar is only two and a half years older,
you really have no proof of this.
Add to that the blinding speed
: of twin 64 bit processors, a 64 bit blitter
The PSX and Saturn are faster.
, and 850 megapixel per second
: If you like black and white video games.
: bus, award winning ergonomic controllers,
What awards?
a 3D aware 64 bit object
: processor, a 24 bit DSP
Eh ... the DSP is a 32 bit RISC processor that produces 16-bit sound.
, CRY true color, and a 68000 thrown in just to
: handle the controllers and you have one #%(@% of a system. YES, YES, YES!!
The 68000 is used for a lot more than "controller handling" in
many Jaguar games.
: touches the Jaguar's gaming library; Tempest 2000 alone is worth more than
: many competitors' entire selection.
I disagree.
: It is understandable that those who haven't yet purchased a Jaguar are
: envious and that, occasionally, an angry young man from a hostile camp
: like the 3DO FMV club will come in and bash the system from a position of
: envy and ignorance.
The 3DO has many good games in it's library. Is there a Jaguar
version of Road Rash? Fifa Soccer? Street Fighter II? 'Nuff said.
>> Mark <<
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PETER SINCLAIR-DAY
In article <4n4v2i$j...@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca>, mrat...@uoguelph.ca (Mark Rathwell) writes:
> : After an exhaustive assessment of all other systems presently on the
> : market and their gaming libraries, I have concluded that the Atari Jaguar
> : provides by far the best overall quality for each dollar spent.
>
> Based on what criteria? The Jaguar is no longer state of the art.
> It's library is smaller than the Saturn, PSX or 3DO. The 3rd party
> support is minimal. Many of the older games don't take even remote
> advantage of the Jaguar's power.
Mark, I am shocked!
>
> In fact,
> : even if cost were not a factor the Atari Jaguar with its exceptional 50+
> : games library would rank first.
>
> Double Dragon V, Club Drive, Bubsy, Dragon and Ruiner Pinball are
> your idea of exceptional?
Rof!
>
> : of Atari's hard working team of engineers. If intellect were a commodity,
> : it would be safe to say that Atari has that market cornered.
>
> Hahahahahahahahaha!
He he he he he.
>
> Of course,
> : all the tech skill in the world is valueless without the marketing and
> : management to get systems out the the masses. That is where the Tramiels,
> : with their years of expert management experience, really shine.
>
> This guy must be a sarcastic Jag-basher. He can't possibly be
> serious!
He owns a PlayStation..
Did you get a 3do?
>
> >> Mark <<
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>
>
> Incredible Hulk Television Series FAQ, Mark's Music Page, Atari Jaguar
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Dave Cowen
In article <4n4v2i$j...@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca>, mrat...@uoguelph.ca says...
>
>: After an exhaustive assessment of all other systems presently on the
>: market and their gaming libraries, I have concluded that the Atari Jaguar
>: provides by far the best overall quality for each dollar spent.
>
> Based on what criteria? The Jaguar is no longer state of the art.
>It's library is smaller than the Saturn, PSX or 3DO. The 3rd party
>support is minimal. Many of the older games don't take even remote
>advantage of the Jaguar's power.
Now wait a second... re-read the first paragraph there. Note the words
"For each dollar spent".
The simple truth is that the Jag, for the last few months, has been
dirt-cheap. Consoles went for $50, and carts go for $20-$25 new in my area
(if you can find used ones, it's even less).
I'm not typically one to post Jag hyperbole, and I'll be the first to say
that the PSX is by far a more powerful and development-friendly system. BUT,
I'm not about to go out and pay $300 for a nextgen system. For the meager
amount of money I've payed for my Jag, I feel that I've got a mighty powerful
system. What other game system gives you the kind of quality a Jag console
and T2K does for, say, $79? For the price, the Jag rocks hard.
I'm not going to _touch_ the other comments here, as the hyperbole is
overwhelming.
Dave Cowen (es...@fische.com)
Chris Lee
Let's spare everyone the quoting...
Jagrulz1 may come off a bit of the psychotic at times, but he seems to be
the only one posting anything constructive or positive here at times.
E.W. Swan
On 13 May 1996, Chris Lee wrote:
> Jagrulz1 may come off a bit of the psychotic at times, but he seems to be
> the only one posting anything constructive or positive here at times.
I used to wonder if maybe Mr. Jagrulz1 might have been someone just
trolling through the newsgroup to make legitimate owners of the Jaguar
look silly. But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
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Karl J. von Laudermann
In article <4n7rpr$v...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com>,
>the only one posting anything constructive or positive here at times.
Positive, yes. Constructive? Hardly.
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Mark Rathwell
: Now wait a second... re-read the first paragraph there. Note the words
: "For each dollar spent".
The words were "noted." I still don't think the Jaguar is the
best bang for the buck anymore.
