Green / Red Type 1 deck for critique

[vincent de bot]

This is my type 1 deck i've been playing with for some time now....
i usually win 50 % mainly because i dont have i sideboard yet.

The Deck

Red Creatures
4 x shivan dragon
4 x Orcish lumberjack
4 x balduvian horde
3 x rock of kher ridges

Green Creatures
3 x llanowar elves
4 x tinder wall

Red spells
4x lightning bolt
4x incinerate
1x blood lust
1x fireball

Green Spells
1x might of the oaks
4 x giant growth
4x rancor

Land
11 forest
11 mountain

Anyone have any idea's for a sideboard

Thanks
Vince

[Goku00dbz]

I'm sorry to tell you this, but unless you are playing casual T1 or with people
with no power cards at all, the deck will probably have little success. Many
T1 decks can win on turn 2 and few win much later than turn 5 unless there is
lots of disruption in the form of counter, land destruction, hand destruction,
and/or quick board control. Your best chance is probably a counter deck as it
requires the least amount of power cards (unless you feel compelled to add
ancestral recall and jewelry and perhaps timewalk)

I feel that the deck may have more sucess in T1.x if you make the deck more
aggro, tighten the mana curve, and make the deck less relaint on fast mana

-SSJ Goku

"Excuse me, has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, its green" -Radditz

[vincent de bot]

my deck does turn 4 kills easy .....

1st turn mountain Oricish lumber jack
2nd turn forest tinderwall .....shivan dragon

then usually i win by turn 3 or 4 depending on my hand
Goku00dbz wrote:

>
>
> I'm sorry to tell you this, but unless you are playing casual T1 or with people
> with no power cards at all, the deck will probably have little success. Many
> T1 decks can win on turn 2 and few win much later than turn 5 unless there is
> lots of disruption in the form of counter, land destruction, hand destruction,
> and/or quick board control. Your best chance is probably a counter deck as it
> requires the least amount of power cards (unless you feel compelled to add
> ancestral recall and jewelry and perhaps timewalk)
>
> I feel that the deck may have more sucess in T1.x if you make the deck more
> aggro, tighten the mana curve, and make the deck less relaint on fast mana
>
> -SSJ Goku
>
> "Excuse me, has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, its green" -Radditz

--
You NEVER EVER attack with your llanowar elves :))))

[Eric Taylor]

Goku00dbz <goku...@aol.com> wrote:
:I'm sorry to tell you this, but unless you are playing casual T1 or with people
:with no power cards at all, the deck will probably have little success. Many
:T1 decks can win on turn 2 and few win much later than turn 5 unless there is

A turn 2 kill deck is very very slow in type 1 right now.

This deck should give you a 70% turn 1 kill rate:

standard/t1-jar-recursion.dec

1@powerartifact memoryjar abeyance pearl saph emerald jet ruby lotus spiral
ancest wheel twist scrollrack demtutor walk tolarian windfall candelabra
stroke braingeyser regrow grimmonolith 4@cityofbrass 2@gemstonemine 1@stripmine
3@croprotation 4@force lotuspetal vault crypt tinker 4@mystictutor 3@hurkyls

For a cheap ass type 1 deck to combat the all jewelry turn 1 kill decks
you need both

a) 4 force of wills
b) some combo stopper, such as chains of mephistopheles, gorilla shaman,
abeyance, or arcane lab

For instance, you can play necro with 4 force of wills and 4 chains and
do well.

Or, you can run sligh with 4 force of wills 1 time walk, 1 twister, 1
ancestral and 4 gorrilla shamans.

No matter what you need 4 force of wills in your deck.

If you want beatdown then you can take out the red cards and go
green/blue with force of wills to slow the combo and some arcane labs
for the lock against combo.

--- edt