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Marc Dashevsky
Jan 21, 2014, 9:53:29 PM1/21/14
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RQ #128
I will publish the results on the evening (Central U.S. time) of Monday,
January 27.
Part I
Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed. A lake
may have fresh water or salt water, but I am considering the Caspian Sea
to be a sea, not a lake. Also excluded from consideration are lakes that
exist as a result of human construction.
I have excluded Australia because some of the lakes considered to be the
largest are ephemeral, filling only during the rainy season. There is lots
of room for disagreement, and I found no authority in which I was confident.
1. Asia
2. Africa
3. North America
4. South America
5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
6. Europe
Part II
Identify the second-highest mountain on each continent listed.
1. Asia
2. Africa
3. North America
4. South America
5. Antarctic
6. Europe
7. Australia
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Mark Brader
Jan 21, 2014, 11:57:17 PM1/21/14
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Marc Dashevsky:
> Part I
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed...
> 1. Asia
Baikal.
> 2. Africa
Tanganyika.
> 3. North America
Great Bear (counting Huron and Michigan as being separate lakes).
> 4. South America
Titicaca (not that I believe it).
> 5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
> lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
Vostok.
> 6. Europe
Constance.
> Part II
> Identify the second-highest mountain on each continent listed.
>
> 1. Asia
K2, sometimes called Godwin Austen.
> 2. Africa
Kenya.
> 3. North America
McKinley, sometimes called Denali.
> 4. South America
Aconcagua (which is wrong).
> 5. Antarctic
Erebus (which is wrong).
> 6. Europe
Mont-Blanc (counting Elbrus as being in Europe).
> 7. Australia
Perisher.
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| things to each other!" -- Ria, "Butterflies"
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> Part I
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed...
> 1. Asia
Baikal.
> 2. Africa
Tanganyika.
> 3. North America
Great Bear (counting Huron and Michigan as being separate lakes).
> 4. South America
Titicaca (not that I believe it).
> 5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
> lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
> 6. Europe
Constance.
> Part II
> Identify the second-highest mountain on each continent listed.
>
> 1. Asia
> 2. Africa
Kenya.
> 3. North America
McKinley, sometimes called Denali.
> 4. South America
Aconcagua (which is wrong).
> 5. Antarctic
Erebus (which is wrong).
> 6. Europe
Mont-Blanc (counting Elbrus as being in Europe).
> 7. Australia
Perisher.
--
Mark Brader | "You read war books -- people shooting each other,
Toronto | people bombing each other, people torturing each
m...@vex.net | other. I like to look at people doing, uh, naughty
| things to each other!" -- Ria, "Butterflies"
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 22, 2014, 3:44:28 PM1/22/14
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Marc Dashevsky (use...@MarcDashevsky.com) writes:
> 1. Asia
After your disqualification of the Caspian, the Aral Sea would have been
#1 if you had asked the question 50 years ago. But these days, maybe one
of the two remnants are #2 after Lake Baikal. If they have not dried up
entirely.
Anyway, I go for Lake Baikal.
> 2. Africa
Lake Malawi
> 3. North America
Me and the great lakes... Please don't laugh when I pick one at random:
Lake Huron
> 4. South America
I would guess on that lake in Venezuela which is on sea level, but
still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
> 6. Europe
Vänern
> 1. Asia
K2
> 2. Africa
Mount Kenya
> 3. North America
Mount Rainier
> 6. Europe
Mont Blanc
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Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se
> 1. Asia
After your disqualification of the Caspian, the Aral Sea would have been
#1 if you had asked the question 50 years ago. But these days, maybe one
of the two remnants are #2 after Lake Baikal. If they have not dried up
entirely.
Anyway, I go for Lake Baikal.