: The simple truth is that the Jag, for the last few months, has been
: dirt-cheap. Consoles went for $50, and carts go for $20-$25 new in my area
: (if you can find used ones, it's even less).
The carts are cheap for the Jag, but I can also find cheap
Saturn, PSX and 3DO games. Consoles did go for $50, but only for two weeks.
: and T2K does for, say, $79? For the price, the Jag rocks hard.
I'm pleased with my purchace too, but JagRULZ is pushing things.
Jerry Danzig
Unfortunately Jagrulz never identifies the source of his incredibly
optimistic information. As a result, anything he says is highly suspect
until we actually see the products that have inspired his enthusiasm.
Kevin O'Hare
I was among the first to buy a Jaguar, and have enjoyed playing it since then.
However, in spite of Jagrulez's rosey predictions, I note a slight level of
sarcasm in the tone of his writings for me to conclude, that he's saying what
we all know, and some are afraid to admit. That despite the technical achievement
(at the time) that the Jaguar offered, the marketing was dismal, and for that,
the Jaguar is dying a slow painful death in the marketplace.
None of this takes away from what the Jaguar did for the industry, and to
those of us, who still enjoy playing, some great games made for it.
To that end, I bought a Sony playstation, and it stands SIDE-BY-SIDE with
the Jaguar on the TV. Personally, dollar for dollar, I think the Jaguar
is a better buy, but let's face it, there will be few new games made for
the Jaguar, and as a videogamer, I have to move forward to some degree.
I will say this, I really like the Jaguar controllers over the Sony PS.
I can be an advocate of the Jaguar, and still own other gaming systems,
something that seems to be lost to most who frequently post here.
Kevin O'Hare E-mail: kev...@cup.hp.com
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Jagrulz1
E.W. Swan writes...
> But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
> collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
There wouldn't be a Jaguar if it wasn't for the Tramiels, dimwit. It
astonishes me how people can rave about the Jag but then turn around and
criticize the management team that made that system a reality. It was
months of blood, sweat, and tears on part of Mr. Sam Tramiel and his team
that made the twin 64-bit RISC turbocharged Jaguar a reality. I think
they richly deserve to have some sunshine blown up their collective ass.
JaGRulZoNE
PETER SINCLAIR-DAY
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Your true identity is Sam Tramiel Jr., pimple face son of Sam..
>
> JaGRulZoNE
JaGtRaMlUzeRonE
Jason Costa
jagr...@aol.com (Jagrulz1) wrote:
>E.W. Swan writes...
>
>> But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
>> collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
>
>There wouldn't be a Jaguar if it wasn't for the Tramiels, dimwit. It
>astonishes me how people can rave about the Jag but then turn around and
>criticize the management team that made that system a reality. It was
>months of blood, sweat, and tears on part of Mr. Sam Tramiel and his team
>that made the twin 64-bit RISC turbocharged Jaguar a reality. I think
>they richly deserve to have some sunshine blown up their collective ass.
>
Oh, don't be so dramatic. I never saw any blood, and the sweat was
because the Tramiels are fat oinkers (do you think they might sue me for
libel?), and there aren't any tears being shed; Atari dumping the Jag was
probably one of the best moves they made. I'm sure if the Tramiels had to
do it all over again, they wouldn't even consider making the Jaguar a
reality.
-JC-WATCHDOG
Steve
jagr...@aol.com (Jagrulz1) wrote:
>E.W. Swan writes...
>
>> But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
>> collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
>
>There wouldn't be a Jaguar if it wasn't for the Tramiels, dimwit. It
>astonishes me how people can rave about the Jag but then turn around and
>criticize the management team that made that system a reality. It was
>months of blood, sweat, and tears on part of Mr. Sam Tramiel and his team
>that made the twin 64-bit RISC turbocharged Jaguar a reality. I think
>they richly deserve to have some sunshine blown up their collective ass.
>
>JaGRulZoNE
WRONG!!! The tramiels have done nothing except to advance the
uni-bomber's goal in life and that is waste perfectly good technology.
There should be a law against technocide(see Atari Jaguar, Lynx and any
other Tramiel created product for an explaination of technocide.)
Edward Mathews
Jagrulz1 (jagr...@aol.com) wrote:
: E.W. Swan writes...
:
: > But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
: > collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
:
: There wouldn't be a Jaguar if it wasn't for the Tramiels, dimwit. It
: astonishes me how people can rave about the Jag but then turn around and
: criticize the management team that made that system a reality. It was
: months of blood, sweat, and tears on part of Mr. Sam Tramiel and his team
: that made the twin 64-bit RISC turbocharged Jaguar a reality. I think
: they richly deserve to have some sunshine blown up their collective ass.
:
: JaGRulZoNE
have the 520 ST and the 1040 ST. My brother had stock in the company.
