Agghhh! KT bugs!
rmd...@vaxa.isc.rit.edu
Killing Time Kaleidescope ( or however the hell you spell that) of polygons.
I guess in a combination of turning around too fast and simultaneously
changing my line of view the game crashed and the board started breaking up
into polygons twisting, turning, and morphing all over the screen. Then after
a while I'd say the first two inches around the perimeter of my little 13in
tv were black. At center I could see a distant stretched out version of the
board. As I shifted right and left I started to see other boards that must
have been adjacent to each other. I tried to see what other boards I could
see and the screen went black. Finally, the 3DO logo came on and the game
rebooted.
Also once out of nowhere the game rebooted while I was walking down a
hallway (and I hadn't learned yet to save every 5 minutes). But here's the
kicker. I had all but two of the keys and couldn't remember the last time I
saved it when the polygon bug happened again. I quickly straightened myself
out and the perspective of the room was normal so I immeadiatley, and
foolishly saved it. As I tried to move forward the screen started going to
shit again. So I tried loading my file. Wouldn't you know it the board is
completely black except for a green horizantal stripe (approx. 1/2 in wide)
by where you can see the "status wings". I now see thes status wings and note
that I hav 20,000% health and full ammo in everything. I hit start to look at
the map it's blank except for my score which was ove 2 billion!!! The music
to circus mortus was going since it was the board I had saved on. I then
tried moving and as I turned my direction on the map turned but I was unable
to go forward in any direction. I then started playing with my weapons. This
was kinda fun. I put on the flame thrower and let it rip. Then I realized I
could zoom (move?) toward the flame and not get hurt by it. I was able to
turn and see different perspectives of it. After getting all the amusement I
could out of this glitch I tried unsuccesfully a couple more time to reload
my file. Beging to accept the fact that I would have to start all over I
was left feeling a little depressed wondering what if this happens again when
I get 3/4 through the game. I thought that Studio 3DO had corrected all the
bugs in this game by now. I love the game but I am going to have to return it
if its this unpredictable.
This just in. My roommate tells me he had the glitch starting every time
he tried to load his file although there was nothing wrong with his file when
he had saved it. He was able to remedy this by trying to play the intro. When
it successfully ran (see Lucien's Quest thread bout' intro bug) he then tried
running his file (hypothesizing that they may have to do with the same thing)
and it worked. Although it doesn't do me alot of good since I saved it after
the bug had already taken its course.
Surely some of you must have experiences some Kt bugs. I do remember
them being mentione when the game was released but I thought they were fixed.
Does anyone know if there is anything I can do. BTW does KT have a setup file
in addtion to the game files as many 3do titles do. All that I saw in the
manager was the two game files and perhaps the game didn't require a check
for sufficient memmory for a setup file. I really don't want to get rid of
anything else to see. Game Guru where are you? If I had that I could
decompress my files and if I didn't have any luck there I could use codes so
I wouldn't have to start from scratch. PLEASE email or post any comments or
suggestions.
Thanks,
Ryan
desp...@s2.sonnet.com
>My frustration with the game grows each time I play it. The latest was the
>Killing Time Kaleidescope ( or however the hell you spell that) of polygons.
>suggestions.
>Thanks,
>Ryan
I have played the enitre game, beaten it, but have yet to run into a single problem
or glitch. The bugs you describe I did not see evidence of when I played it...anyone
else out there with no problems?
Brian
CHAOSFEAR
Neal3DO
tpan...@i2020.net (Tom Pancoast) writes:
> (to the original poster:) Contact neal.r...@3do.com for replacement
> instructions.
Tom and all:
Contact "customer...@3do.com" for replacement instructions...and
my last name is Robison - I certainly don't want your e-mails to bounce
;)
Neal
Director, 3DO Customer Service
BAD MACHINE
in for my corrected disk anyway.
(Save when the music ghanges--that's the CLUE!)
"I'm hell at whacking." (_Witness_)
Jason Quigley
>Brian
Well, no technical problems. Although my second time through I got
hopelessly stuck trying to fight the gangsters on the hard level of
difficulty. I think it was Tom3DO who suggested I try playing like this to
squeeze more out of the game and I did find it more enjoyable the 2nd time
around, but I got stuck in the West wing of the mansion without the flame
thrower and am now completely screwed. That's my only problem.
Quigs
Rob Alexander
> them being mentione when the game was released but I thought they were fixed.
> Does anyone know if there is anything I can do. BTW does KT have a setup file
> in addtion to the game files as many 3do titles do. All that I saw in the
> manager was the two game files and perhaps the game didn't require a check
> for sufficient memmory for a setup file. I really don't want to get rid of
> anything else to see. Game Guru where are you? If I had that I could
> decompress my files and if I didn't have any luck there I could use codes so
> suggestions.
