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Stein Kirkeby

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Does all creatures "summon sickness", so that they can't be used until the
next turn? Or does this only count on creatures you summon? I have a few
creatures which is not summon (like "Creature - Rat"), does this count on
these cards too, or... ?

Abner Mintz

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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"All creatures get summoning sickness when they come under a
player's control, unless they have the 'Haste' ability (the ability
that says they don't get summoning sickness)."

rpitcher

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Abner is right.
The new wording on cards that you pointed out (Creature - Rat) is simply the
6th edition way of indicating what type of creature the card is. 6th
edition rules have done away with the term "summons". Now you "play" a
creature spell, which creates a creature when it resolves.


Abner Mintz wrote in message <01bef6ce$8b297b40$7c168fa8@amaterasu>...

Steve Lord

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Abner Mintz wrote:

> Stein Kirkeby <stki...@online.no> wrote:
> > Does all creatures "summon sickness", so that they can't be used until
> the
> > next turn? Or does this only count on creatures you summon? I have a few
> > creatures which is not summon (like "Creature - Rat"), does this count on
> > these cards too, or... ?
>
> "All creatures get summoning sickness when they come under a
> player's control, unless they have the 'Haste' ability (the ability
> that says they don't get summoning sickness)."

Almost. "summoning sickness" is a term that was _supposed_ to
have gone away, but most people here use it for "Cannot play abilities
which require tapping as part of the cost and cannot attack the turn it
comes under a player's control".

All _permanents_ have summoning sickness when they first come
under a new player's control. Only creatures without Haste are _affected_
by it. This does make a difference if you, say, animate a Mishra's
Factory the turn it came into play -- the summoning sickness goes from not
affecting the Factory to affecting the Worker.

Steve L


David DeLaney

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Sep 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/5/99
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Stein Kirkeby <stki...@online.no> wrote:
>Does all creatures "summon sickness", so that they can't be used until the
>next turn? Or does this only count on creatures you summon? I have a few
>creatures which is not summon (like "Creature - Rat"), does this count on
>these cards too, or... ?

Whenever a permanent of any kind _comes into play_ (unless it phases in),
or _changes controllers_, it gets "summoning sickness". It has nothing to
do with whether you put it into play by casting a Summon spell...

Only -creatures- are affected by summoning sickness; anything that's not
a creature doesn't care whether it's sick or not.

And summoning sickness wears off when the permanent starts its controller's
turn.

So: if you cast a Summon or Creature spell, the creature it makes will be
"sick" until your next turn starts. (So if you cast it on your turn, it's
"sick" the rest of that turn _and_ on opponent's turn; if you manage to
cast it somehow on opponent's turn, it's just "sick" the rest of that
turn, then stops being 'sick' when your turn starts.)

If you steal a creature with Control Magic, it gets "sick" again, so you
can't attack with it that same turn.

If you put a land or artifact into play, it's "sick" ... but unless it's
a creature _also_, it isn't affected at all. (So you can tap lands for mana
right after you put them out ... unless, say, Nature's Revolt is in play
and the land is a land _creature_....)

Dave
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Laurie Cheers

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Sep 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/5/99
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Stein Kirkeby wrote:
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> Does all creatures "summon sickness", so that they can't be used
> until the next turn? Or does this only count on creatures you summon?

Well, they've done away with this term... but yes, all creatures have
the limitation that they can't tap or attack unless they were under
their controller's control at the start of his/her last turn.

> I have a few
> creatures which is not summon (like "Creature - Rat"), does this
> count on these cards too, or... ?

That's just a new term for "Summon Rat". All the old cards that said
"Summon XXX" are now errata'd to say "Creature -- XXX".

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