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Igor Magajne

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.

If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
use Hibernation.
Where the 3 tokens goes?


Morgan Lewis

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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Igor Magajne wrote:
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> Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
> Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.
>

You can only sacrifice one. When a *non-permanent* spell has a "cost:
effect" written in the text box, it's part of a one-time play cost. On
cards from Urza's Saga and onward, it's written as "At the time you play
[~this card~], [~do this~]." So CtW, under this equivalent wording
would say "At the time you play Culling the Weak, sacrifice a creature.
If you do, add BBBB to your mana pool."

> If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
> use Hibernation. Where the 3 tokens goes?

They go to your opponent's hand, initially. However, since tokens
cannot exist anywhere but in play, they are then removed from the game.

Hope that helps,
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Nate Finch

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Igor Magajne wrote:

>Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
>Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.

Only one. Abilties with a colon on non-permanents can only be used once
unless they *specifically* say they can be used more than once.

>If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
>use Hibernation.
>Where the 3 tokens goes?

They disappear. Whenever a token leaves play it is removed from the game.
If they die, they go to the graveyard for a *very* short time before
poofing into nothingness.

-Nate


Ingo Kemper

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:12:35 +0200, Igor Magajne
<igor_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
>Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.

Culling the Weak doesn't have any abilities that you could use more
than once. It's a spell with a defined playing cost. When you play
Culling the Weak you have to sacrifice one and only one creature. (You
wouldn't try to tap two creatures with a single Twiddle spell by
paying two blue mana for it, would you?)

>If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
>use Hibernation.
>Where the 3 tokens goes?

They are sent to their owner's hands and trigger all appropriate
abilities ("Whenever a creature leaves play, ..."), but they
"dissolve" as soon as they leave play. Tokens cannot exist outside of
play, so they just disappear - they won't remain in a player's hand.

Ingo Kemper
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Joan Matuzek

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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You can only sac 1 creature to culling,

and when tokens are taken out of play, they are removed from the game,
so the green tokens are taken out of the game.

does that help?

Igor Magajne wrote:
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> Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
> Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.
>

Jim

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:12:35 +0200, Igor Magajne
<igor_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
>Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.
>
>If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
>use Hibernation.
>Where the 3 tokens goes?
>
>

1. Only 1 creature. Sorry.
2. Remove from game.

TJ Phazerhacki

M. Kastberg

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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Igor Magajne wrote:

>Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.<

Only one. Spells (as oposed to permanents) that has a pay something : gain
another thing, only lets you make the payment once.

Permanents that has that, can, unless otherwise specified, be use, as long
as you can make the payment. So only one creature.

>If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
use Hibernation.
Where the 3 tokens goes?<

Since they can't go to your hand and stay there, they breifly go to you
hand, and is then removed from the game.

K.25.6 - Token creatures are removed from the game entirely if they ever
leave play (to the hand, graveyard, phase out, or wherever).

K.25.Ruling.1 - Before leaving the game (as per Rule K.25.6), token
creatures do briefly go where they are sent, which can trigger effects.


-Mic

David DeLaney

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Apr 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/11/99
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Igor Magajne <igor_m...@yahoo.com> writes:
>Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
>Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.

Only one. Since this is not an ability of a permanent, the part before the
colon is an extra cost of playing the spell; to pay that cost a second time,
you have to _cast the spell_ a second time, getting it back in your hand.

You can't ever pay only part of a cost, or part of a cost once and another
part twice. When you cast Culling the Weak, you pay
B-and-sacrifice-one-creature, and that's all.

>If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
>use Hibernation.
>Where the 3 tokens goes?

They have left play [they were sent to owner's hand], so they evaporate
immediately: they disappear and cannot be returned to play, ever. Tokens
can only exist in play - if they leave play for any reason, they vanish
as a continuous effect.

Dave
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Maarten van Beek

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Igor Magajne wrote:

> Culling the Weak "Sacrifice a creature: Add BBBB to your mana pool."
> Can I sacrifice two creatures or only one for this mana source.

The "Sacrifice a creature" is an additional cost to play the spell. You must sac
one creature in addition to the casting cost in order to play the spell.

> If a playre have 3 green tokens (and other green cards) in play and I
> use Hibernation. Where the 3 tokens goes?

Tokens can only exist in play.If a token ever leaves play, it dissolves.

Maarten van Beek
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