Q:White knight and pestilence
Daniel Shin
In article <5cmhvv$s...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU>, bush...@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
(Scott Bushee) wrote:
> In article <5clfb9$n...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Chris Lukas) says:
> >
> >
> >Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
> >but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> >THanks,
> >Chris
> >
> >--
> no
I thought that if a card has prot. from a color it is still affected by
non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath of
God.
Hmmm....
--Dan
Chris Lukas
Scott Bushee
In article <5clfb9$n...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>, ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Chris Lukas) says:
>
>
Highlander Fan
> > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target
effect
> > >but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> > >THanks,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >--
> > no
>
> I thought that if a card has prot. from a color it is still affected by
> non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath
of
> God.
>
> Hmmm....
>
> --Dan
>
A creature that has protection from a colour gets the following benefits
(and maybe more, I'm barely awake after playing in tournaments for the past
12 hours):
1. It can't be targeted by spells of that colour. Obviously the
Pestilence isn't targeting it.
2. All damage dealt to the creature by sources of tha colour is reduced to
zero.
Here is where the pestilence fails. Even though it's non-targeted, it's
dealing damage, which is reduced to zero.
With the Black Knight / Wrath example, the Wrath isn't dealing any damage,
so the protection doesn't help.
Scott
Binaya Panda
hello. has anyone else been playing/reading the newsgroup long enough
to remember the great white knight/pestilence wars ???
no ?
pestilence does not kill a white knight. white knight cannot be
damaged by anything white. (unless hacked etc.)
JC's CyberWarrior
Daniel Shin wrote:
>
> In article <5cmhvv$s...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU>, bush...@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
> (Scott Bushee) wrote:
>
> ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Chris Lukas) says:
> > >
> > >
> > >but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> > >THanks,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >--
> > no
>
> I thought that if a card has prot. from a color it is still affected by
> non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath of
> God.
>
> Hmmm....
>
> --Dan
I believe "Protection from White/Black" refers to the ability to
take damage rather than to withstand effects. So while Wrath of God
will bury Black Knight, *zero* damage will be dealt to White Knight by
Pestilence.
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Green Acres
Highlander Fan <mary...@tir.com> wrote in article
<01bc0cf7$d2601960$9c7865ce@mary-s>...
>
> > > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? > > I thought that if a card
has prot. from a color it is still affected by
> > non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath
> of God
BEFORE YOU POST HERE YOU SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK IN THE BOOK TO SEE IF YOUR
QUESTION CAN BE ANSWERED THERE!!!!!! YOU LOOK LIKE *SUCH* AN IDIOT.
Joel Kittinger
Daniel Shin wrote:
>
> In article <5cmhvv$s...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU>, bush...@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
> (Scott Bushee) wrote:
>
> > In article <5clfb9$n...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
> ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Chris Lukas) says:
> > >
> > >
> > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
> > >but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> > >THanks,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >--
> > no
>
> non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath of
>
> Hmmm....
>
> --Dan
per the mirage rulebook, page 21:
if a creature has protection from <color>
<color> creatures can't be assigned to block it
all damage dealt to it be <color> sources are reduced to zero
it can't be the target of <color> spells, abilities, or enchantments
So what does pestilence do:
(1) It is a black enchantment
(2) It is a non-targeted effect
(3) It does damage (as opposed to giving a -1/-1, etc.)
As pestilence is a non-targeted effect, it does indeed effect a white
knight.
(same reason why wrath of god effects a black knight )
Pestilence deals damage. The damage is considered to come from a black
source.
As Protection from black reduces all the damage dealt from a black
source to zero,
the white knight takes zero damage.
Wrath of God does not deal damage and instead buries the creature, which
is why
the black knight is buried from a wrath of god.
It is really important to note that the damage from pestilence is
damage.
(ok, so this is obvious but...).
If you look at the card, Stench of Decay... you will notice that is does
not deal
damage, and instead gives a -1/-1 to all non-artifact creatures.
This will effect the White Knight, and should the toughness of the
knight somehow
end up at zero (like from another Stench of Decay), it will die.
(Stench of Decay isn't really useful against white knights, but it's
great for
pump knights ).
Other effects that give + or - to power/toughness that are non-targeted,
will
also effect protection from <color> creatures.
- joel
Beau Bemis
On 29 Jan 1997, Green Acres wrote:
>
>
> Highlander Fan <mary...@tir.com> wrote in article
> <01bc0cf7$d2601960$9c7865ce@mary-s>...