> 2. Africa
Lake Malawi
> 3. North America
Me and the great lakes... Please don't laugh when I pick one at random:
Lake Huron
> 4. South America
I would guess on that lake in Venezuela which is on sea level, but
still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
> 6. Europe
Vänern
> 1. Asia
K2
> 2. Africa
Mount Kenya
> 3. North America
Mount Rainier
> 6. Europe
Mont Blanc
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Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se
Mark Brader
Jan 22, 2014, 4:35:57 PM1/22/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
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> I would guess on that lake in Venezuela which is on sea level, but
> still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
Arrrgh! Maracaibo. I should have thought of that.
> still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
--
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m...@vex.net | listening to you or understanding what you're saying:
Toronto | I'm doing all three at the same time." -- Aaron Sorkin
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 22, 2014, 5:30:56 PM1/22/14
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> I would guess on that lake in Venezuela which is on sea level, but
>> still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
>
> Arrrgh! Maracaibo. I should have thought of that.
I checked my atlas which has a list of these things per continent, and
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> I would guess on that lake in Venezuela which is on sea level, but
>> still has sweet water. The name? That I don't recall.
>
> Arrrgh! Maracaibo. I should have thought of that.
according to the atlas, the answer is a lake never heard of.
Looking at the map, Maracaibo is clearly bigger than that lake, so
apparently the atlas does not count it as a lake. But you can always
hope that Marc counts Maracaibo as a lake, because it is also larger
than Titicaca, according to Wikipedia.
When looking at that list, I am more surprised that you went wrong on
your home continent. Then again, most shamefully, full of national
pride I did the same.
Mark Brader
Jan 22, 2014, 6:33:03 PM1/22/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
I'm not. For the lakes there are several candidates of closely similar
size. For the mountains it's a case of "who cares about #2?"
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "A good programmer is someone who looks both ways
m...@vex.net | before crossing a one-way street." -- Doug Linder
> When looking at that list, I am more surprised that you went wrong on
> your home continent...
I'm not. For the lakes there are several candidates of closely similar
size. For the mountains it's a case of "who cares about #2?"
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "A good programmer is someone who looks both ways
m...@vex.net | before crossing a one-way street." -- Doug Linder
Rob Parker
Jan 23, 2014, 8:32:15 PM1/23/14
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> Part I
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed. A lake
> may have fresh water or salt water, but I am considering the Caspian Sea
> to be a sea, not a lake. Also excluded from consideration are lakes that
> exist as a result of human construction.
>
> 1. Asia
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed. A lake
> may have fresh water or salt water, but I am considering the Caspian Sea
> to be a sea, not a lake. Also excluded from consideration are lakes that
> exist as a result of human construction.
>
>
> 2. Africa
Lake Tanganika
> 3. North America
Lake Huron
> 4. South America
> 5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
> lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
2009, but we didn't get there - too much sea ice early in our trip. Can't
remember the name either :-(
> 6. Europe
Lake Geneva
> Part II
> Identify the second-highest mountain on each continent listed.
>
> 1. Asia
> 2. Africa
Kilimanjaro
> 3. North America
Whitney
> 4. South America
>
> 5. Antarctic
> 6. Europe
Matterhorn
> 7. Australia
Bogong - or, if you consider Heard Island to be part of Australia (it's an
external territory), Kosciuszko.
Rob
Dan Tilque
Jan 25, 2014, 10:10:11 PM1/25/14
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Marc Dashevsky wrote:
> RQ #128
>
> I will publish the results on the evening (Central U.S. time) of Monday,
> January 27.
>
> Part I
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed. A lake
> may have fresh water or salt water, but I am considering the Caspian Sea
> to be a sea, not a lake. Also excluded from consideration are lakes that
> exist as a result of human construction.
>
> I have excluded Australia because some of the lakes considered to be the
> largest are ephemeral, filling only during the rainy season. There is lots
> of room for disagreement, and I found no authority in which I was confident.
>
> 1. Asia
Aral Sea (It's probably shrunk enough that it's smaller than Lake Baikal.)
> RQ #128
>
> I will publish the results on the evening (Central U.S. time) of Monday,
> January 27.