Atari has consistantly put out incredible technology (thank the engineers)
then dropped the ball with the marketing and support (thank the Tremiels).
I, for one, am a happy Jaguar owner with the CD-ROM. This doesn't
preclude me from wishing the Tremiels a fond farewell from Atari Corp.
(Kind of a moot point now, but that madre pho-ker Jack will be on the
board of JTS... maybe he can mismanage a harddrive company, too.) I
hope Time-Warner just buys the company's intellectual properties back and
does something intelligent with them (i.e. use them). I doubt that will
happen. I also doubt that we have seen the last of Atari, however. It is
like a Phoenix, fer God's sake. (closer to a cockroach as of recently).
Two words define Atari ever since the Tremiels took over: Potential lost.
Ed (who likes the VLM enough to not care if another game comes out for the
Jag, but hopes they do anyway) Mathews
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E.W. Swan
On 15 May 1996, Jagrulz1 wrote:
> E.W. Swan writes...
> > But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
> > collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
>
> There wouldn't be a Jaguar if it wasn't for the Tramiels, dimwit.
Maybe not, but whatever Atari put out, it would have been better marketed,
would have enjoyed wider support, and maybe made Atari something other
than a laughing stock.
> that made the twin 64-bit RISC turbocharged Jaguar a reality. I think
> they richly deserve to have some sunshine blown up their collective ass.
I still think you're a troll.
James Wood
On 12 May 1996, Dave Cowen wrote:
> The simple truth is that the Jag, for the last few months, has been
> dirt-cheap. Consoles went for $50, and carts go for $20-$25 new in my area
> (if you can find used ones, it's even less).
>
> I'm not typically one to post Jag hyperbole, and I'll be the first to say
> that the PSX is by far a more powerful and development-friendly system. BUT,
> I'm not about to go out and pay $300 for a nextgen system. For the meager
> amount of money I've payed for my Jag, I feel that I've got a mighty powerful
> system. What other game system gives you the kind of quality a Jag console
> and T2K does for, say, $79? For the price, the Jag rocks hard.
WHERE CAN I GET A JAG RIGHT NOW (5/15/96) FOR $50??
WHERE CAN I GET A JAG PLUS T2K FOR $79????
Name, location, and phone number (don't forget area code) and I will call
them later today and if I can get one at that price, I may just order
one. I strongly suspect this is all hot air.
James
James Wood
On 13 May 1996, Chris Lee wrote:
> Let's spare everyone the quoting...
>
> Jagrulz1 may come off a bit of the psychotic at times, but he seems to be
> the only one posting anything constructive or positive here at times.
>
Constructive? I suppose taking a shit is constructive (from your
perspective) then?
James Wood
On Mon, 13 May 1996, E.W. Swan wrote:
>
> I used to wonder if maybe Mr. Jagrulz1 might have been someone just
> trolling through the newsgroup to make legitimate owners of the Jaguar
> look silly. But after he just blew that bit of sunshine up the Tramiels'
> collective ass, it's obvious that this is exactly what he is.
EVERYBODY should ignore Jagrulz1. Whether or not he is serious is second
to the fact that he has the mind of a child, and far too much time on his
hands. If he's really a Jag-bashing flamer coming here to make Jag
owners look ridiculous or indeed serious in his Jag praise, he makes Jag
owners look silly. As Jag prices continue to fall and I keep leaning
towards finally picking one up, I feel ashamed that I have to rub elbos
with such a cretin in the newsgroup.
Whether you love the Jag or hate it, you know that he's a ridiculous idiot.
It wouldn't be any fun for him if he was ignored.
James
JReed77969
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, The Jaguar Sucks!!!!! It is simple, IT
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
jreed...@aol.com (JReed77969) wrote:
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, The Jaguar Sucks!!!!! It is simple, IT
>SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple, much like you.
Michael Van
James Wood (jam...@PEAK.ORG) wrote:
: James
Call up 1-800-FUN-JAGS (Bits-of-Fun) to get a Jag for $49.99 and Tempest
2000 for $9.99 this memorial weekend.
Kelly Stanonik
James Wood wrote:
> WHERE CAN I GET A JAG RIGHT NOW (5/15/96) FOR $50??
> WHERE CAN I GET A JAG PLUS T2K FOR $79????
>
> Name, location, and phone number (don't forget area code) and I will call
> them later today and if I can get one at that price, I may just order
> one. I strongly suspect this is all hot air.
Just go over the www.atari.com and check out Don's wacky deals. They
are selling refurbed Jags for $55. Everyone relax. At $55 I might
buy another one. I already bought two of the used lynxs.
As far as getting T2K for another $29 look around in the crazy deals
page I think there's something in there about Jag cartridge deals.
But don't forget to buy D2K and Missile Command 3d as well.
Have a good one.
Kelly