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VF stinks. VFremix was a nice try, but no cigar! Saturn games will NEVER be arcade perfect!

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Vega Bros.

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Aug 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/10/95
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>In article <401m5o$4...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> you wrote:
>: In <3vo2fg$o...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
g914...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA
>: (Sabu Joseph) writes:
>: >
>: >
>: >Why can't sega-genesis get VF, if they can get KI on the SHITTY
>: nintendo!!!
>: >
>: >just wonderin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>: >
>: >
>: ***I guess its because genesis can't handle it! Saturn can't even
>: handle it!
>
>Vegadolts, you just don't understand.

**oh, look! It's Giligan! So hows the professor?

> You evidently haven't seen
>pictures of VFRemix or VF2 on IGOnline.

**I have. They still are NOT arcade perfect! And Vfremix doesn't even
have light-shading (I guess they have to take something out. Like
always, saturn games will NEVER,i repeat NEVER, be arcade perfect!).


Alejandro Olague

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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vega...@ix.netcom.com (Vega Bros. ) wrote:

>**I have. They still are NOT arcade perfect! And Vfremix doesn't even
>have light-shading (I guess they have to take something out. Like
>always, saturn games will NEVER,i repeat NEVER, be arcade perfect!).


What the hell! I don't even know what light-shading or whatever its
called is.. All I know is that I've been playing a version of VF
(remix) for the past few weeks that is *superior* to the arcade
machine. It plays exactly the same, and it looks better.


Vega rhymes with Sega

Alejandro


Dick or Bob

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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vega...@ix.netcom.com (Vega Bros. ) wrote:
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>
>
> >
> >In article <401m5o$4...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> you wrote:
> >: In <3vo2fg$o...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
> g914...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA
> >: (Sabu Joseph) writes:
> >: >
> >: >
> >: >Why can't sega-genesis get VF, if they can get KI on the SHITTY
> >: nintendo!!!
> >: >
> >: >just wonderin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >: >
> >: >
> >: ***I guess its because genesis can't handle it! Saturn can't even
> >: handle it!
> >
> >Vegadolts, you just don't understand.
>
> **oh, look! It's Giligan! So hows the professor?
>
> > You evidently haven't seen
> >pictures of VFRemix or VF2 on IGOnline.
>
> **I have. They still are NOT arcade perfect! And Vfremix doesn't even
> have light-shading (I guess they have to take something out. Like
> always, saturn games will NEVER,i repeat NEVER, be arcade perfect!).
>
>
>
Neither will playstation's games!Look at MK3.In the PICTURES it does not
look perfect!

Vega Bros.

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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>> >: >Why can't sega-genesis get VF, if they can get KI on the SHITTY
>> >: nintendo!!!
>> >: >
>> >: >just wonderin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >: >
>> >: >
>> >: ***I guess its because genesis can't handle it! Saturn can't even
>> >: handle it!
>> >
>> >Vegadolts, you just don't understand.
>>
>> **oh, look! It's Giligan! So hows the professor?
>>
>> > You evidently haven't seen
>> >pictures of VFRemix or VF2 on IGOnline.
>>
>> **I have. They still are NOT arcade perfect! And Vfremix doesn't
even
>> have light-shading (I guess they have to take something out. Like
>> always, saturn games will NEVER,i repeat NEVER, be arcade perfect!).
>>
>>
>>
>Neither will playstation's games!Look at MK3.In the PICTURES it does
not
>look perfect!


*I know, that's why I'm going U64 all the way (considering a M2).

terrell gibbs

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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In article <40e9gf$2...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, al...@ix.netcom.com
(Alejandro Olague) wrote:

:vega...@ix.netcom.com (Vega Bros. ) wrote:
:
:
:
:
:
:>**I have. They still are NOT arcade perfect! And Vfremix doesn't even


:>have light-shading (I guess they have to take something out. Like
:>always, saturn games will NEVER,i repeat NEVER, be arcade perfect!).

:
:
:What the hell! I don't even know what light-shading or whatever its


:called is.. All I know is that I've been playing a version of VF
:(remix) for the past few weeks that is *superior* to the arcade
:machine. It plays exactly the same, and it looks better.
:
:
:Vega rhymes with Sega

:

Don't waste your time replying to the Vegas. They'll post any lie that
they think might piss somebody off. Arguing with them only encourages
them. I have them in my killfile, so I don't see their original posts
directly, but I occasionally see the fallout.

For your information, light source shading is the feature of the original
VF in which the shading of the characters differs according to where they
are relative to the light "source." It is most noticeable on Sarah's stage
where the lighting is from underneath--a nice effect. Needless to say,
none of the other fighting game have this feature at all, and Sega dropped
it in Remix in favor of texture mapping. VF Remix, by the way, is an
arcade-perfect version of a game that was released in the Japanese
arcades, running on Sega's Titan arcade board.

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terrell gibbs

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Aug 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/12/95
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In article <40gg86$q...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, jul...@ix.netcom.com
(joseph juliano) wrote:

: In <tgibbs-1108...@med-pharm3.bu.edu> tgi...@bu.edu (terrell
: gibbs) writes:

: >VF Remix, by the way, is an


: >arcade-perfect version of a game that was released in the Japanese
: >arcades, running on Sega's Titan arcade board.

