Survey on a new 3do RPG game
Enrique Conty
HdT1131879 <hdt11...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
>style? OR digitized people?
Anime! Anime! Anime! (Then again, I'm a big anime fan, so take my
comment with a grain of salt.) But whatever you do, *don't* use
digitized people stills. For some reason, they always look cheesy next
to drawings of the character.
>2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
>star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
>Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
Just start out with a plain fantasy RPG setup. No need to complicate things,
since there are other things you should be worrying about:
- the combat system
- will the game be puzzle-heavy, interaction-heavy, or combat-heavy?
- will the game be heavily scripted like Japanese RPGs, or free-floating
like American RPGs?
- write a good storyline!
>3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
Yes, no if, ands, or buts about it, especially when there is a grand total
of *ONE* RPG available right now (Guardian War).
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HdT1131879
options:
1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
style? OR digitized people?
2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
Chris Curry
hdt11...@aol.com (HdT1131879) wrote:
|>I am taking a survey on what style of rpg the crowd wants. I have several
|>options:
Okay
|>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
|>style? OR digitized people?
If its a Japanese game then by all means include Japanese animation
if not, make it realistic or digitized to make up for the fact that
you were stupid enough to make a non-Japanese RPG in the first place
since they make the best ones ;-)
:-)
|>2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
|>star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
Isn't phantasy star a mixture of fantasy and sience?
Anyway I think it should definately be a fantasy type RPG (what ever happened
to Ishar 3 anyway?) if it has some science in it so be it as long as it has
a fantasy theme as well. Cosmic Fantasy 2 was a pretty darn good one IMO
(even though I didn't like the fighting engine, the story line was awsume)
|>Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
Sort of like a fantasy?
Sure a few Demons here and there couldn't hurt, and heaven knows I'm always
in the mood for a good demon bashing :-)
|>3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
This shoudn't even be a question.
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>I am taking a survey on what style of rpg the crowd wants. I have several
>options:
>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
>style? OR digitized people?
Anime style, of course.
>2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
>star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
>Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
If it's well-written, style won't matter. Just keep the interface
unencumbered, make the combat graphics flashy, and the story interesting.
>3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
Isn't it obvious? :)
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> 1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
> style? OR digitized people?
I prefer Anime-style characters myself.
> 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
> star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
Definetly Phantasy Star's scientific theme, maybe mixed with a little
fantasy. I think PS is the BEST role-playing game around.
Final Fantasy games are also excellent, but for some reason I never
really got into them when I played them.
> 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
3DO needs a GOOD RPG, not just an RPG! :)
Alex Hsu
: I am taking a survey on what style of rpg the crowd wants. I have several
: options:
: 1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
: style? OR digitized people?
Digitized people would not only cost more, it would look *really* lame
unless it was of extremely high production i.e. good acting, good voices,
no overweight princesses, etc.
Anime style is much more cost effective and will have more of an effect
(see Yu Yu Hakusho intro).
: 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
: star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
: Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
3DO needs a rpg so bad, we'll take anything - but that doesn't mean you
should just throw something together in a couple weeks!
I think fantasy-sf mix ala Phantasy Star or Piers Anthony's Adept series
would be better since all out fantasy/magic/demons are getting to be a
dime a dozen on the 16 bit systems.
: 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
I think if you released a RPG ala Square, your name would be praised a
million-fold on this newsgroup, and a large majority of 3DO owners would
rush out and buy it.
Including the ones who eventually buy the M2.
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Enrique Conty
Eric Thomas <eri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>co...@MCS.COM (Enrique Conty) wrote:
>
>>Yes, no if, ands, or buts about it, especially when there is a grand total
>>of *ONE* RPG available right now (Guardian War).
>
<shrug> Add Slayer and Dragon Tycoon Edge while you're at it, if you want.
I'm talking about more-or-less "traditional" RPGs...
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= I am taking a survey on what style of rpg the crowd wants. I have several
= options:
And I have several opinions.
= 1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
= style? OR digitized people?