> >
> > > > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? > > I thought that if a card
> has prot. from a color it is still affected by
> > > non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath
> > of God
>
> BEFORE YOU POST HERE YOU SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK IN THE BOOK TO SEE IF YOUR
> QUESTION CAN BE ANSWERED THERE!!!!!! YOU LOOK LIKE *SUCH* AN IDIOT.
>
>
>
Okay now, 1) There's this long key called CAPS LOCK, just below the Tab
key, hit it again and TURN IT OFF!
2) That was totally uncalled for, he has a legitimate question. Perhaps he
lost the book, or loaned it out, or heck, was just given a whole lot of
cards by a friend and doesn't have the book. Even so, the book can be very
confusing at times. In such cases, he is asking a bunch of fellow players
for help. That does not make him look like such an idiot. It only makes
YOU look like a jackass.
In spite of this, the answer is no, the White Knights protection from
black does protect him from Pestilence. Pestilence targets every player
and creature, this the damage dealt to the White Knight from Pestilence is
reduced to 0. In Wrath of God's case, the creatures are all just buried,
and no damage is assigned, and it is not targeted at any specific
creature. Thus, there is no damage to reduce to 0, and since it's a
non-target speel, the color doesn't matter. That's why a Black Knight will
be buried by a Wrath of God.
Beau. (Beau says there are no stupid questions, only stupid people.)
Sam Ward
Daniel Shin wrote:
>
> In article <5cmhvv$s...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU>, bush...@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
> (Scott Bushee) wrote:
>
> > In article <5clfb9$n...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
> ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Chris Lukas) says:
> > >
> > >
> > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
> > >but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> > >THanks,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >--
> > no
>
> non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath of
>
> Hmmm....
>
> --Dan
It is true that all protected Cards are still affected by untargeted
effects. e.g. wrath of God. However, Protection from a colour also
means that all damage from sources of that colour is reduced to 0.
Therefore, although the White Knight Will be affected by the Pestilence,
The damage from it Will be reduced to 0 via its natural protection.
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The way that scenario works is like this. Protection from a color
doesn't protect from non-targeting effects of that color. However, all
damage dealt by that effect is reduced to 0. That's why Pestilence cannot
harm a White Knight, yet Wrath of God destroys a Black Knight. Wrath of
God destroys all creatures without dealing any damage.
Last Vestige of Sanity
Green Acres (no...@intrex.net) wrote:
: > > > >Is white knight affect by pestilence? > > I thought that if a card
: has prot. from a color it is still affected by
: > > non-targeted effects. For example, black knights are buried by a wrath
: BEFORE YOU POST HERE YOU SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK IN THE BOOK TO SEE IF YOUR
: QUESTION CAN BE ANSWERED THERE!!!!!! YOU LOOK LIKE *SUCH* AN IDIOT.
Now now, did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed? If a new player
doesn't understand the rules, or someone is just confused with a card,
he's SUPPOSED to write in here. That's what this newsgroup's for.
-Tim
fp...@lehigh.edu
>In article <5clfb9$n...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>, ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.
ca (Chris Lukas) says:
>>
>>
>>Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
>>but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
>>THanks,
>>Chris
>>
>>--
>no
>
Actually, the technical answer is this: Pestilence isn't a targeted effect, so
it still deals the damage to the Knight, but since the Knight is Prot. Black,
the damage is reduced to zero.
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Chris Lukas (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
:
: Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
: but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
: THanks,
: Chris
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RODRIGUEZ MILLAN
On 28 Jan 1997, Chris Lukas wrote:
>
> Is white knight affect by pestilence? I know pest. isn't a target effect
> but isn't all damage done to mr/knight by a blakc source reduced to 0.
> THanks,
> Chris
>
> --
>
>
No...the white knight is affected but the damage is reduced to 0.
Dani Rodriguez
shih-jen hsu
Beau Bemis (bbe...@ycp.edu) wrote:
: On 29 Jan 1997, Green Acres wrote:
: In spite of this, the answer is no, the White Knights protection from
: black does protect him from Pestilence. Pestilence targets every player
: and creature, this the damage dealt to the White Knight from Pestilence is
: reduced to 0.
Actually, Pestilience does NOT target the white knight. White knight gets
damage from Pestilience, but because he has Prot/Black, that damage is
reduced to 0. Small technicality.
Jen
The Happy Blues Man
In article <5dd507$k...@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>, sj...@cs.sunysb.edu
(shih-jen hsu) wrote:
A small technicality will screw some people. :)
Consider this: You have a Pestilence, a City of Solitude, and a Whirling
Dervish in play. Your opponent has a White Knight. On your turn, you Pesty
for 5. Because of the City, the Pro. Black's "reduce damage to 0" function
no longer works. However, the one on your Dervish still does. If it were a
target, the Knight would still live because the "No target" ability to
continuous.
