David Bachman and cheating

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The Master Control Program

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Apr 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/21/97
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If you all have a problem with this guy David Bachman cheating, then don't
play him. If you encounter him in tournament, get a ref to watch the
match. But this isn't the place to talk about it. I am sure that
everybody here is quite aware of the fact that David Bachman is an
elledged cheater. I wouldn't know, I have never played him. But
everybody here seems to think he does.

In anycase, privite e-mail is probably the best place to fight this out,
or even better, a table...

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Maniac187

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS BUT I THINK I MUST.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING DORK. WHO ARE YOU TO COME INTO OUR
DISCUSSION WITH YOUR BULLSHIT? DO YOU PLAY MAGIC? IF YOU DO THEN LETS
PLAY FOR SOME ANTE AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE JUDGES YOU WANT TO WATCH OR
EVEN PLAY MY CARDS FOR ME AND HAVE ME TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. I WILL DOUBLE
WHAT YOU PUT UP AND GIVE YOU A ONE GAME HEAD START IN A BEST OF 5. I'LL
EVEN LET YOU CHEAT ONCE A GAME YOU FUCKING LOSER, I WILL STILL BUST YOUR
LITTLE ASS.

DAVID BACHMANN
MEMBER OF TEAM E.C.A
NON-CHEATER
BEST DRAFTER IN THE WORLD


MrJCG1

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if it's
credentials you need here they are:

Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and the
man who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.

Get a fucking clue

Sam Heckman

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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In <19970422082...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mrj...@aol.com

(MrJCG1) writes:
>
>This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if
>it's credentials you need here they are:
>
>Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
>Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and
>theman who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.
>
>Get a fucking clue

I can't believe people like this have the nerve to post strictly to
brag about stupid shit. I'd much rather read posts by truly great
magic players like Nate Clark and Chris Pikula who are trying to help
out this game by ridding it of the losers and cheats.

Sam Heckman



Seve

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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How old is David Bachman?


Chris Noonan

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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Sorry about this, too good to pass up :)

> This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if it's

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


> credentials you need here they are:
>
> Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
> Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and the
> man who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.
>
> Get a fucking clue


Isn't that underlined part an oxymoron?
I mean, if he's gay, wouldn't he want a boyfriend?

I know... anal retentive about grammer. Everyone need a hobby :)

- Magic's a game. Huked un fonix wurked fir me!
Chris

Seth Jaffee

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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On 22 Apr 1997, Sam Heckman wrote:

> >This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if

> >it's credentials you need here they are:


> >
> >Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
> >Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and

> >theman who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.
> >
> >Get a fucking clue
>

> I can't believe people like this have the nerve to post strictly to
> brag about stupid shit. I'd much rather read posts by truly great
> magic players like Nate Clark and Chris Pikula who are trying to help
> out this game by ridding it of the losers and cheats.
>
> Sam Heckman

Admittedly, I don't know what Jerry was talking about, but you're
probably right... I'm sure the majority of this newsgroup logs on every
night eager to know exactly how far and which direction a cunky kid's left
nut is hanging, and who may or may not be licking it (or invited to)...

Last time I checked, being a truly great magic player had little
to do with cheating, talking about cheating, childish insults, (children
in general), body parts, naughty bits, losers, money, bragging, or anyone
nmed Nate (from what I have read recently).

And if Nate and co. insist on carrying on with they're S&M
dominance attitude, there are several newsgroups I can recommend (- as if
they don't ogle over them every night already-), and they all start with
'alt.sex...,' not 'rec.games...'
Just be careful Mommy annd Daddy don't see because they might take
away you'r web priveleges and you won't have anybody to talk down to.

- Seth


Jim Collins

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Seth Jaffee wrote:

> On 22 Apr 1997, Sam Heckman wrote:
>
> > In <19970422082...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mrj...@aol.com
> > (MrJCG1) writes:
> > >
> > >This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if
> > >it's credentials you need here they are:
> > >
> > >Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
> > >Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and
> > >theman who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.
> > >
> > >Get a fucking clue
> >
> > I can't believe people like this have the nerve to post strictly to
> > brag about stupid shit. I'd much rather read posts by truly great
> > magic players like Nate Clark and Chris Pikula who are trying to help
> > out this game by ridding it of the losers and cheats.
> >
> > Sam Heckman

I think he added credentials because Bachmann seems to think if you
aren't ranked high or do good in a pro tour you are a nobody.