> Thanks,
> Ryan
I was browsing through the Game Guru built in codes and noticed one of them for KT was
"Fix corrupted save file" (not exact quote), I would imagine it is for this bug. Any
one know for sure? I have been too lazy to send in for my fixed disk. You could try
it, if you have / can find a Game Guru (3DO Direct would have 'em).
BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute best in any
videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
Chris Papademetrious
that the game itself is so damned good...
- Chris
God I hope to see a sequel to this game.
gbr...@teleport.com
but it wasn't called KT2 it was called something else.
Craig B.
Neal3DO
gbr...@teleport.com writes:
> I saw somthing that said Studio 3do was makeing Killing Time 2 for the M2
> but it wasn't called KT2 it was called something else.
Craig:
Where did you hear that from? Just curious...
Neal
Director, 3DO Customer & Production Services
rmd...@vaxa.isc.rit.edu
>I saw somthing that said Studio 3do was makeing Killing Time 2 for the M2
>but it wasn't called KT2 it was called something else.
>
>
>
Yeah I read in one of those mags that KT will have a sequal as one of the 10
games that Studio 3DO is working on for the M2. For you 3d fighting fans I saw
a pic in EGM I believe that showed a fighter I forget the name coming out for
both the M2 and the PSX. Its best feature appeared to be that the loser could
select the next stage and if this was the charcter's "home turf" he/she was
granted a special move for that match.
Ryan
Evan Jones
for Killing Time ).
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David Nagy
[...]
: games that Studio 3DO is working on for the M2. For you 3d fighting fans I saw
: a pic in EGM I believe that showed a fighter I forget the name coming out for
: both the M2 and the PSX. Its best feature appeared to be that the loser could
: select the next stage and if this was the charcter's "home turf" he/she was
: granted a special move for that match.
That would be the game: "Ironblood'.
Dave Nagy
Observatory Operations
>I saw somthing that said Studio 3do was makeing Killing Time 2 for the M2
>but it wasn't called KT2 it was called something else.
>
Speaking of names, anyone know why Studio 3DO changed the name of the above
from "Time To Die?"
PLANT 42
>Speaking of names, anyone know why Studio 3DO changed the name of the above
>from "Time To Die?"
Maybe for Studio 3DO, it sounded too much like a prophecy rather than
the name of a game.
Roger Huebner
: gbr...@teleport.com wrote:
: >I saw somthing that said Studio 3do was makeing Killing Time 2 for the M2
: >but it wasn't called KT2 it was called something else.
: Speaking of names, anyone know why Studio 3DO changed the name of the above
: from "Time To Die?"
That's TIME 2 DIE !! ;)
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Michael Neff
>Observatory Operations <culgoora> spewed forth :
>
>>from "Time To Die?"
>
>the name of a game.
>
Or maybe Virgin Entertainment wanted to use that (based upon Rutger Hauer's
famous quote) for their upcoming Blade Runner game CD release (not for 3DO
of course...).
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Trevor Powell
> Observatory Operations <culgoora> spewed forth :
>
> >Speaking of names, anyone know why Studio 3DO changed the name of the above
> >from "Time To Die?"
>
> Maybe for Studio 3DO, it sounded too much like a prophecy rather than
> the name of a game.
There's a very good reason.
"Killing Time" is a better name.
Skip the rest of this message if you haven't yet solved Killing Time.
Minor spoilers follow.
"Killing Time" has three major meanings...
Killing Time, of course, can mean just wasting time. (Which is how you
feel while wandering around the garden maze and killing hunters in a
search for an invitation..)
Killing Time then means 'Time to Kill'... which really covers the whole game.
The final, and largest meaning is "Killing >Time<", which is what Tess has
succeeded in doing. The title forshadowing the final plot twist.. rather
a cool effect, for a video game.
As for "Time2Die"... it really just doesn't have the flair of "Killing
Time". Though it is interesting to note that the final section of Killing
Time is called Time2Die...
"Upon this time-trapped isle where time has ceased to be..."
Trevor Powell
Jason D. Bardis
>Observatory Operations <culgoora> spewed forth :
>>Speaking of names, anyone know why Studio 3DO changed the name of the above
>>from "Time To Die?"
>Maybe for Studio 3DO, it sounded too much like a prophecy rather than
>the name of a game.
Maybe it would've given the press and the nay-sayers more fodder for
fun puns and such...like certain comments about how appropriate it was
that the 3DO pack in was "Crash & Burn"
-Jason
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Jason Quigley
Chris Papademetrious (now THAT'S a mouthful!) wrote:
> I'm *almost* tempted to say that the music makes this game, except
>that the game itself is so damned good...
> God I hope to see a sequel to this game.
