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Erland Sommarskog

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Apr 10, 2018, 4:11:02 PM4/10/18
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Welcome to Rotating Quiz 288 and my thanks to Mark Brader for announcing me
as the first deputy in Dan Blum's absence after RQ287.

Beware that this is quiz is a little different from the usual ones, so it
helps to read the rules.

All questions ask for a finite list of items. For a perfect score of 100
points, you should answer with a complete list. Partial credits in
proportion to the total number of items are given. E.g, if a question has
three correct answers, one correct entry will reward you 33 points and two
correct entries gives you 67 points. If there are five correct entries,
you get 20, 40 etc.

There is no penalty for incorrect entries as long as your total number of
entries does not exceed the number of correct answers. For instance, say
that there are six items in the list. Five correct entries gives you 83
points, and so does five correct entries + one incorrect. But five correct
entries + two incorrect entries means that you will only score 67. (Would
there be some edge case that I don't like to count to correct list, but it
is arguably up to interpretation, I may be lenient and not apply a penalty
in this case.)

I plan to score this quiz sometime on Sunday. As always when I run quizzes,
if I need a tie breaker, I will make a subjective judgement of the incorrect
answers.

As always post answers to the newsgroups, and as always rely on your
knowledge only and don't use sources or ask the wife.


1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in Europe
were republics?

2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
since 1923?

4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
Stones as a regular member of the group.

5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
happened on Nov 9th that year.

7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
ruled China for at least 50 years?

9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.


Mark Brader

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Apr 10, 2018, 4:39:11 PM4/10/18
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Erland Sommarskog:
> As always post answers to the newsgroups, and as always rely on your
> knowledge only and don't use sources or ask the wife.

Sex prejudice, that's what it is!

Many answers below are guesses, as you can probably tell.

> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in Europe
> were republics?

Andorra, France, San Marino, Switzerland.

> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

Chinese, English, Malay.

> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?

Australia, UK, US.

> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.

Jagger, Richards.

> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

Hmm. I only know two for sure and I think I'll just go with those.
Hydrogen, nitrogen.

> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.

1989 - "fall of the Berlin Wall"

> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

Are those: A Fistful of Dollars; For a Few Dollars More;
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly?

> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?

Oh gawd, they all sound the same. Ching, Han, Ming, Tang.

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Dan Blum

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Apr 10, 2018, 9:10:25 PM4/10/18
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in Europe
> were republics?

San Marino
France
Spain
Portugal

> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

English
Mandarin
Malay

> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?

USA
United Kingdom
France

> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.

Mick Jagger
Keith Richards

> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

lithium
boron

> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
A Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More

> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?

T'ang
Song
Ming
Manchu


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Peter Smyth

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Apr 11, 2018, 10:05:38 AM4/11/18
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France, Switzerland
> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
English, Tagalog, Cantonese
> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?
USA, Spain, France, Great Britain
> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.
Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman, Brian Jones
> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.
Lithium, Boron, Nitrogen
> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years and the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.
>
> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?
>
> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?
Ming, Han, Yang
> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.
Joseph, Benjamin, Reuben, Simeon, Asher, Gad, Naphtali, Levi, Dan

Peter Smyth

Marc Dashevsky

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Apr 11, 2018, 12:17:44 PM4/11/18
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In article <XnsA8C0E1AAE...@127.0.0.1>, esq...@sommarskog.se says...
Switzerland, France

> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
English, Malay

> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?
Australia, U.S., England, France

> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.
Mick Jagger
Keith Richards
Charlie Watts
Brian Jones
Bill Wyman

> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.
>
> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.
>
> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
A Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More

> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?
>
> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.
Joseph, Benjamin, Judah, Levi, Reuben, Naftali, Gad



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Dan Tilque

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Apr 11, 2018, 11:32:58 PM4/11/18
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France, San Marino, Finland

>
> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

Malay, English, Chinese

>
> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?

United States

>
> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.

Mick Jagger

>
> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

hydrogen, lithium, boron, nitrogen, fluorine, sodium, aluminum, chlorine

>
> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.

Reichtag Fire, 1935
Krystalnacht, 1938

>
> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

A Fist Full of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
High Plains Drifter

>
> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?