Anime seems the best choice. No digitalization. I want a RPG, not Kwest
of the Kombatants.
= 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
= star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
= Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
Since my only 16bit system is a TurboDuo, I have no experience with those
games (unfortunately). My main concern is the story. If it isn't there,
I probably won't want to finish the game, and most definately won't want
to finish it again. I don't care if it the game centers around an ant
trying to overthrow the queen, if it's engaging, I'll play it.
Of course, this is 3DO we're talkin bout here...graphics would help as well.
= 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
More than the Cubs need a pennant.
The Blue One * lui...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu *
Eric Thomas
>In article <3of55e$b...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
>HdT1131879 <hdt11...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
>>style? OR digitized people?
Animie.
>>3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
>Yes, no if, ands, or buts about it, especially when there is a grand total
>of *ONE* RPG available right now (Guardian War).
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T Pancoast
= style? OR digitized people?
Anime implies characters drawn in a certain style. I prefer drawn
characters, but there are other styles I would like to see. Rendered
characters would also be nice. I don't like digitized characters, because
they are rarely well done, but Demolition Man managed it very well, and I
would be VERY happy with a RPG game of that quality. Good quality
digitized characters are the exception, not the rule.
= 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
= star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and
science?
= Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
I was under the impression that the stories of both these games are based
on a mix of science and magic. But to answer the question you intended to
ask, I prefer fantasy. To be exact, I prefer dark and dangerous fantasy.
But if you don't feel like coming up with some "insidious, oppresive evil
in a world where right and wrong are always in question" kind of game,
then the standard "Take over the world" demon would be fine.
= 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
YES...
Shawn Rader
: |>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
: |>style? OR digitized people?
: If its a Japanese game then by all means include Japanese animation
: if not, make it realistic or digitized to make up for the fact that
: you were stupid enough to make a non-Japanese RPG in the first place
: since they make the best ones ;-)
HEY!...ALL OF YOU *AMERICAN BASED* 3DO GAME DEVELOPERS! DON'T LISTEN TO
THIS GUY! HE'S CRAZY!
Seriously though, consider that the vast majority of all 3DO games have
been developed by US based companies, such as Crystal Dynamics, and
Electronic Arts. If all of you people say you want a RPG, but won't buy
an American made one because they are inferior to their Japanese
counterparts, how many do you think will be made for the 3DO?
You should play more PC based RPGs. They are far more involved than
anything on the 16-bit platforms, and 99% of them are made in the US.
Just because you don't like somthing, dosn't mean you have to ruin it for
the rest of us.
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Marcin Szymanski
>
> I am taking a survey on what style of rpg the crowd wants. I have several
>
> 1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
> style? OR digitized people?
I really like the Japanese Anime style. I feel it adds a lot of
atmosphere to the game. Realistic style would be fine, but I would
probably rather not have digitized people, unless they look very good.
> 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
> star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
> Or should it be kept with Demons and holy magic?
Either the FF or the PS way. I don't think these genres should be
mixed. I personally prefer the Phantasy Star settings, with their
cool weapons (such as laser cannons), armor, items, magics, etc. I do
like both styles, though.
> 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
A clear and resounding **YES**!
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Clarke Hicks
>
>3DO NEEDS ULTIMA. Now if only Origin got the message....
Hear, hear.
Yes, if ONLY...
IMO, they should spend less time making an all new game such as Prowler
when they could easily port one of their latest Ultima titles to the
system ( which BADLY needs a REAL RPG!!! - hint hint hint... ).
Whoever is the first to wake up and make a good RPG for the system with
a long, convoluted, and very involving storyline will make a KILLING. In
fact, if Studio 3DO could hire away some veteran RPG makers from some
company, it would be a good way for them to get that extra income they've
been wanting.
Sadly, we've been so deprived for so long, :) I wouldn't be surprised
to see even an average RPG sell well. Oh well, I take comfort in the fact
that eventually somebody will wake up and do what should have been done a
year ago - eventually...