>
> Admittedly, I don't know what Jerry was talking about, but you're
> probably right... I'm sure the majority of this newsgroup logs on every
> night eager to know exactly how far and which direction a cunky kid's left
> nut is hanging, and who may or may not be licking it (or invited to)...
>

BTW you misspelled "chunky" ;) hehe

> Last time I checked, being a truly great magic player had little
> to do with cheating, talking about cheating, childish insults, (children
> in general), body parts, naughty bits, losers, money, bragging, or anyone
> nmed Nate (from what I have read recently).
>
> And if Nate and co. insist on carrying on with they're S&M
> dominance attitude, there are several newsgroups I can recommend (- as if
> they don't ogle over them every night already-), and they all start with
> 'alt.sex...,' not 'rec.games...'
> Just be careful Mommy annd Daddy don't see because they might take
> away you'r web priveleges and you won't have anybody to talk down to.
>
> - Seth
>

Preach on brother Seth. I think that Pro Tour players should act like
pros not like little whiny brats.

>
>

James Collins coll...@bird.library.arizona.edu

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MrJCG1

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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I wasn't bragging. It's just that these guys apparently require a resume
before you will be allowed to talk to them. What a bunch of crap. These
guys are no better than you or I. They do all of us who play a disservice
with their holier than thou attitude.

Jerry

Jamin P. Gray

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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On 22 Apr 1997, Sam Heckman wrote:

>
> In <19970422082...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mrj...@aol.com
> (MrJCG1) writes:
> >
> >This guy is an asswipe. Get a fucking girlfriend you faggot. And if
> >it's credentials you need here they are:
> >
> >Captain Team Hardcastle (Runners Up PTLA Merchant Team Challenge)
> >Team includes the DCI #5 ranked player in the world Jeremy Brower, and
> >theman who finished #26 in Paris, Jacob Stirler.
> >
> >Get a fucking clue
>
> I can't believe people like this have the nerve to post strictly to
> brag about stupid shit. I'd much rather read posts by truly great
> magic players like Nate Clark and Chris Pikula who are trying to help
> out this game by ridding it of the losers and cheats.

I agree with this statement. It seems logical to me that the truly great
players would be the ones who would not waste their time posting to this
newsgroup about how good they are and how much everyone else sucks. I
have met lots of anal magic players (unfortunately...more magic players
seem to be ass holes than almost any other group of people I have ever
encountered) but on occasion, I will meet a truly great player, one who is
humble about his/her skills, one who plays the game for what it is...an
intellectual sport like chess or bridge, one who is willing to teach
others who are new to the game without an air of superiority. It is these
great players that I look forward to meeting more of...not some ass hole
who won a few tournaments, has a high DCI rating, and thinks he is the end
of Mankind's quest for perfection.

----------------------------------------------------
Jamin (Skeezix)
jp...@cec.wustl.edu
http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~jpg2/magic.html

(001) Logic Error CLINTON.SYS: Truth table missing


joh...@cynosure.com.sg

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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se...@aol.com (Seve) wrote:

>How old is David Bachman?

Hmm, going back up the post, it's good odds that he's offering. If
he's gonna pay for my air fare, I will be more than glad to take the
offer.


Michael Lewis

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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Maniac187 wrote:
>
> SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS BUT I THINK I MUST.
> SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING DORK. WHO ARE YOU TO COME INTO OUR
> DISCUSSION WITH YOUR BULLSHIT? DO YOU PLAY MAGIC? IF YOU DO THEN LETS
> PLAY FOR SOME ANTE AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE JUDGES YOU WANT TO WATCH OR
> EVEN PLAY MY CARDS FOR ME AND HAVE ME TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. I WILL DOUBLE
> WHAT YOU PUT UP AND GIVE YOU A ONE GAME HEAD START IN A BEST OF 5. I'LL
> EVEN LET YOU CHEAT ONCE A GAME YOU FUCKING LOSER, I WILL STILL BUST YOUR
> LITTLE ASS.