Ming
Sung
Tang
Qing

>
> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.

Benjamin
Judah
Dan
Joseph


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Erland Sommarskog

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Apr 15, 2018, 2:59:49 PM4/15/18
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Rotating Quiz 288 is over, and the winner is Mark Brader! Congratulations
Mark, and may we see RQ 289 soon!

Here are the correct answers:

> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in
> Europe republics?

San Marino (since long), Switzerland (since quite long too),
France (since 1871) and Portugal (since 1910).


> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

English, Mandarin/Chinese, Malay and Tamil.


> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?

US (many), Australia (many), France (ten), Sweden (seven), Great Britain
(five), Spain (five).

The reason I set the limit to 1923 is that before that there are entries
for "Australasia" and "British Isles". And, yeah, Great Britain is listed
as such, at least in Wikipedia. But UK works too.

...and no one entered Sweden, sob.


> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The
> Rolling Stones as a regular member of the group.

Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Ronnie Wood, Brian Jones,
Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.


> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

Hydrogen, Lithium, Boron, Nitrogen and Tantalum

Tantalum, who could have guessed? Not me. I learn that there were five
stable odd-odd isotopes in the course in nuclear phyiscs that was part
of my engineering degree, and I recall that the professor said that
it was the five lightest possible. But Dan Tilque's overly ambitious
answer prompted me to check his entries, including flourine, and that
was when I realised I was in trouble. Eventually I found a topic in
Wikipedia with a list of stable isotopes that I had to trawl until I
came to Tantalum. The isotope Tantalum-180m is itself quite weird. There
are at least three ways it could fall apart, and its half-life has
been calculated to be at least 4.5*10^16 years, which is a long time,
but there are radioactive isotopes of which the half-life is far longer.
However, no radioactivity has been observed from Tantalum-180m, so until
this happens, it counts as stable.


> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.

1918-11-09: Emperor Wilhelm II abdicates.
1924-11-08/09: Bier Hall Putch
1938-11-09/10: Kristallnacht, big pogrom against Jews.
1989-11-09: The Berlin Wall was opened.

The Reichstag fire took place in 1933-02-27.


> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by
> Sergio Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

A Fistful Of Dollars
A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly


> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties
> have ruled China for at least 50 years?

Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming and Qing

Reluctantly, I'm accepting "Manchu" for "Qing" as that name is sometimes
used in non-Chinese sources. Also with some reluctance, I'm accepting
"Ching", which is an older spelling from the same system that gave us
"Peking", but some Googling indicates that there still is some usage.

Han was a great dynasty, but that was centuries earlier, before China
fell into pieces.


> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.
>

Reuben, Simeone, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Iassachar,
Zebulun, Joseph, Benjamin.

Before I looked up the answer, I only knew three myself (Levi, Joseph and
Benjamin), and there was more than one name I didn't even recognise
when seeing the list.


Here is the score list:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Total
----------------------------------------------------
Mark B 75 75 50 29 40 25 100 60 0 454
Dan B 75 75 50 29 40 0 100 80 0 449
Marc D 50 50 67 71 0 0 100 0 58 396
Peter S 50 25 67 71 60 0 0 40 75 388
Dan T 50 75 17 14 20 25 67 80 33 381

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Rotating Quiz 288 is over, and the winner is Mark Brader!

What?!?

> Congratulations Mark, and may we see RQ 289 soon!

Okay, I'll see what I can do.

> > 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
>
> English, Mandarin/Chinese, Malay and Tamil.

You know, I *thought* one of the languages of Sri Lanka was official in
Singapore too, but if I'd decided to try, I would've picked the wrong one.

> > 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> > Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> > happened on Nov 9th that year.
>
> 1918-11-09: Emperor Wilhelm II abdicates.
> 1924-11-08/09: Bier Hall Putch
> 1938-11-09/10: Kristallnacht, big pogrom against Jews.
> 1989-11-09: The Berlin Wall was opened.

And I thought Kristallnacht might have been on that date too, but
I figured that if it was, I would've seen it pointed out before.
Oh well.