A small technicality that will get you the game. :)
--
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The Happy Blues Man
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Nick Blesch
The Happy Blues Man <seig...@cybercom.net> wrote in article
<seigniory-090...@sbr-dial1-6.cybercom.net>...
0" function still works, much like a Black Vise would still deal damage
under a City. The City only prevents you from actively doing anything, like
giving your pump knight first strike. And, like someone else said, the
Pestilence no more targets all creatures than a Disk destroys all target
creature, enchantments, and artifacts; global effects are *not* targeted.
In your example, both live because their damage gets reduced to 0. Just
curious, tho, how do you figure that one facet of Prot. Black won't work
under a city and another one will?
Michael Feuell
The Happy Blues Man<seig...@cybercom.net> wrote:
>
>A small technicality will screw some people. :)
>
>Consider this: You have a Pestilence, a City of Solitude, and a Whirling
>Dervish in play. Your opponent has a White Knight. On your turn, you Pesty
>for 5. Because of the City, the Pro. Black's "reduce damage to 0" function
>no longer works. However, the one on your Dervish still does. If it were a
>target, the Knight would still live because the "No target" ability to
>continuous.
>
>A small technicality that will get you the game. :)
What?
I repeat, what?
*sigh*.
City of Solitude Rare
Casting Cost: 2G Enchantment
Each player may play spells and abilities only during his or her turn.
Ok, so what am I missing here? I suppose that it should be pointed out
that "Protection from XXX" is a continuous ability. You do not choose to
activate/play it. Abilities that can be activated will have a cost
associated with them [under 5th rules] this will means there will be a ':'
with the cost appearing before it, and the ability/effect after it. You
can't break the ability "Prot from XXX" up into sub abilities that can be
activated or not, it's one ability with all of it's sub-parts being
continuous as well.
The White Knight will still live. About the best you could do is to make
the Pestilence colourless with 'Ersatz Gnomes'. :*) (of course this would
hose your Dervish as well....) Or you could try a Slight instead... :*)
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The Happy Blues Man
In article <01bc174b$c219fb80$2f18...@world.evansville.net>, "Nick
Blesch" <lbl...@evansville.net> wrote:
>> A small technicality will screw some people. :)
>>
>> Consider this: You have a Pestilence, a City of Solitude, and a Whirling
>> Dervish in play. Your opponent has a White Knight. On your turn, you
>Pesty
>> for 5. Because of the City, the Pro. Black's "reduce damage to 0"
>function
>> no longer works. However, the one on your Dervish still does. If it were
>a
>> target, the Knight would still live because the "No target" ability to
>> continuous.
>>
>> A small technicality that will get you the game. :)
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Yurek
>> The Happy Blues Man
>> "Don't feel compelled to eat your way through the Earth because I'm
>Jelly."
>>
>No, because the White Knights ability is continuous, its "reduce damage to
>0" function still works, much like a Black Vise would still deal damage
>under a City. The City only prevents you from actively doing anything, like
>giving your pump knight first strike. And, like someone else said, the
>Pestilence no more targets all creatures than a Disk destroys all target
>creature, enchantments, and artifacts; global effects are *not* targeted.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I know this, I was making a point.
>In your example, both live because their damage gets reduced to 0. Just
>curious, tho, how do you figure that one facet of Prot. Black won't work
>under a city and another one will?
*BZZ!!* Wrong! And you, sir, are one of the people this *lovely* combo
will screw.
The reduce damage to zero attibute of the Protection is not, repeat *not*,
continuous! It is a triggered effect (by black damage being dealt), and
will not go into effect because of the CoS... and no, you won't take vice
damage, as this is also a Triggered Effect. Continuous effect, such as Bad
Moon and Winter Orb, are the only things that aren't affected by CoS,
because there is nothing in them that needs to be "triggered".
The fact that you can't target a creature with Pro. Black is continuous.
There is nothing that triggers the "No target" ability... you just can't
target it. The reduce damage is triggered by the damage being dealt.
Believe me... we in #mtg have had a very heated discussion about this
topic. Very high judges were present, and this is the decision and how the
ruling works.
Nick Blesch
> *BZZ!!* Wrong! And you, sir, are one of the people this *lovely* combo
> will screw.
>
> The reduce damage to zero attibute of the Protection is not, repeat
*not*,
> continuous! It is a triggered effect (by black damage being dealt), and
> will not go into effect because of the CoS... and no, you won't take vice
> damage, as this is also a Triggered Effect. Continuous effect, such as
Bad
> Moon and Winter Orb, are the only things that aren't affected by CoS,
> because there is nothing in them that needs to be "triggered".