-Clarke-
chi...@mail.utexas.edu
Chris Curry
sha...@teleport.com (Shawn Rader) wrote:
|>Chris Curry (chr...@mindspring.com) wrote:
|>: |>1) Should the characters be all out Japanese Anime style? Or realistic
|>: |>style? OR digitized people?
|>
|>: If its a Japanese game then by all means include Japanese animation
|>: if not, make it realistic or digitized to make up for the fact that
|>: you were stupid enough to make a non-Japanese RPG in the first place
|>: since they make the best ones ;-)
|>
|>HEY!...ALL OF YOU *AMERICAN BASED* 3DO GAME DEVELOPERS! DON'T LISTEN TO
|>THIS GUY! HE'S CRAZY!
Crazy like a fox :-)
|>If all of you people say you want a RPG, but won't buy
|>an American made one because they are inferior to their Japanese
|>counterparts, how many do you think will be made for the 3DO?
Doesn't anyone ever look for ":-)" anymore?
I was kidding, but generally on consoles Japanese RPG's have left
a warm feeling in my heart. Like for the Turbo Duo, classics! :-)
|>You should play more PC based RPGs.
Don't like them generally. :-(
|>Just because you don't like somthing, dosn't mean you have to ruin it for
|>the rest of us.
Awe come on, I was just stating an opinion for goodness sakes.
Its not like its going to bring the world of RPGs dominated by
Japanese or anything just because someone took it upon themselves to
conduct a survey on Usenet.
mil...@usis.com
: style? OR digitized people?
It depends on the theme of the game or the feel you want to develop.
I've always been partial to the anime style when it comes to fantasy.
For pure techno-scifi stuff, some good rendered 3D would be nice.
: 2) Should it be nintendo's final fantasy(fantasy rpg), sega's phantasy
: star (a science type atmosphere) or a mixture of both fantasy and science?
I'd like a good fantasy one. But it's far more important that it's a
quality game. Something with a good plot and professional production.
The theme wouldn't even matter as much.
: 3) Do you think 3do needs an RPG game badly?
Ummm... yes. I'd like it to have the 'Guardian War' feel to its battle
system. That was pretty classic.
-roger
Nick Albright
I'll 3rd that motion! ;) Does anyone know who we could e-mail to get
this point across to them?
Here's to U8 on 3DO!
-Nick
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drawn with bubble eyes, almost no nose, and slits for mouths. Hey, sounds
like an ET. I would like to see animation a la Betrayal At Krondor for
the IBM PC, except, they need to shore up the detail quite a bit to keep
it current.
The Blue One
(CNazareth) wrote:
= I keep doing it and regularly post on the 3DO AOL forum for Ultima on 3DO.
= I've also suggested that Panasonic, Goldstar or Studio 3DO purchase the
= rights to the Ultimas so they can port it over if Origin won't do it. The
= only other option is to bombard EA which owns Origin and see if that works
= but it will all be worth it to get Ultima on 3DO. Well hopefully they will
= get the message.
Nah...there's one more option. I could just go pound on Lord British's
door down the road and try to talk some sense into him. Any guy that has
such kick-ass Halloween parties (so I've heard...been trying to get in for
four years now) should be pretty reasonable.
CNazareth
Origin has a forum on America On-Line. For some reason though they belive
that they could better serve 3DO by putting out shooters and other types
games. There is no effort to get Ultima on 3DO so If you can e-mail them.
I keep doing it and regularly post on the 3DO AOL forum for Ultima on 3DO.
I've also suggested that Panasonic, Goldstar or Studio 3DO purchase the
rights to the Ultimas so they can port it over if Origin won't do it. The
only other option is to bombard EA which owns Origin and see if that works
but it will all be worth it to get Ultima on 3DO. Well hopefully they will
get the message.
Clyde
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>Nick
>Clyde
I would kill for a good ultima port :)
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Trevor Powell
(Nick Albright) wrote:
> In article <3ojr09$b...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> CNazareth <cnaz...@aol.com> wrote:
> >3DO NEEDS ULTIMA. Now if only Origin got the message....