> > 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by
> > Sergio Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?
>
> A Fistful Of Dollars
> A Few Dollars More
> The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

This is interesting: the exact titles of the first two as shown in the
IMDB are:

Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More (as I gave it)

I don't do Westerns and haven't ever seen them, but I always thought the
first one was "A Fistful of Dollars", as both of us gave it. And the
movie's IMDB page shows a poster where that *is* given as the title.
But apparently that was not the title used onscreen.

Also, before I learned that it was wrong, I used to think that the first
title was

For a Fistful of Dollars

and it turns out that that *is* the correct translation the original
Italian title, "Per un pugno di dollari". Huh.


Thanks.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
>> 1918-11-09: Emperor Wilhelm II abdicates.
>> 1924-11-08/09: Bier Hall Putch
>> 1938-11-09/10: Kristallnacht, big pogrom against Jews.
>> 1989-11-09: The Berlin Wall was opened.
>
> And I thought Kristallnacht might have been on that date too, but
> I figured that if it was, I would've seen it pointed out before.
> Oh well.

From what read recently, the date for Kristallnacht was not chosen
at random, but it was purposely chosen to fit with the 15th anniverserary
of the Bier Hall Putch (and that was how I learned that this event was
also on this date). Whether the date for the Bier Hall Putch was just
a good day that fitted into the plan, or it purposely was chosed to to
match the end of the Kaiser, I don't know. The date in 1989, on the
other hand was just pure occasion.

> I don't do Westerns and haven't ever seen them, but I always thought the
> first one was "A Fistful of Dollars", as both of us gave it. And the
> movie's IMDB page shows a poster where that *is* given as the title.
> But apparently that was not the title used onscreen.
>

This question appeared because I wanted a simple question, one that
three answers and I wanted a movie question (to broaden the quiz). It
took me some time to think about these films. Of which I have only seen
fragments of "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". I actually own a video
cassette of the latter, that friends once gave me for birthday present.
But since I have never owned a video player, I have not had any use for
it.

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
>>> 1918-11-09: Emperor Wilhelm II abdicates.
>>> 1924-11-08/09: Bier Hall Putch
>>> 1938-11-09/10: Kristallnacht, big pogrom against Jews.
>>> 1989-11-09: The Berlin Wall was opened.

Mark Brader:
>> And I thought Kristallnacht might have been on that date too, but
>> I figured that if it was, I would've seen it pointed out before.
>> Oh well.

Erland Sommarskog:
> From what read recently, the date for Kristallnacht was not chosen
> at random, but it was purposely chosen to fit with the 15th anniverserary
> of the Bier Hall Putch (and that was how I learned that this event was
> also on this date)...

15th? Oh, right. the correct date of the putsch was 1923. (Doesn't
matter for contest purposes; nobody gave that answer.)

> The date in 1989, on the other hand was just pure occasion.

Yeah.

> Of which I have only seen
> fragments of "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". I actually own a video
> cassette of the latter, that friends once gave me for birthday present.
> But since I have never owned a video player, I have not had any use for
> it.

The true non-movie-fan!
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Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> > 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by
> > Sergio Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?
>
> A Fistful Of Dollars
> A Few Dollars More
> The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Oh, by the way, I just finished reading a novel whose title is:

The Good, the Bad, and the Emus

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Calvin

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On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 6:11:02 AM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in Europe
> were republics?

France
Switzerland
Turkey

> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?

English
Hindu
Chinese
Malay

> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five occasions
> since 1923?

USA
Australia
France


> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The Rolling
> Stones as a regular member of the group.

Mick Jagger
Keef Richards
Charlie Watts
Brian Jones
Bill Wyman

> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.

Hydrogen

> 6. November 9 is a date on which several important events has happened in
> Germany during the 20th century. Name all years *and* the event that
> happened on Nov 9th that year.
>
> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by Sergio
> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
A Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More

> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties have
> ruled China for at least 50 years?

Ming
Qing
Yuan

> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.

Herod
David

Nice quiz thanks.

cheers,
calvin

Mark Brader

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Apr 18, 2018, 2:36:36 AM4/18/18
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"Calvin":
> Nice quiz thanks.