>
> Part I
> Identify the second-largest lake by area on each continent listed. A lake
> may have fresh water or salt water, but I am considering the Caspian Sea
> to be a sea, not a lake. Also excluded from consideration are lakes that
> exist as a result of human construction.
>
> I have excluded Australia because some of the lakes considered to be the
> largest are ephemeral, filling only during the rainy season. There is lots
> of room for disagreement, and I found no authority in which I was confident.
>
> 1. Asia
>
> 2. Africa
Lake Malawi
>
> 3. North America
Lake Huron
>
> 4. South America
>
> 5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
> lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
>
> 6. Europe
Lake Constance
>
> 5. Antarctica [I could not find any authority denoting the second-largest
> lake, so provide the name of the largest lake.]
>
> 6. Europe
>
> Part II
> Identify the second-highest mountain on each continent listed.
>
> 1. Asia
>
> 2. Africa
>
> 3. North America
>
> 4. South America
>
> 5. Antarctic
>
> 6. Europe
>
> 7. Australia
--
Dan Tilque
Helix, if everything goes according to plan, the plan has been
compromised. -- Sam Starfall in "Freefall"
Marc Dashevsky
Jan 28, 2014, 4:13:51 PM1/28/14
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RQ #128
ANSWERS
Second-largest lake by area on each continent. (Largest is in parentheses)
May have fresh water or salt water; Caspian Sea is a sea, not a lake.
Also excluded are lakes that exist as a result of human construction.
1. Asia: Balkhesh (Baikal)
2. Africa: Tanganyika (Victoria)
3. North America: Huron (Superior)
4. South America: Titicaca (Maracaibo, sometimes considered a bay, but historically it's a lake)
5. Antarctica: Vostok [largest lake]
6. Europe: Onega (Ladoga)
7. Australia: I have excluded Australia because some of the lakes considered
1. Asia: K2 (Everest)
2. Africa: Kenya (Kilimanjaro)
3. North America: Logan (Denali)
4. South America: Alpamayo (Aconcagua)
5. Antarctica: Tyree (Vinson Massif)
6. Europe: Dykh-Tau (Elbrus)
7. Australia: Townsend (Kosciuszko)
I do not know which Caucasus mountains are on which side of the continental
divide so I accepted Mt. Blanc as well as Dykh-Tau.
RESULTS
L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
Congratulations to Mark. With two consecutive meagre turnouts
for the Rotating Quiz, I suppose it is up to him if he wants
to publish RQ #129.
ANSWERS
Second-largest lake by area on each continent. (Largest is in parentheses)
May have fresh water or salt water; Caspian Sea is a sea, not a lake.
Also excluded are lakes that exist as a result of human construction.
1. Asia: Balkhesh (Baikal)
2. Africa: Tanganyika (Victoria)
3. North America: Huron (Superior)
4. South America: Titicaca (Maracaibo, sometimes considered a bay, but historically it's a lake)
5. Antarctica: Vostok [largest lake]
6. Europe: Onega (Ladoga)
7. Australia: I have excluded Australia because some of the lakes considered
to be the largest are ephemeral, filling only during the rainy season. There
is lots of room for disagreement, and I found no authority in which I was
confident.
Second-highest mountain on each continent. (Highest is in parentheses)
is lots of room for disagreement, and I found no authority in which I was
confident.
1. Asia: K2 (Everest)
2. Africa: Kenya (Kilimanjaro)
3. North America: Logan (Denali)
4. South America: Alpamayo (Aconcagua)
5. Antarctica: Tyree (Vinson Massif)
6. Europe: Dykh-Tau (Elbrus)
7. Australia: Townsend (Kosciuszko)
I do not know which Caucasus mountains are on which side of the continental
divide so I accepted Mt. Blanc as well as Dykh-Tau.
RESULTS
L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
Congratulations to Mark. With two consecutive meagre turnouts
for the Rotating Quiz, I suppose it is up to him if he wants
to publish RQ #129.