: i hate to tell you but none of the next gen. system games will be
: perfect, it is impossible, unless you have the same exact hardware and
: code..

This is correct. However, as it happens, Sega's Titan arcade system, which
is used for the arcade VF Remix is essentially identical (except for using
ROM instead of CD) to the Saturn, just as the Tekken arcade board is
essentially identical to the Playstation.

Tony K. Jung

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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In article <40ei7k$3...@news.halcyon.com>, Dick or Bob <jwi...@halcyon.com>

> Neither will playstation's games!Look at MK3.In the PICTURES it does not
> look perfect!

It's alot perfect than VF was on the Saturn. Also, you can't really tell
from looking at a picture. I saw a video of MK3 on the PSX and it looked
perfect to me.


Tony Jung

Tony K. Jung

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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In article <40e9gf$2...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, al...@ix.netcom.com
(Alejandro Olague) wrote:


> What the hell! I don't even know what light-shading or whatever its
> called is.. All I know is that I've been playing a version of VF
> (remix) for the past few weeks that is *superior* to the arcade
> machine. It plays exactly the same, and it looks better.

VF Remix is NOT superior to the arcade. It's mostly texture-mapped and
not true 3D like the arcade, but then again neither is VF 2 for the Saturn.
AM2 is mostly texture-mapping this game too, more than the arcade VF2. I
like my Saturn, but it just can't handle 3D that well, not like the PSX.

Tony Jung

Andrew

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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In article <tjung-12089...@tjung.phantom.com>, tj...@phantom.com
(Tony K. Jung) wrote:

> In article <40e9gf$2...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, al...@ix.netcom.com
> (Alejandro Olague) wrote:
>
>
> > What the hell! I don't even know what light-shading or whatever its
> > called is.. All I know is that I've been playing a version of VF
> > (remix) for the past few weeks that is *superior* to the arcade
> > machine. It plays exactly the same, and it looks better.
>
> VF Remix is NOT superior to the arcade. It's mostly texture-mapped and
>

******"Not true 3D"?? Do you really think you should post here...? In front
of the whole world? FYI - Tekken and TSD HEAVILY rely on texture -mapping
to get their detail. Putting texture maps on polygon objects doesn't make
it any less "3D".... maybe you just mispoke;-)

-Andy

GREG HJELSTROM

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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Tony K. Jung (tj...@phantom.com) wrote:

: VF Remix is NOT superior to the arcade. It's mostly texture-mapped and
: not true 3D like the arcade, but then again neither is VF 2 for the Saturn.


: AM2 is mostly texture-mapping this game too, more than the arcade VF2. I
: like my Saturn, but it just can't handle 3D that well, not like the PSX.

Many games (including VF Remix, VF2, Tekken, Toshinden, Daytona, RR, Panzer
Dragoon, etc) are both texture-mapped AND 3D. What are you talking about?
Since when did texture mapping make a game "not true 3D"???????


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Vega Bros.

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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In <flameresistant-...@192.0.2.1> flameresistant (Andrew)
writes:
>
>In article <tjung-12089...@tjung.phantom.com>,
tj...@phantom.com
>(Tony K. Jung) wrote:
>
>
>******"Not true 3D"?? Do you really think you should post here...? In
^^^^^^^ Now I know who this is. It's Houdini.
So,Houdini, how come you post as "flameresistant" and "VegaSists"?
I will surely report this to NETCOM! And I do know your REAL address!
Nice try Andy.

>-Andy
^^^^^^ you make it so easy for me!

Craig Yarbrough

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Aug 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/15/95
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In <flameresistant-...@192.0.2.1> flameresistant (Andrew)
writes:
>
>In article <tjung-12089...@tjung.phantom.com>,
tj...@phantom.com
>(Tony K. Jung) wrote:
>
>> In article <40e9gf$2...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, al...@ix.netcom.com
>> (Alejandro Olague) wrote:
>>
>>
>> > What the hell! I don't even know what light-shading or whatever
its
>> > called is.. All I know is that I've been playing a version of VF
>> > (remix) for the past few weeks that is *superior* to the arcade
>> > machine. It plays exactly the same, and it looks better.
>>
>> VF Remix is NOT superior to the arcade. It's mostly texture-mapped
and
>>
>******"Not true 3D"?? Do you really think you should post here...? In
front
>of the whole world? FYI - Tekken and TSD HEAVILY rely on texture
-mapping
>to get their detail. Putting texture maps on polygon objects doesn't
make
>it any less "3D".... maybe you just mispoke;-)
>
>-Andy
>
> not true 3D like the arcade, but then again neither is VF 2 for the
Saturn.
>> AM2 is mostly texture-mapping this game too, more than the arcade
VF2. I
>> like my Saturn, but it just can't handle 3D that well, not like
the PSX.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Jung

Actually, there isn't much texture-mapping in TSD. However, I don't
see anything WRONG with texture-mapping. The VFs don't have that much
voluntary 3D movement. Maybe that's what he meant.

Siv

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