Nice answer set! Erland can make it official if he wants, but I think
you would've squeezed into the narrow space between the top two finishers.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Apr 18, 2018, 3:18:20 AM4/18/18
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Calvin (334...@gmail.com) writes:
>> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in
>> Europe
>> were republics?
>
> France
> Switzerland
> Turkey

50 points

>> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
>
> English
> Hindu
> Chinese
> Malay
>

75 points.


>> 3. Which countries have won Davis Cup in tennis on at least five
>> occasions
>> since 1923?
>
> USA
> Australia
> France

50 points.

>> 4. Name all persons who have appeared on an original album with The
>> Rolling
>> Stones as a regular member of the group.
>
> Mick Jagger
> Keef Richards
> Charlie Watts
> Brian Jones
> Bill Wyman

71 points.

>
>> 5. List all elements of which there exists stable isotopes with both odd
>> number of protons and odd number of neutrons.
>
> Hydrogen

20 points.

>> 7. Which where the films in the "Man with no Name" series directed by
>> Sergio
>> Leonoe and starring Clint Eastwood?
>
> The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
> A Fistful of Dollars
> For a Few Dollars More

100 points

>
>> 8. Since the reunification of China in the 6th century, which dynasties
>> have
>> ruled China for at least 50 years?
>
> Ming
> Qing
> Yuan

60 points

>> 9. Name the sons of the biblical patriarch Jacob.
>
> Herod
> David
>

Alas, zero points.

That gives a total of 426 points, enough to put Calvin in third place.

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> That gives a total of 426 points, enough to put Calvin in third place.

Right, I was wrong before. Sorry.
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Calvin

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I didn't realise it was a late entry since RQ289 did not have its own thread. I would not have submitted had I known. So thanks for marking it.

And it's great to see people still coming up with original and entertaining formats. Might one specify the number of correct answers I wonder?

cheers,
calvin

Calvin

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Apr 18, 2018, 9:21:16 PM4/18/18
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On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 5:18:20 PM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Calvin (334...@gmail.com) writes:
> >> 1. At the outbreak of World War I, which of the independent states in
> >> Europe
> >> were republics?
> >
> > France
> > Switzerland
> > Turkey
>
> 50 points
>
> >> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
> >
> > English
> > Hindu
> > Chinese
> > Malay
> >
>
> 75 points.

Dammit. I was tossing up whether to put Mandarin, Cantonese or Chinese, but alas there is no generic term for Indian languages.

cheers,
calvin

Mark Brader

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Apr 18, 2018, 9:42:08 PM4/18/18
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"Calvin":
> I didn't realise it was a late entry since RQ289 did not have its own
> thread.

That's your newsreader's fault; I reposted it in a new thread right
after the original posting.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Calvin (334...@gmail.com) writes:
>> >> 2. Which are the official languages of Singapore?
>> >
>> > English
>> > Hindu
>> > Chinese
>> > Malay
>> >
>>
>> 75 points.
>
> Dammit. I was tossing up whether to put Mandarin, Cantonese or Chinese,
> but alas there is no generic term for Indian languages.
>

Had any one asked me before I started to read up on Singapore as a
preparation for a few days of holiday there on my way to a country
about which you ran a quiz on last year, I would never guess Tamil.
Hindu does indeed seem like a more reasonable guess.

As for Chinese, I don't really see it as a generic term, at least
not in a context like this - it is the same as Mandarin. Cantonese,
on the other hand, is a different language. Nevermind that in written
form, you will have to good knowledge to tell mother tongue of the
speaker.

Erland Sommarskog

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Apr 19, 2018, 2:54:57 PM4/19/18
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Calvin (334...@gmail.com) writes:
> And it's great to see people still coming up with original and
> entertaining formats. Might one specify the number of correct answers I
> wonder?

Of course, I could have done that, and it would have saved me from
stating rules on penalties.

However, the way this idea evolved over the years (I don't get the
oppurtunity to run RQs that often, so I get plenty of time to
refine my ideas), is that it started with a regular plain question:
"How many states in Europe were republics at the outbreak of World
War I". Then by time, I thought it was more interest to ask which
they were and it went on. So I decided to keep the number secret.

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