>
> The fact that you can't target a creature with Pro. Black is continuous.
> There is nothing that triggers the "No target" ability... you just can't
> target it. The reduce damage is triggered by the damage being dealt.
only during his or her turn." This would lead me to believe that things
triggered by what your opponent does (like activating Pesty), should they
trigger effects, the effects would go off anyway because the _player_
didn't activate them...
>
> Believe me... we in #mtg have had a very heated discussion about this
> topic. Very high judges were present, and this is the decision and how
the
> ruling works.
Alan Paull
In article <seigniory-100...@sbr-dial1-27.cybercom.net>, The
Happy Blues Man <seig...@cybercom.net> writes
>*BZZ!!* Wrong! And you, sir, are one of the people this *lovely* combo
>will screw.
>
>continuous! It is a triggered effect (by black damage being dealt), and
>will not go into effect because of the CoS... and no, you won't take vice
>damage, as this is also a Triggered Effect. Continuous effect, such as Bad
>Moon and Winter Orb, are the only things that aren't affected by CoS,
>because there is nothing in them that needs to be "triggered".
>
>There is nothing that triggers the "No target" ability... you just can't
>target it. The reduce damage is triggered by the damage being dealt.
>
>topic. Very high judges were present, and this is the decision and how the
>ruling works.
>
If this is true, this is an awful ruling (much like the original Serra Angel
one). Does the meaning of the words have no weight with these guys? The
card says "Each player may play spells and abilities only during his or her
turn." Surely "may play" means the player has an input. I don't *instruct*
my White Knight to reduce the damage to zero, it just happens.
--
Alan Paull
KPKOOIKER
Alan Paull is correct, and the ruling is incorrect. I posted the
question to JD Wiker at WOTC Customer Service, (via the Q & A forum on
AOL,) and he posted the following response:
< Subj: Re:City of Solitude vsPro:Black
< Date: 97-02-12 15:22:43 EST
< From: WotC
<
< City of Solitude seems pretty potent, and while it is,
< it's not as potent as it's made out to be. Essentially, if
< you make a choice to use an ability or cast a spell,
< City of Solitude will prevent you from being able to do it
< during any turn but your own. Protection from a
< color--including reducing damage to zero--is not a
< conscious choice, so the City of Solitude won't shut it
< down.
<
< JD Wiker
< Customer Service
< Wizards of the Coast
The Happy Blues Man
>If this is true, this is an awful ruling (much like the original Serra Angel
>one). Does the meaning of the words have no weight with these guys? The
>card says "Each player may play spells and abilities only during his or her
>turn." Surely "may play" means the player has an input. I don't *instruct*
>my White Knight to reduce the damage to zero, it just happens.
>
>--
>Alan Paull
Correct, but since the ability is occurring on your turn, the CoS forbids
it. "May play" simply means that these abilities can only have take effect
on your turn.
Just out of curiosity, what is the original Serra Ruling?
The Happy Blues Man
In article <01bc17c6$97a57de0$2218...@world.evansville.net>, "Nick
Blesch" <lbl...@evansville.net> wrote:
>> *BZZ!!* Wrong! And you, sir, are one of the people this *lovely* combo
>> will screw.
>Didn't know I was on Wheel of Fortune... :)
Well, you are. :)
[agreement snipped]
>> The fact that you can't target a creature with Pro. Black is continuous.
>> There is nothing that triggers the "No target" ability... you just can't
>> target it. The reduce damage is triggered by the damage being dealt.
>Hmmm... According to my spoiler: "Each player may play spells and abilities
>only during his or her turn." This would lead me to believe that things
>triggered by what your opponent does (like activating Pesty), should they
>trigger effects, the effects would go off anyway because the _player_
>didn't activate them...
It would seem that way, yes... but because they are under your control,
you activate them. The are abilities with triggers that are played,
although automatically, just as any other ability. Because they are under
your control, they can not activate because of the CoS (considering it is
your opponent's turn).
>>
>> Believe me... we in #mtg have had a very heated discussion about this
>> topic. Very high judges were present, and this is the decision and how
>the
>> ruling works.
>Who are you on #mtg?
THBMan.... kinda goes with what's in my sig. :)
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Alan Paull
In article <seigniory-120...@sbr-dial2-4.cybercom.net>, The
>>one). Does the meaning of the words have no weight with these guys? The
>>card says "Each player may play spells and abilities only during his or her
>>turn." Surely "may play" means the player has an input. I don't *instruct*
>>my White Knight to reduce the damage to zero, it just happens.
