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Mark Brader
Jan 20, 2015, 10:59:32 AM1/20/15
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This set of current-events rounds is running concurrently with
Game 10, Rounds 4,6 (and later with Rounds 7-8) of last season.
The current-events rounds of this season will be treated as a
separate game.
These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on the dates
indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
give the answers that were correct on those dates.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2014-09-15
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".
* Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
"I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
the team for the rest of this season?
3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
to what?
5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
structure. What is the change?
6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
Revere was opened -- in which city?
9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
urged him to return home.
* Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
"the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
has died at the age of 83?
2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
North Korea's hacker army?
5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
(The short form will suffice.)
8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
for this fizzled experiment?
10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "...This is due to the Coincidence effect,
m...@vex.net | more so than the Coriolis." -- Cindy Kandolf
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Game 10, Rounds 4,6 (and later with Rounds 7-8) of last season.
The current-events rounds of this season will be treated as a
separate game.
These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on the dates
indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
give the answers that were correct on those dates.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2014-09-15
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".
* Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
"I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
the team for the rest of this season?
3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
to what?
5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
structure. What is the change?
6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
Revere was opened -- in which city?
9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
urged him to return home.
* Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
"the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
has died at the age of 83?
2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
North Korea's hacker army?
5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
(The short form will suffice.)
8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
for this fizzled experiment?
10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "...This is due to the Coincidence effect,
m...@vex.net | more so than the Coriolis." -- Cindy Kandolf
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Blum
Jan 20, 2015, 11:50:59 AM1/20/15
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> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
Boston
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Peter Smyth
Jan 20, 2015, 1:40:34 PM1/20/15
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> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
>
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
>
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
Littering
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
>
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
>
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
It is floating on the stock market
> structure. What is the change?
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
Quebec
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
>
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
>
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
>
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
>
>
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
>
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> It has been a bad week for aging beauties. She won the job
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
>
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
>
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
>
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
>
>
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
>
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> by successfully milking a goat at the audition. Millions of
> teen-aged pulses raced when she sashayed past in her role as Elly
> Mae Clampett. Who was this actress, who died last week aged 82?
>
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
20, 30
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
>
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
Boko Haram
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
>
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
Ford
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
>
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
>
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
Clint Dempsey? (I think you mean Sunderland not Sutherland, I fear
> (The short form will suffice.)
>
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
>
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
Brora Rangers FC wouldn't be big enough for him.)
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Philippines
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Peter Smyth
Marc Dashevsky
Jan 20, 2015, 1:45:07 PM1/20/15
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In article <somdnXowZNb-5iPJ...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
>
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
>
>
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
Anita Ekberg
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
30
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
Tina Fey
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
Boko Haram
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
>
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
>
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
Rex Ryan (I'm glad the Pats will continue to face him twice each season)
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
>
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Philippines
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
>
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
>
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
>
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
>
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
>
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
>
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
>
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
>
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
Boston
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
>
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
>
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
>
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
>
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
>
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
>
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
>
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
>
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
>
>
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> It has been a bad week for aging beauties. She won the job
> by successfully milking a goat at the audition. Millions of
> teen-aged pulses raced when she sashayed past in her role as Elly
> Mae Clampett. Who was this actress, who died last week aged 82?
Donna Douglas
> by successfully milking a goat at the audition. Millions of
> teen-aged pulses raced when she sashayed past in her role as Elly
> Mae Clampett. Who was this actress, who died last week aged 82?
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
>
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
>
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
>
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 20, 2015, 4:44:43 PM1/20/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
Charb
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
> ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
> grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
> Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
Ekberg. Sorry.
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
I can't say that I heard of the guy before, so I only remember
fragments of it.
Sergio Confino?
