Pendelhaven+Kird Ape

[Anders Michael Jrgensen]

s94c...@student.adb.gu.se wrote:
: In article <3hnfb5$d...@nic.lth.se>, d9...@efd.lth.se (Paer Hylander) wrote:

: > HI!
: >
: > I'm wondering if i can use my pendelhaven on a kird ape while I have a forest
: > in play. i.e. can I get my apes to become 3/5. I hope so since it say's 1/1
: > and Kird apes are 1/1 with a feature +1/+2 if there are any forests in play.
: >
: > Thanks for your time.
: > P.Hylander

: Nope, but you could use Pendelhaven on your Kird Ape with only Mountains
: in play, then play a forest snd make it a 3/5 creature for one turn only.

: Regards/ MJO-95

Why? since Kird ape gains +1/+2 it is still a 1/1 creature is it not?
I am not trying to sound smart or anything it is just that I can see
it either way.

Regards
AMJ

[Kyle Nishioka]

Paer Hylander (d9...@efd.lth.se) wrote:
: HI!

: I'm wondering if i can use my pendelhaven on a kird ape while I have a forest
: in play. i.e. can I get my apes to become 3/5. I hope so since it say's 1/1
: and Kird apes are 1/1 with a feature +1/+2 if there are any forests in play.

The wording of the Pendlehaven is misleading. It is supposed to mean the
current power and toughness but they wrote it such that people think that
it means the printed text on a creature.

So the answer is no, you can only use it on a creature whose current P/T
is 1.

--
Kyle
nk...@uhunix3.uhcc.hawaii.edu

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

[D]

In article <3hq1ua$b...@unidhp.uni-c.dk>, gc92...@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk (Anders
Michael Jørgensen) wrote:

The rulings we play by (which I think is official, shame otherwise)
considers such bomuses apply to the lower right corner numbers of a
creature, effectively changing the Kird Ape into a 2/3 creature. But the
bonus is always present which means that if you use a Sorceress Quenn on a
Kird Ape it actually becomes a 1/4 creature.

MJO/95

[TLAZ...@maine.maine.edu]

A kird ape with a forest and a mountain in play is not a 1/1 creature..

Period.

The only way to use the Pendelhaven on it is to use the Pendalhaven with
only a mountain in play.. If you want to increase your now 2/3 Kird ape..
You may then play the forest for a one turn deal of 3/5.. The kird ape
will be a 2/3 next turn..

There are only a few cards which look at the numbers in the lower right
hand corner when looking at power and toughness.. Like the sorceress queen.
It ONLY cares about those numbers on the card..

All other cards that don';t specifically look at those LOWER RIGHT HAND
CORNER NUMBERS.. are based on CURRENT stats..

[boyes@forty2]

In article <3hnfb5$d...@nic.lth.se>, d9...@efd.lth.se (Paer Hylander) writes:
> HI!
>
> I'm wondering if i can use my pendelhaven on a kird ape while I have a forest
> in play. i.e. can I get my apes to become 3/5. I hope so since it say's 1/1
> and Kird apes are 1/1 with a feature +1/+2 if there are any forests in play.
>
> Thanks for your time.
> P.Hylander

One should always use the current values of power and toughness when comparing
values of power and toughness, not the printed values, so no. Similarly Pendelhaven
cannot affect an untapped Llanowar Elf in a Castle as it is a 1/3 creature.

+Mark+