Howling mine effect?
Grey Hawk
Is the effect of howling mine cumulative?
I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
Thanks, and, please, give me the rule's reference for this case.
Steve Lord
> Hi!
>
> Is the effect of howling mine cumulative?
Howling Mine
2
Artifact
At the beginning of each player's draw step, if Howling Mine is
untapped, that player draws a card.
Yes. Each one triggers completely independently (as long as the
corresponding Howling Mine is untapped.)
> I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
> much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
3 -- once when the normal "Draw a card" pseudospell resolves, one when the
first HM pseudospell resolves, and one when the second HM psuedospell
resolves.
> Thanks, and, please, give me the rule's reference for this case.
410.2 and 410.3, I guess, are what you're looking for.
Steve L
Nazgul
>Is the effect of howling mine cumulative?
Yes
>I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
>much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
Three (or more)
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David DeLaney
>Is the effect of howling mine cumulative?
Yes. Each one's triggered ability will trigger separately.
>I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
>much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
You will draw three (or more). One from each Mine's triggered ability,
plus one for the rulebook-granted "draw a card" triggered ability. Each of
these triggered abilities resolves separately, so you draw three cards
at separate times during your draw step.
Dave
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Grey Hawk
wrote:
>>I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
>>much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
>
>You will draw three (or more). One from each Mine's triggered ability,
>plus one for the rulebook-granted "draw a card" triggered ability. Each of
>these triggered abilities resolves separately, so you draw three cards
>at separate times during your draw step.
"At separate time". It is very important moment I missed.
Thanks, David.
Last two question:
1. Is the rulebook's "draw card" ability the first to play?
2. Should I use timestamps for my Howling Mines to determine the order
of ability triggering?
David Chapman
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> >>much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
> >
> >You will draw three (or more). One from each Mine's triggered
ability,
> >plus one for the rulebook-granted "draw a card" triggered ability.
Each of
> >these triggered abilities resolves separately, so you draw three
cards
> >at separate times during your draw step.
>
> Thanks, David.
>
> Last two question:
> 1. Is the rulebook's "draw card" ability the first to play?
> 2. Should I use timestamps for my Howling Mines to determine the order
> of ability triggering?
>
No, and no. Only continuous effects are timestamped; triggered effects
stack normally, in the order that you choose.
So say you have a Howling Mine and a Sylvan Library in play. You stack
your normal draw and the Howler draw in any order you wish, and then may
put an activation of the library on the stack at any point when you have
priority (i.e. before you draw either card, after you draw the first
card, after you draw the second card, or after either placing or
resolving any other effect from the stack in your draw step).
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David DeLaney
>d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu (David DeLaney) wrote:
>>>I.e. if I have two(or more) *un*tapped "Howling Mine" in the play how
>>>much card I must draw on "Draw Step"?
>>
>>You will draw three (or more). One from each Mine's triggered ability,
>>plus one for the rulebook-granted "draw a card" triggered ability. Each of
>>these triggered abilities resolves separately, so you draw three cards
>>at separate times during your draw step.
>
Correct; you don't 'draw three at once' or anything. You can do stuff
in between drawing the cards...
>1. Is the rulebook's "draw card" ability the first to play?
It goes on the stack along with the other triggered abilities; you control
it, so can order it as you choose with regards to the other triggered abilities
you control. Opponent's stuff that triggers on your draw step goes on -top-
of your stuff, so all of opponent's stuff has to resolve before you can draw
your normal card -or- any of your Howling Mine cards, if opponent has anything
that triggers 'at the beginning of' your draw step.
>2. Should I use timestamps for my Howling Mines to determine the order
>of ability triggering?
Nope. When several triggered abilities are going on the stack at the same
time? All of active player's go on first, active player chooses their order...
then all of opponent's go on on top of them, opponent chooses -their- order.
So all of opponent's -resolve- before any of active player's can. (This is
sometimes referred to as APNAP order - Active Player/NonActive Player.)
Ole Kofoed Hansen
<sp...@usa.net> wrote:
> Last two question:
> 1. Is the rulebook's "draw card" ability the first to play?
> of ability triggering?
No to both.
First, you put all triggered abilities controlled by you on the stack in
the order you choose. (The normal draw-a-card is also a triggered ability
controlled by you.)
Then your opponent puts his triggered abilitites on the stack in the
order he chooses.
It does not matter in which order the Howling Mines came into play, but
who their controller is does matter.
Regards
Ole