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Timetwister - Why is it so good?

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Craig Sivils

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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foste...@osu.edu (Brett) wrote:

>In article <4cq4qt$6...@news.uni-c.dk>,
> spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:
>>
>>Could someone please enlighten me on why this card is so highly rated?
>>It looks to me that it is merely a combined wheel of fortune and
>>feldon's cane. I realize this makes it good, but not exceptional in my
>>eyes.
>>
>>What have I missed?
>>
>>Rasmus
>>
It depends on the deck design, my current type I deck is a weissman
school deck and I use the cane since I the last thing I want to do is
give my opponent 7 more cards.

Craig


Brett

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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In article <4cq4qt$6...@news.uni-c.dk>,
spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:
>
>Could someone please enlighten me on why this card is so highly rated?
>It looks to me that it is merely a combined wheel of fortune and
>feldon's cane. I realize this makes it good, but not exceptional in my
>eyes.
>
>What have I missed?
>
>Rasmus
>

Well, it's out of print, it's cool, it's rare, and it's restricted, so that's a
lot of it. When you have a fair amount of mana already out, it changes the mana
ratio of your deck when you reshuffle your graveyard, so you have more chances
of getting non-mana. And, most of the time, everything in your graveyard is
there because you could cast it and it was useful, or it was good enough that
your opponent countered or destroyed it. It helps a lot more than you'd think
to be able to reshuffle your graveyard. Of course, you can get the infinite
turn combo going with Time Walk, Timetwister, and Regrowth if you can go through
your deck. Personally, I still think it's a little overrated. I think
Ancestral is better than it or Time Walk (it doesn't win the game for you, but
it's ALWAYS useful- if you've got a good deck, Ancestral is often worth it when
you've got Underworld Dreams and a Vise on you). I don't think Timetwister
deserves to be ranked with the 'Power 9'.

|) |) [ -|-|- "No great genius has ever existed without some touch of
|) |\ [ | | madness." - Aristotle (De Tranquillitate Animi 17:10)

Brett Foster <foste...@osu.edu> http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~bfoster

Rasmus Bertelsen

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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MELANCHOLY PRINCE

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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A few quick reasons come to mind. First off, a Tormod's Crypt used in
response to your own Twister will make your opponent merely draw a new
hand. I used to love drawing a Mind Twist via Timetwister after that.
But, after all, it was only a *fun* deck, nothing really nasty. Also,
Timetwister goes to your new graveyard, it can be regrown, Feldon's Cane
leaves the game. This is a great way to create a recycling deck, with a
Cane thrown in for insurance.
Generally, I didn't cast Timetwister without the Crypt. The exception might
be if an opponent is sucking life off of a Library of Leng/Ivory Tower.

I know this is off of the subject of your original question, but the entire
deck was based around removing my opponent's deck from the game. It had the
basics, Ashes to Ashes/Dust to Dust, StP, Tormod's Crypt, the recycling
engine, and a fun combo: Armageddon/Mana Flare/Pyramids. I actually based
it off of one of the original game designer's deck mentioned in the first
pocket handbook. Well, thanks for indulging me in a bit of reminiscing.

Brett Phillips phil...@uwplatt.edu

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Shannon Harris

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Jan 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/11/96
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spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:
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>Could someone please enlighten me on why this card[Timetwister] is so highly rated?

>It looks to me that it is merely a combined wheel of fortune and
>feldon's cane. I realize this makes it good, but not exceptional in my
>eyes.
>
>What have I missed?
>
>Rasmus
>
I've found it to be effective in decks designed around it in combos such
as Tormod's Crypting away their graveyard, then casting it. Or when you
have vices (or I guess vice from now on) to put them at 7 cards, or
Underworld Dreams, ...etc.

Shannon Harris
lu...@ix.netcom.com

Alan Leung

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Jan 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/12/96
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On 11 Jan 1996, Shannon Harris wrote:

> spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:
> >
> >Could someone please enlighten me on why this card[Timetwister] is so highly rated?
> >It looks to me that it is merely a combined wheel of fortune and
> >feldon's cane. I realize this makes it good, but not exceptional in my
> >eyes.
> >
>
>What have I missed?
> >
> >Rasmus
> >

I think the biggest advantage of the timetwister is that it recycles the
"big" cards back to your deck. Cards like timewalk , and ancestral
recall go back into your deck also the demonic tutor also goes back in.
This doesn't sound like too much of an advantage but I was in a
tournament last tuesday and the guy I was playing mangaged to take 14
turns to my 7 and managed to hit me with 45 points of red firepower!
(whew thank goodness for fountains of youth, ivory towers and zuran orb!)

Ethereal

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96
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How did he take twice as many turns as you?


Frank Schacherer

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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csi...@blkbox.com (Craig Sivils) writes:

>foste...@osu.edu (Brett) wrote:
>
>>In article <4cq4qt$6...@news.uni-c.dk>,

>> spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:
>>>
>>>Could someone please enlighten me on why this card is so highly rated?


>>>It looks to me that it is merely a combined wheel of fortune and
>>>feldon's cane. I realize this makes it good, but not exceptional in my
>>>eyes.
>>>
>>>What have I missed?
>>>
>>>Rasmus
>>>

>It depends on the deck design, my current type I deck is a weissman
>school deck and I use the cane since I the last thing I want to do is
>give my opponent 7 more cards.
>
>Craig

Very good observation.

>
--
Frank

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Michael Roberson

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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spro...@cybercity.dk (Rasmus Bertelsen) wrote:

for 3 mana you get all your cards back
you get a new hand and you get first shot at using it

it makes an infinate loop of cards
REGROWTH- TIMETWISTER

BOLT-BOLT-BOLT-BOLT
NEXT ROUND
TIME TWISTER
BOLT BOLT BOLT BOLT

IT GIVES YOU RESOURCES
THAT WINS GAMES

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