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se
Joshua Kreitzer
Jan 20, 2015, 8:50:11 PM1/20/15
to
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:somdnXowZNb-5iPJnZ2dnUU7-
KOd...@vex.net:
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
Charb
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
it will now have a majority of private ownership
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
Boston
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
Anita Ekberg
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
> ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
> grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
> Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
Donna Douglas
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
150; 195
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
Tina Fey
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
Boko Haram
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Sri Lanka
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
KOd...@vex.net:
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
> ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
> grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
> Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Pete
Jan 22, 2015, 11:56:43 PM1/22/15
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> This set of current-events rounds is running concurrently with
> Game 10, Rounds 4,6 (and later with Rounds 7-8) of last season.
> The current-events rounds of this season will be treated as a
> separate game.
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on the dates
> indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
> answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
> give the answers that were correct on those dates.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2014-09-15
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
Charb
> Game 10, Rounds 4,6 (and later with Rounds 7-8) of last season.
> The current-events rounds of this season will be treated as a
> separate game.
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on the dates
> indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
> answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
> give the answers that were correct on those dates.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2014-09-15
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
>
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
>
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
>
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
>
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
>
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
>
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
>
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
>
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
>
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
>
>
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
>
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
>
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> Vg unf orra n onq jrrx sbe ntvat ornhgvrf. Fur jba gur wbo
> ol fhpprffshyyl zvyxvat n tbng ng gur nhqvgvba. Zvyyvbaf bs
> grra-ntrq chyfrf enprq jura fur fnfunlrq cnfg va ure ebyr nf Ryyl
> Znr Pynzcrgg. Jub jnf guvf npgerff, jub qvrq ynfg jrrx ntrq 82?
>
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
>
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
>
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
>
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
>
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
>
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
>
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
>
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
>
Pete
Mark Brader
Jan 23, 2015, 12:57:43 PM1/23/15
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Mark Brader:
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
Peter Horachek.
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
Slovakia. 4 for Erland.
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
Rush-hour no-parking zones.
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
To allow include smaller or craft breweries in the organization.
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
Hong Kong.
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
Sylvio Berlusconi's tax-fraud conviction could have been overturned.
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
Boston. 4 for Dan, Marc, Erland, Joshua, and Pete.
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
Kevin Vickers.
Last October he was serving as the parliamentary sergeant-at-arms
when a crazed gunman made a terrorist-style attack, shooting dead
a soldier on ceremonial duty outside the building and then shooting
his way past the security barrier to get inside. Vickers ended the
event decisively by shooting the attacker dead.
Here's what the Washington Post had to say about him:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/23/thank-god-for-sgt-at-arms-kevin-vickers-canadas-new-national-hero/
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
Alexis Navalny. 4 for Erland.
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
Anita Ekberg. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, and Pete.
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
133 (accepting 128-138).
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
Tina Fey, Amy Poehler. 4 for Dan, Marc, Joshua, and Pete.
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
Boko Haram (not Harum and certainly not Harem, but I didn't worry
about that). 4 for everyone -- Dan, Peter, Marc, Erland, Joshua,
and Pete.
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
Senator Art Eggleton.
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
Toronto District School Board (TDSB).
Wilson was reviewing the board on behalf of the provincial government.
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
Rex Ryan. 4 for Marc and Pete.
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
Jozy Altidore. 4 for Pete.
As Peter noted, that was supposed to be Sunderland.
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Sri Lanka. 4 for Joshua. 2 for Dan.
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAMES-> 1 2 TOTALS
Pete Gayde 8 24 32
Joshua Kreitzer 8 20 28
Erland Sommarskog 16 8 24
Marc Dashevsky 4 20 24
Dan Blum 4 10 14
Peter Smyth 4 4 8
--
Mark Brader "It is always dangerous to send authors to jail.
Toronto This removes their chief excuse for not writing."
m...@vex.net -- Arthur C. Clarke
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on the dates
> indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
> answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
> give the answers that were correct on those dates... For further
> indicated below, and should be interpreted accordingly. If any
> answers have changed due to newer news, you are still expected to
> information see my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions
> from the Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
Stéphane Charbonnier, Charb. 4 for Peter, Erland, Joshua, and Pete.
