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George Pechtol

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Jan 28, 1995, 6:09:57 PM1/28/95
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Help PLEASE!

I have received a number of conflicting reports on the subject of spells
(i.e. lightning bolt, prodigal sorcerer, thorn thallid, etc.) that deal
damage to a target.

The rules seem to indicate that unless otherwise stated, valid targets
are creatures, and that if no creatures are present, then targetting
spells may not be cast. However, several people have told me that
players are fair game for spells that target.

I'm pretty sure that the rules are on my side (no targetting of players -
only cards that explicitly target players affect players), but some of
you think otherwise. What's the word?

- GP.

Michael Ronn Marcelais

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Jan 29, 1995, 8:51:41 AM1/29/95
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George Pechtol (gpec...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: Help PLEASE!

: I have received a number of conflicting reports on the subject of spells
: (i.e. lightning bolt, prodigal sorcerer, thorn thallid, etc.) that deal
: damage to a target.

If it just says 'target' (like your three examples do), then it can be
any creature or player.

If it says 'target player' (eg, Stream of life), then it can only target
players.

If it says 'target creature' (eg, terror), then it can only target creatures.

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Jan 30, 1995, 12:18:06 PM1/30/95
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Unfortuately, when the target is not specified, (i.e. target creature or target
player) then the target can be either.. Pisser!

At least that is my understanding.

Alien

George Pechtol

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Feb 2, 1995, 11:48:42 PM2/2/95
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Michael Ronn Marcelais (mrma...@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: George Pechtol (gpec...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: : I have received a number of conflicting reports on the subject of spells
: : (i.e. lightning bolt, prodigal sorcerer, thorn thallid, etc.) that deal
: : damage to a target.
: If it just says 'target' (like your three examples do), then it can be
: any creature or player.
: If it says 'target player' (eg, Stream of life), then it can only target
: players.
: If it says 'target creature' (eg, terror), then it can only target creatures.

A lot of people think that I am moronic for always asking the same
question. However, the source of my problem is page 20 of the Rule book,
which reads:
"Targets: Some spells or effects require one or more targets. This sort
of spell allows the caster to choose which of a particular class of
_cards_ will be affected...A spell or effect that requires a target may
not be used if there are no targets of the appropriate type
available..."

Anyway, I understand that when a card says "Lightning Bolt does 3 damage
to one target," it is ambiguous with respect to whether it is a card or a
player. And so, I refer to the rule book, and it says that a target
requires a particular class of card. That means not a player to me.

Furthermore, my Guardian Angel "Prevents X damage from being dealt to any
one target." I presume that this means target to be a card or a
creature, and thus, I cannot use it to reduce damage done to me.
Contrary to this is the Healing Salve which clearly states,"Gain 3 life,
or prevent up to 3 damage from being dealt to a single target." This
wording applies to players (as bearers of life points) and targets
(classes of cards) distinctly and separately.

I know that everyone has their way of playing, but this is our way, and
until someone can give me a REALLY good reason why I am wrong, I believe
that everyone who has told me that lightning bolts can target players is
just wrong. Help?

- GP.

David DeLaney

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Feb 3, 1995, 3:25:07 AM2/3/95
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gpec...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (George Pechtol) writes:
>I know that everyone has their way of playing, but this is our way, and
>until someone can give me a REALLY good reason why I am wrong, I believe
>that everyone who has told me that lightning bolts can target players is
>just wrong.

REALLY good reason:

Because the Design Team and the Net Representative for Wizards of the
Coast say it's so, and because the accumulated Rulings, which *override*
the rulebook when they conflict, say it's so.

Dave
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George Pechtol

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Feb 4, 1995, 3:59:07 AM2/4/95
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David DeLaney (d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu) wrote:

: gpec...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (George Pechtol) writes:
: >I know that everyone has their way of playing, but this is our way, and
: >until someone can give me a REALLY good reason why I am wrong, I believe
: >that everyone who has told me that lightning bolts can target players is
: >just wrong.

: REALLY good reason:

: Because the Design Team and the Net Representative for Wizards of the
: Coast say it's so, and because the accumulated Rulings, which *override*
: the rulebook when they conflict, say it's so.

: Dave

Ahhhhhhhh... Thank you, Dave. That's what I wanted to hear. Much obliged.

- GP!

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