Hell, I'll take that deal.

- Mike

Knight

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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Can't y'all just fucking cool it? this is getting old. Personally, I don't
give a flying fuck if he cheats or not, the chances of me playing him are about zero.
If someone says something to piss you off, let it slide, for god's sake. What are you
gonna do, beat their ass over the net? It's alot easier to talk smack from behind a
keyboard and you all know it. LET them think they're better. It gives you an advantage
in the first game, because they underestimate you.....

You "pros", if you don't like our petty discussions, than don't read the
messages. If one of us "scrubs" mails you, don't even acknowledge them, just go on with
your arguments. Remember, we're not going anywhere, this is a public access newsgroup.
We want you to stay, I feel there are a lot of players who could be helped by your
advice, because many of you have a greater understanding of the game than us.

Jesus Christ, just play the damned game, people.....

no-spam

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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> DAVID BACHMANN
> MEMBER OF TEAM E.C.A
> NON-CHEATER
> BEST DRAFTER IN THE WORLD

OKAY HERE IS MY CHEAT : I FORGET WHEN I TAKE DAMAGE

pawel

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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mani...@aol.com (Maniac187) wrote:

>SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS BUT I THINK I MUST.

^^^^^
Aren't you afraid your brain might hurt if you start doing that?

>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING DORK. WHO ARE YOU TO COME INTO OUR
>DISCUSSION WITH YOUR BULLSHIT? DO YOU PLAY MAGIC? IF YOU DO THEN LETS

Give it a break, apeman. Sure it's probably not your fault that you
have such a lousy personality. You inherited your character from your
parents, and since our society allowed them to reproduce, I guess
we'll have to live with the result.

Daniel O'Mahoney-Schwartz

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy: 22-Apr-97
Re: David Bachman and cheating by "Jamin P. Gray"@cec.wust
> It is these
> great players that I look forward to meeting more of...not some ass hole
> who won a few tournaments, has a high DCI rating, and thinks he is the end
> of Mankind's quest for perfection.

I think most people are more entertained by a guy throwing chairs around
then by a bunch of guys playing magic. Whether they admit it or not is
another story...

Daniel O'Mahoney-Schwartz

HashimB

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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Yo ho ho .... I hear DannyO,


The Mighty DannyO said:

>I think most people are more entertained by a guy throwing chairs around
>then by a bunch of guys playing magic. Whether they admit it or not is
>another story...

DannyO are you trying to be as funny as me? I noticed that when you mana
screwed me two games in a row at that PTQ and i threw the table with Halo
sitting on it, you ran out of the room. Does that mean that you are
entertained or not? let's call a cat a cat. My temper is frightening not
entertaining andI like it that way. so as long as there are tables around
you will think twice about manascrewing me, right tough guy?????


Peace,

Hashim B
Furniture throwing champion of the World
1-3 against the luckier of the OMS boys.

Daniel O'Mahoney-Schwartz

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy: 25-Apr-97
Re: David Bachman and cheating by Has...@aol.com
> >I think most people are more entertained by a guy throwing chairs around
> >then by a bunch of guys playing magic. Whether they admit it or not is
> >another story...
>
> DannyO are you trying to be as funny as me? I noticed that when you mana
> screwed me two games in a row at that PTQ and i threw the table with Halo
> sitting on it, you ran out of the room. Does that mean that you are
> entertained or not? let's call a cat a cat. My temper is frightening not
> entertaining andI like it that way. so as long as there are tables around
> you will think twice about manascrewing me, right tough guy?????
>

I was actually leaving the room to inform MomOMS that her two boys had
racked up quite the victory in NJ. I am sorry if I was not intimidated
enough by your feeble threats, even after we completed our match.

>
> Peace,
>
> Hashim B
> Furniture throwing champion of the World
> 1-3 against the luckier of the OMS boys.

I would just like to note that that one victory over me was with a deck
that revolved around getting an infinite turn with final fortune and
soldevi digger. The amazing Ben Bleiweiss had everyone convinced he had
contacted the entire wotc R&D team as always to confirm that the combo
was valid.

Daniel O'Mahoney-Schwartz

3-0 in valid matches against the Bello boy

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