> from the Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
> * Game 1 (2015-01-12), Round 1 - Current Events
> 1. When the offices of "Charlie Hebdo" were attacked, the
> editor-in-chief was the first to die. Famously, he had stated:
> "I would rather die standing up than live on my knees".
> Give his name or the nickname he signed his work with.
> 2. In an effort to end the reign of terrible play, the Toronto Maple
> Leafs let their coach go. Who is the man tasked with running
> the team for the rest of this season?
> 3. What hockey minnow won only its second-ever medal in this event
> by finishing third in the recent World Junior Hockey tournament?
> 4. Starting January 5, the Toronto Police, under John Tory's
> direction, commenced stricter enforcement of the bylaw relating
> to what?
> 5. The Beer Store announced a major change to its ownership
> structure. What is the change?
> 6. The electoral action plan entitled "2017: Seize the Opportunity"
> was met with widespread condemnation on its release last week.
> It was opposed by politician and voters -- in which jurisdiction?
> 7. Fear of what consequence caused the Italian government to
> suddenly suspend its proposed new tax-reform legislation?
> 8. A 220-year-old time capsule found under the State House
> containing coins, documents, and a silver plate made by Paul
> Revere was opened -- in which city?
> 9. Known for his decisive action in the Houses of Parliament,
> this Canadian has received an entirely unexpected appointment
> as our ambassador to Ireland. Give his name.
Last October he was serving as the parliamentary sergeant-at-arms
when a crazed gunman made a terrorist-style attack, shooting dead
a soldier on ceremonial duty outside the building and then shooting
his way past the security barrier to get inside. Vickers ended the
event decisively by shooting the attacker dead.
Here's what the Washington Post had to say about him:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/23/thank-god-for-sgt-at-arms-kevin-vickers-canadas-new-national-hero/
> 10. How secure is a security-monitoring bracelet? (No, that's not
> your question.) Not very, it seems. Name the Russian anti-Putin
> blogger and activist who cut his off with kitchen scissors,
> then went on a break from house arrest as his guards loudly
> urged him to return home.
> * Game 2 (2015-01-19), Round 1 - Current Events
> 1. Which star of "La Dolce Vita", who Bob Hope once described as
> "the best thing to come out of Sweden since smorgasbord",
> has died at the age of 83?
> 2. Please complete the last question before decoding the rot13.
> It has been a bad week for aging beauties. She won the job
> by successfully milking a goat at the audition. Millions of
> teen-aged pulses raced when she sashayed past in her role as Elly
> Mae Clampett. Who was this actress, who died last week aged 82?
Donna Douglas. 4 for Marc, Joshua, and Pete.
> by successfully milking a goat at the audition. Millions of
> teen-aged pulses raced when she sashayed past in her role as Elly
> Mae Clampett. Who was this actress, who died last week aged 82?
> 3. Target announced this week a full-scale retreat from Canada.
> Tell us how many stores will be closing, plus or minus 5.
> 4. Name either one of the co-hosts for the Golden Globe Awards,
> who used their rapier wits on targets such as Bill Cosby and
> North Korea's hacker army?
> 5. Name the group which is disrupting forthcoming elections in
> Nigeria, in part by massacring thousands of voters in Baga.
about that). 4 for everyone -- Dan, Peter, Marc, Erland, Joshua,
and Pete.
> 6. Which former Toronto mayor has been named to head current mayor
> John Tory's task force on affordable housing?
> 7. Which GTA institution was panned by Margaret Wilson this week?
> (The short form will suffice.)
Wilson was reviewing the board on behalf of the provincial government.
> 8. Who is the bombastic new coach of the Buffalo Bills?
> 9. So, soccer fans, Jermain Defoe has gone back to Sutherland.
> Boo hoo. Which American player did Toronto FC receive in return
> for this fizzled experiment?
As Peter noted, that was supposed to be Sunderland.
> 10. In the spirit of ecumenicalism, Pope Francis accepted the
> invitation to share sincerity with the leader of a Buddhist
> congregation. In which island country did this take place?