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 28, 2014, 5:01:44 PM1/28/14
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Marc Dashevsky (use...@MarcDashevsky.com) writes:
> L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
> 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
> 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
> 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
> 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
> --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
> 0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
Since it's so completely embarrassing missing Onega, I rather sink
> L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
> 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
> 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
> 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
> 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
> --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
> 0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
through a hole. But nevertheless - I had Mount Kenya for M2.
Dan Tilque
Jan 28, 2014, 5:14:02 PM1/28/14
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Marc Dashevsky wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Mark. With two consecutive meagre turnouts
> for the Rotating Quiz,
In order to get a decent turnout, you have to ask at least some
>
> Congratulations to Mark. With two consecutive meagre turnouts
> for the Rotating Quiz,
questions where lots of people will be expected to know the answers. If
someone doesn't know any answers at all (as happened to me in a couple
recent Rotating Quizzes) they aren't going to enter. If they only know
one answer, they probably won't enter, either.
Mark Brader
Jan 28, 2014, 5:53:56 PM1/28/14
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Marc Dashevsky:
it on a later occasion. So hang on while I think of something else...
--
Mark Brader | "It can be amusing, even if painful, to watch the
Toronto | ethnocentrism of those who are convinced their
m...@vex.net | local standards are universal." -- Tom Chapin
> > Congratulations to Mark. With two consecutive meagre turnouts
> > for the Rotating Quiz,
Dan Tilque:
> > for the Rotating Quiz,
> In order to get a decent turnout, you have to ask at least some
> questions where lots of people will be expected to know the answers.
Yeah. I think I'll put aside the one I had prepared and perhaps use
> questions where lots of people will be expected to know the answers.
it on a later occasion. So hang on while I think of something else...
--
Mark Brader | "It can be amusing, even if painful, to watch the
Toronto | ethnocentrism of those who are convinced their
m...@vex.net | local standards are universal." -- Tom Chapin
Marc Dashevsky
Jan 28, 2014, 8:24:09 PM1/28/14
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In article <XnsA2C3EA43A...@127.0.0.1>, esq...@sommarskog.se says...
to fulfill his duties as quizmaster for RQ #129, Erland, Rob
and Dan will compete in Rock-paper-scissors (best 4 of 7) to
determine who shall take his place.
L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 Erland Sommarskog
>
> Marc Dashevsky (use...@MarcDashevsky.com) writes:
> > L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
> > 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
> > 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
> > 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
> > 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
> > --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
> > 0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
>
> Since it's so completely embarrassing missing Onega, I rather sink
> through a hole. But nevertheless - I had Mount Kenya for M2.
Indeed. A three-way tie for second place! Should Mark be unable
> Marc Dashevsky (use...@MarcDashevsky.com) writes:
> > L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
> > 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
> > 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Erland Sommarskog
> > 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Rob Parker
> > 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 Dan Tilque
> > --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----
> > 0 2 3 2 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 3 0
>
> Since it's so completely embarrassing missing Onega, I rather sink
> through a hole. But nevertheless - I had Mount Kenya for M2.
to fulfill his duties as quizmaster for RQ #129, Erland, Rob
and Dan will compete in Rock-paper-scissors (best 4 of 7) to
determine who shall take his place.
L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 Total
0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 6 Mark Brader
Erland Sommarskog
Jan 29, 2014, 3:37:04 AM1/29/14
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Marc Dashevsky (use...@MarcDashevsky.com) writes:
> Indeed. A three-way tie for second place! Should Mark be unable
> to fulfill his duties as quizmaster for RQ #129, Erland, Rob
> and Dan will compete in Rock-paper-scissors (best 4 of 7) to
> determine who shall take his place.
I'm relieved to see that Mark was quick to post RQ 129!
> Indeed. A three-way tie for second place! Should Mark be unable
> to fulfill his duties as quizmaster for RQ #129, Erland, Rob
> and Dan will compete in Rock-paper-scissors (best 4 of 7) to
> determine who shall take his place.
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