>
> I'll 3rd that motion! ;) Does anyone know who we could e-mail to get
> this point across to them?
>
> Here's to U8 on 3DO!
Um.. not to be a downer, but U8 on the 3DO would be really, really terrible.
Ignoring for a moment that (by all accounts I've heard) U8 on the PC was
really, really, terrible, how do you expect to control the game without a
keyboard? Do you really want to type in all the conversations using the
control pad? That's some serious ick-age.
Don't get me wrong.. I'd love to play another Ultima game (I haven't
played any since Ultima V on my old A][+), but I wouldn't want to play it
on a system that didn't have a keyboard, though I'm sure the 3DO could
easily handle the game from a technical level.
Then again, just imagine how huge its save games would have to be.. (and
people thought that AITD's save games were huge!)
Just some thoughts.
Trevor Powell
Dale Drechsler
on the snes. which for those who haven't seen it was a top down 3/4
perspective adventure. I myself hate rpg type adventures where you dont
actually get to do the fight sequences, I like SNES Zelda,mana type games
where ya can actually feel a bit involved.
CYA
Dale
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Nick Albright
>(Nick Albright) wrote:
>> Here's to U8 on 3DO!
>
>really, really, terrible, how do you expect to control the game without a
Well, I've far from finished it, but I guess I don't consider it bad at
all. I think that U8 would be ideal, because of the new interface, and
the arcade elements (Well, kinda) that they've added in. For a console
audience, that couldn't hurt. ;) Not to mention, assuming that you are
correct, and that for an Ultima, it's horrid (which I disagree with), it
would certainly kick the ass of any other RPG out there for the 3DO.
IMNSHO. = )
>keyboard? Do you really want to type in all the conversations using the
>control pad? That's some serious ick-age.
I believe that with U8 they went over to a totally mouse driven
interface. (Maybe U7 too?) And I could see easy adaption to joypad,
except for possibly picking stuff up. That would be a pain, IMHO, w/out
a mouse. (Moving the cursor across the screen)
>Don't get me wrong.. I'd love to play another Ultima game (I haven't
>played any since Ultima V on my old A][+), but I wouldn't want to play it
>on a system that didn't have a keyboard, though I'm sure the 3DO could
As above, I don't believe that U8 needs the keyboard. = )
>Then again, just imagine how huge its save games would have to be.. (and
>people thought that AITD's save games were huge!)
Yeah, they'd have to learn to make save games a reasonable size :)
>Just some thoughts.
And some more, ;)
Perry Denton
>>keyboard? Do you really want to type in all the conversations using the
>>control pad? That's some serious ick-age.
>
> I believe that with U8 they went over to a totally mouse driven
>interface. (Maybe U7 too?) And I could see easy adaption to joypad,
>except for possibly picking stuff up. That would be a pain, IMHO, w/out
>a mouse. (Moving the cursor across the screen)
For moving the cursor, they could do it like Rampart on the Lynx,
have a button that speeds up the cursor. There are several games that
I wish had that ability.
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CNazareth
mouse interface to highlight key text. So it could be done on 3DO without
a keyboard.
I do however agree that they do need a save game expansion peripheral. I
think U8 take up about 500K for each save game. Don't forget I think the
Ultima Underworlds(Doom with depth) are ideal conversion for the 3DO too.
Clyde
Dale Drechsler
: Nick
: Origin has a forum on America On-Line. For some reason though they belive
: that they could better serve 3DO by putting out shooters and other types
: games. There is no effort to get Ultima on 3DO so If you can e-mail them.
: I keep doing it and regularly post on the 3DO AOL forum for Ultima on 3DO.
: I've also suggested that Panasonic, Goldstar or Studio 3DO purchase the
: rights to the Ultimas so they can port it over if Origin won't do it. The
: only other option is to bombard EA which owns Origin and see if that works
: but it will all be worth it to get Ultima on 3DO. Well hopefully they will
: get the message.
: Clyde
I couldnt agree more, an ultima game on the 3Do would be cool. Hell any
decent adventure would be cool...