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAMES-> 1 2 TOTALS
Pete Gayde 8 24 32
Joshua Kreitzer 8 20 28
Erland Sommarskog 16 8 24
Marc Dashevsky 4 20 24
Dan Blum 4 10 14
Peter Smyth 4 4 8
--
Mark Brader "It is always dangerous to send authors to jail.
Toronto This removes their chief excuse for not writing."
m...@vex.net -- Arthur C. Clarke
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 23, 2015, 4:28:36 PM1/23/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Sylvio Berlusconi's tax-fraud conviction could have been overturned.
Silvio.
> Sylvio Berlusconi's tax-fraud conviction could have been overturned.
In both English and Italian i and y are pronounced the same (but y is not
very common in Italian). In Swedish they are not, so we are very sensitive
to mixups. :-)
Mark Brader
Jan 23, 2015, 7:26:28 PM1/23/15
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Mark Brader:
> Silvio.
Right, I knew that.
> In both English and Italian i and y are pronounced the same...
No. I in English has fairly two common pronunciations, short I
("bit") and long I ("bite"), and it can also sound like long E,
mostly in words of foreign origin ("mi", pronounced like "me").
Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
(technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
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> > Sylvio Berlusconi's tax-fraud conviction could have been overturned.
Erland Sommarskog:
> Silvio.
Right, I knew that.
> In both English and Italian i and y are pronounced the same...
No. I in English has fairly two common pronunciations, short I
("bit") and long I ("bite"), and it can also sound like long E,
mostly in words of foreign origin ("mi", pronounced like "me").
Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
(technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
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Dan Tilque
Jan 24, 2015, 12:11:35 AM1/24/15
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
> ("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
> but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> (technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
Someone named Daniel disagrees with that last statement.
> Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
> ("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
> but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> (technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 24, 2015, 8:06:43 AM1/24/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> No. I in English has fairly two common pronunciations, short I
> ("bit") and long I ("bite"), and it can also sound like long E,
> mostly in words of foreign origin ("mi", pronounced like "me").
> Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
> ("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
> but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> (technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
>
That is mainly a convention. There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow",
> No. I in English has fairly two common pronunciations, short I
> ("bit") and long I ("bite"), and it can also sound like long E,
> mostly in words of foreign origin ("mi", pronounced like "me").
> Y in English has the last two of those as common pronunciations
> ("by", "navy"), and occasionally has the first one ("lynch"),
> but it has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> (technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
>
"laier" or "pai". But there is "iod" and "paid". The change between y and i
in the later case is as far as I recall a remnant of conventions employed
by the handwriting of monks.
Mark Brader
Jan 24, 2015, 10:57:49 AM1/24/15
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Mark Brader:
> > but [Y] has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow", "laier" or "pai".
> But there is "iod"
If there is, I never heard of it (but I have hard of "yod" or "yodh",
a letter in the Hebrew alphabet). And I was only talking about spellings
in common or moderately common use.
> and "paid".
I was only listing cases where the letter represents a sound of its own.
"Paid" has a single vowel sound, long A, represented by "ai" (and which
could also be represented by "ay", as in "pay", or A alone, as in "mate").
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Toronto | saw a giant egg broken into pieces, their response would
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> > but [Y] has an additional common pronunciation as a consonant
> > (technically a semivowel) as in "you", which is not possible for I.
Erland Sommarskog:
> That is mainly a convention.
Yes, we're talking about conventional spelling.
> There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow", "laier" or "pai".
> But there is "iod"
a letter in the Hebrew alphabet). And I was only talking about spellings
in common or moderately common use.
> and "paid".
I was only listing cases where the letter represents a sound of its own.
"Paid" has a single vowel sound, long A, represented by "ai" (and which
could also be represented by "ay", as in "pay", or A alone, as in "mate").
--
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Toronto | saw a giant egg broken into pieces, their response would
m...@vex.net | be: "Hey! Let's try to reassemble this!"? --Dave Barry
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 24, 2015, 11:43:02 AM1/24/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog:
> (but I have hard of "yod" or "yodh",a letter in the Hebrew alphabet).
