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Steve Hatherley

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Jan 8, 1995, 3:41:20 PM1/8/95
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Great game, played it a few times so far and have a few questions.
Actually, these are mostly clarifications that better wording on the cards
would clear up.

1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

2) Once Warehouse 23 is in play (ie, after the free automatic takeover),
how does it work? Can you just pile in your resources as you draw them
or do you still have to play them as automatic takeovers? (The card
is not entirely clear.)

3) Can you play a plot card that increases power (Self-Esteem, etc) on
another player's group? Why? Well, it helps Shangri-La and it
also removes that group's action token.

4) Can a Fanatic group aid in an attack to control a Fanatic group? I
assume not, in which case they could presumably aid in an attack to
destroy a Fanatic group.

Hope someone can help.

Cheers,

Steve

Ichabod

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Jan 8, 1995, 10:50:29 PM1/8/95
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In article <789597...@flar.demon.co.uk>,

Steve Hatherley <St...@flar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
>is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
>Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

Since it doesn't say I would assume they are considered destroyed. I
could be wrong on this one.


>
>2) Once Warehouse 23 is in play (ie, after the free automatic takeover),
>how does it work? Can you just pile in your resources as you draw them
>or do you still have to play them as automatic takeovers? (The card
>is not entirely clear.)

You must still play them as automatic takeovers or in some other legal
way (flying saucers, etc.).


>
>3) Can you play a plot card that increases power (Self-Esteem, etc) on
>another player's group? Why? Well, it helps Shangri-La and it
>also removes that group's action token.

I would say no, only the person controlling a group can spend that
group's action token


>
>4) Can a Fanatic group aid in an attack to control a Fanatic group? I
>assume not, in which case they could presumably aid in an attack to
>destroy a Fanatic group.
>

Fanatics are always considered opposite of each other. So no on aid to
control but yes on aid to destroy.
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Robert DeLoura

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Jan 9, 1995, 1:38:59 PM1/9/95
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In article <789597...@flar.demon.co.uk> St...@flar.demon.co.uk (Steve Hatherley) writes:
> 1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
> is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
> Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

I'd suspect it isn't considered destroyed, but I don't have a definite answer
for you.

> 2) Once Warehouse 23 is in play (ie, after the free automatic takeover),
> how does it work? Can you just pile in your resources as you draw them
> or do you still have to play them as automatic takeovers? (The card
> is not entirely clear.)

You still have to play them as automatic takeovers, but people don't get
to see them until you want to use them for something.

> 3) Can you play a plot card that increases power (Self-Esteem, etc) on
> another player's group? Why? Well, it helps Shangri-La and it
> also removes that group's action token.

The ones that do it temporarily (+10) state that you have to control the group.
The ones that do it permanently require the action token off the group, and
you can't spend an action token off a group you don't control. :-)
(Nice try.)

> 4) Can a Fanatic group aid in an attack to control a Fanatic group? I
> assume not, in which case they could presumably aid in an attack to
> destroy a Fanatic group.

You're correct on both counts -- Fanatic groups oppose each other, so their
alignments are wrong for an attempt to Control, but correct for an attempt to
Destroy. Of course, if they have Global Power, they can help anyway.

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Robert DeLoura
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Lynette R. F. Cowper

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Jan 9, 1995, 5:52:29 PM1/9/95
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Steve Hatherley (St...@flar.demon.co.uk) wrote:

> Great game, played it a few times so far and have a few questions.
> Actually, these are mostly clarifications that better wording on the cards
> would clear up.

> 1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
> is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
> Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

My best guess would be no.

> 2) Once Warehouse 23 is in play (ie, after the free automatic takeover),
> how does it work? Can you just pile in your resources as you draw them
> or do you still have to play them as automatic takeovers? (The card
> is not entirely clear.)

They have to be played in the usual way(s)-- auto takeover or fancier
stuff that allows takeovers of Resources.

> 3) Can you play a plot card that increases power (Self-Esteem, etc) on
> another player's group? Why? Well, it helps Shangri-La and it
> also removes that group's action token.

Only if the other player will let you-- he has to spend the action token.

> 4) Can a Fanatic group aid in an attack to control a Fanatic group?

Only if there were some other alignment in common.

> I assume not, in which case they could presumably aid in an attack to
> destroy a Fanatic group.

Correct.

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John Martin Karakash

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Jan 11, 1995, 12:38:05 PM1/11/95
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|>1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
|>is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
|>Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

I think the groups should NOT count as destroyed (following
the reasoning behind Media Blitz and Clone. By a strict wording of
the card, there may be a different result, but that could be a simple
error, too!)

|>2) Once Warehouse 23 is in play (ie, after the free automatic takeover),
|>how does it work? Can you just pile in your resources as you draw them
|>or do you still have to play them as automatic takeovers? (The card
|>is not entirely clear.)

Still need to use Auto takeovers. And make darn sure you
reveal a card if someone else tries to put the same resource into
play!

|>3) Can you play a plot card that increases power (Self-Esteem, etc) on
|>another player's group? Why? Well, it helps Shangri-La and it
|>also removes that group's action token.

Nope. Only the card's owner can spend that token (by my
gut feelings, not having the rules in front of me.) =)

|>4) Can a Fanatic group aid in an attack to control a Fanatic group? I
|>assume not, in which case they could presumably aid in an attack to
|>destroy a Fanatic group.

Not without other circumstances (like some other matching
alignment or an ability or plot card or something).

-john 'OMCL, how do I love thee!' karakash-
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Chris Muenzer

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Jan 12, 1995, 2:01:29 PM1/12/95
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Ichabod (ich...@gozer.psyc.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: In article <789597...@flar.demon.co.uk>,

: Steve Hatherley <St...@flar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: >1) When the Clone Arrangers return a just-destroyed personality to play,
: >is that personality still considered destroyed? It doesn't say - unlike
: >Media Blitz which is quite explicit.

: Since it doesn't say I would assume they are considered destroyed. I
: could be wrong on this one.

If you carefully read the text of the Clone Arrangers it say that you can
olny bring back a "just-killed Personality card" Killed is the important
word there. Personalities are only killed from assinations or other cards
that say "killed" on them.

--
Chris Muenzer
mue...@s9000.furman.edu
b...@cyberspace.org


Ichabod

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Jan 14, 1995, 12:46:17 AM1/14/95
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In article <3f3ua9$g...@ns9000.furman.edu>,
But isn't a killed card still considered destroyed? So I don't see how
the fact that it is only killed cards would really change my answer.
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