Question: Do artifact creatures suffer summoning sickness?
C Roberts
From 'Tapping the Knowledge Vault' as in Scrye issue 4/3 August 97:
"Q. My friend casts AEther Storm, then continues to cast artifact
creature spells because he says they are not summoned. Is this right?
A. Yes, an artifact creature is not a summon spell, it is an artifact
creature spell."
Kay thats nice, now for the stupid question: do artifact creatures
suffer from summoning sickness ie.can they attack the turn they come
into play?
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Ingo Kemper
>Kay thats nice, now for the stupid question: do artifact creatures
>suffer from summoning sickness ie.can they attack the turn they come
>into play?
Yes. Summoning sickness is somewhat misnamed. It affects all creatures
that are under your control but were not continuously under your
control since the beginning of your most recent turn (unless another
effect says otherwise).
So artifact creatures are summoning sick the turn they come into play,
and if you gain control of a creature with, say, a Seasinger, the
creature you controlled will be summoning sick although it never left
play but merely changed controllers.
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What summoning sickness means basically is:
Creatures cannot attack (or be tapped for their own special ability) unless
that card or token has been in play on your side since the beginning of
your turn.
Any permanent may not attack unless it was in play under your control at
the beginning of your turn. This is why a mishras factory may not attack
the turn you play the land.
I always wondered how people could actually expect someone who is trying to
help or answer a question to waste time removing something from the persons
email address (remove .nospam when replying, etc...)
C Roberts <psycho.v...@telusplanet.net> wrote in article
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David DeLaney
psycho.v...@telusplanet.net writes:
>From 'Tapping the Knowledge Vault' as in Scrye issue 4/3 August 97:
>"Q. My friend casts AEther Storm, then continues to cast artifact
>creature spells because he says they are not summoned. Is this right?
>A. Yes, an artifact creature is not a summon spell, it is an artifact
>creature spell."
>
>suffer from summoning sickness ie.can they attack the turn they come
>into play?
Creatures suffer from summoning sickness. [Everything _gets_ summoning
sickness, but only creatures are _affected by_ it.]
An artifact creature spell being cast isn't a Summon spell, it's an
Artifact Creature spell, so AEther Flash and AEther Storm ignore it.
An artifact creature in play is a creature and an artifact, so it's
summon-sick until it starts your turn in play on your side. [Because
it's a creature.]
Dave
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Michael Mason
David DeLaney wrote:
>
> An artifact creature spell being cast isn't a Summon spell, it's an
> Artifact Creature spell, so AEther Flash and AEther Storm ignore it.
>
Just to throw a spanner in the works Dave but doesn't Aether Flash
trigger on Creatures coming into play, not summon spells being cast?
MM
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David DeLaney
d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu (David DeLaney) writes:
>An artifact creature spell being cast isn't a Summon spell, it's an
>Artifact Creature spell, so AEther Flash and AEther Storm ignore it.
Blah, I _meant_ to write "Remove Soul and AEther Storm" there. Been
answering too many questions about AEther Flash vs. Karn lately...
AEther Flash affects an artifact creature spell normally, because that's
a creature when it comes into play. [It doesn't affect anything that only
becomes a creature once it's _in_ play.]
Phaedrus
In article <5s44ef$gld$1...@gaia.ns.utk.edu>,
David DeLaney <d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu> wrote:
>An artifact creature spell being cast isn't a Summon spell, it's an
>Artifact Creature spell, so AEther Flash and AEther Storm ignore it.
? AEther Flash triggers on creatures entering play; an Artifact Creature
spell being cast isn't a Summon spell, but it certainly does put a creature
into play. (AEther Storm does mention "summon spells" specifically.)
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The Redneck
C Roberts <psycho.v...@telusplanet.net> wrote in article
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> "Q. My friend casts AEther Storm, then continues to cast artifact
> creature spells because he says they are not summoned. Is this right?
> A. Yes, an artifact creature is not a summon spell, it is an artifact
> creature spell."
Um. Doesn't AEther Storm (How do you get an AE to show up as
one character, anyway? Is there a Magic The Gathering (TM R C)
Keyboard?) affect *creatures*, rather than summon spells?
I'd'a swore it worked fine against any creature coming into play,
including artifact critters, tokens, summons, animated critters,
whatever. . .
> Kay thats nice, now for the stupid question: do artifact creatures
> suffer from summoning sickness ie.can they attack the turn they come
> into play?
From what I understand, all permanants suffer summoning sickness.
The trick is that it has no effect except on creatures. So your Mishra's
Factory can't attack immediately -- even though it was a land, it still
has summoning sickness, and when it becomes a creature that takes
effect. Same with the Xanthic Statue. And, of course, with regular
Artifact Creatures. . .
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On 7 Aug 1997 16:42:07 GMT, "The Redneck" <the_r...@geocities.com>
wrote:
>Um. Doesn't AEther Storm (How do you get an AE to show up as
>one character, anyway? Is there a Magic The Gathering (TM R C)
>Keyboard?)
No, the AE together is a Danish letter. You get it by pushing the ć
button on your danish keyboard, or hold ALT and type 0198 or 0230.
By the way, does anybody out there know why Wotc put it on the cards?
Simon Nejmann
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Eric Amick
Because they were probably using the Latin diphthong ae, which was written
crammed together into one letter. Evidently the word "ether" was once
commonly spelled that way.
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Russ Jones
Anne Mette og Jens Nejmann wrote:
>
> On 7 Aug 1997 16:42:07 GMT, "The Redneck" <the_r...@geocities.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Um. Doesn't AEther Storm (How do you get an AE to show up as
> >one character, anyway? Is there a Magic The Gathering (TM R C)
> >Keyboard?)
>
> No, the AE together is a Danish letter. You get it by pushing the ć
> button on your danish keyboard, or hold ALT and type 0198 or 0230.
>
> By the way, does anybody out there know why Wotc put it on the cards?
>
It's an English letter, called a dipthong. It's a gliding monosyllabic
speech sound (like the vowel combination that forms the last part of the
word "toy") that starts at or near the articulatory position for one
vowel and moves to or toward the position of another. The most common
ones are the "ae" combination as in AEther or encyclopAEdia and the "oe"
combination.
As to why WoTC used it? AEther is an antique spelling of ether, which in
turn is an antiquated word usage meaning the rarified element believed
to fill the upper regions of space. They were just showing off. Kind of
like I am now.
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Eric Amick wrote:
>
> Anne Mette og Jens Nejmann (nej...@post8.tele.dk) wrote:
> > On 7 Aug 1997 16:42:07 GMT, "The Redneck" <the_r...@geocities.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Um. Doesn't AEther Storm (How do you get an AE to show up as
> > >one character, anyway? Is there a Magic The Gathering (TM R C)
> > >Keyboard?)
> >
> > button on your danish keyboard, or hold ALT and type 0198 or 0230.
> >
> > By the way, does anybody out there know why Wotc put it on the cards?
>
> crammed together into one letter. Evidently the word "ether" was once
> commonly spelled that way.
>
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> Columbia, MD
> eam...@clark.net
Still is, in fantasy/sci-fi books/etc...and M:TG is definitely fantasy,
so it makes a certain sense to use the "archaic" spelling. Besides, the
spelling Æther Flash just _looks_ nicer than Ether Flash.
Morgan
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>
> No, the AE together is a Danish letter. You get it by pushing the ć
> button on your danish keyboard, or hold ALT and type 0198 or 0230.
>
> By the way, does anybody out there know why Wotc put it on the cards?
>
for pronounciation.
Ć - ay rather than: AE - ee
(or the other way around - after all I am no English Professor)
SJ