And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
>> and "paid".
>
> I was only listing cases where the letter represents a sound of its own.
> "Paid" has a single vowel sound, long A, represented by "ai" (and which
> could also be represented by "ay", as in "pay", or A alone, as in "mate").
[pA:]? So, I have never been to Toronto, so I don't know how you speak
there, but in the varity of English I have learnt there is no long vowel
in "pay" or "paid". There is a diphtong, and it is the same diphtong
as in "mate". Presumably, "mate" originally had a long vowel, but "pay"
never had one in the English language that I know.
> Yes, we're talking about conventional spelling.
Obviously, else I would have not remarked on the misspelling of signore
Berlusconi's first name.
What I wanted to say is that in Italian and English (and French) "i"
and "y" are interchangable in the sense that if you replace one with
the other, there is no systematic change in pronounciation, and this
could explain the misspelling.
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow", "laier" or "pai".
>> But there is "iod"
>
> If there is, I never heard of it
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iod
>> But there is "iod"
>
> If there is, I never heard of it
> (but I have hard of "yod" or "yodh",a letter in the Hebrew alphabet).
And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
>> and "paid".
>
> I was only listing cases where the letter represents a sound of its own.
> "Paid" has a single vowel sound, long A, represented by "ai" (and which
> could also be represented by "ay", as in "pay", or A alone, as in "mate").
there, but in the varity of English I have learnt there is no long vowel
in "pay" or "paid". There is a diphtong, and it is the same diphtong
as in "mate". Presumably, "mate" originally had a long vowel, but "pay"
never had one in the English language that I know.
> Yes, we're talking about conventional spelling.
Berlusconi's first name.
What I wanted to say is that in Italian and English (and French) "i"
and "y" are interchangable in the sense that if you replace one with
the other, there is no systematic change in pronounciation, and this
could explain the misspelling.
Mark Brader
Jan 24, 2015, 12:43:07 PM1/24/15
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Erland Sommarskog:
>>> There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow", "laier" or "pai".
>>> But there is "iod"
Mark Brader:
>>> There are no words spelled "iou", "iellow", "laier" or "pai".
>>> But there is "iod"
>> If there is, I never heard of it
Erland Sommarskog:
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iod
That's a prefix, not a word, and is two syllables, with a long I.
>> (but I have hard of "yod" or "yodh",a letter in the Hebrew alphabet).
>
> And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
>>> and "paid".
>> I was only listing cases where the letter represents a sound of its own.
>> "Paid" has a single vowel sound, long A, represented by "ai" (and which
>> could also be represented by "ay", as in "pay", or A alone, as in "mate").
>
> in "pay" or "paid". There is a diphtong, and it is the same diphtong
> as in "mate".
Correct -- but in English that diphthong is considered a single vowel
> as in "mate".
sound and its name is "long A". (Not all English-speakers learn this
name.)
> What I wanted to say is that in Italian and English (and French) "i"
> and "y" are interchangable in the sense that if you replace one with
And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
it works in many cases.
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Erland Sommarskog
Jan 24, 2015, 2:47:50 PM1/24/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
>> And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
>
> Three syllables, with a long I.
I was not aware of this. Please keep in mind that I am not a native
>> And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
>
> Three syllables, with a long I.
speaker of English. It is not uncommon among foreign speakers to assume
that a certain pattern applies in some situation in the highly irregular
English language.
The pronounciation of "iota" and "iod" are surprising, given their
origins. Then again, in the case of "iota", I don't know the
original Greek pronouciation.
> Correct -- but in English that diphthong is considered a single vowel
> sound and its name is "long A". (Not all English-speakers learn this
> name.)
a language that has a long A. Or to someone with a knowledge of phonetics.
Now, words like "father", "far" and "fast" - there you have words with a
long A. (In the latter case, not among all English speakers, though.)
> And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
> it works in many cases.
idea of that "y" has a pronounciation which is not possible for "i".
