creature enchantments/counters and morphing
Yung K. Su
MTG, so some of the new abilities are confusing me. But here is my
questions:
If I cast an enchantment or place a counter on a creature with morph
abilities, do the enchantments/counters get removed when the creature
morphs? What happens when the creature morphs back to the form that
had the enchantments/counters on it?
Thanks in Advance,
YKS
Are K. Saxrud
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It is still the same creature, whether it is face down or face up. Any
enchantments and counters will stay on it in both states.
Zoe Stephenson
> Please bear with me... it has been a few years since I have played
> MTG, so some of the new abilities are confusing me. But here is my
> questions:
> If I cast an enchantment or place a counter on a creature with morph
> abilities, do the enchantments/counters get removed when the creature
> morphs?
Minor nitpick first: Morph is only an ability when the card with morph
is being played from your hand.
I assume you mean 'play enchantments on a face-down creature, then turn
the creature face-up', in which case the enchantments and counters all
stay right where they are. The creature didn't change into a different
creature; it's the same creature, with different characteristics.
> What happens when the creature morphs back to the form that
> had the enchantments/counters on it?
If you turn the creature face down, it just changes the underlying
characteristics. The enchantments still function on top of that.
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Lee Sharpe
In both cases, it's the same creature; it's just been changed. Enchantments
and counters will remain on it. Spells and abilities on the stack that were
targeting it still will be. And so on...
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Lee Sharpe
DCI Certified Level 2 Judge
President, UIUC Magic: The Gathering Club
http://www.uiuc.edu/ro/mtg
David DeLaney
No, they stay on the creature - the creature just now looks "normal" instead
of looking like a 2/2 blank creature with no name or type. The enchantments
or counters on it affect it normally either way.
And if it gets turned face-down again, somehow, this also doesn't remove
any enchantments, counters, or any effects affecting it either - it just
makes the "base creature" look like it's 2/2, blank, nameless, and typeless.
Any modifications "go on top of" that. Much like Illusionary Mask except
the power/toughness are different.
Dave
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Yung K. Su
wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Apr 2003 04:01:20 GMT, Yung K. Su <yk...@tfn.net> wrote:
>>Please bear with me... it has been a few years since I have played
>>MTG, so some of the new abilities are confusing me. But here is my questions:
>>
>>If I cast an enchantment or place a counter on a creature with morph
>>abilities, do the enchantments/counters get removed when the creature
>>morphs? What happens when the creature morphs back to the form that
>>had the enchantments/counters on it?
>
>No, they stay on the creature - the creature just now looks "normal" instead
>of looking like a 2/2 blank creature with no name or type. The enchantments
>or counters on it affect it normally either way.
>
>And if it gets turned face-down again, somehow, this also doesn't remove
>any enchantments, counters, or any effects affecting it either - it just
>makes the "base creature" look like it's 2/2, blank, nameless, and typeless.
>Any modifications "go on top of" that. Much like Illusionary Mask except
>the power/toughness are different.
Can you pay the morphing cost to 'morph' the creature back to the face
down state? Or is that not part of the morph ability?
Chris Wiegert
> down state? Or is that not part of the morph ability?
Nope. Morph cards can be played face-down and then turned face-up later,
but you can't turn it face-down again (with a few exceptions, like Backslide
or Wall of Deceit).
David DeLaney
>On 5 Apr 2003 21:22:17 -0500, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>>And if it gets turned face-down again, somehow, this also doesn't remove
>>any enchantments, counters, or any effects affecting it either - it just
>>makes the "base creature" look like it's 2/2, blank, nameless, and typeless.
>>Any modifications "go on top of" that. Much like Illusionary Mask except
>>the power/toughness are different.
>
>Can you pay the morphing cost to 'morph' the creature back to the face
>down state? Or is that not part of the morph ability?
That is not part of the Morph ability, no; Morph is only usable right
as you're playing (casting, announcing) the creature spell. If it's face-down
and has Morph 'under' being face-down, you can reveal it and pay the
revealed Morph cost to turn it face-up; it doesn't work the other way round.
A few Morph creatures do have ways to turn themselves face-down, but most
don't; that's why I said 'somehow' up there.