>>
>>--
>>Alan Paull
>
>Correct, but since the ability is occurring on your turn, the CoS forbids
>it. "May play" simply means that these abilities can only have take effect
>on your turn.
>
>Just out of curiosity, what is the original Serra Ruling?
>
Sorry, my last was written in haste and so lacked clarity - I refer to the
ruling on Maze of Ith versus Serra Angel, in which the powers that be ruled
that the Maze did not affect the Serra Angel at all, somewhat in defiance of
the Serra Angel card wording; this was subsequently reversed, when the
template for such card wordings was made more explicit for 4th edition.
Sorry I don't have the cards with me now, so I cannot explain more here.
--
Alan Paull
Capice527
white knight is not protected from pestilence because pestilence is not
targetting it. it deals 1 damage to everything, protection f/black is only
one on one. if you agree with me on this, sorry to waste your time.
Capice527
jhealy22
will). ANY damage from a black source is reduced to zero, whether it is
targetted or not, that's how it is, ask anyone.
Swahealy
Capice527
J.W. Tait
Capice527 <capi...@aol.com> wrote:
Of course, it then reduces that damage to zero, since it is black damage.
Cheers,
Chase
Chris Warren
Capice527 wrote:
>
> white knight is not protected from pestilence because pestilence is not
> targetting it. it deals 1 damage to everything, protection f/black is only
> one on one. if you agree with me on this, sorry to waste your time.
Heaven help me for saying this, because I also have an AOL account, but
this amazing combination of arrogance and ignorance is becoming the
hallmark of AOLers.
<sigh> Read the rules, PLEASE. It amazes me how many people have NEVER
read the rules to the game. To be specific:
A creature with protection from <black>:
* Cannot be targeted by <black> spells or effects
* Any <black> enchantments targeting the creature are immediately buried
* Cannot be blocked by <black> creatures
***** ALL DAMAGE DONE TO THAT CREATURE BY <black> SOURCES IS REDUCED TO
ZERO.
If everyone would take the time to read the book, life would be SO much
easier.
--Chris
Vaevictis Asmadi
In all fairness, this has been argued over for a long time, and even
though you are correct, this is not grounds for insulting anyone. My
friend who has been playing Magic almost since its inception, now
retired, has won many tournaments in his day, and he and I got into the
same argument - he thought the Pestilence would kill the White Knight as
well. So it's not always a matter of the reading the rulebook - the
rulebook is ambiguous in spots anyway.
Can't we all just get along?
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In article <seigniory-090...@sbr-dial1-6.cybercom.net>, seig...@cybercom.net (The Happy Blues Man) writes:
>In article <5dd507$k...@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>, sj...@cs.sunysb.edu
>(shih-jen hsu) wrote:
>
>>Beau Bemis (bbe...@ycp.edu) wrote:
>>
>>: On 29 Jan 1997, Green Acres wrote:
>>: In spite of this, the answer is no, the White Knights protection from
>>: black does protect him from Pestilence. Pestilence targets every player
>>: and creature, this the damage dealt to the White Knight from Pestilence is
>>: reduced to 0.
>>
>>Actually, Pestilience does NOT target the white knight. White knight gets
>>damage from Pestilience, but because he has Prot/Black, that damage is
>>reduced to 0. Small technicality.
>>
>>Jen
>
>
>Consider this: You have a Pestilence, a City of Solitude, and a Whirling
>Dervish in play. Your opponent has a White Knight. On your turn, you Pesty
>for 5. Because of the City, the Pro. Black's "reduce damage to 0" function
>no longer works. However, the one on your Dervish still does. If it were a
>target, the Knight would still live because the "No target" ability to
>continuous.
>
>A small technicality that will get you the game. :)
spell you can play or not, it just happens because of the existence of the
Knight.
>
>--
>Jonathan Yurek
>The Happy Blues Man
Guest User
Capice527 wrote:
>
> white knight is not protected from pestilence because pestilence is not
> targetting it. it deals 1 damage to everything, protection f/black is only
> one on one. if you agree with me on this, sorry to waste your time.
zero. So,even though it's non-targeted damage,the Knight laughs at it.
RTFR.
-Paul T.
Mary Carleton
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Chris Warren wrote:
> If everyone would take the time to read the book, life would be SO much
> easier.
>
> --Chris
Thank you Chris. I'm going to keep posting messages such as this
one re-iterating other messages until you people get the point. At least
set one next to your keyboard and check what you are writing w/ the index.
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