>Rob Alexander <rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute best in
>>any videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
I'll third that. I'm halfway tempted to order for that Toot Sweet Jazz
Band's album. Has anyone purchesed it based on Killing Time's toons? And if
so is it any good?
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Neal3DO
Rob Alexander <rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute best in
>any videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
I agree...if you look at the credits for the game, you'll notice a
gentleman by the name of Bob Viera - he's responsible for the music and
has done an incredible job. Just the other day I took some digital
samples of the music and burned an audio CD (redbook) of the music. I
played it on my stereo and it was great! [Note: Please don't ask for
copies, I've got enough to do ;)]
Leo L. Schwab
In article <4s3skj$5...@badger.3do.com>, Neal3DO <neal.r...@3do.com> wrote:
>Rob Alexander <rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute best in
>>any videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
>
>I agree...if you look at the credits for the game, you'll notice a
>gentleman by the name of Bob Viera
"Bob Vieira" is the correct spelling, actually (pronounced
vee-AIR-uh).
>he's responsible for the music and has done an incredible job.
Seconded. He also did the music and sound effects for "Escape from
Monster Manor," which I've been known to boot up just to listen to it.
>Just the other day I took some digital
>samples of the music and burned an audio CD (redbook) of the music.
Ooo! Can I have one, can I have one??
>[Note: Please don't ask for copies, I've got enough to do ;)]
>
Drat.
Market opportunity here, Neal...
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Jean-Paul Samson
On 07/11/96, Neal3DO wrote:
>Rob Alexander <rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute
>>best in any videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
>
>I agree...if you look at the credits for the game, you'll notice a
I like the music Burke Trieschmann put together for "Total Eclipse".
Whenever I play that game, I turn off the sound effects and crank up
the stereo. I believe Burke did the tunes for "Off-World Interceptor"
and "Battlesport" too. Any others?
I've never seen "Killing Time" or "Monster Manor", so I can't make any
comparisons to Bob.
Sean Samson
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Jason Quigley
Jean-Paul Samson wrote:
>I like the music Burke Trieschmann put together for "Total Eclipse".
>Whenever I play that game, I turn off the sound effects and crank up
>the stereo. I believe Burke did the tunes for "Off-World Interceptor"
>and "Battlesport" too. Any others?
>I've never seen "Killing Time" or "Monster Manor", so I can't make any
>comparisons to Bob.
Don't waste your time on Monster Manor, cause whatever music is there isn't
worth sitting through the game. But get your hands on Killing Time which,
once you get past the duck hunters outside the house, is a whole lot of
fun. The fact that it's got an incredible sound track should be viewed as
the cherry on top.
Rob Alexander
Neal3DO wrote:
> I agree...if you look at the credits for the game, you'll notice a
> gentleman by the name of Bob Viera - he's responsible for the music and
> has done an incredible job. Just the other day I took some digital
> samples of the music and burned an audio CD (redbook) of the music. I
> played it on my stereo and it was great! [Note: Please don't ask for
> copies, I've got enough to do ;)]
>
> Neal
> Director, 3DO Customer & Production Services
Wow! I'm glad my comment generated some enthusiastic responses. Maybe
Studio 3DO could sell some copies of this CD. You wouldn't have to deal
with licensing since it's your game. Put me down for an order!!!
The Comedian
some of the music in KT scared the poop outta me; it was so spooky.
and since then, I've heard music in movies or commercials which brings
me back to some of the KT music....yes, a great plus in owning that
game.
The above is for entertainment purposes only.
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Bob Vieira
In article <4s3vh1$6...@badger.3do.com>
ew...@ntg.com (Leo L. Schwab) writes:
> In article <4s3skj$5...@badger.3do.com>, Neal3DO <neal.r...@3do.com> wrote:
> >Rob Alexander <rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>BTW, does anyone else think the music in this game is the absolute best in
> >>any videogame? I can't get over how perfectly it was done.
> >
> >I agree...if you look at the credits for the game, you'll notice a
> >gentleman by the name of Bob Viera
>
> "Bob Vieira" is the correct spelling, actually (pronounced
> vee-AIR-uh).
>
> >he's responsible for the music and has done an incredible job.
>
> Seconded. He also did the music and sound effects for "Escape from
> Monster Manor," which I've been known to boot up just to listen to it.
>
> >Just the other day I took some digital
> >samples of the music and burned an audio CD (redbook) of the music.
>
> Ooo! Can I have one, can I have one??
>
> >[Note: Please don't ask for copies, I've got enough to do ;)]
> >
> Drat.
>
> Market opportunity here, Neal...
>
Thanks LEO! My grandfather will be happy to hear there others are
protecting the real spelling of our name. BTW, usenet people, the
Toot Sweet album includes only 3 of the 48 music files on KT. =Bob
Vieira=