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Arcade Shop now has the programable Jamma board available

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Michael Lenardon

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Jan 30, 2005, 8:33:15 AM1/30/05
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Wow, Steven finally has released the Gamma 1 board with programming software
to make you own multigame with trackball support. Unfortunatly it does not
list the Namco games as being supported and is advertised for a vertical
configuration. If anyone gets one of these soon it would be nice to see how
easy it is to program and if it will support horizontal games and others not
listed. I am hoping it will support Williams games, Atari Games like Major
Havoc, Missile Command, Atari Classics proto (Super Missile Command,
Centipede) and a few Capcom games such as Ghost N Goblins, Exes Exes, Ghouls
N Ghosts.

Michael Lenardon


arc...@wizmail.net

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Jan 30, 2005, 10:07:53 AM1/30/05
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Yep, saw this on Friday!! I was a bit confused though as they list
Moon Patrol as an option and that is definitely a horizontal oriented
game, not vertical. I was thinking they meant to put up Moon Cresta
which is Vertical and is available on the other multigame boards.

Since there are already a few multigame vertical board versions
(39-1/9-1/4-1) out I was hoping this one would support horizontal
games. Not sure why it doesn't do both, and haven't looked into it
yet. However, it does state "All games play on a vertically mounted
monitor"

Here's to hoping they correct that sooner than later!!

Jim

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Jan 30, 2005, 11:33:14 AM1/30/05
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Of course it supports Namco games. But with all the copyright
infringement enforcement going on with Namco these days theres no way
he would advertise that.

Ken Layton

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Jan 30, 2005, 12:07:17 PM1/30/05
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I run into many horizontal JAMMA cabinets and I'd like to see a multi
Jamma board for horizontal games, not just Williams stuff.

WEade

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Jan 30, 2005, 1:06:19 PM1/30/05
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I saw that, too, and am seriously buying one for a conversion.

Has anyone dealt with their other stuff? I like the idea of the
programmable one and can play Centipede with a joystick. It also lists
other great games that will run on it.

Am I reading right that it will support others "not listed?" If anyone
knows that the "other" games are, please e-mail me privately as to what they
are.

I'm about ready to plunk down the money for one!

Bill

Cylon_B

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Jan 30, 2005, 2:00:49 PM1/30/05
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Do you know much memory does it have ? In other words: how many games
can it handle ?

matt

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Jan 30, 2005, 2:27:49 PM1/30/05
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The board has 4 megs of flash RAM. So it will hold lots of old school games
or a few newer games. I'm going to be getting my hands on three of these
soon. I'll try to let the group know how they turn out.

Oh, if any of you want me to try certain games LMK.

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arc...@wizmail.net

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Jan 30, 2005, 2:32:01 PM1/30/05
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It says about 45 games, but it varies based on each individual game
size. I'd assume you could look at what was in the 39-1 games and then
add about 6 more games of the same approximate size and you have the
memory capacity. It's probably a relatively small amount of storage
size as older games didn't use that much.

Craig Yarbrough

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Jan 30, 2005, 2:53:13 PM1/30/05
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Just curious, how are they emulated? Is it MAME or something different?
Hardware emulation?

- Craig

Scott Caldwell

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Jan 30, 2005, 2:56:47 PM1/30/05
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Looks like an interesting idea. Too bad it doesn't come with
more RAM and the serial cable/power cord. If they are
required, then they shouldn't costs extra, IMHO.

I reviewed ArcadeShop for the details and Steven should
probably rephrase or correct the sentence: "Do connect one side
of the speaker to ground as damage may result." :)

Scott C.

bill....@gmail.com

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Jan 30, 2005, 6:28:00 PM1/30/05
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How does it work, says you can connect a trackball to the player 2
controls. Could I somehow hook up a spinner instead for arkanoid?

A. Cassady

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Jan 30, 2005, 6:05:36 PM1/30/05
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bill....@gmail.com wrote:

> How does it work, says you can connect a trackball to the player 2
> controls. Could I somehow hook up a spinner instead for arkanoid?
>

Since a spinner is one axis of a trackball, you could easily hook one up, using
only the x-axis connections, for Arkanoid.

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WEade

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Jan 30, 2005, 7:18:00 PM1/30/05
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I've decided that I am converting my one game and will be ordering one. I'm
looking forward to it!

Bill

Ken Layton

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Jan 30, 2005, 10:32:20 PM1/30/05
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I'm wondering if this board has support of the coin counters circuit?

matt

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Jan 30, 2005, 11:35:39 PM1/30/05
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I'll try to remember to find out and let ya know.

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bill....@gmail.com

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Jan 31, 2005, 10:10:25 AM1/31/05
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thats what I had in mind A. Cassady
seems very cool

Weade

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Jan 31, 2005, 11:11:00 AM1/31/05
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I thought it did? The show the pinout of the connector and it does list the
counters.

Bill

Bones

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Jan 31, 2005, 3:20:59 PM1/31/05
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I bet you that this thing sells out very, VERY fast... I can't wait to get
ahold of one. It'll save so much agravation since I had planned on making a
MAME cabinet with my next project! Now all I need is a JAMMA cab and one of
these and I'm in good shape!

