Some simple ?s

[van]

1. Are creature abilities spells that can be a) countered or b) used by
artifacts such as Iron star or Wooden Spear - such as Tim(without a
casting cost) or Crimson Manticore (R and tap)?

2. What about summoning a creature?

3. Do articacts or artifact creatures have "summoning sickness" when
when they come into play?

4. Can use use creature\artifact abilities the turn they come into
play?

Thanks alot in advace,
Roger

[Patrick M. Berry]

In article <324BFF...@misslink.net>, van <v...@misslink.net> writes:
> 1. Are creature abilities spells that can be a) countered or b) used by
> artifacts such as Iron star or Wooden Spear - such as Tim(without a
> casting cost) or Crimson Manticore (R and tap)?

No. Creature abilities are not spells.

> 2. What about summoning a creature?

Summoning a creature is a spell.

> 3. Do articacts or artifact creatures have "summoning sickness" when
> when they come into play?

Artifact creatures suffer from summoning sickness just like any other creature.
Non-creature artifacts do not.

> 4. Can use use creature\artifact abilities the turn they come into
> play?

A creature suffering from summoning sickness cannot use abilities that require
tapping. Abilities that do not require tapping can be used on the turn in
which the creature enters play.

[Kyle Nishioka]

van (v...@misslink.net) wrote:
: 1. Are creature abilities spells that can be a) countered or b) used by

: artifacts such as Iron star or Wooden Spear - such as Tim(without a
: casting cost) or Crimson Manticore (R and tap)?

No. Abilities generated by permanents are not spells. There is an
interrupt window for them which may allow them to be countered (however
you need a card that specifically says to counter the fast effect, ex:
Rust, Brown Ouphe). Use of a fast effect ability does not trigger
anything that looks for a spell.

: 2. What about summoning a creature?

Yes. Summonings are spells.

: 3. Do articacts or artifact creatures have "summoning sickness" when

: when they come into play?

Everything can have summoning sickness, however only creatures are
affected by it. A non-creature artifact is brought into play and then
animated later in the turn will have summoning sickness for example.

: 4. Can use use creature\artifact abilities the turn they come into
: play?

Yes, providing that summoning sickness does not prevent the use and that
there is nothing else prohibiting it.

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[David DeLaney]

van <v...@misslink.net> writes:
>1. Are creature abilities spells that can be a) countered or b) used by
>artifacts such as Iron star or Wooden Spear - such as Tim(without a
>casting cost) or Crimson Manticore (R and tap)?

No, they are not spells. They are fast effect abilities of permanents.
[Rulebook] Something that "counters target spell" can't do anything to Tim.

>2. What about summoning a creature?

Casting a Summon spell is a spell. Casting an Artifact Creature spell is a
spell.

>3. Do articacts or artifact creatures have "summoning sickness" when
> when they come into play?

Only creatures suffer this. Artifact creatures do, since they are creatures.
Artifacts that aren't creatures do not, since they aren't creatures.

>4. Can use use creature\artifact abilities the turn they come into
> play?

Creatures are summon-sick the turn they enter play, by
any means [except "phasing in"]. They stay summon-sick until they start
your turn on your side; after that you can attack with them or use their
"tap to do this" abilities.

Artifacts that aren't creatures can't be summon-sick, so can be used the
turn they enter play.

Dave
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[Chris Dollin]

In article <324BFF...@misslink.net> van <v...@misslink.net> writes:

1. Are creature abilities spells

No.

that can be a) countered or b) used by artifacts such as Iron star
or Wooden Spear - such as Tim(without a casting cost)

That's an *activation* cost for Tim's prod -- his casting cost is the cost
to cast Tim himself. (And Tim *does* have an activation cost, viz, tap.)

or Crimson Manticore (R and tap)?

No, and no, since they're not spells.

2. What about summoning a creature?

What about it?

Oh, you mean is it a counterable/user spell? Yes, of course.

3. Do articacts or artifact creatures have "summoning sickness" when
when they come into play?

Non-creature artifacts don't have summoning sickness; artifact creatures do.

4. Can use use creature\artifact abilities the turn they come into
play?

(a) any ability that doesn't require tapping as a cost can be used by a
creature (or artifact) regardless of summoning sickness.

(b) creature abilities that require tapping cannot be used if the creature
is summoning sick.

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