Dan(iel) pointed one counter-example. Other examples are words like
"saviour" and "behaviour".
Mark Brader
Jan 24, 2015, 5:24:52 PM1/24/15
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Erland Sommarskog:
(Please don't take this as nasty.)
>> Correct -- but in English that diphthong
(By the way, that's "phth" because the Greek word for "tongue" starts
with phi-theta. Not my idea!)
>> is considered a single vowel sound and its name is "long A".
>> (Not all English-speakers learn this name.)
> Of course not, since it is name which is plain nonsense to speakers of
> a language that has a long A....
No, practices relating to foreign languages are completely irrelevant.
I think the reason it's not always taught is that only five or six
vowel pairs are covered by the English "long" and "short" designations,
and additionally, many American dialects don't have one of those sounds
(short O). So the system is a poor match for the range of vowels
sounds in English.
But it does allow for the simple rule that, in many short words not of
recent foreign origin, a silent final E indicates that the other vowel
is long when it would otherwise be short -- bat/bate, met/mete, sit/site,
hop/hope, jut/jute.
>> And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
>> it works in many cases.
>
> Yes, as we have noted there are a few exceptions. But nor does your
> idea of that "y" has a pronounciation which is not possible for "i".
> Dan(iel) pointed one counter-example. Other examples are words like
> "saviour" and "behaviour".
Well, for me the I each of those "really" has a long E sound, giving
one more syllable in each case, though it may be reduced to a Y sound
in rapid speech and I concede that some people may reduce it in all
cases.
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>>> And speaking of names of letters there is "iota".
Mark Brader:
>> Three syllables, with a long I.
Erland Sommarskog:
> Please keep in mind that I am not a native speaker of English.
Which makes some of the statements you make sound a bit presumptuous.
(Please don't take this as nasty.)
>> Correct -- but in English that diphthong
with phi-theta. Not my idea!)
>> is considered a single vowel sound and its name is "long A".
>> (Not all English-speakers learn this name.)
> Of course not, since it is name which is plain nonsense to speakers of
No, practices relating to foreign languages are completely irrelevant.
I think the reason it's not always taught is that only five or six
vowel pairs are covered by the English "long" and "short" designations,
and additionally, many American dialects don't have one of those sounds
(short O). So the system is a poor match for the range of vowels
sounds in English.
But it does allow for the simple rule that, in many short words not of
recent foreign origin, a silent final E indicates that the other vowel
is long when it would otherwise be short -- bat/bate, met/mete, sit/site,
hop/hope, jut/jute.
>> And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
>> it works in many cases.
>
> Yes, as we have noted there are a few exceptions. But nor does your
> idea of that "y" has a pronounciation which is not possible for "i".
> Dan(iel) pointed one counter-example. Other examples are words like
> "saviour" and "behaviour".
one more syllable in each case, though it may be reduced to a Y sound
in rapid speech and I concede that some people may reduce it in all
cases.
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Dan Blum
Jan 24, 2015, 5:53:23 PM1/24/15
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> >> And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
> >> it works in many cases.
> >
> > Yes, as we have noted there are a few exceptions. But nor does your
> > idea of that "y" has a pronounciation which is not possible for "i".
> > Dan(iel) pointed one counter-example. Other examples are words like
> > "saviour" and "behaviour".
> Well, for me the I each of those "really" has a long E sound, giving
> one more syllable in each case, though it may be reduced to a Y sound
> in rapid speech and I concede that some people may reduce it in all
> cases.
I think you'll find that the standard pronunciations are as Erland
> >> And what I wanted to say is that it's not that simple, although admittedly
> >> it works in many cases.
> >
> > Yes, as we have noted there are a few exceptions. But nor does your
> > idea of that "y" has a pronounciation which is not possible for "i".
> > Dan(iel) pointed one counter-example. Other examples are words like
> > "saviour" and "behaviour".
> Well, for me the I each of those "really" has a long E sound, giving
> one more syllable in each case, though it may be reduced to a Y sound
> in rapid speech and I concede that some people may reduce it in all
> cases.
describes. I can't find a single dictionary that lists them with the
extra syllable, and in fact they all show the "y" consonantal sound,
although this is indicated in a few ways.