Rob


Bones

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Jan 31, 2005, 6:05:01 PM1/31/05
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I emailed Steve and was told that as of now the board only has support for
vertical games and the 12 games listed. No assurances were given, but I get
the impression that it's fully updateable with downloadable patches in the
future for other games and possibly horizontal support. He also led me to
believe that there wouldn't be any shortages of these boards any time soon
(hopefully).

I was wondering if the ROMs it used were more "universal" (for lack of a
better way of putting it) and unlike MAME in that the ROM version required
seems to change with every subsequent version... I'd like to think I could
just upload my MAME v.88 version of frogger and have it work rather than
have to hunt down a different version of it to make it work. ...Steve
didn't really answer that one for me yet.

I'd love to grab one of these, but I think I'll hang on a bit until game
support improves more (especially for horizontal supported games).

Any other input?
Rob


Ken Layton

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Jan 31, 2005, 6:14:36 PM1/31/05
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On the horizontal games does it play them on a vertically mounted
monitor?

Steve Muccione

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Feb 1, 2005, 6:43:43 AM2/1/05
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You never know, it may very well be mame, but he might only include the
drivers necessary to support the games that are currently uploaded. He may
not have the fixed storage for the full mame build.

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Han Kouh

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Feb 1, 2005, 12:07:02 PM2/1/05
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I thought you couldn't package MAME code in a commercial product? Or,
is it just the roms that you can't?

Steve Muccione

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Feb 1, 2005, 1:47:45 PM2/1/05
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LMAO... they are selling pirated roms.. what do you think they care about
selling licensing violating copies of mame?

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Chuk

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Feb 1, 2005, 6:02:52 PM2/1/05
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Actually, it could be entirely legal. I don't know if they supply the roms
or not. If they don't, then they are covered.

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big dog

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Feb 1, 2005, 6:41:58 PM2/1/05
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Hi,

This is what should have been made years ago, it is legal.  The hardware is legal as well as the software interface, what you put on there is your own business.  This is a great way to sell the 39-1 etc. board and still let folks have Pac, Galaga etc. on there.  You just have to upload the ROM's from your own computer to the board yourself, taking on the legal responsibility.  It is great that is is erasable, as I am sure all of the other boards were if you could interface with the flash memory.  The only disappointment in this board is the limited amount of games that it holds.  With flash memory selling so cheap and this board selling for $350+, I would expect at least 512 MB of onboard flash if not 1 gig.  I don't know if this small amount of flash was put on there due to software interface limitations or to sell a different board later with more flash on it, allowing more games.  If it had 1 gig of flash it would pretty much be an all in one MAME board which would kick ass for those who want MAME cabs.

Later,
Mark Capps
www.arcadechips.com

Mark

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Feb 2, 2005, 3:09:35 PM2/2/05
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In article <420013C6...@bellsouth.net>, catf...@bellsouth.net
postulated...

> Hi,
>
> This is what should have been made years ago, it is legal. The hardware
> is legal as well as the software interface, what you put on there is
> your own business. This is a great way to sell the 39-1 etc. board and
> still let folks have Pac, Galaga etc. on there. You just have to upload
> the ROM's from your own computer to the board yourself, taking on the
> legal responsibility. It is great that is is erasable, as I am sure all
> of the other boards were if you could interface with the flash memory.
> The only disappointment in this board is the limited amount of games
> that it holds. With flash memory selling so cheap and this board
> selling for $350+, I would expect at least 512 MB of onboard flash if
> not 1 gig. I don't know if this small amount of flash was put on there
> due to software interface limitations or to sell a different board later
> with more flash on it, allowing more games. If it had 1 gig of flash it
> would pretty much be an all in one MAME board which would kick ass for
> those who want MAME cabs.
>
> Later,
> Mark Capps
> www.arcadechips.com
>

You suppose that Arcade Shop knows a thing or 2 about marketing a
product ? It is entirely possible that the board could take a gig but
they are going to release it now, with less. 6 months to a year down the
road a 512 MB version becomes available....then a 1 GB.

I may well be just blowing smoke here as I havent' evaluated the
hardware but the scenario I just described is a well-known marketing
tactic for extracting maximum ROI on a product.


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D Widel

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Feb 2, 2005, 3:19:20 PM2/2/05
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"Chuk" <ch...@ourcade.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, it could be entirely legal. I don't know if they supply the
roms
> or not. If they don't, then they are covered.

My copyright on the code in mame that runs ms pacman is just as valid as
Namco's copyright of Ms Pacman. Neither can be included for it to be legal.
However I'll assume he wrote his own emulator until I'm told otherwise.
MAME as it sits is pretty bloated for this application anyway.

Dave

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K.S.

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Feb 2, 2005, 11:14:15 PM2/2/05
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big dog

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Feb 4, 2005, 8:05:42 AM2/4/05
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Hi,

Of course.

Mark Capps

Charles Moseley

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Feb 4, 2005, 4:09:08 PM2/4/05
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I talked to Arcade Shop today. It must be their own emulator because it only
runs nine or so games. I called them to ask when it will play more and I was
told they have no date for the next update.


Charlie

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