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 24, 2015, 5:55:55 PM1/24/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
>>> (Not all English-speakers learn this name.)
>
>> Of course not, since it is name which is plain nonsense to speakers of
>> a language that has a long A....
>
> No, practices relating to foreign languages are completely irrelevant.
Hardly. Don't teach people things that would only confuse them. And
>>> (Not all English-speakers learn this name.)
>
>> Of course not, since it is name which is plain nonsense to speakers of
>> a language that has a long A....
>
> No, practices relating to foreign languages are completely irrelevant.
which disagrees with the general terminology in phonetics.
> But it does allow for the simple rule that, in many short words not of
> recent foreign origin, a silent final E indicates that the other vowel
> is long when it would otherwise be short -- bat/bate, met/mete, sit/site,
> hop/hope, jut/jute.
convince yourself of by looking up the words in a dictionary that gives
you the phonetic transscription according to the IPA.
Yes, once upon a time the vowels were long, and there may still be
archaic dialects on the British Isles where you can encounter this. But in
standard varities of modern English, there are no long vowels in "bate" or
"site" or "hope".
Mark Brader
Jan 24, 2015, 5:59:35 PM1/24/15
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Erland Sommarskog:
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> Of these words only "mete" and "jute" has long vowels, which you can
> convince yourself of by looking up the words in a dictionary that gives
> you the phonetic transscription according to the IPA.
Entirely irrrelevant.
> convince yourself of by looking up the words in a dictionary that gives
> you the phonetic transscription according to the IPA.
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Erland Sommarskog
Jan 25, 2015, 5:52:12 AM1/25/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> Of these words only "mete" and "jute" has long vowels, which you can
>> convince yourself of by looking up the words in a dictionary that gives
>> you the phonetic transscription according to the IPA.
>
> Entirely irrrelevant.
Of course, it may be entirely irrelevant to you. However, I would still
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> Of these words only "mete" and "jute" has long vowels, which you can
>> convince yourself of by looking up the words in a dictionary that gives
>> you the phonetic transscription according to the IPA.
>
> Entirely irrrelevant.
advice you to keep this in mind when you talk with people with a background
in different languages, or who have a knowledge of linguistics, as your
usage conflicts with the regular technical usage.
Mark Brader
Jan 25, 2015, 1:27:35 PM1/25/15
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Erland Sommarskog:
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> Of course, it may be entirely irrelevant to you. However, I would still
> advice you to keep this in mind when you talk with people with a background
> in different languages, or who have a knowledge of linguistics, as your
> usage conflicts with the regular technical usage.
Of course, but we aren't talking about linguistics technical usage here.
> advice you to keep this in mind when you talk with people with a background
> in different languages, or who have a knowledge of linguistics, as your
> usage conflicts with the regular technical usage.
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Erland Sommarskog
Jan 25, 2015, 2:12:37 PM1/25/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> Of course, it may be entirely irrelevant to you. However, I would still
>> advice you to keep this in mind when you talk with people with a
>> background in different languages, or who have a knowledge of
>> linguistics, as your usage conflicts with the regular technical usage.
>
> Of course, but we aren't talking about linguistics technical usage here.
Well I am, obviously.
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> Of course, it may be entirely irrelevant to you. However, I would still
>> advice you to keep this in mind when you talk with people with a
>> background in different languages, or who have a knowledge of
>> linguistics, as your usage conflicts with the regular technical usage.
>
> Of course, but we aren't talking about linguistics technical usage here.
But, true, a name is a name, and you can call something "long A" event when
it's not. And if a lot of people adhere to that usage, well, that is how
language is defined.
And this certainly not the only example of when the terminology among
people in general conflicts with those have knowledge in a certain
field. For instance, most people would consider "20th century" to be
the period 1900-1999, regardless of that some people think this is
wrong because it would make the first century to have 99 years.
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